I am convinced she screams louder at night then during the day ... but am probably wrong ... just feels that way!
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I am convinced she screams louder at night then during the day ... but am probably wrong ... just feels that way!
I am so glad to be home! We just got back from a visit to the grandparents house for the weekend and although it was lovely I think it may have been too soon to travel with the boys.
As soon as I walked in the door I instantly felt relaxed.
I have also just read through all the posts and I am so tired I have forgotten just about everything I have read.
DS2 has been waking up quite a lot at night so I have decided to just pop him in bed with us so we can get some sleep. We have one of those tetra beds that we just pop in the middle of the bed but sometimes I just pop Lennox next to me.
I find it very calming and he seems to sleep longer next to me. We Co slept with DS1 and loved it!
Hope all the bubbas are sleeping and eating well. I do remember some of the posts being about a yucky eye though. Lennox has had it since day 1 and it seems to just keep getting worse. I will try the breast milk again to see if that helps. Sometimes his eyes gunk up so much he cant open them, poor lil fella. I know the doctor said his right up had a blocked tear duct but the left didn't and it keeps getting gunky too so it must something else.
Oh and thank you so much beata for the information about foods to avoid when breastfeeding. I never knew that orange juice was bad!! I have been sculling it down every morning. Lets see if it helps!
Hi ladies! I've finally made it over from the belly buddies thread, Lacie Jane has arrived :D
I'm hoping to read over this thread in the next couple of days to see what I've missed, so just a quick post for now to say hello and I hope you're all doing well and enjoying your new arrivals.
xxx
Roxxie, welcome to the group!
Deedles, it's my little man that has the gunky eye. We got drops from the doctor. If Lennox's eye gunk is green at all, then you should go to the doctor. If it's watery or yellowish, then it's probably a blocked tear duct.
Hi to everyone else!
My little man has had his first MCNs on today. Thank goodness he has grown enough to fit some of them! He looks soooo cute cloth bummed! We've had abit of an unsettled day today - basically he was awake from 6am to about 12 noon. I managed to get him to sleep now but he's not in a deep sleep and I can hear him "singing" and whimpering! I hope that means he'll be exhausted tonight and maybe go longer than 3 hours, but don't want it to be anything wrong!
Okay so it's just not me. I just sent an email to DH telling him the same thing about Robert's day. He didn't really sleep much this morning and he was just getting more and more upset and hard to settle as the day went on. I finally managed to put him down in his cot about 40 minutes ago - and going back into him every 5 minutes because he would start crying (read screaming!). He's been sleeping now for the last 20 minutes so fingers crossed he'll get a decent sleep! I don't know if it's something I ate or he is just having one of those days. It is windy here today and I remember DS1's primary school principal used to hate windy days - the kids would go feral on windy days!!:
I too am hoping that it means he'll sleep longer tonight but I'm not holding out too much hope!!
Hi everyone and what a group it is now huh?
As you can see I have finally changed my name as I am no longer a mother of All-Boys :clap:
I cant believe Peppar is over three weeks old already. It has seriously flown by. What a pity the end of my pregnancy didnt fly by as fast.
We have had the usual trying days with her but in general she is a really good little girl. Basically four hourly with some longer stretches over night.
In saying that though she must be having another growth spurt because she has been a bit unsettled yesterday and today and wants to feed more often and only wants to sleep on me. Not cool when I have four others to look after. :wall:
My hug-a-bub has been used a fair bit and I have to say is fantastic. Love the total hands free-ness of it so the washing and the 476 other jobs still get done.
DH is working nights at the moment so that witching hour is really trying my patience and coping skills. The older boys have been a great help though albeit reluctantly ;) im just pleased I cooked heaps of meals for the freezer. That and that my kids dont mind weet bix for dinner :lol:
Well speaking of dinner our pasta is cooked so I best feed the troops before madam wakes up.
I do read through all your posts but like many of you its gone two minutes later so I apologise for no personals.
wishing you all at least a 4 hour uninterupted sleep tonight
Agh, sounds like we are all dealing with the same issues.
After several days of a really trying time between 3pm - 10pm, Willow has been just beautiful this afternoon. This was really great as it's my birthday on Tuesday so today was a big family lunch ... our first restaurant experience with Willow ... and she slept through the whole experience.
I've been feeding more regular during the unsettled (screaming) period - doing 2 hourly feeds and it appears to be helping. The feed settles her and doesn't allow her to work up all her engery on screaming.
Oddly though today she has decided she no longer wants to feed on both boobs per feed, she has been settled at empying one boob per feed and then dropping off to sleep. This has been heaven for my boobs/nipples ... I can handle the 2 hourly feeds if I am just using one boob per feed.
I also think Willow is more awake today - she is making loads more eye contact and turning her head to find my voice when someone else is holding her.
Does anyone know when babies might recognise Mum?
And when should we expect a "real" smile ... I am taking her wind pains as smiles at the moment :D
Cass - Re milk spilling out - I feed with bubs on a bit of an angle and have the bed propped up on an angle too....but the bit of extra burping time could be the answer too!!
Rach - It makes me teary often when I have a quiet second (without toddler wanting attention) and just look at Sophie...did alot with son too (but had more time when he was little).
Thrilled - Ds1 did that unsettled thing till 11pm too!! It was wind!! Sophie only feeds from one boob and it only takes her between ten and 15mins usually. (sometimes 5 mins). She is a very efficient feeder. I am trying to keep to one boob a feed because I have an oversupply of milk issue (had it with toddler) and learnt it keeps my supply down and me more comfortable and stops milk squirting so furiously while bubs trying to feed (and prevents some wind!!)...learnt these lessons the hard way last time!
I agree with the smaller feeds more often for settling too!!!
Shell - Soph is feeding every 2-3hours (day and night).
Bree - Took me about 6 weeks with my son for my nipples to be ok! Work through it Bree as it is so worth it..I fed son for 18mths! But I feel your pain!!!
Roxxie - Welcome
Claire - On Saturday Sophie drove me insane, crying with wind all morning!!!
Stacey - Oh how i would love a 4 hour stretch overnight!!! Jealous!
I took Sophie to the health nurse today and she is now 4.3kg (born 2.9kg). She is 4 weeks today!!! So has put on 400g a week - so the breastfeeding is working well and we could well say she is a guts!!! So she is certainly getting plenty with her feed of ten mins on 1 boob! The milk spilling out after has to be a sign she is full!!!
Can't believe she has put on half her birth weight again already!!!
Her wind has good and bad patches...I find bending her legs up towards her stomach before each feed a couple of times - makes her fart a few big loud farts!!!! Along with pedalling her legs!
Then, I often stop halfway during a feed and burp...when I get a burp...start feeding again...and then burp again....
This seems to be minimising the wind...she still gets some bad patches though...
Sophie has been smiling for a few days nows and she follows me with her eyes...if someone else is holding her and she hears my voice she turns her head! She can grab soft toys and holds her head up by herself for quite a long time now!!!
Toddler has been a really good boy in the last week - things seem to be settling down again which is great...
Hubby went back to work last week and, whilst trying at times, I felt the week went quite well!! Here's hoping that continues..
Now - Sophie - I would just love some sleep!!!!!! Please !!!!!
M2W how do u i just do all those personal replies i can hardly remember what read lol
I am glad i am not the only one feeding so often, Sophie sounds just like Hannah short quick feeds more often
I just let Robert cry himself to sleep and I feel like the worst mum in the world. Last night it was hourly feeds and little or no sleep for both of us so I was deterimined to have a good day.
Our morning started out so well too....
I gave him a feed at 645 then he had some "floor time" laying on a quilt marvelling at dust bunnies floating around the room while I had my breakfast. After I had finished and he was starting to get frustrated I gave him a nice warm bath and dressed him. I then put him into bed for a sleep - he slept for an hour. Once he woke up I gave him another feed and we headed out for a drive and became members at our local library. I was feeling pretty good by this stage and even managed to time it right that we were back home in time for his next feed. The plan was then to put him to bed for a bigger sleep. That's where it fell apart.
He had his feed, I burped and changed him then gave him a cuddle and told him it was time for a sleep and put him into his cot. All good - for about 40 seconds. He started crying. I talked to him and held his hands and he settled again and then I left the room. Cue, screaming! I came back into the room and soothed him again then walked out again.....cue more screaming!! He had worked himself up this time (I had to go to the loo so was gone a bit longer) so I picked him up and gave him a cuddle and talked to him. I also changed his nappy. I could tell that he was really really tired so I put him back into bed. This time it lasted for about a minute before he started crying. I ignored him for about 2 minutes which felt like 20. Then abruptly the screams stopped. I peeked in his room and his eyes were open but he just looked so sad. I stayed out of sight so he wouldn't start up again and he closed his eyes. He's been asleep for about 15 minutes now and I feel absolutely horrid and haven't stopped crying since.
I'm just so tired from last night. I really can't wait til my mum gets here on Friday.
Cass - stop beating yourself up!! You're on your own and doing the best you can with basically no help. I don't know how you're managing and if leaving Robert for two minutes of crying is the worst you've done then you are doing very well :hug: I usually let Toby fall asleep on me but I have DH, my Dad and my sister here so I don't have to do all the other stuff that it takes to run a house-hold. Dad's leaving tomorrow and I'm already freaking out about how I'm going to cope! He's been amazing with DD - lots of trips to the park, playing outside and playing dolls. Not to mention cooking all the meals and whipping up a freezer full of baking for me on Saturday. My Mum wasn't the great help I'd been hoping for (actually quite the opposite but that's another story) so it was so nice when Dad arrived. You only have to get through another 3 days and then you will have some support. Make the most of it! Lots of day-time sleeping, ok?
I hear you all on the wind issue. Last night Toby was really unsettled between 9ish and 11ish. Lots of screaming, which made me cry. DH eventually got him settled and he slept until 4.15am :o He usually wakes every 2-3 hrs so I was amazed. We've found that if we let him sleep on us for an hour or so when he's unsettled he'll transfer in to his bed okay and stay settled.
M2W - Do you find that Sophie has a windy tummy before you feed her? I hadn't thought about trying to get wind out before a feed. Will give it a go tonight.
Toby seems to get most upset when he's trying to poo. He's not constipated just grunts and groans and cries before he has an explosion in his nappy. Haven't figured out a way to help it through yet. Any suggestions?
thrilled - I try and just feed on one side at a time too. My GP said it can help settle their tummies as they get all the hind-milk, which also keeps them satisfied longer. I find if I chop and change too much between boobies Toby gets a sore belly from too much fore-milk.
Enough from me. Sorry I can't keep up with M2W on the personals but I do love hearing from all of you :D
Here's hoping for a good night of sleep for all of us.
Thanks Jandals.
As an update, Robert slept soundly (while I continued with bouts of tears) until just after 3.30 when I woke him for a feed - I still wanted to stick to that no more than 3 hours apart feeds during the day, besides which my boobs were killing me! After his feed I took him for a walk down to the shops to get some bits and pieces, he was content to lay in the pram and fell asleep half way there. He wanted another feed by 6 which was fine with me. After my dinner I ran a nice warm bath for the both of us which was very relaxing. Then I gave him a top-up feed and put him to bed in his cot, it took 3 goes to get him off to sleep, but none of that letting him cry, this time I rocked him and sang to him. He's been asleep for just over half hour and I'll wake him again after the Mentalist has finished for another feed and put him back to bed.
Feijoa-Oh I love my hug a bub! It is so great. Sometimes the only way to get Lennox to sleep is to put him in there and walk around. I have a ergo carrier but find it a bit too bulky to put on, it's good for when bubs is a bit older. Also sometimes I eat weetbix for dinner lol!
Cass- I know how you feel with bub screaming, both my lil guys have been screamers but Lennox can be settled a lot easier thank goodness. I never thought I would use a dummy but I have to say, some nights it's a life saver! I just get too tired and just sleep next to Len to get him to settle or back to sleep. I do miss out on doing things but while my DH is home I am going to make the most of it!
M2W- Wow Sophie is doing great! That is so fantastic she has put on half her birth weight. I don't understand why people say breastfed babies don't put on much weight. Well people keep telling me that and when I went to Weigh Lennox and found he had put on quite a bit of weight for a week old, the nurse was very surprised!!
So amazing you did so well with your first week at home by yourself. Oh and very glad to hear that DS has settled down again.
I am finding now that I am starting to catch up on all those sleepless nights and just feel so tired!
Lennox sleeps for 4 hourly stints in the day but at night he wakes up every 2 hrs or so and wants to just feed all night.
I am going to have to work out some kind of routine with the 2 boys. Wish me luck!
Hello ladies,
I have been reading all your post but haven't had much to say, I just agree with everything that is being said so I guess it's nice too know that we are all in the same boat.
Week 3 sucks, I knew it would. Sleep dep has really kicked in and hormones have dipped right down; having said that I am coping a lot better than I did with the other two, I had PND with both whereas this time I just feel blue/grumpy. Tobi's longest stretch seems to be after the midnight feed where he goes 4.5hrs between feeds (can't wait till he goes longer) otherwise he is a strict 3 hr man.
Jandals- When Toby is struggling to poo you can try lifting his legs and maybe even circle them around which sort of massages their tummy and can help them "get it out".
You are all doing a wonderful job.
Hugs
QB
Deedles, I did some reading on "excessive night feeding". Basically what happens is that if bubs sleeps longer during the day then he is well rested to get his calorie intake at night. Because his tummy is small he has to feed little and often. The site I was looking at suggested waking bubs for a feed (feeding roughly every 3 hours in the early weeks) during the day.
The "solution" is....
... quite simply to wake your baby occasionally in the day for his feeds. This is not cruel – as we have just examined it is about making sure his nutritional needs are met. Try to feed your baby roughly every three hours or so in the very early days. As he gets older, try to keep him awake for short periods after each daytime feed, and keep night feeds as quiet and calm as possible. This helps him to learn the difference between day and night.
If you manage to get most of his daily requirement of milk into your baby in the hours between 7.00am and midnight, he has a greater chance of sleeping for a longer chunk of time at night – and so have you.
I'm giving this a shot....gosh anything's worth a try right?
Robert woke at 1230, then 230, then 530 last night for feeds. I was pleased because each time he settled back down to sleep - as opposed to Sunday night when he was just awake from 1230 to 4!!
Only 31 sleeps til DH gets home!!
Roxxie – YAY, great to hear your bubs has arrived. Congrats!!!
Mum2Willie – thanks for the encouragement. I will breastfeed regardless of the nipple pain (better for bubs and I have plenty of milk), but thankfully my nipples seem to be improving.
Jandals – The lactation consultant suggested me feeding on one side only (in early stage) was what caused my lumps and blockages – so hopefully you don’t have those problems. Also she said by 2-3wks bubs should be getting to the hindmilk within a 10min feed on average, so its fine (and recommended) to change to the other boob for more feeding to keep yourself balanced. However each to his own of course!
Cass – I like to let bubs go to sleep on me then put him down in bed so he keeps sleeping. However I cant imagine how tough it is being on your own – must say Im a bit scared about when DH goes back to work …. Just read your post from today – sounds like things are settling for Robert and you which is great!
Thrilled – Ciaran did that yesterday (fed from one boob all day then fell asleep before getting to the other one). Thankfully seems to be back to normal today as my boobs were feeling a bit odd with all the one sided feeds.
Feijoa – nice name… hope your little girl is settling in well to the household of boys!
Update on us
Well after making some changes to my feeding – no more sleepy night time feeds in bed as I think that’s when my nipples where getting damaged by a sleeping baby, and starting on his preferred side (which he tend to comfort suck on for ages), and rubbing some milk on my nipples after each feed, Im happy to advise they are improving and the pain is decreasing each day. HOORAY! Good bye sore, cracked nipples.
Ciaran has become way more alert and watchful over the past 3 days or so. He now watches me when he feeds – same as you mentioned thrilled – so im sure he is starting to really recognise my face and not just my voice or smell.
We ventured out yesterday to the chiro for another checkup and all is well for all three of us in the household. It ended up being a big arvo adventure, with a few stops on the way home (via hubbys work to drop off stuff) and made slightly more challenging by the little man deciding to change his routine and spend all day feeding only on one boob, then falling asleep for an hour, then waking for more (he is normally 2hrly as a min for day feeds). Anyway we survived and he is back to feeding on two boobs to my relief today – gives me a bit more time to get stuff done!
On an other note, Ive spend the last few days washing my tops as my milk has started to leak a lot (previously didn’t really loose a drop). Has anyone else had a change in this area???
My dad, brother and his wife are all visiting tomorrow for the Easter weekend from interstate – Im so looking forward to having them here! Plus I figure there will be people to hold Ciaran at meal times, so I may actually be able to eat some hot, freshly prepared food for a change!
Cheers, Bree
Shell - Glad there is someone feeding like me!!
Cass - What about lying on the couch with a DVD and letting Robert sleep on you....I did this for my survival with DS1 who never slept unless attached to me...Definitely agree with the feeding often in the daytime..with DS1 i tried to stuff him in the day and by 8 weeks he slept through..it was bliss..and he did start feeding 2 hourly day and night...here's hoping it works for Sophie too..
Jandals - I find Soph always has wind - before and after a feed. I find that if I bend her knees into her tummy before a feed she nearly always farts ...and as her tummy isn't full it pushes the air out and not milk out of her mouth. She feeds to be so full that milk just spills out her mouth making burping etc more difficult. It seems to be helping Sophie since I have been doing it the last couple of days before each feed...
Sophie is the same with the poo - very upset before. Sometimes, by bending her knees up to her tummy it helps the poo come out quicker..otherwise only cuddles to help her through her moments of pain! Love to hear any other tips too.
Deedles - Glad Lennox has put on great weight too. Juggling two is very interesting isn't it!!!!
QG - Glad you r feeling well other than sleep dep.
Bree - Gr8 nipples improving...it had a sore nipple one night after falling asleep feeding Soph. I am very leaky - more so lately as Soph takes more with each feed! Also, I remember leaking more when feeds became more time apart with my son...actually when he first started sleeping through I would wake up drenched and have to change and sleep with a towel under me!!! But, I have oversupply issues...(which I know I should never complain about!!)
ATM - Soph has been very good the last day and night...she actually went 3.5hours last night!! Yeah!! First time past three hours. I got 3 hours sleep in a row for the first time since she was born!!!!
On the negative - toddler is sick and driving me absolutely insane. Got doctor's appointment for him tomorrow! He has a chesty cough and is whingey to the absolute max...testing my patience to the limits...
Gotta go - Soph crying
What an awesome night!!! Robert had a feed at around 8pm then didn't wake again for another feed until midnight. I went to bed just after 830pm - my first 3 hour sleep (straight!). What a difference that made. He had his next feed at 3am then we got out of bed just after 6am. I actually feel refreshed this morning.
Hi everyone,
Just touching base quickly while both DS and DD are asleep. All I can say is WOW! how quickly the last two weeks have flown by.
I have only just quickly scanned the last few posts and will attempt to make personals soon. Good to see that everyone is coping fairly well and that all the bubs are doing well.
Sophie and I are also going well. She is feeding pretty much every 3 hrs during day and then anything from 3-5hrs during night, which has been wonderful. She is a very alert bub, she spends a lot of time awake and looking around during the day - very different to DS who slept heaps more during the day at this stage. She is also a very 'sucky' bub, would happily fall asleep on the boob if she could, but I give her a dummy so that I can attempt to get things done around home.
Yesterday I was fortunate enough to get a 24hr gastro bug which was just fantastic :wall: Luckily DS was in care for the day so other than feeding DD, I spent the day on the couch! Still suffering a little today with lack of energy and a horrible headache but otherwise much better. I suspect my milk levels have dropped off a little bit as a result as Sophie has been feeding a little more than normal - note to self that I must drink some more water!
The biggest issue we seem to be having at the moment is with DS who has been playing up more and refusing to have his day sleeps again. I suspect part of the problem is also that I am less tolerant at the moment. Generally though he is a very loving big brother, always asking "where's baby?" or running up to her when she is on her rug and trying to either cuddle her or pick her up.
DH is still off work but has been making the most of his time to do things around the house that need doing (i.e. making gates), rather than helping me inside, which is somewhat frustrating. Yet I am also aware that the gates he is making will help me when he returns to work, as DS has learnt how to open the back door and has been making a run for it, so the gates will keep him within the house yard.
Otherwise, I am looking forward to my parents returning for a few days over easter, as they only ended up staying for 2 days after we got home as they had appointments and things they had to go home for (they didn't think I would go 'over-time'!!). It means they will also be here for the couple of days when DH goes back to work.
Anyway, I had better get off here and go finish putting the groceries away and do a quick tidy up before tea.
I will say Happy Easter to everyone now in case I don't get a chance to get back on here later. :D
P.S. Hi to Mum2Willie, Deedles, Shell1 and Miamunchkin who I haven't met before. Hope you don't mind us 'strays' hanging on to this thread but we didn't want to leave our other thread buddies who managed to go on time!!! ;)
Just got back from the mothers group (it's held down at the child health clinic). Robert has put on another 350g this week - he's now 4.34kg (or 9lb, 9oz).
Lou - Thanx for welcome and hope you feel better soon!
Cass - Glad you had a great night! Robert is the same weight as Sophie at 4 weeks!!!
I have had a shocker in the last 24 hours!!! DH went off the touch football last night and all was calm (even though toddler sick). Literally as he walked out the door, Sophie started screaming and didn't stop until 8.45pm. She fed hourly...which she has never done before! Toddler was sick and sooky and refused to go to sleep without me lying with him...which I could not do with Sophie screaming ... so I didn't get him to sleep until 9pm at which point he was hysterical from being overtired!!! So I had dinner at 9.30pm.
On the brighter side, Sophie then slept until 12.30 and then woke at 2am but I just resettled her in 2 mins and then she woke at 4am and 6am, but they were nearly 4 hour blocks between feeds which is a pleasing sign!
On the other hand, she has been atrocious today...screaming!!!! She is really letting go...basically I have had to hold her all day...she will only lie down for 15mins without me...she must have a very sore tummy. She did a projectile vomit at 12.45 and then had a sleep for about an hour.
Soph screamed from 11.30 to 12.45 vomit!! Just as I was supposed to be putting toddler to sleep for midday nap...Soph finally calmed at 1pm and which time I re-attempted to put toddler to sleep...got him to sleep at 1.20pm...and Soph was up again at 1.30!!!! At least toddler slept for 1.5hrs!
Crazy times!!! I am trying very hard to keep my patience.
Went to doctor today...said we are both sick...but just have to fight it off! So - here's hoping we all perk up soon and Sophie has a calmer next 24hours.
I can't wait until weekend and DH is around to help!!
Happy long Easter weekend all!! Hope you get some rest...
We will be busy...have DH's family lunch on Friday, BBQ for DH's friend over from Spain on Saturday and my family over on Sunday!
Breesa - thanks for the info from your lactation consultant. Will give it a go feeding from both sides. Toby's a bit of a slower feeder though so not sure it will work time wise? He does have both sides at some feeds but over night he will usually fall asleep after one. No problems with lumps any more, thank goodness, but my nipples are still a bit tender at the very start of a feed. And yes, I leak like a leaky thing :rolleyes: So annoying when I hop out of the shower nice and clean and end up a sticky mess before I've had a chance to get the breast pads in place!
Cass - glad you had a better night. Long may it continue!
Lou - nice to hear from you. I am in awe of you mums that have toddlers. I had my first day with no DH today and I found it pretty hard work with DD - and DH was home by lunch-time! I'm feeling pretty guilty for being so grumpy with DD. Trying so hard to include her and not grump but sometimes the tiredness takes over and I'm much shorter than I'd like to be :shakehead: And she's such a sensitive wee thing I know she's feeling the change. Toby's also a sucky baby and I'm all for the dummy. Seems to really help him go off to sleep when he's a bit wound up. Hope you're feeling better for the weekend. Tummy bugs are awful.
M2W - Toby's been a bit like Sophie today. I can't put him down and he just wants to feed and even if he's fast asleep he'll wake when I put him down. He was the same yesterday and I'm desperately hoping he's not going to have reflux like DD. She didn't sleep for more than 2 hrs at a time over night and about 20 mins during the day until she was about 8 mths old. Needless to say I ended up a complete mess with PND. Toby's started out so differently and I think he's more windy than refluxy, but the fear is still in the back of my mind that he may go the same way.
I ventured to the mall on Monday and was a bit surprised at how achey I was after only a couple of hours of wandering around. I've been resting so much I guess I hadn't realised that every-thing's obviously still healing. It was a good reminder that I need to make sure I don't do too much too soon. I'm getting frustrated that I can't vacuum or lift anything much but I am grateful that my recovery has been really good so far compared to what some c/s girls experience.
Are you all enjoying the easter eggs that are around?? I am - probably a bit too much :redface: Especially the big hollow bunny I bought for me and DH to 'share'. My waistline (or what used to be a waist) will be pleased when easter's over!
I'm back again.... was going to post more earlier, but Robert had other ideas! He's having a nap in his cot right now so I can enjoy a cup of tea and write some more! :clap:
Well, I started at a "1st time parents" group which is run by the child health clinic. The program is run over 6 weeks and includes topics such as: introduction to parenting; looking after yourself; play and development; baby budgeting; babies dental health; and, a visit to the library. It's nice to meet other mums in the area. The babies range from ages of 3 weeks to 9 weeks. The child health nurse [CHN] invited me to attend as it's been such a long time between babies (15 years!). I've never been involved in a group like this and actively avoided them when I had DS1. To my surprise I enjoyed the outing. I don't know if it was the group or just getting out of the house! I think it will be good to be able to compare notes. We spoke about how things change. The CHN said things that have changed include when to introduce solids, 6 months is the recommended age (I introduced solids into DS1's diet at 3 months). Anyway I will see how it goes.
On other news, DS1 is having exams this week - his first serious ones!! Ha-ha, welcome to year 10 sunshine, school just starts to get tougher! Oh, I'm a mean mum!
M2W, sorry you are having such a tough time with your little one. Just look after both of you and I hope it passes over soon. I guess you have to ride these illnesses out huh? It's pretty awful though when you know you can't do much for them. Just give her lots of love and attention.
Lou, gastro.... nice, NOT!! Keep up your fluids and take it easy. Don't do too much.
Breesa, I noticed the sore nipples with sleepy (on my behalf) feeds. I find it's better for both of us to actually get out of bed do it properly. What could be a nice quick 30 - 45 minute turnaroud time turns out to be over an hour with both of us dozing and my nipples extremely sore. It's just convincing yourself to get out of bed that's the hard part. OMG! What are we going to be like in winter? I hope he's "sleeping through".
Arrrgggghhhhhh :wall:
I was silly enough to venture to the shops today for a bit of girly retail therapy.
Introduce Peppar to the joys of girls day out :clap:
I desperately want some casual clothes. You know comfy but still tidy tops suitable for feeding that ARENT maternity. Not too much to ask is it??
Well clearly it is.
Nothing says go home fatty, like trying to pour myself into a top that makes me look like a cooked sausage about to burst its skin!!!
So disheartening :shakehead: and if Target didnt have 25% of kids and babies clothes I think I may have been forced to console myself at Muffin Break!
Pheww that was close :redface:
Feijoa, I admire you for even thinking about going shopping. I'm just wearing daggy old clothes at the moment. I think I'll tackle shopping when DH is home - he has great taste and knows what suits me. Besides he can be entertaining Robert while I try things on.
I haven't even done a grocery shop yet. I've been down the road to get bits and pieces but I'm waiting til my mum gets here on the weekend to tackle the supermarket.
Hi all,
Having a really hard day ... but reading all your posts has really perked me up.
What I am going through is normal. Phew.
Thankyou so much Queen Bee for saying week 3 sucks. It sure does. We have fed bang on 2 hourly today & yesterday and when not feeding, we scream. I've tried everything ... rocking, patting, singing, lullabuy music, baby massage, my sling, the pram, the glider chair, infants friend drops for wind, a short car ride ... sometimes the screaming has stoped, we then fall asleep for maybe 20 minutes and then we scream again. I really hope this is the 'unsettled 24-48 hours' that they talk about in the week 3 growth spurt.
Oh and Breesa, I know what your talking about - a hot, fresh meal is such a luxury these days. Am slowly learning that mothers come last ... last to shower, last to eat, last to sleep etc!
Am so pleased that I am not the only one suffering with the night feeds, the exhaustion that fully breastfeeding causes and the disrupted sleep from co-sleeping. Co-sleeping was never our plan, but it's just easier to let Willow fall fully aseep on us and then transfer to bassinet.
I cannot wait for the Easter break ... to have DH home for 4 days to help out.
I am in awe of you girls managing on your own - you really are doing a tremendous job. Well done.
Have written on our notice board "Untill Willow is 6 weeks old ... near enough is good enough". Got this mantra from my Trescillian book 'How to stay sane in your baby's first year' - highly reccommended.
I turned 28 on Tuesday ... safe to say I feel 128 today.
Hi Thrilled, week 3 does pass! I'm going to put your mantra on our fridge - might change it a bit.... Until Robert is 6 months old near enough is good enough!! :ROFL: There's not really that much advice that I can give you except "hang in there".
My mum and dad are going to be here tomorrow! My mum and dad are going to be here tomorrow! My mum and dad are going to be here tomorrow! :dance: ... okay, you get the picture! Looking forward to having some extra hands around the place.
We just got back from a walk - it was nice to get out. It's a lovely day here and the fresh air does us both good. While he's still sleeping I'm going to clean the cupboards under my kitchen sink - they're attrocious!!
Oh, just got an invite to FILs upcoming nuptials. He's getting married on 10 July down in Albany. Will have to book some accommodation and hire a bus to fit all the kids in!! Still haven't worked out what to do on the whole new car thing. Thankfully we haven't all gone anywhere together yet.
Hi ladies
Cass - glad to hear you are excited about your parents arrival! I'm also in Perth and going to try and get out in the sun-she-yine this afternoon.
Thrilled82 - hang in there - sounds like you are doing great!
Feijoa Mum - know what you mean about shopping. I went to the local shops the other day to get a pair of jeans that fit. Fraser slept the whole way there but as soon as I stepped into that changing room - ping, he was awake and girning. It's depressing not having any nice clothes that fit.
Jandals - take it easy! Try and not do too much as you need time to recover.
Mum2willie - hope you are all feeling better soon!
Lou76 - hope things are working out better for you.
Hi to everyone else I have missed!
Glad to hear that I'm not the only one that that is going it tough at the moment - maybe it's also Week 3-itis! On Tuesday night, Fraser wouldn't settle at all. He screamed and screamed, which isn't like him. We noticed it seemed to be wind, but we couldn't get it up or down. Luckily, I had some Brauer Colic Relief in the drawer so I gave him that and it settled him enough to get him to sleep (after 3 hours of screaming). Through the night, it was a case of feeding him as quickly as possible and not changing nappies on every feed, to try and keep him settled. He woke up screaming every time, poor soul. Anyway, daylight hours yesterday, he screamed from 6 am right through to about 11 am, when he wore himself out. Slept on and off for about half an hour at a time and I couldn't lay him down at all. He also wasn't taking proper feeds, just grazing all day. DH arrived home at 3 pm and he carried on "cuddles" to try and settle him so I could get a break. It was around then that we realised he hadn't had a poo for about 15 hours, although he had lots and lots of eye watering smelly pumps. We gave him some cooled boiled water and another drop of Colic Relief and that seemed to settle him a bit. At about 8 pm last night, we had a "Number 3 - Poo Explosion", which came out of the nappy and was all up his back, over his vest and his muslin. The look of relief on his face said it all! After that, he settled really well, although he woke up every 90 mins through the night for a half feed - must have still been trying to get his system back into rythym, poor little man! Today has been good so far - he's asleep at the moment, athough still not back up to full feeds.
Goodness, sounds like some of you are having a really hard time; it's so stressful when they cry like that.
Well we had an "ordeal" today. We had a paedetrician (sp?) visit to check bub's thyroid as I have an under active thyroid and it can affect the baby. I thought that it wouldn't take more than an hour but we ended up spending half the day at the hospital. Bubs is making a funny sound sometimes when he breathes so they wanted a chest Xray and he had to have his blood test done again as they stuffed up the first one, not enough blood. We had to wait for ages as doctors were on lunch etc. Then they had a lot of difficulty getting blood out of him. I sat in the next room listening to him scream whilst they tried endlessly to get his blood; it was agony. We are all exhausted now and we are meant to be going to see DH family tomorrow and they are 1.5hrs drive away....we'll see how tonight goes but if we have another bad one I'm not going anywhere.
I was told not to give any water, but iv heard its good for wind?
anyone think it works?
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shell, I went to a chemist today to try and get something for my little guy's wind, and they told me two things (apart from the medication for it).
1)if bub is fed with formula, to change to an 'original' formula and not the 'gold' version as these are too heavy for little babies, and 2) to give them room temperature boiled water (with a tiny bit of sugar as they don't like the plain taste). She said they only might take a couple of ml. or so, but it's supposed to help relieve constipation/wind.
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beata I am willing to try anything at the moment as well. Poor lil guy does the smelliest fluffs I have ever smelt. My mum told me to try infants friend or something like that but I don't know much about it.
queen Bee poor lil bub. Hope you all get a nice nights rest and relaxation!
So tired today but I am not really sure why. Have been getting a decent amount of sleep but I guess you just feel tired with a new born.
We finally went out and brought a new pram today. Now I am ready to tackle the streets with my 2 lil guys.
Hope you all have a lovely long weekend with family.
Thanks Beata hun, great to know! You're a star! :D
Shell I have a book from our hospital that says to try cooled boiled water, thats why we tried it, and it seemed to do the trick. Only prob was it didn't say how much so we did 20 ml.
Deedles, a friend from my baby buddy thread told me to try Infants Friend drops, she swears by it. So I have been giving my little guy 3 doses a day (my friend said you can give the drops before or after a feed, directly into the bottle if formula feedind, or if b/f before or after a feed directly into the mouth). My paedetrician said morning, afternoon and night is enough. The drops help with colic and wind, and even with teething later on. It's supposed to keep the bowels regular. The dosage on the bottle says for babies up to 1 month old you can give 5 to 10 drops, and then the dosage goes up for 1 to 3 months old to 10 to 20 drops. Hope it helps! Look it up on the web site.
Miamunchkin, hi hun!!! Good to see you're doing well :D With the cooled boiled water, the lady at the chemist said to give them what they are willing to take, they will pee the excess out anyway!
Happy Easter everone!
Thanks girls i will make some up- iv been using infants friend it does work, i want to try infocol (spelling)
its 3 each afternoon Hannah screams for about 2 hours from wind and then during the night she screams mostly between 2 and 4 sigh poor little girl..
I am getting a close carrier next week ordered it from the Uk much cheaper then getting it here, so i hope by wearing that so she is upright during the day it will help with her wind build up i hope!
Beata - good to know with the amount of water! We weren't sure so didn;t want to try too much. We've only had to do it the once.
Shell - great about the close carrier! The exchange rate is really good for buying from the UK at the moment! I got our GroEgg from there for a fraction of the price!
We're currently using the Brauer Colic Relief but I have ordered some Infants Friend and a few of the other Brauer products. Someone (forgive me for not remembering who) on here said earlier that the Infacol is a bit harsher and you have to give it before a feed? Will look up the website on Infant's Friend though.
Does anyone know if it's okay to give them these things quite regularly? I obviously don't want to if I can help it, but Fraser seems to have had a particularly few windy days and it breaks my heart to see him in pain!
Happy Easter everyone and keep enjoying the snuggles! x
We are using Infants Friend and finding it does give Willow some relief.
We are still not sure what is making her cry as she doesn't give away the dead set wind signs (pulling legs up etc), but the Infants Friend is helping quieten her, so we are going with colic or wind being the culpret to her screaming.
I am pretty sure it's ok to give it to bubs fairly regularly - as in after each feed I suppose. We have given it to Willow a few times a day, maybe three times on a particularly bad day.
Happy Easter to all!
Gosh I hope I don't jinx myself but..... Robert hasn't had any really bad wind/collicy problems so I can't offer any advice on the water or infants friend. Fingers crossed it stays that way! :pray:
Last night he went 3 & half hours between feeds which was great, I'm hoping he keeps that up. During the day I'm sticking with 3 hour feeds (from the first one in the morning to the last "night time" one at around 8.30-9ish) even if I do have to wake him for it. He had no interest in having a sleep this morning so I took him for a half hour walk - which he just enjoyed, I even got a couple of "coos" out of him. He fell asleep just as we were coming up the driveway, but then it was only for about half hour. He's just gone down for his "big nap" now.
Hi everyone,
I've read all the posts but can't remember enough to reply. Having a rough day - haven't gotten out of my pj's yet and had a couple of teary episodes. Lacie has had an awful couple of nights. Three nights ago she screamed from 10.30pm till 4am, she'd stop to feed but then start up again straight afterwards. Thought it must be wind so sat up with her, bouncing her etc, trying to get it out and no luck. She finally passed out at 4ish and was awake again about 5.30. The next night was much the same. Yesterday we noticed she was having less wet nappies throughout the day, and with my nipples being so sore I thought I'd try expressing for a while. Discovered what the problem is - an hour of expressing resulted in just 10 mls of milk. No wonder she feeds for so long and sleeps so much during it, the poor little thing must have been starving.
Tried expressing hourly to try and keep the milk coming, so far it hasn't helped. Gave in this morning and sent DF out to get some formula so now I'm expressing about every 2 hours and giving her that, with formula as top up. She had her first formula bottle at 1pm today and has been sleeping peacefully ever since. I feel so bad that I didn't realise sooner that the BF wasn't enough. I'm going to keep expressing and hoping that the milk comes back, I did have a really good supply so I'm not sure what happened.
Anyway, better go try expressing again while she's still snoozing. Hope everyone is okay xxx