oh I wish Oscar had 3 day sleeps.
We noramlly get 14 or so hours sleep, most of that overnight and maybe 1-2 hours during the day
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oh I wish Oscar had 3 day sleeps.
We noramlly get 14 or so hours sleep, most of that overnight and maybe 1-2 hours during the day
Hi Girls,
Sorry I too have been MIA, time just gets away from me. Have managed to lurk a bit but honestly haven't had the energy to post.
I'm glad to hear some of you have started solids, Jack's has started waking during the night so I am thinking solids soon. I started the other 2 on rice cereal at 5 months, but I don't think I can wait that long for Jack.
TMTM, poor Jack has an ear infection too, he was so miserable. I managed to aviod giving him penicillen and he was finally back to himself today with lots of smiles. I hope Tom picks up soon for you.
Re sleeping, Jack generally has a 1.5 to 2 hour morning sleep, will then go back down at around 1pm and sleep for another 2 hours, and then sometimes have a nap in his bouncer around 6pm and is generally in bed by 8pm. (depending how we are going with the older boys).
Sorry for the selfish post, glad to hear everyones bubs are doing well.
rayray: wow 14 hours, I'm jealous. that's amazing. Max will sleep for 10 hours, with 2-3 wake-ups. He's slept through from 8pm to 7am on occasion, usually after DH takes him for a run in the mountain buggy...must be all the fresh air!
TM: good to hear that XP has got a diagnosis and you can both move forward being great parents to little Jade.
AFM, I just got Max weighed today. 18 weeks today and he weighs 9.1kgs!
What a heffalump! I knew he was heavy, but not that heavy...he's off the charts again. :)
I felt like such a bad mother yesterday. He went down for a nap at 4pm and put himself back to sleep after one sleep cycle (which is very rare), woke up hungry at 6pm, so I fed him and he fell asleep feeding. At 8pm he was still asleep even after several attempts to wake him up, so I put him to bed and was going to give him a dreamfeed at 10:30pm and DH noticed that his room smelt a bit when he walked in. Poor little thing had vomited all over himself and had done a big poo. I think he had a bit of an upset tummy and was sleeping it off...and I was happy that he was sleeping so much! But after the spew and the poo, he was back to normal and woke up three times last night to make up for it!
We had vaccinations last week...not a single cry. Such a brave boy!
Hope everyone and their little ones are going well!
TreeCP of course you arent a bad mum. I remember Milo got gastro once when he was still pretty little and we only found out when I went in to check him and he was covered in vomit, giggling :(
We get weighed on Thursday, so I will be keen to see how big Oscar is.
Today he rolled from front to back for the first time so that was vry exciting!
Thanks girls for your imput on the day sleeps, it seems that Sienna is pretty 'normal'.
TMTM - I found the lactation cookies but decided to try the activite instead (just cause I'm lazy and can't be bothered baking at the moment). i had just bought the fenugreek caps too so have been on them. I think that my milk as increased a little so that's good.
I think I'll start Sienna on some rice cereal today and see if she is interested. I think she is hungry thus feeding more at night while still feeding 2-3 hourly during the day, gotta try something, I need more sleep!:pray:
How is everyone else going with the milk only for 6 months? I've never waited the full 6 months but with my other 2 I at least made it to 5 so this time I feel a bit aprehensive about starting at 4 I guess I'll just try and if she isn't interested then I'll stop and perservere with the constant breastfeeding for a bit longer.:wall:
TMTM - almost forgot to ask. How is Tom? Has his cough settled down? Hope he is feeling better now.
Does anyone know how many fenugreek caps I should be taking a day?
Tam you can't really od on them, so as many as it takes to make yor sweat smell a bit like maple syrup! I was having three capsules three times a day. Hope it works!:
Thanks for askin re Tom - he's just about all better now tho I've got his cold. I've started him on a little solid food now. He has a tablespoon or two of rice cereal or pears for dinner which he loves but it isn't helping with sleep. He's still feeding two to three hours round the clock! He was doing so well till he got sick, now we're back to square one.
Oscar is 8.455kg and 66.5cm long
Hes either on 95th or 97th centile or above for pretty much everything, but is starting to drop off and follow the curve so its all good :)
TMTM Im glad Tom is better, not so much fun for you though :(
HI girls
Not sure if this will help or confuse you but in one of the multitude of sleeping books and articles I have read in a bid to avoid having another child with sleep issues I stumbled over a bit about the stage our bubs are all in or entering.
One school of thought is that around the 5-6 mth mark most babies start night wakings again and generally it is put down to hunger and starting solids is the answer but in many cases there is little improvement. This is because at this age their sleep cycles change from those of a newborn and into those of a child and continue to develop as they grow.
If they have been relying on feeding, rocking or some other type of settling aid that they don't control, eg a blanket comforter they control, their brains are developing to realise that they need that to go to sleep and everytime they come out of a sleep cycle they need that thing to put them to sleep. Each developmental stage or upheaval in their lives, unless they learn to self settle, this will rear its ugly head again... hence where we are with Jake and his sleeping issues (but that is an essay in itself).
Just thought it may help - I am no expert on sleep!
TMTM I hope wee Tom will settle his feeds down again for you maybe he has had a growth spurt and needs his meds readjusted?
Ray I know what it is like to have what everyone else calls a monster baby - Jake was 95-97th percentile for most of his life to date except for weight and that is just bcos he is such a tall boy. He is only 2.5 and the assumption is constantly made he is 3 or 4.
Rayray, big baby boy!! You're clearly doing really well!!! I was supposed to get Tom weighed and measured last week and I FORGOT. Mummy FAIL. Well, he was sick.
Nelly, I have certainly noticed around six months my kids have been horrible sleepers. Tom has just never really been good - he only got good for about a week, and then he got sick. I'm ringing the Queen Elizabeth Centre in the morning to talk to someone. I'm not depressed, the antidepressants have kept that at bay really well, but I'm honestly not sure how much more of this I can take, not with all the other kids to look after as well. If there's truly nothing I can do then I'll go with it, obviously. But I'm worried about my mental health long term. Sigh.
I think you are right about the growth spurt though. This morning he just *looked* bigger, his head looked bigger. When I pumped earlier while he was at daycare (he goes a half day a week) I got 7 ounces, which is much more than I'd normally get. And he's getting so strong - he loves to stand on his legs and gets quite grumpy if you don't help him up to them.
Here's something amazing - my little nephew is twelve weeks older than Tom. AND HE IS WALKING. 7 1/2 months. He never crawled, he just got up last week and walked to his Dad. I have never heard of a baby walking so early, EVER. Can't wait to see him at Tom's baptism on Sunday!!
Hi ladies! I've been lurking, just too slack to post anything. There's been a lot happening here though. Not sure how much I'll be able to fit in one post, but I'll try. ;)
TMTM - I hope you guys had a beautiful day for Master Tom's Baptism. And I can't believe that your nephew is walking already! What a clever boy! I hope he's starting to settle in to a better routine soon too...you poor thing. Just keep telling yourself it can't go on forever! Hey, are you in Melbourne? I just had a thought - do your BBs still feel full at the end of the day? I thought mine were ok because Emma would "go down" at night time, but she started waking up in the middle of the night and needing extra feeds (even after I had been giving her solids). The midwife suggested I express some milk first thing in the morning and offer it to her after her "last" feed of the night. It worked wonders for her - I think she must have been thirsty!
Nelly - that's interesting about the sleeping stuff. At the moment Emma has a bunny that she sleeps with. I'm torn between leaving it, and trying to get rid of it. Upside of having it is that it is a sleep cue for her wherever we are. Downside is if she can't find it sometimes when she wakes up, or, heaven forbid I ever lose it! (I went and bought another one today just in case! lol) Hope Jake starts sleeping better soon!
Ray Ray - what a lovely healthy boy! Are you on FB? Or are there photos in the BB gallery? I'd love to see pics. And how amazing about cutting 2 teeth already. Very clever! :D
Tam - how did Sienna go with the rice cereal? I'm taking Fenugreek capsules when I remember as my milk supply is starting to drop off. I'm having to express every morning, and feed her what I get out at night before bed (I offer her both sides first, then the bottle of EBM). Hopefully this will help build my supply up, and I can eventually stop that, but it's working at the moment for helping her sleep, so I'll keep it up as long as I can!
Hi to everyone else - I'm going to end up writing a novel if I keep going like this, lol!
AFM - We started on solids a few weeks back. Rafferty's Garden rice cereal and fruits at first, and Emma LOVES her food! I've been naughty and given her teething rusks this week too, as she was gnawing on everything she could get her hands on, and so far she's really enjoying those.
She's sleeping really well these days. After much thought I decided to try controlled crying, and I can't believe the difference it's made to her. I was deadset against it before now, but she is a much happier baby for it (strange but true). It took one day of hell, where I felt like the worst mother in the world, but then she started to happily go down in to her cot for sleep times. And now she'll sleep in her cot, porta-cot or pram quite well. So I know it's not for everyone, but we had reached a stage where I knew that she had worked out how to make us come running when she wanted to be held while she slept, and even after 2 hours of bouncing her, she'd open her eyes when we tried to put her down. And I just make sure that when she's up we have lots of cuddles, and play time.
We've had lots of firsts this last few weeks - first swimming lessons, and first time rolling over (both from front to back, and back to front, but not together). I'm finding that this is just the most amazing journey ever - so much fun, love and laughter - and that definitely makes up for the confusion, frustration and occasional exhaustion! lol.:p
BTW - the only reason this is so long is because I can't sleep. I find that all afternoon I'm really tired, and can't wait for bed, but as soon as it's bed time I'm wide awake, and can't sleep. Grrr...should use this time to do housework or something but can't really be bothered.
Hope you're all enjoying your beautiful babies!
Sarah: have been following you on FB, your lil Emma is gorgeous! wow congrats on still BF plus expressing! And solids too! ive tried rice cereal with jade but she just tries to push it out with her tongue so she musnt be ready
Thanks Tatt - I think little Jade is just adorable too! I show my DH and my mum all the new photos of her - they can't believe what a cutie she is with all that hair! :) Yeah, the BF is pretty full on sometimes. I've thought about supplementing with one bottle of formula, but my Mum says once you start doing that it can be hard to keep going. I'll just see how I go I guess. And when she's ready Jade will take to the food! And when she does, watch out! lol. Emma now likes to alternate sucking her hands with taking mouthfuls of food - so we get it EVERYWHERE! It doesn't matter how careful I am!
Emma we are in the same boat too with solids, plus when I had Jake the guidelines were all different so now fretting over starting what used to be early (but isnow acceptable) or waiting until 6 mths.
Sarah I've been following you on FB too! It's funny most of us keep up to date with what is going on with eachother via FB rather than here, and BB is just a top up lol.
Needles tmrw - hopefully no reaction!
Hey ladies - a bit of a selfish post coming up. I'm not quite sure where else to turn. DH told me last night that he's got to cancel our first family holiday (down to see HIS family in Melb) because he's got to do a course in Brisbane to qualify him to then go to Afghanistan. We were supposed to fly down together on Sunday night, but now he's flying out to Brisbane on Monday and I just don't know what to do. He says he'll likely be in Brisbane for 1 to 2 weeks, then soon after deploy to Afghan until March. MARCH! I know I'm an army wife, but we had discussed this after his last deployment, and we had decided he wouldn't go on any more deployments - which is why we decided to try for a baby. And now she's here, and he's going. WTF?!?!? Please don't post anything about this on FB - it's still a bit hush hush.
Aw Sarah, that must be tough :( Is there more to it, maybe he wasnt given much of a choice in the matter?
Have you seen the Defence partners thread on BB, I think there are a few people in there are a few in Townsville.
Thank Rayray - I'll look in to the thread. And he most certainly was given a choice. He's desperate to go. He knows that he's going to miss out on a lot in Emma's life, but for him this is what he trains for, and all his mates are already over there. And I can sort of understand that. And I would never force him not to go because then it would always be "my fault" he didn't go. I know that sounds silly. I'm trying to decide whether to still go to Melb - the whole point of the trip is so Emma can meet his Nannas (they're getting quite old and I don't want them to pass on before we get a chance to go) but his Mum is working the whole week, and his Dad works all weird hours from home, so I don't know what I'd do all day by myself with Emma. Plus, I'm TERRIFIED of driving in Melbourne, but even more terrified of being stuck at my in-laws house with no car. lol.
Where abouts in Melbourne are they, do you know which suburb?
Maybe you can meet up with some BB girls, we're pretty nice here in Melb ;)
Oh and here is the other thread
Hey Sarah, lots of us down here in Melb if you wanted to come anyway! There are tons of family friendly places down here, and I'd be more than happy to show you around some fun ones.
On the larger issue though - I don't know how military families manage, it must be so hard. I can see your dh's POV but it is dreadful to say goodbye when your littlie is just so little, and a few months is a huge deal at this age, isn't it?
Hi girls,
Well I have done it!!! I have organised Lily's Christening.....
She will be Christened on 29 Nov 09.
Pastor and Church organised, invitations sent and I ordered her dress yesterday, it is so beautiful and I booked the local pub to have lunch afterwards.
Now I am looking forward to it.
Hope all you girls and bubs are well.
xxx Sue xxx
Lovely, Sue!
Tom was baptised weekend before last - it was really lovely. We had a friend priest we've known for years come and do it so dh could just be "dad" for the day, and lots of the parish turned up as well. Tom wore the gown that my mum bought years ago for dd3 (my first two girls weren't baptised til they were quite grown) so that was really special, and I wore her wedding rings too. Tom is the only one of my children she never got to meet.
My MIL made the most beautiful Christening cake.
Here's a photo of my lovely family around the font: can't see much of Tom though!!
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Things are going really well here. Tom is on solid food, sort of. Some days he likes it other days he doesn't want it. He only has one meal a day, but it's great to have him eating up at the table with all of us! His sleep is just so much better. I am finally getting a good four or five straight hours sleep at night, and he's having good long day sleeps too. We basically concentrated really hard on making sure he settled in his own bed, and he's doing really well.
He's grabbing for everything now, people's faces especially! And he can sit up on his own for a few seconds now. He's charming the cotton socks off everyone and he is the most settled, happy baby I've ever had!
This is his latest favourite trick:
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TMTM - what a gorgeous photo of Tom's baptism. It sounds like a fabulous day and it was nice that your DH could be a dad for the baptism and not the priest......
I am not sure what happened to my Christening outfit. Maybe my mum borrowed it from my Aunty's or something.
Well I have started a new christening dress for the family now.....
Lily has also started solids. She is having 2 meals a day, one at lunch time of normally some pureed fruit or vegies and for dinner is normally another dose of fruit/vegies with rice cereal. We have tried carrot, pears, apple, potato and of course rice cereal.
Today we are trying pureed banana for the first time. So should be interesting. I also made a batch of pureed peas, but I will wait a couple of days before introducing them. I am reluctant to go to 3 meals at this stage as I still want my breastfeeding to be her main source of food.
Lily is also putting out her hand to grab things now, but she is lazy on the floor. I try and make her spend a lot of time on the floor, but she hardly moves now. We were going from rolling on her belly to her back and from her back to lifting up her legs to roll to the side, but she seems to have stopped this. I am trying to encourage it again.
Her favourite trick is to put her fingers in my mouth so I can suck them..... mmmm
But also she seems to be going through the "attachment" process and I can't leave her sight. Even in the house if I walk into the kitchen she is calling for me. It takes up so much time of the day!!!! Though I am loving it. She is such a good baby and I can't complain.
Lily is also getting close to wearing 0 clothes because of her length. She seems so tall. Must go and measure her.
Well wishing everyone a great day.
xxx Sue xxx
wow sue size 0! jade is still in 000 seperates and only just started wearing 00 jumpsuits!
also just from what ive read u shud only offer 1 meal a day until 6 months then introduce 2, otherwise they are having too much solids and will take less BM, atm u shud just be introducing tastes rather than volume IYKWIM?
I cant get multiquote to work :(:
It may be that she is concentrating on developing a new skill and thats why she doesnt seem to be practising the others so much now - shes mastered those and is focusing on something else.
I also have a velcro baby at the moment. He is OK in the mornings, but after about 1 o'clock, he has to be held pretty much constantly if he is awake, hatest he swing or the floor.
We are in size 0 for most things, except wondersuits which are in between - the 0s are too small, but the 1s are too big. The target/coles brand are a little better fit at the moment so he is in those at bedtime.
TMTM - Toms photos are gorgeous.
TM - solids - you will read different things in pretty much every book you find. Its so confusing. Stick to what is working for you as obviously its the right thing - its working
Tom is in 1s now! He's quite long.
*is annoyed that work blacks facebook and she can't see Janes little boys Baptism photos!*
:hello: to everyone :)
Hi all!
I have a bit of a chuckle when I read the sizes of your bubs - Sophia is 67cm long but only weighs 6.5kgs lol. Emma she is still wearing 000 shorts / pants as long as there are no feet and fits 0 rompers but they swim on her in width. Jake was a monster and was in 1's already so I am finding it quite nice to have a little bub for once!
We are doing better in the Jake sleep stakes with a tick chart and his reward is the latest "tinkerbell" dvd which is his fave at the moment. Sophia is still waking every night or so for a 3am feed, but has started yelling at my breasts now if my let down is too slow - makes me laugh feisty little miss. We are hanging off solids for now as she is still kicking along fine - will prob look at mid to late Oct to start, it just means I have to start expressing so I have ebm for the rice cereal and I STILL haven't started that yet. I started expressing w Jake at a few weeks and had a mountain if ebm in the freezer but this time I am being a bit lazy :redface:!
Has anyone heard how Sarah is and if she ended up going to Melbourne? She has been in my mind just wondering how she was going.
Last week was an interesting one for us ... I had a car accident on Thursday arvo when a ute ran into my bum when we were stopped at some lights (and he didn't) which ended up w me in hospital for a few hours that night. Then Saturday Jake started vomitting and we were warned to look out for it post accident in case of head trauma. But the main concern was that his food intake and fluids had been down for a few days and he was quite dehydrated so there was the concern we were heading for the metabolic acidosis which is what he was hospitalised for a week in Jan. SO he stayed in overnight with DH and I felt torn in two when I walked out of the hospital . I just wanted to stay and look after my baby but I had another one relying on me and couldn't do it :( BUT we are all home and he has bounced back but we are doing some further testing to see what causes him to rash so quickly.
Love looking at all of your photos on FB too!
Nelly: omg!! so glad u and jakey are ok! ive only had 1 crash and that was 2 days after i got my licence and hit a tree and totalled my car, it was soooo scary! about the EBM: im sort of glad i FF cause i can leave jade with family etc, but sort of wish i could just BF her once in a while lol :) but sort of nice to have my boobs to myself (and my new friend with benefits he he he)
and has anyone heard from Candice lately??
I thought you had something going on in the friends w benefits!
I actually saw Candice yesterday she came over for a mummy meetup w some other BB girls. She has been doing it tought w X feeding every 2-3hrs around the clock and not sleeping at all well. She tried offering water at night last week and it worked a treat, but has reverted again this week. She is tired but seems to be hanging in there. Am getting her out for a coffee next week too - I know how isolating it can be w a baby that doesn't sleep and constantly feeds.
Hi Emma,
Yes I have read quite a few book and definately they give you all different advice and I definately agree with the others to go by what your baby needs.
Lily is not fat, it is just her length which gets her into the 00 and 0 clothes (most of them are 00). BF is definately still her main food source and she only gets an ice cube of food at lunch time with a little rice cereal and the same for dinner and only after she has breast milk.
At dinner time she loves her food as I think my breastmilk runs a little low and it helps her to sleep longer during the night. We actually get to 3.30 am now (she goes to bed at 6.30 pm). I express at around 9.30 pm (to keep my supply up) and use it to mix her rice cereal.
Nelly so glad you are all OK. That is my greatest fear when driving that somebody will hit my from her side or from behind.....
TMTM - I wonder why a lot of our bubs are so long??? must be something for all our May babies
This is a picture of my little girl with the most gorgeous smile http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id=1255578224
I can't believe she is 5 months already...
xxx Sue xxx
HI Girls,
Wow everyones babies sound like they are doing fabulously. Isn't it funny how they call all be so different in size. So far Jack is on par with my eldest son Oscar, at 4 months they both weighed around 6.5kgs, Lewis my second son at 4 months weighed 8.2kgs, and they have all been breastfed.
I too have started Jack on solids, he has been eating for about 2 weeks now, I started off with once a day but he is now having 3 meals a day (small meals) he too loves the Rafferty brand, especially the apple and pear with cinnamon.
He isn't rolling at all yet, I'm starting to worry a bit, but I think his problem is his 2 brothers which are constantly amusing him, he doesn't need to roll cos he's not trying to get anywhere.
His latest trick is sticking out his tongue he thinks its a great joke, and has even discovered the art of blowing rasberries.
Sleep, well my great little sleeper is no longer, he is waking consistently at least once a night. Not sure why he has gone from sleeping from 8pm to 7am but I just give him a feed and he settles again straight away.
Sorry about the long post.
Megs
megs - Milo didnt roll til 5 and a half months. they are all different. he dint sit til 9 months, crawled at 11, and walked at 13months
Oscar is rolling both ways now, and wants to be held sitting all the time.
I guess theya re all different but I do know how easy it is to compare, i find myself doing it all the time!
Hi Girls,
I am hoping for a little bit of advice, Jack is constipated, I have tried to make sure that he is having pears, etc to try and prevent this but it doesn't seem to have worked, he is really having trouble and is in a bit of pain when he is having a bowel motion.
At the moment his diet is,
Breakfast - Tablespoon rice cereal mixed with pears, apple mango, some type of fruit puree.
Lunch - is his vegies, so far its pumpkin, carrot, potatoe and zucchine puree
Tea - Is generally straight fruit, I don't give him straight apples it is always mixed with something.
Is there anything else I should be giving him, not letting him eat ect.
I have never had this problem with the other boys so am a bit lost on what is best to do.
megs when we started Jake on solids I found some diluted prune juice worked a treat. Have also heard, but never tried, a teaspoon of brown sugar in their bottle or in some warm water if BF.
TMI!!
What are his poos like when he does go - are they definitely hard/pellet or ribbony? He could be having trouble and not be constipated.
THere is a kids prune juice that is diluted to a safe amount for kids, I used to give that to Milo in a bottle, but he would have been 9 months, not sure if you can use it for younger kids?
What goes your MCHN or GP say?
Thanks Nelly and Ray Ray.
To answer your question, they aren't hard, still quite pastey, probably more ribbony, but not much is coming out.
I'm still breastfeeding, have been offering cooled water at each meal time, he only drinks a tiny bit though spits the rest out.
Might give the diluted prune juice a go.
GP haven't seen, is too hard to get into would probably have to wait 4 weeks to see. I haven't mentioned to MCHN, don't see her aging til his 8 month check.
I might give the maternal health line a call, must be honest though I am trying to avoid getting a lecture about starting him on solids before he is 6 months.
megs - the RCH murdoch institute says solids form 4 months so tell them to go jump :p
I would go see someone as usuallly to be constipation the stools hae to be hard, so it could be a food intolerance, or something like that?
Thanks again Ray Ray.
I think I will have to see someone, he is in obvious discomfort the poor litte man.
How are your 2 men going?
we are all good here.
Milo is having heaps of tantrums and being very naughty!
Oscar has 2 teeth and looks like he is about to get at least one more. Hes also biting me at feeds, not fun.
HE seems to be noticing food a lot more, paying atention IYKWIM?
At this stage I will peobabaly look at startng him on solids in November, but we'll see how we go.
HE loves sitting in the high chair at meal time with us though!
I hear you on the tantrums, Lewis who is 3 next month is pretty good at them at home, luckily haven't had any in public yet. I'm currently trying to toilet train him, but unlike Oscar who was really easy and wanted to wear jocks Lewis couldn't care less. Thank goodness the weather is warming up.
Teeth, No 3, wow, does he cut them without too much drama?