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thread: African mothers see baby strollers as abhorrent fad

  1. #19
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    Jun 2010
    Tiny Town
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    I loved my pram when I wasn't working. I could go for an hour long walk (for fitness) pushing the pram, and I don't know if I'd have been as comfy walking that fast for that long with DD in a sling or wrap. She also slept in it as it has a basinette attachment - she was constantly with me, whichever room I was in.

    I did buy a sling, but it wasn't the right one for us. It's a peanut shell sling, and just didn't fit right for either of us for a while so I wasn't convinced a sling was that great. We do use it now that I can hip carry her in it - use it more than the pram, but I think I need to find something more suitable, like a wrap or different kind of sling that can handle a 9.4kg baby.

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  2. #20
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    Apr 2009
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    I've had back surgery. There is no way I would be baby wearing past the 15kg mark. But we're holding off getting another pram for #2 because we loved baby wearing DS until he got too heavy

  3. #21
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    Jan 2006
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    well, 15kg is pretty hefty My DS doesn't even weigh that. Still, at around 14kg he is practically weightless in my beetlebums. There are sooooo many options out there. The hard part is just finding the one that's perfect for you. Those with back problems probably would need to be a little pickier about what they choose, but I think many can still find something comfortable.

    Kaytee, I'm certain you can find something that would suit

  4. #22
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    Kaytee, I'm certain you can find something that would suit
    I think I might just go pick the brains of the ladies in the baby wearing thread for recommendations and dig up some money for something decent

    WRT the article, I agree with pps that the last paragraph is fab. I love that natural, instinctual parenting is the norm, whereas in western culture it's "alternative" and "whacky".

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  5. #23
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    Jan 2006
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    I love wearing my DS - haven't done for a few months, but the option is still there. I do carry him without the babycarrier still, although less often now as he is 5 so can walk for himself.

    The pushchair was great when I'm in pain and can't carry DS, also fantastic for shopping. You stack that thing right, you can get all the Christmas shopping in there plus some alcohol and have the child in the carrier.

    My favourite carrier memory was that we lived in a very snobby village when Liebling was younger. One of our neighbours uncurled her lip just enough to ask "do you even HAVE a pushchair?" - as I was clearly a dreadful mother for walking around giggling with her son instead of being able to ignore him.

  6. #24
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    I wear my baby strapped to me in a wrap or sling (practically weightless) and if I need to I put my shopping in a trolley. And I don't carry around a nappy bag - it stays in the car. Bbs are portable!
    Have you replaced nappy changes with EC-ing Jennifer13?

  7. #25
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    Jul 2005
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    Nooooo... It's just easier to change her before we leave and then go back to the car to retrieve the bag the very occasional time I get caught out, than to lug it around!

  8. #26
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    May 2005
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    I cheat and roll up my beco and tuck it into the basket on the pram. So when DS gets sick of being in the pram and grizzles, I pop him into the beco and off we go. Or if I've bought a lot of stuff and am running out of carrying capacity I have been known to do the same thing
    This is what I do alot of the time too. I always keep two or three carriers in the pram and will alternate between the pram and carrying. I love my pram as muchh as I love my carriers in truth. I couldn't function without both the pram and the carriers; often I will have two kids loaded in the P&T's and one in a carrier, Or sometimes even two in carriers and the pram loaded with shopping. It is a very rare occaision when I don't have the pram AND at least one carrier of some type.

    Also I think this article is talking more about the introduction of prams into a society that has previously had no use for them, NOT nessecarily about western society. Anyone who has travelled abroad will find alot of differences in simple terms of terrain, between western societies and other societies. Personally, I wouldn't even attempt to use a pram in a place like Thailand, India or Africa - there are too many situation where they are just more of a hindrance then a help. In western societies though, there are always elevators, ramps, and even footings to use.

    I do think the different cultural perspectives do raise quite a few good points that us westerner perhaps don't think to consider sometimes. Babywearing IS the traditional method used by humans to care for our young, and sometimes we forget the benefits of it, and the drawbacks of what we do currently consider 'normal'.


    Both babywearing and prams have their pro's and con's; but the great thing about Australia, is that you don't have to choose between them, you can choose BOTH.

  9. #27
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    well, 15kg is pretty hefty My DS doesn't even weigh that. Still, at around 14kg he is practically weightless in my beetlebums. There are sooooo many options out there. The hard part is just finding the one that's perfect for you. Those with back problems probably would need to be a little pickier about what they choose, but I think many can still find something comfortable.

    Kaytee, I'm certain you can find something that would suit
    The hard part can sometimes be limiting yourself to only one carrier! Because so many different types and good for so many different situations and different children. (at least that's how I justify it to my DH).

  10. #28
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    The hard part can sometimes be limiting yourself to only one carrier! Because so many different types and good for so many different situations and different children. (at least that's how I justify it to my DH).
    er. cough.
    I've started telling DH they're all loaners....

  11. #29
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    Aug 2008
    Ouiinslano
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    er. cough.
    I've started telling DH they're all loaners....
    SO glad someone else does that! Mine are usually "on loan with view to buy" though, so I rave about it enough and then "buy" it

  12. #30
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    Nov 2010
    Perth, WA
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    er. cough.
    I've started telling DH they're all loaners....
    I might have to start pinching that excuse...I only have 4 thus far, but DH is giving me the eye-rolling "another one?" already. Even though I've leant one of them to a friend now...

  13. #31
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    Jan 2006
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    They give up after a while CK

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