Another "is this normal" thread. Speech this time.

[Calluna]

Is it normal for a just turned 3 year old to not be able (or willing?) to say two consonants (sp?) still?

DS still says "sake" instead of snake, "pease" instead of please, "tuck" instead of truck, "tank" instead of thank. You get the picture?
Pretty well every combination you can think of, he won't/can't say.
He's fine with long words - my mum is amazed he can say "dangerous", but anything with a combo he can't pronounce properly.

He has just, in the last few months, started building his own 5-6 word sentences (rather than just copying ones we've taught him).
Is this on par with his ability to produce trickier sounds?

I've tried to encourage him to put them together by sounding them out but he's not interested.

[Butterfly Dawn]

Our 4yr old still has things he can't say. Ls -like please are missing. We have astanaught not astronaut. Not too worried yet though. We try make him practice sounds once a week- don't wanna make him too conscious of it

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[Trillian]

I think all that falls within the 'age appropriate' category and he will start to develop it over time. Like you said, he is only just three, so it would be expected that he won't have perfect speech yet. But just make sure you don't fall into the trap of saying it the way he does. If he says 'tuck' for truck, then make sure you repeat by saying 'truck' so he gets used to hearing how it is meant to be said kwim? Look on the bright side though. at least he says 'tuck' - mine all said it with an 'f' sound

[Butterfly Dawn]

Love it when 1kid comes running " mummy mummy ... Said F..k and i told him we not aloud to say f..k cause f..ks a naughty word, right mummy"

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[Gigi]

I think all that falls within the 'age appropriate' category and he will start to develop it over time. Like you said, he is only just three, so it would be expected that he won't have perfect speech yet. But just make sure you don't fall into the trap of saying it the way he does. If he says 'tuck' for truck, then make sure you repeat by saying 'truck' so he gets used to hearing how it is meant to be said kwim? Look on the bright side though. at least he says 'tuck' - mine all said it with an 'f' sound

1. agree (my DD went thru a few years of speech therapy)
2. LOL Trillian! (last sentence)

[Calluna]

Ok cool, thanks, just wanted to check.
I'm really big on no baby talk (from adults to DS) so we always use the correct pronunciation.
You would think after caring for 3 year olds for a few years I'd remember but somehow all the knowledge seems to have vanished!

And yep Trillian lol! My exs niece used to announce everytime a fire f*ck went past lol

[onthefly]

yep.
my son did fruck! (couldnt' do tr somehow?)

[sloane]

Sounds normal to me too - DS says nanks for thanks & instead of a t or d will often say an l instead like everyboly or beller.

He can say triceratops & stegasauraus (sp?) without any problem though

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[YoYo]

Ive got a great bit of info from a speechy here after I took DS. I'll dig it up and post soon.

I currently have DD asleep on my arm!

[Calluna]

That'd be great Yules. Thanks

[YoYo]

Ok.... So my DS - 5 in October has trouble changes sounds like this. I've copies this from the speachies list of observations.

K to t - eg book to boot
G as d - ef girl as dirl
Sh as s - eg fish is fis
Ch as t - eg chair is tair
J as d - eg jumper is dumper
R as w - eg red is wed
Th as f - eg feather as feafer

K and g can develop up to 4 years of age. DS has JUST started doing it correctly.... Right after the appt!

The sounds 'sh', 'ch' and 'j' typically develop up to 6 years of age. The sounds 'r' and 'w' can develop up to 7 years of age, so for DS he was fairly typical, even though I was worried!

I'll bbl with more!

[Calluna]

Great, thank you!!

(Thanks to whoever fixed my typo in the title too, it was driving me mad! LOL)

[Sagres]

DD1 did this for awhile (at a younger age though) but the funniest thing was when she learnt to put them together she totally over emphasised it, so clock went from......well clock without the L.......to cu-lock, and blocks went from bocks to bul-locks which sounded like she was saying bollocks You have this to look forward to!

[Calluna]

oh yes we have c-ocks LOL
LOL cant wait...

[~clover~]

DS is 4. He can say the 'k/c' sound at the end of a word, but not at the start. So can say walk, but not cat (tat). I remember DD1 being in kindy before she picked it up.

He still says tuck instead of truck, but he's lately gotten very particular with his speech & sentences. Some of the words he comes out with that are used in the correct context blow my mind! When kicking the football he tells me to go farther, rather than further, or back. Makes me

[Calluna]

Hehe that's really cute Clover!

[YoYo]

Ok found the other bit of paper I was looking for!

Development of speech sounds


Most vowels, p b t d m n w - 50% of 1.5 to 2 year olds can pronounce , and 90% of 3 year olds

K g ng f s h y - 50% of 2.5 to 3 year olds can pronounce , and 90% of 4 year olds

L - 50% of 3 to 3.5 year olds can pronounce, 90% of 6 year olds

V z sh ch dg - 50% of 3.5 to 4.5 year olds can pronounce, 90% of 6 year olds

Th the zh r - 50% of 4.5 to 5 year olds can pronounce, 90% of 7 year olds

Clusters

Beginning of word: bl cl fl br cr dr gr and end of word kl ls ms ps - 50% of 4 to 4.5 year olds can pronounce, 90% of 6 year olds

Sp sm st sl sw - 50% of 4 to 4.5 year olds can pronounce, 90% of 7 year olds

Str skr spl thr shr - 50% >5 year olds can pronounce, 90% of 7-8 year olds

Hope that makes sense. You can see how normal it is to have only completely developed speech sounds up to about age 8! I sure felt better after reading this table.

[Calluna]

That is exactly the info I was looking for Yules, Thank you so much! He seems to be doing quite well according to that!