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  1. #1

    Mar 2004
    Sparta
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    Question Do Parents Matter

    I was just re-reading my copy of Freakanomics last night and I wondered what the rest of BB would make of the 2 chapters on parenting.

    I can't post the entire 2 chapters but I did find the article that was the basis of the first chapter.

    Do you agree, disagree?
    The conclusions in this article are derived entirely from number crunching.

    Do parents matter?
    By Stephen J. Dubner and Steven D. Levitt

    By now, the letters have landed.

    The fast-track nursery schools and the "gifted and talented" public schools and the Ivy League colleges have mailed their acceptance letters, and parents everywhere are either a) congratulating themselves for having shepherded their children into the dream school or b) chiding themselves for having failed.

    In the first case, the parents may tell themselves: It was those Mozart quartets we played in utero that primed her for success. In the second case, they might say: I knew we shouldn't have waited so long to get him his first computer. But how much credit, or blame, should parents really claim for their children's accomplishments? The answer, it turns out, is a lot - but not for the reasons that most parents think.

    The U.S. Department of Education recently undertook a monumental project called the Early Childhood Longitudinal Study, which tracks the progress of more than 20,000 American schoolchildren from kindergarten through the fifth grade. Aside from gathering each child's test scores and the standard demographic information, the ECLS also asks the children's parents a wide range of questions about the families' habits and activities. The result is an extraordinarily rich set of data that, when given a rigorous economic analysis, tells some compelling stories about parenting technique.

    A child with at least 50 kids' books in his home, for instance, scores roughly 5 percentile points higher than a child with no books, and a child with 100 books scores another 5 percentile points higher than a child with 50 books. Most people would look at this correlation and draw the obvious cause-and-effect conclusion: A little boy named, say, Brandon has a lot of books in his home; Brandon does beautifully on his reading test; this must be because Brandon's parents read to him regularly.

    But the ECLS data show no correlation between a child's test scores and how often his parents read to him. How can this be? Here is a sampling of other parental factors that matter and don't:

    Matters: The child has highly educated parents.

    Doesn't: The child regularly watches TV at home.

    Matters: The child's parents have high income.

    Doesn't: The child's mother didn't work between birth and kindergarten.

    Matters: The child's parents speak English in the home.

    Doesn't: The child's parents regularly take him to museums.

    Matters: The child's mother was 30 or older at time of the child's birth.

    Doesn't: The child attended Head Start.

    Matters: The child's parents are involved in the PTA.

    Doesn't: The child is regularly spanked at home.

    Culture cramming may be a foundational belief of modern parenting but, according to the data, it doesn't improve early childhood test scores. Frequent museum visits would seem to be no more productive than trips to the grocery store. Watching TV, meanwhile, doesn't turn a child's brain into mush after all; nor does the presence of a home computer turn a child into Einstein.

    Now, back to the original riddle: How can it be that a child with a lot of books in her home does well at school even if she never reads them? Because parents who buy a lot of children's books tend to be smart and well-educated to begin with ? and they pass on their smarts and work ethic to their kids. (This theory is supported by the fact that the number of books in a home is just as strongly correlated with math scores as reading scores.) Or the books may suggest that these are parents who care a great deal about education and about their children in general, which results in an environment that rewards learning. Such parents may believe that a book is a talisman that leads to unfettered intelligence. But they are probably wrong. A book is, in fact, less a cause of intelligence than an indicator.

    The most interesting conclusion here is one that many modern parents may find disturbing: Parenting technique is highly overrated. When it comes to early test scores, it's not so much what you do as a parent, it's who you are.

    It is obvious that children of successful, well-educated parents have a built-in advantage over the children of struggling, poorly educated parents. Call it a privilege gap. The child of a young, single mother with limited education and income will typically test about 25 percentile points lower than the child of two married, high-earning parents.

    So it isn't that parents don't matter. Clearly, they matter an awful lot. It's just that by the time most parents pick up a book on parenting technique, it's too late. Many of the things that matter most were decided long ago; what kind of education a parent got, how hard he worked to build a career, what kind of spouse he wound up with and how long they waited to have children.

    The privilege gap is far more real than the fear that haunts so many modern parents - that their children will fail miserably without regular helpings of culture cramming and competitive parenting. So, yes, parents are entitled to congratulate themselves this month over their children's acceptance letters. But they should also stop kidding themselves: The Mozart tapes had nothing to do with it.

    Stephen J. Dubner and Steven D. Levitt are the authors ofFreakonomics: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything.
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    ETA - Found the first page of the parenting chapter http://www.freakonomicsbook.com/thebook/ch5.html

  2. #2

    Nov 2007
    Earth
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    Interesting article! Not sure if I agree with it though - I have 3 sisters, only four years between myself (oldest) and my youngest sister. We were all raised in the same home, we were all disciplined with smacking, pretty much the same everything. However, my second sister and I scored considerably better test results all the way through school, and we are more socially capable than the other girls (even they say this!).

    I agree that environment will have an effect on a childs intelligence and maturity, but I think more has to do with the childs personality than anything - my youngest sister always blamed everyone else when she was a kid, and still does it at 19. So I think that, unless in the case of drastic environments, a childs personality is the biggest factor in how they do in life.

    Does that make sense?

  3. #3
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    Jan 2006
    Brisbane, Australia
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    Wow, makes you think doesn't it?

    However I agree with SG with that there are other factors they are not taking into account or dismissing without really considering them properly. For example I think a big reason why children of highly educated parents do better at school is because the parents value education and encourage their children to apply themselves and work hard. I have friends who work with children from a low socio-economic background and they say one of the biggest hurdles they face is convincing the children that their parents are wrong about the value of schooling. These children are constantly told that they are no good, that they'll never amount to anything or that they'll end up on the dole or in low-paid unskilled jobs anyway so what's the point of trying to do well in school.

    But I do agree that trying to turn your baby into a Baby Einstein is probably not going to make a huge difference in the long term.

  4. #4
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    Jan 2009
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    i think its a great article..thanks dach
    might make me loosen up on the TV side of things

    my parents are middle class and that is about where i see us atm. but since being with my DH i have learned to value education SOOO much more. our children have always had lots of books as we both love reading so want to pass that on to our children. i am going back to school so my children will see that its ok at any time in life to change direction and to work for it. you dont always have to stay in the one career for ever.
    does that make me more inteligent?(not if you go by my spelling hehehe)
    will it make my children more inteligent?
    i dont know im just doing what i can to improve our lives.
    We all know Information is the key so if we are learning new parenting techniques or learning to do something with our kids together as long as we are getting new information all the time and learning from it

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    Feb 2007
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    I agree that these things probably do affect your IQ. I just don't agree with the opinion that IQ equals smarter or that there is only one type of 'smart'. There are many types of 'smart' and as parents we need to give our child the kind of environment that helps them to also develop in other ways. In particular we need to make sure they are emotionally secure. Key personality traits such as resilience, empathy, confidence, problem solving (etc etc) are also vital to a child development and who they are as an adult. JMO