Oh and, Trish, on the VBAC thing, that's what they did to my friend. She was put on high risk for her 2nd baby and had to be strapped to the bed most of the time. She reckons that because of all the fuss, she was terrified to push and feels like she "put off" her labour and caused it to go longer because of the stress. With her 3rd (and not being on high risk anymore) she said it was a breeze compared to the 2nd one because she knew what to expect.