So we're on the boob but...

[Sterla]

:yeahthat:

And I remember those cluster feeds all too well. Ah well, you can try and get lots of reading/tv watching done

[~Raven~]

6 - 8 wet nappies over 24 hours is ideal Mel. I don't think it matters how they are presented, just that they happen

It's up to you if you want to wake her. Personally I woke them after 3 hours sleep during the day. For both boobular relief and trying to prevent them from being too wakeful overnight. If you'd rather not then that's fine too. See how you go

ETA looky at all these replies lol

[~clover~]

Can I take it the pain is getting better? You haven't mentioned it, so I'm hoping. Obviously the attachment & feeding are

[Jennifer13]

Mel, you're doing a great job persisting. I think putting away the pump and trying with bb feeds alone for a few days is definitely a good idea.

How does she bf lying down? I don't know if you've mentioned it or not, but sometimes lying down can help on the side they don't 'like' as much. It could be less comfortable for her or you for any number of reasons, but if it's something physical (from birth, for eg), lying down might take that away.

I'd echo the other girls in having a LC come to you and sit through a feed or two. Get her to show you some different holds/positions, because you may just have to find the one that works best for you.

FWIW my DD never had much of a thing for my left bb, so I'd bf her twice on that side, once in cradle hold, then switch her to football hold to trick her into continuing. I suspect my let-down was a lot slower, she bf less on that side, so the supply was diminished. I never worried beyond that, the other side will provide enough milk for it not to be an issue. After all, mums manage to bf twins, so they must be producing twice as much as those of us with one bub! Get the LC to look into it and she might be able to help solve the issue. You'll probably find when she goes through a period of increased bfing (6 weeks of age for my DD) it's handy to have both sides available at their best!

Let us know how you're doing, hun, I think you're a STAR!

[Arimeh]

Hey guys

I think I'm doing ok - still in pain, but once she lets off the sucking it doesn't hurt, so its just the initial panic to feed haha. She seems to cluster feed in the mornings, then have a huge sleep, then cluster feed in the late arvo till about 9.30 - then she will sleep till 3am, feed on both sides, then wakes around 7. So its not too bad. Seeing middie this arvo so will get referral to LC.

I was so crappy at one of my facebook friends yesterday (if anyone saw her comment on my status) about being able to express 110 ml in a few minutes. I'd like to give her the big F. YOU buddy - but can't say anything cos she's my ex-boyfriends wife (and him and I are still really good friends)

Why do women feel the need to rub it in that they are better by expressing more? Tell ya what she can stick the pump fair up her arse for all I care.

Pfft. Well thats my vent.

[Inanna]

Awww cuddles Mel... What she is doing is sounding good to me too... And pretty average for a new born. Especially the feeding through the afternoon & early evening.
I am glad you're seeing the m/w & can talk to a LC... I think that will be helpful. Sometimes it's just one little tweak of a hold & voila!

You have had an amazing journey in growing, birthing & now nurturing Eden - she is a little healing star sent for her Mama. I am so in awe of all you have done & are doing...

[Pretty Butterfly]

Oh babe... how damn crappy of her!!!!

I dont think i've ever done that, unless asked about it. It is a VERY personal, and emotive issue, and how well she does is completly irrelevent to you.... silly cow.

Anyway, YOU dont need to pump, your doing it all yourself anyway!!!!


eta.. actually, I just went and edited a post... I did refer to how much I could get with the double pump when i offered it to you babe... I am so so sory and hope it didn't come across as boasting or hurtful.....

[briggsy's girl]

that's pretty damn crummy mel! i WISH i could express 110ml even now! most of the time i get to about 50ml from both sides in about 20 minutes - so i'm not a very efficient pumper - but i know DD gets a hell of a lot more cos i end up wearing about that much each feed lol

you're doing fantastic to persist - so damn happy that you're able to do this! you may find that your nipples are a little damanged from the early attachment issues and that is why it's still hurting too - hope it improves soon (i went through a week of tears after hospital due to nipple damage from the pump - once it healed ok, i've not felt any pain until DD started clamping down while teething...)

hope you can get to see LC soon just to try to get you past this pain hurdle

[~clover~]

I saw that! Figured she must be a miracle worker!
I did that once...ONCE! DS was about 15 months old, DD2 was in hospital & he stayed with mum for the night. I was sooo full. Still took me a while though. A good hour or so.
Never EVER in my days of expressing have I gotten more than 20 mls in any amount of time! Thats why I don't do it unless I'm desperate!

It does sound like things are going alot smoother for you though. You seem alot less stressed & more comfortable with the whole thing iykwim.

[Arimeh]

eta.. actually, I just went and edited a post... I did refer to how much I could get with the double pump when i offered it to you babe... I am so so sory and hope it didn't come across as boasting or hurtful.....

Nah mate, I didn't take it that way. She's just peeved at me cos her DH still loves me

hahahaha

[Lulu]

Oh I saw that too and felt like flicking her earlobe.

I found expressing a little hard (had to do a jig, sit in a room with NO noise and wear orange undies) nad I think you are doing a TERRIFIC job.

[thepixie]

Just popping in to some more!
Mel you are doing an amazing job!!! so stoked for you. From memory I had pain at the beginning of feeds for the first couple of weeks... It all sounds like a perfectly normal BF bub & mummy!

[Jas]

You are doing so great! Amazing how fast things aer getting better and better, it sounds like the pain you are gettting is the same I got early on just that really excruciating pain for the first 30secs approx and then its fine, not sure what it is but if it is the same mine did go away, not sure how long it took...a few weeks?

[Jennifer13]

GL with the MW this arvo and I hope you see a good LC. Even if it seems like things are settling in, I'd still go and see the LC, just to iron out those last things to ensure your bfing continues to go well.

And to your friend - your BABY is getting out exactly what she needs and the pump is away in a dark cupboard, bfing champion right here!