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Hey everyone! I am soooooo hoping you can help me.... This is the first full year that I have been on any sort of Centrelink benefit. I have a 14 month old son. I am worried that I have UNDERestimated :redface: Oh it's HORRIBLE!! When we got DP group certificate it was just over 2 grand higher than our estimate with Centrelink! My estimate however was 4 grand under. HOWEVER - With DP deductions it brought his taxable income to 1 grand under what we estimated. My question is - do Centrelink only get the figure after deductions are taken off? Because if that is the case I am hoping that I dont have a debt and get the $600 & $300 odd per child/family (Only heard about that payment 1 month ago). What do you think? Am I likely to have a debt? I hope I am making sense. I am so confused myself! :wall: I just have no idea how this all works! We have both lodged our tax return and I called Centrelink and told them so they would balance the accounts.
So do you think I will have a debt and not get the $600 odd bonus??
I guess it is just a waiting game now! And I am not good at waiting games! LOL
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Mandiii, sound like you have over-estimated.
Taxable income is after deductions, so if yours is $4k under your estimate and you DHs is $1k under estimate, your combined family income is then $5k under estimate meaning you should have no ftb a debt. If you recieve ftb b, with both being under estimate means you should have no ftb b debt either.
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thank you to the very kind and patient belly belly members who tirelessly answer all these questions.
big organisations ARE confusing, if you don't work within them.
i know everytime i try to ring Family Assistance Office or Centrelink, the SECOND i am no longer on hold, my toddler gets loud, wants my attention badly, no matter how many activities i have set up for her etc. it's so hard to think straight when she wants me and NOTHING ELSE, right at the crucial moment, i get to speak to a helpful human being at the end of the phone.
so belly belly Centrelink/FAO experts, thank you so much for what you do.
mwah!:dance:
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Gigi - one thing i do as a consultant is always take into account that FAO is for FAMILY assistance and most customers will have a baby/toddler/child in the background. it's part of the mindset i have - i make sure they put their child first cos it's easier to wait a minute while they get a drink/biscuit/put on ABCkids for them, than to expect the parent to go through it all again in 10 minutes. i know most of the people i work with are much the same. kids can't simply be expected to shush cos mum's on the phone! i do suggest to new mummy's to make sure they have back up or baby is freshly fed and sleeping before they do their first contact as they are a loooong call.
i love that this thread has so much info in it - if it helps even a couple of parents know what is going on without having to sit on hold for ages, it's a huge thing!
mandiii - as Inertia mentioned, FTB is only based on your actual TAXABLE income (so after deductions) - unless you have a net rental property loss (which complicates everything lol). if you've managed to get your partners income under your estimate you should be fine, and may even get a top up as well as your supplements, depending on what your income estimate was. i would suggest though - have a good look at this years income estimate - if you were close last year, it might be worth bumping them up a little this year to make sure you don't get over paid this year
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So...(I get confused about this EVERY year :p) do I need to call the FAO AND the ATO, or only the FAO?
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to advise you dont need to do a tax return??
if you are registered for online services for fao you can do it online. i believ you need to call ato. you DO need to notify both seperately though
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Thanks Beeg. I called FAO, and advised of non lodgement there, and I called ATO and they said I need to fill out a form. I found it here.
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i notified the FAO of me not needing to lodge a tax return, but it never occurred to me to contact the Tax Office. Does something bad happen if you don't?
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you need to notify ato of any year that you don't need to lodge a tax return - otherwise their system is always waiting to find out what is happening, and after a period of time you may start being chased for information. its' pretty straight forward to do. it just finalises all tax related info for the year - i guess the way they see it is that they can't officially finalise your partners details til they have yours (due to medicare levy and things like that)
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I went with my DH to do our Tax and they advised me that I did not need to do mine, took my forms (centrelink and veteran affairs group certificates) and they also listed my income on DH's return.
Do I still need to call the FAO to advise them that I do not need to lodge or would it be all under control as the ATO have the information recorded?
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Still phone Centrelink so they can update your file as a non-lodger. That way when Centrelink receives the data fron ATO, any FTB/supplements that you're owed can be paid.
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Does anyone know if this payment is sometimes paid throughout the year in little bits included in ur usual payment. I have only just seen this and never actually advised centrelink that i didnt need to do a tax return, so I just did this online but I think i may have been asked if i wanted to get htis throughout the year so not sure if i'm eligible?
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the supplement is only ever paid at the end of the financial year. it's a portion of your FTB that is held over as a safety net in case you underestimate your income and have to pay money back. the average overpayment was worked out to be approx $600 per child a few years ago, so that's how they came up with that figure. there is no way to have it paid in increments throguh the year though.
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Hi All,
I'm pretty sure the answer is in one of these replies, but we just got our tax return. For the $600 child rebate, is this automatically paid or do I have to apply for it and what is the max family income that they will pay to?
I do not receive and family tax allowance.
Thanks in advance!
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i you dont receive pymts contact FAO 136150 to see if you're active or need to do a lump sum claim
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THanks Briggsy's
Rang just then. Damn I hate the voice recognition crap!!!
thanks once again!
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hi guys just a question, i did my tax return and got my tax refund back but havent receieved the $600 for my daughter as yet, just wondering if anyone knows why.
als
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has your partner done his tax? information has to be received from both partners, not just one
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Hi there, I am looking for info for my daughter. She is 18 and has a son turning 1 tomororw. Both her and her fiance did their tax returns and got back their tax refunds but Tash is yet to recieve her $600. Is she eligible? Does she have to apply for it seperately?
She checked her centrelink info online today and is getting a refund of just over $1000 but none of the things listed for payment was the $600. It was backdated rent assisstance and FTB A and B but each thing listed was under $300 and not the $600.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Judy
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I always find it best to contact family assistance and let them know that you have had your tax completed so they can do the cross-matching otherwise it just seems to get held up longer as they have to wait till the ATO sends them the information I think.
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the backdated payments are the reconcilliatin amounts. your dd wont get the full 600 as her child wasnt born until after july 1 - she will get a pro rata amount