Thanks Trill, I thought it would be something like that - I think I was in grade 6 or so when I started my orthodontic journey so I would have been about 10 or 11 :/ It was so horrible, I was hoping DD1 could get *some* help with her little mouth before she's old enough to really have it stick with her for life! But then again, at this age it would be pretty hard to get her to wear a retainer/plate every day (I even had one that I had to turn screws in every week to stretch my jaw out, pretty tricky stuff at that age!) I just want to fix it now before it gets worse, poor bub! I was just looking at photos of myself just before I got my plates and my mouth looked SO horrible