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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Aug 2006
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    Unhappy Losec suspension ineffective?

    Hi,

    I am still trying to work out how to help my LO. I'm becoming more and more tired with each night and it seems to be getting worse rather than getting better.

    We switched to suspension 2 weeks ago and while her days have improved the nights are off the charts. Last night she was awake from 11pm (Hubbie got her up for a dream feed) and she didn't go back to sleep until 3:30-4am. She thought it was play time. Thenn she woke up at 5:15am, feed and then didn't go back to sleep until 6:30am then she woke at 8am.

    She is on Zantac at Midday 1.2 ml and 5 mg losec at 11am and 5 mg losec at 11pm. I'm sad and feeling useless that I don't know how to fix this. I get frustrated at her but of course I know its not her fault. It's been 3.5 months now and I can't see it improving anytime soon.

    Sorry to be a downer but I'm just not having a good week

  2. #2
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    Apr 2006
    Perth
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    Hugs Jan.

    When you say she was awake from 11pm until 4am was that just awake, or was it awake and distressed? If its awake, maybe she's just going through one of those awful stages where sleep seems far less of a necessity as it is to us. If she's distressed, maybe you need to go back to your paed - after 2 weeks I would have thought the losec would be starting to help, although its really good news that she is improving during the day.

    DD2 wouldn't sleep at night at all (or any other time the little monster), unless she was lying on me. I could sometimes manage to get her to sleep on me in bed and then gradually roll her off onto the mattress next to me so that I had an ability to move. There were also many nights where DH got up to find me giving DD2 a bath at 2am - sometimes a deep bath where she could float was enough of a relaxation for her that she could settle down a little and then sometimes feed to sleep afterwards.

    You're not useless. Its bloody hard work when you have a little one with reflux and/or sleeping issues (the two seem to go together in my experience). Sounds to me like you need a good sleep yourself. Only a temporary fix, but maybe this weekend your DH can look after the kids while you try and catch up on some sleep. Hugs again lovely. I hope she turns a corner for you soon - for both your sakes.

  3. #3

    Oct 2008
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    I found the losec suspension to be completely ineffective for us. Our paed gave us losec tablets which we dissolved in a tiny bit of water on a teaspoon and gave to her that way. Worked within a few days.


  4. #4
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    Aug 2006
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    Thanks Lulu. Now I'm crying! She is still crying and screaming when I feed her and most feeds only takes 70-90mls. I don't think that it is enough.

    Last night you are right, she wasn't distressed. Just wouldn't sleep. I keep thinking that because of her reflux, she doesn't have enough milk then it affects her sleeping at night. It is the not knowing when she will improve that gets me. Though I know many of us mummies are in the same boat.

    Sorry to hear DD2 was a non-sleeper. That sounded really tough. When did it improve? I have thought about bringing her in bed with me but then worry I am creating bad habits. Though at this point I think I need to do anything just to get some sleep.

    Thanks so much for your post. I'm trying not to beat myself up about it but it is so hard not to. I hope you are feeling well with this pregnancy? You are amazing to have that experience with DD2 then give it another go. I don't think I could lol xoxox

  5. #5
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    Aug 2006
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    MummaSue, we used to use the losec tablets and used to ground them up on advice from our old pead. But we were told by the tresillian nurse who was here the other day that that wasn't how to do it either. I asked the new pead about suspension and said it should be fine. I don't know if I'm clutching at straws but do you thnk it is worth trying the tablets again to see if things would improve? Thanks so much for your post

  6. #6
    Registered User

    Apr 2006
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    Don't cry gorgeous. I'm waaaay too hormonal and will have to join in! I reckon give anything a try. If MummaSue had luck with tablets, you've got nothing to lose by trying them.

    You don't want to know when DD2 grew out of it, but as for creating bad habits I don't think so. E is almost 4 now and is a fabulous sleeper. Both my girls have had various amounts of co-sleeping, but I couldn't tell you the last time I had to deal with one of them in some way during the night. They go to bed around 7.30pm and I don't hear from them until at least 7am the next day. I'm a firm believer in you need to do whatever it is you need to do to cope with the here and now - tomorrow, next month, next year is a problem for then.

  7. #7
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    Aug 2006
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    Thanks, I'll stop crying lol. Yikes, really...oh dear. It looks like it might be a long haul then. How did you get through it? Good to know that it doesn't affect her now. Yes I think I do need to cope with the here and now otherwise I might go nuts.

  8. #8

    Oct 2008
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    Hey, the losec isn't meant to be ground up. It's meant to be dissolved. The tiny little beads in the tablet need to stay in tact for it to work.

  9. #9
    Registered User

    Nov 2008
    Perth
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    Hugs. Reflux is tough.

    The tablets and suspension worked really well for DD1, the suspension was just a lot easier to administer so we used that.

    You may need a higher dose before it really kicks in. One of my friends had two severe reflux babies and they both needed a really high dose of Losec before it helped.

    I hope you get a break soon. It's so tiring for all involved

  10. #10
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    Aug 2006
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    Thanks so much for your replies. I am going to try the tablets again and see if it makes a difference. We see the paed again in a week so will see what he says. The thought of increasing meds makes me sad. Feel like it's too much already. Thanks for the support, was feeling really down yesterday. It's hard not knowing the answers.

  11. #11

    Oct 2008
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    Massive hugs

    Definitely try the tablets again, this time, do NOT crush them, let them dissolve for a few minutes in a tiny amount of water then just pop that into bubby's mouth

    Keep us posted.

  12. #12
    BellyBelly Member

    Jan 2010
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    Like MummaSue said, we used to dissolve the tablets (in our case in some breast milk) and then give them to DD off a teaspoon. We tried doing it with a syringe for ages and it always just got stuck in there. Sometimes we'd even just tip the small container that we had dissolved it in straight into her mouth (she got used to it and would just open up in the end).

    Good luck! Reflux sucks. DD was such a bad night sleeper until we got the pain of the reflux under control.