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  1. #1
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    Mar 2009
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    Unhappy I can't do it anymore :(

    I just want to sit in a corner and cry, but I will sit on bb and cry instead. DS's sleep or nor sleep has broken me. He is nearly 18 months old, he goes to bed around 8-9pm. At night it takes up to 2 hours, sometimes longer lately to get him to sleep, I have to lay down with him to get him to sleep otherwise he just gets out of bed. He then wakes up around 12, he settles quickly. At about 1 to 2am he wakes up again and won't settle unless I take him in my bed. He wakes once between then and 4.30 then at about 4.30am he wants a bottle. He then goes back to sleep but is very restless, waking every 15 to 30 minutes until he gets up between 8 or 9. He has 1 day sleep for about 1.5hrs in the afternoon, I have to lay down to get him to sleep then too.
    I am tired, not just tired from no sleep but tired from doing this every day and don't know what to do anymore. I got 30 days before the baby is born and I can't even cope with DS atm. DH is getting really cracky about DS's sleep. He wants to shut him in his room to get him to sleep, I can't do that. Because I won't do that it is my fault it takes 2+hours to get him to sleep.


    Thanks for reading. Any advice would be great.

  2. #2

    Nov 2007
    Earth
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    I'm sorry hun, I have no kids so no advice for you - but I wanted to send you and sleep vibes for DS

  3. #3
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    Jul 2009
    Ormeau
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    Oh you poor thing it can be so hard.

    I have jsut gone through the same thing DS is 9 months old and I settle him to sleep on the booby and even then sometimes he cries when I go to put him dowm. I was like you and couldn't bare to think of shutting the door on him cause I felt like a monster. BUT..... after listening to the girls at my mothers group the other day I have tried a new technique which DS has adapted to in just 3 days. It's not fool proof and sometimes I do still have to settle him btu I'll write what I have been doing.

    Feed DS, take him to bed and lie him down. Say "Good night sleep time now" then shut door and sit down outside for two minutes.

    If DS is not asleep by 2 minutes, go into room, lie DS down again say "good night sleep time now" and go out of room, this time for 4 minutes.

    Repeat up to 15 minutes.

    DS struggled the first couple of times but has really quickly learnt that I am there if anything goes wrong. Seems the balance of being left alone for larger and larger time frames lulls them into a sense of calm.

    I don't know if this will work for you or if you are willing to try, but I know for me it's one step on a long road to a good nights sleep!!!

  4. #4
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    Jan 2009
    hiding under my desk!
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    i would definatly recomend getting elizabeth pantley no cry sleep solutions for toddlers.

    she recomends starting the sleep routine at about 5 so they are in bed by 7
    thats is dinner bath, books....ect

    i would also recomend you DH taking over some of the night parenting so that your son is used to it when your bub comes along as if your feeding the baby you cant tend to him aswell.

    there is nothing wrong with him sleeping with you(even when you have baby) it will make him feel more secure too

  5. #5
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    Mar 2009
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    Mum2 -
    My 3yo is a really bad sleeper - always has been and honestly there is not much we haven't tried. It is not your fault - just how your DS is, don't let anyone make you feel bad about it.
    We had similar issues at 18months and then again when DD2 was born.
    What you need is to find the best fit for you both - I found trying to leave her with door shut etc only escalated the anxiety on her part. In the end I found that I had to keep her nap in the day shorter, I limited to 1 hr on the days I could bear it (initially very hard to do) and made sure she was up before 3.30pm. We'd head out to the garden/park and do very physical things for an hour - then we'd come home and start winding down. So dinner was 5.30 if possible, then a bath and books and bed - I was strict about timing and she was in bed at 7pm each night. I'd read 2 books in bed, we'd talk about the same things each night so she could predict the routine....I still ask what her fav part of the day was, tell her mine, praise her for something I was really proud/pleased with and then tell her how much I love her. DD was pretty clingy and seemed to be quite stressed about where I was so I explained that I had some jobs to do and then I would be going to bed. Initially I sat next to her reading a book, I explained that I would sit there until she slept but I would not talk to her. So no eye contact etc and no talking....I gradually moved out of the room and into the hall way. It did take some time and she is a little older but it really seemed to elleviate the anxst without her getting superstressed. I would also tell her that I wasn't going anywhere and that even though she couldn't see me I was still there and loved her etc.... this may seem OTT but it really helped as I guess she needed to be able to talk herself through it....
    I felt bullied into other options and all they did was make things worse - so trust your gut and instinct and follow it. It is really hard to be patient when all you need is some sleep, especially when you dread what is coming up for the night. Hang in there you will get through this. I used to feel like a failure about DD1 sleep but I look back and wish I had trusted myself as I believe I would have been far more relaxed and excepting of our own situation rather than beat myself up about it. FWIW - DH was and still is pretty impatient about it being 'fixed', not very helpful when you need support.
    HTH - sorry it was soooooooooooo long! Perhaps read it to DS before bed, lol!!!

  6. #6
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    Jan 2006
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    How very difficult for all of you!
    I also recommend the Elizabeth Pantley books, they've been very helpful to me.
    And I agree: don't blame yourself, some kids are just bad sleepers and what works great for some will not work for you - you do have to follow your instincts, guided by your intimate knowledge of your child.
    A few ideas to throw at you:
    Bed time routine - at least 1 hour before bed
    An earlier bedtime (Pantley reckons 6:30-7:30 is ideal time for most kids, and would agree; at least for my son anyway)
    Lots of exercise during the day
    Diet - could there be something he's eating that's disrupting his sleep?
    The timing of his nap (ie, not too late in the afternoon)
    And basically, what Mak and Doudou said
    Really hope you can get some better rest soon (and I'm sure your boy needs it too) and feel free to come and cry on bb anytime you need.

  7. #7
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    Mar 2009
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    Thank you so much everyone for your replies. After posting on here today dh took ds out so I could have a sleep, after I totally broke down. I slept until 1.30 then I tried getting ds to sleep but he just wanted to stand on his head so after 10mins we got up, so he didn't have a day sleep. This afternoon we done singstar, played cars, started doing bubs room, then at about 4pm we went outside and ds played for over a hour. We came in at 5.20, washed hands, picked up toys, had dinner, shower, bottle & read books on the lounge. He sat there the whole time I was reading, looking at the pictures & pointing to things, normally he won't sit still enough to read 1 book but we read 3 book twice. Got in bed at 7pm and he was sound asleep at 7.10. Less than 10 minutes not 2 hours. He has woken up once already but he was asleep again within 3 minutes. That's ok, not expecting miracles overnight. Fingers crossed for a better night tonight. I will let you know tomorrow how we go.

    Should I cut out the day sleep totally?

    Thanks again.