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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Oct 2007
    Caroline Springs
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    Not MY problem...

    It seems that I am the only one that doesn't have a problem with my DS's sleeping habits. DS is 8 months old and wakes 3 hourly during the night for feeds. People always have some opinion about it and the general consensus is that something is wrong and that by this age he should be sleeping through the night, or at least a lot more hours than 3 in a row. Actually, I have to give DH credit, because even though sometimes he mentions that DS should be sleeping longer, he admits that as long as things are working for me and DS, that he'll support any sleeping strategy I want (I'm breastfeeding, and DH is able to sleep through all the night waking and feeds, so he has no problem with sleep, lol).

    Personally, I think that Kyson's sleeping is just fine. He has a pretty good routine or naps during the day (which he put into place, not us) and a fairly stable bedtime. Also, he co-sleeps with us. His cot is side-carred on my side of the bed. His routine is basically as follows:

    6.30-7am - Wakes up and gets up with DH for a play while Mummy has a little snooze.

    8.30am-ish - Comes back to bed for a quick feed (to prolong his naptime) and goes back to sleep. This nap is usually a double cycle, so 1 1/2 hours.

    12pm-12.30pm - Middle of the day nap.

    4pmish - Afternoon nap

    (Usually one of the second two naps is a double cycle and the other is a single cycle. So if the midday nap is 45mins, then the afternoon nap will be 1 1/2 hours).

    After his afternoon nap he turns into a snuggle bear and just wants to be cuddled for about half an hour to an hour and he often dozes during that time.

    7.00pm - The curtains get closed, has his bedtime feed, read a book, then get ready for bed

    7.30pm - Bedtime. I bounce him to sleep. I hold him in my arms while I bounce on the fitball, lol.

    11pm - He has a semi-dreamfeed, nappy change, then back to sleep without a fuss.

    2amish - Wakes for a feed.

    5amish - Wakes for a feed.


    The feeds during the night only take about 15 minutes at the very most and then he is back in his cot and we are both back asleep. All up I would say he gets about 10.5 - 11 hours of sleep each night, and nearly 4 hours of naptime during the day. I read that he should be getting about 14 hours a day of sleep, so he is over that amount. He's a happy, loving little boy, and I'm quite happy with how things are in regards to his sleeping. Of all the other people I know with babies of a similar age, I know a lot of them are worse off than we are. I just wish people would stop making me feel like something is wrong because he doesn't sleep through!


    *sigh* Just wanted to get that off my chest, lol. I know I'm doing the right thing for Kyson

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Jul 2008
    Melbourne
    3,244

    i know exactly what you mean! i always think more about how interrupted my sleep is when other people talk about it. most of the time i'm okay with it, but lately it's really been getting me down & feeling like i'm doing the wrong things. it sounds like kyson is going really well & seeing no one else has to get up, then they shouldn't be so concerned!

  3. #3
    BellyBelly Member

    Jun 2005
    Sydney
    2,121

    hon...i seriously could have written your post.....coz its almost exactly my situation here...
    My H is 7 months....b/fed, wakes 3 hourly....im okay with it now...around the 4mth mark i went thru something (dunno what you would call it ) but was finding it really hard, and really frustrating that my lil man wasnt sleeping through. Got over that....and just prod along now.
    Like your son, hes a happy, content lil boy. H will have a sleep 1.5 hrs after waking up (usually 7am), then have a afternoon nap that is usually 2 hrs (first sleep is anything from 45 mins to 1 hr max)...so very similar to your DS....
    I have family and friends saying i should go to sleep school, he should be sleeping thru by now, blah, blah, blah...well you know what...he's not, and im ok with that, my DH is ok with that, and my other children arent bothered by it. So who else should care....really ?????

    For what its worth...your lil boy sounds divine, and sounds like he is doing just fine...just like you and DH......so enjoy him, coz this first year zips past so fast......and hon...one day, one day he will sleep through.....he's just not doing what the text book says....

    GL....

  4. #4
    Registered User

    Dec 2008
    1,431

    Hun, he sounds perfect! All those gorgeous sleeps during the day and following a gentle routine and all the lovely cuddles in the late afternoon! PPPFFFFTTTT! to anyone who thinks he *should* be doing anything. He's doing exactly what he needs to do, eat, sleep & grow. Honestly, the Should Police need to be issuing a few more fines to anyone who dares mention *should* around babies!!

  5. #5
    Registered User

    Jan 2006
    Sydney
    2,212

    There is no sleeping problem I can see - blow a raspberry at those who *suggest* otherwise. Or tell them it isn't problem for you so it shouldn't be a concern of theirs!!!

  6. #6
    Registered User

    Oct 2007
    Caroline Springs
    2,341

    DH used to joke about sleep school, but has learnt that even the jokes upset me. He's wonderfully supportive though. He doesn't like to hear DS cry either, so he's more than supportive of the gentle approach. I would never judge anyone that goes down the CC/CIO path because I'm sure they have their own reasons and beliefs (like my SIL who had to go back to work at about 8 weeks, therefore really had to get sleep sorted out quickly...) but for our little man I just feel so comfortable with gentle methods.

    Oh, and mbear, like you I went through a phase where what people were saying started to get to me and I started feeling rather down about things and started to actually feel tired. Once I accepted that Kyson just needs to wake up for a couple of extra feeds a nice and rolled with it I found myself much more at ease with the whole situation and I don't tend to feel tired anymore. Well, we do have the occasional bad night where he is unsettled and I find myself spending half the night settling him, but those nights are pretty rare.

    Lol @ "Should Police" !!

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Apr 2008
    The Purple House, Sydney
    1,811

    If it ain't a problwm,it ain't a problem ikwym- all my rellos are stressing about ds talking atm Sheesh, give the kid a break...

  8. #8
    Registered User

    Jan 2008
    in my head
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    He sounds great Krystie!

    My DS has had routines like that in the past, and he's had better and he's had worse. He has tended to wake 4 hourly overnight but we've had long stretches of horrible day sleep patterns and periods like atm when he wakes 1-2 hourly overnight and it seems so random as to why his sleep improves or deteriorates. We've had periods of improvement at 7 and 8 months respectively when he started sleeping longer stretches overnight (the record being 10 hours) and actually started having afternoon naps that went longer than 40mins! (I actually posted in a thread of mbears to say 'chin up, it does get better' before it all went downhill again ). Since he was about 8.5 months old, the day sleeps generally stayed good but the nights have deteriorated again, especially since Christmas. Whatever pattern he has found, it has never lasted long. I think if your DS is in a good routine then to him.

    I have had the same responses from people, (family-friends-professionals) about what he "should" be doing at his age. At first it was upsetting me but now I find if I don't mention his sleep, it doesn't get discussed half as much. Some people still ask about it specifically but I try to keep it vague (before I was often listing the times of his feeds the night before because I was really focused on what he was doing ). I am sick of hearing the advice to CC or CIO - like you I don't have a problem with what others do but seriously, people were suggesting it even if I was just talking about my child's sleep (not complaining about it) and they make out like it's some kind of new technique or like it's something I haven't thought of doing before.

    Sorry to rant on in your thread! You're definitely not alone (except I genuinely am tired from all the broken sleep I've had lately). My strategy atm is to not mention it to others. Your son is not a textbook baby, he's a real, live, healthy, happy, cuddly little boy.

  9. #9
    Registered User

    Nov 2005
    Sunshine Coast
    1,142

    Sound's like he's set himself a great routine. If he's happy & you're happy, why should anyone think its a problem?

    In my vague memory I'm sure DS was feeding 3 times a night at 8 months & like you it didn't bother me.


  10. #10
    Registered User

    Mar 2007
    6,979

    Hey hun, Kyson sounds perfectly 'normal' to me !!!! Nothing wrong with his sleeping.
    He's a perfectly normal baby who wakes when he needs to and settles however he needs to.

    We co-sleep, DD wakes often still at 13mths of age, but we don't stress about it and a few mths ago learnt to accept that she just needs us in the middle of the night (sometimes more than once or twice!! LOL!) and that's okay too.

    PPPffft!!!! Don't worry what others think. What would they know about Kyson anyway?

    I can't believe sleep schools even exist.

    Hope it's all going well chick x

  11. #11
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Jun 2005
    Blue Mountains
    5,086

    Aah yep. Both mine fed frequently overnight for months and months and months.

    I night weaned DS at 15 mths when I was 3 mths pregnant with DD, but you know what.. he still woke at night until he was 2 1/2. Whether they are waking for milk or for comfort, both are important needs that we should meet. Sounds like you're doing a great job.

    and FWIW I know my kids both still needed those night feeds at that age. No way was it just comfort feeding. In fact that's when they got their best feeds!

    I used to just reply with "I don't understand why it worries you.. it's not you waking up at night" since it was mostly my mother that would harp on about it. I think people are so afraid of setting up bad habits with babies... but honestly.. we have had no habits formed from the frequent feeding, cosleeping etc etc that we've done. Unfortunately people need to actually see the results to believe you on that score... but once you prove that there was no rod for your back, it's much easier with the next baby to fob off the silly comments.

    ETA: oh... but one thing that really really annoyed me... because we'd chosen not to "train" our babies to sleep all night.. we somehow lost the right to have a tired day and have a whinge. If I even mentioned that we had a bad night and I was really tired, I received little sympathy and it just started up the stupid comments and suggestions of how to make them sleep. argh. Just let me have a vent and feel tired!
    Last edited by Liz; March 8th, 2010 at 10:42 PM.