Ta Tanya.... well I'm off to baby dace to TRY CATCH our baby girl!!!! wooohooo!!!!!
Its 9pm here in Perth, so good night sweet dreams chicks xx
Cheers Betty
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Ta Tanya.... well I'm off to baby dace to TRY CATCH our baby girl!!!! wooohooo!!!!!
Its 9pm here in Perth, so good night sweet dreams chicks xx
Cheers Betty
hi
just a quick question i usually get o pain and ewcm at the same time does this mean that it is this point i am o. should i wait another 12 or so hours to dtd to try and sway for a boy? not long till we try now fingers crossed..
:)
I would say BD when you have the most EWCM... if you wait too long you will have a O+12 attempt which is a swaying technique for a girl....
Hiya Tanya and Ladies.
Tanya is this LUBE any good - you know in the PH side of things for conceiving a girl.
Cheers Betty
Sorry didn't see your post Betty... yeah the ones I mentioned are for ttc a girl... not pre-seed.
Ok... here's some more girl diet info
THE GIRL DIET
Daily recommended supps Calcium 800mg, Magnesium 300mg, Vitamin D (also cut out as much sodiuma and potasium - read your lables)
Suppliments
Every day of the cycle
Calcium (1200 mg a day) take from af to O calcium in the cm helps to sway for a girl
Magnesium (250 mg a day)take from af to O Mag. in the cm helps to sway for a girl
Folic Acid (450 mcg a day)take all the time THIS DOES NOT SWAY! IT PREVENTS BIRTHDEFECTS AND PREVENTS MC
Acidilophis (2 a day) take from af to OThis is taken to lower pH. side effects: this is a funny supplment. Either it will lower your pH dramaticaly or you will raise it. It is different for different people
B6 (100 mg a day) Take all the time, but when you get a bfp you need to ween off slowly- if you take 100 this means the next week you take 80, then the next week 60 then 40, 20, 10 then stop. This is taken to raise progestrone and legthen luteal phase. Side efffects: When taken before O it may dealy O. It will also legthen your luteal phase
Chasteberry (Vitex) (500 mg a day) this has progestrone so you need to treat it the same as you would with b6
Tums (whenever you think about it- isn’t necessary to take this and calcium since it is the same thing)
Every day from AF to O
Cranberry (total of 1,500 to 10,000 mg a day if possible) take from af to O this is taken to lower pH side effect: cranberry can not be taken after O as it can cause mc. Cranberry is a blood thinner so if you already taking a blood thinner do not take this.
Lydia Pinkham (take from af to O) this is taken to raise progestrone and regulate cycles side effect: This will either make your cycles regural or screw them up
Before sex
Sudafed (or Claratin D, etc.) (a few hours before sex) this is taken to lower pH and dry up cm
Husband take
Cranberry (as much as he’ll take) side effect: blood thinner.. see above
Any of the other supplements you are taking if he’ll take them except Vitex or Lydia Pinkham.
Daily Fluid Intake Must be 2-2 1/2 litres (8-10 glasses) This is very important for proper calcium absorbtion
DIETARY GUIDELINES
Milk Products : Drink 750 ml milk daily. Include 2 milk products such as yoghurt & custard daily
Eggs: Allowed
Cheese: Small serves cottage cheese. 1 dessertspn of parmesan cheese twice a week
Drinks
Tea & Coffee: Basically forbidden but one cup only of either is acceptable. It must be very weak!
Mineral Water: Evian, Perrier (all other brands are too high in pot/sodium)
Wine: An Occassional drink allowed (150ml)
Meat (maximum 130g per day)
Lamb: 1 midloin chop(large) or 1 chump chop(medium) or 1 forequarter chop
Beef: 1 piece oyster blade (med) or 1/2 t-bone steak or 1pce eye fillet (2.5cm thick)
Pork: 1 butterfly steak or 1 midloin (med)
Chicken: 1 breast & meat from 1 drumstick
Fish: Must be cooked in a 'court bouillon' ie poached in 500ml water, a little wine & herbs.. discard liquid to serve...reduces natural salt content
Bread: Must be low salt content (less than 1%), white has less potassium, salt free crispbread or crackers
Pasta: Permitted without restriction if prepared without forbidden ingredients
Rice: brown or white permitted
Cereals: Semolina, Tapioca, Cous cous, Corn flour, plain wheat flour (not SR), puffed rice
Vegetables: Maximum allowance 150g daily
Allowed: fresh or frozen carrots, green beans, turnips, onion, leeks, peas, cucumbers, radishes, green/red peppers, cress, celery,eggplant, fresh asparagus
Potatoes Not to be eaten more than 3 times per week
Fruit: maximum allowance 150g daily
May be fresh frozen or canned...small apple 110g, pear (med) 170g, raspberries 1/2 cup 50g, strawberries large 15-20g each
Tinned ONLY (not fresh) & without syrup...pineapple, plums,peaches
Nuts: unsalted walnuts, hazelnuts, almonds, peanuts
Sweet Foods
Jams: Not more than once a day, only one desertspn
Sugar/Honey:Restrict as much as possible as too much sugar interferes with calcium absorbtion
Concession: 1 orange & 1 lemon per week
Herbs: Allspice, aniseed, bay leaves, cloves, chives, chervil, chilli,coriander,cilantro,cumin, garlic, horseradish,juniper,marjoram, mint, paprika, parsley,saffron, sage, thyme, tumeric
Miscellaneous: Vegetable oils, pepper, spices, mustard, gelatine, homemade sauces without salt or forbidden ingredients
Cooking Tips: Do not use a salt substitute...everything must be cooked without salt. Onions, garlic, pepper & spices can be used to improve the flavour of food.
FORBIDDEN FOODS
Drinks: coffee, tea,chocolate, mineral waters(except those permitted), cordial, fresh or tinned juice, fizzy drinks, wine, beer, cola, cider, liqueurs, apertifs
Meat: all smallgoods including smoked meats
Fish: fish fingers, smoked, dried or salted fish, tinned fish,shellfish, prawns,anchovies, caviar
Cheese:all forbidden (high salt)
Bread/ pastries: white, wholemeal, rye bread, milk loaf, fruit loaf, crispbreads, croissants, buns,bought biscuits, cakes, icecream, quiches, pizzas
Fresh fruit: Pineapples, plums, peaches, apricots, cherries, bananas, oranges,melons, lemons, grapefruit, redcurrants, grapes, fruit juices
Dried fruit: apricots, dates, figs, raisins, chestnuts, sultanas, prunes, coconut, currants
Vegetables: sweet corn, flat leaf continental parsley,spinach, cabbage, mushrooms, endive, avocado, fennel, raw tomatoes, soya beans,pumpkin, split peas,broad beans, lentils, haricot beans
Sweets: chocolates, lollies
Salt: of any description
Chemical raising agents, bicarb soda, effervescent drugs
Soups from sachet or tins, stock cubes
Tomato paste, sauce, bottled mayonnaise or other sauces
Tinned fresh or frozen ready made meal
Jelly
Salted or slightly salted butter or margarine
Olives, gherkins, marinades, pickles, popcorn
UNDERSTANDING YOUR DIET
It is important that you understand the principles which form the basis of this diet. Essentially it requires you to eat foods that are rich in calcium & magnesium but low in potassium & sodium. This must be strictly adhered to if you are to gain maximum benefit from it.
Why are these restrictions necessary?
Tea,Coffee & Alcohol
Each cup of tea or coffee causes you to lose calcium from your body. Alcohol with its diuretic effect also causes the kidneys to excrete more calcium than they would normally
Chocolate: This is very high in potassium & contains oxalates which bind with calcium & make it unusable
Wheat Bran: This contains phytates which also rob the body of calcium. For eg., for every 100g of bran that is eaten the body loses 350 mg calcium
Meat: Restricted because of its high protein content. If you eat more than 120g protein a day you begin to enter a dietary range where the protein will cause calcium loss.
Sugar: Heavy intake of sugar will cause you to lose calcium through excess excretion. It is recommended that you keep your sugar intake to less than 60 g per day
Important Facts To Note
Always drink 8-10 glasses of water per day. It is important to drink this amount as it will help the body to dissolve & to absorb the increased calcium that is being taken in, whether from food or supplements. Calcium cannot be absorbed well or excreted safely without water.
Do not attempt this diet if you suffer from poor kidney function .This could result in kidney stones due to the increased calcium intake.
Commence the diet & mineral supplements 6 -10 weeks before a planned conception.
It must be stressed that the diet should only be undertaken with careful medical or naturopath supervision. It is recommended to have a check up before starting & to continue regular check ups whilst on the diet to ensure that excessive electrolyte imbalance is avoided.
This diet was extracted from "the girl diet", an e-book purchased from Sue Roebuck, a natural fertility naturopath in Australia.
Suppliments
Every day of the cycle
Calcium (1200 mg a day)
Magnesium (250 mg a day)
Acidilophis (2 a day)
B6 (100 mg a day) Take all the time, but when you get a bfp you need to ween off slowly- if you take 100 this means the next week you take 80, then the next week 60 then 40, 20, 10 then stop. This is taken to raise progestrone and legthen luteal phase. Side efffects: When taken before O it may dealy O. It will also legthen your luteal phase
Chasteberry (Vitex) (500 mg a day) this has progestrone so you need to treat it the same as you would with b6
Cranberry (total of 1,500 to 10,000 mg a day if possible) cranberry can not be taken after O as it can cause mc.
Before sex
Sudafed (a few hours before sex) this is taken to lower pH and dry up cm
Husband take
Cranberry
Thanks to the girls at in-gender for this info :)
From in-gender:
Douching an hour before is critical for this to work. Then the new step for ttc a girl starts a ? hour after bd or tbm. After having your hips elevated for ? hour take a mixture of vinegar and distilled water and place it in a douche bag (you want about ? the bag full or about 60-80 ml or 2-2.5 oz ) and insert it into the vj. Then take a lime soaked tampon and place it in there to prevent leakage- you can remove this ? hour later. The following is explanation on how to make the mix, the pickle vinegar tampon, and other info
*For the mix you want this to have a pH of 4 (2-2.5oz of distilled water and 5ml of vinegar). The study this is based on uses vinegar.
*To make a vinegar soaked tampon you put vinegar in a plastic cup and soak the tampon while still in the plastic applicator. Right before inserting take the tampon out so that it isn't dripping. Then you insert it while still lying down and leave it in for about 30 minutes.
Hello Ladies,
DH and I have decided to ttc #3 at the end of the year. Firstly we would love a healthy bubby but we would also really love a "blue: bundle. We have 2 DD's one 2.8 years and bub is 7 months!!! Obviously we have the pink recipe, so now we need the blue recipe.
I have heard that a womens ph can help to determine the sex of a bub. I have also seen some ph sticks on Lullaby Conceptions.
Does anyone know how this works?
Bek, there is lots of info throughout these gender swaying threads, each thread is linked to the last one in the first post. I have also linked some info in the first thread. Check it out :)
Omg! I really want to sway toward a girl next. But that has just scared me, alot to take in! And Dp will wonder why Im swaying for a girl when he would like to try for a boy :rolleyes::lol:
Hi everyone, i was just wondering when on the girl diet are you alowed to drink decefe coffee and green tea or are you not alowed these either.
Thanks
How does lemon make you alkaline when it is an acid?
HI All,
I would love to try swaying for a boy, there hasn't been a boy born to any of DH brothers (7 girls) it would be great if I could have a boy.
Can anyone please (in simple terms I am a bit dense) tell me what I should be doing for diet, position and timing wise?
Ta
Hello everybody...
I have two little boys and I want to try for a girl this time around.... heres what I have been doing...
At the moment I am taking Calcium and Magnesium tablets, a Pregnancy Multi, Cranberry tablets. I have been looking at the Shettles Method and have a really early cut off day so as not to get too close to ovulation.
I have also been looking at O+12 but am still abit wary about this as it seems so close to ovulation that I'm not sure how its possible to get anything but a boy!!
Has anyone had success conceiving a girl using either the Shettles or O+12 methods?
L.
Oh man there is so much to take in where do you start?
I have four beautiful healthy boys and would desparately love a little girl to complete our family. We havent started trying yet as this is our last chance and I really dont want to get it wrong. I have bought the opk and Ph kits from ebay and have read up a little (so much info) about diet, supplements, books etc.
On a personal note though I need to be in the right head space for this and I dont think I am just yet. I have just found out my brother is having a little girl and I am very jealous. Happy for them of course but I want it to be me. My last son was supposed to be our last and I was upset for days when we discovered he was a boy. Dont get me wrong I love him to death and cant imagine not having him but I am really scared of my reaction if we have another son.
I am incrediably grateful for my boys and their health but I cant help but think of the little girl I want so badly.
Does anyone else feel this way? Scared to get pregnant but scared not to?
Wow that seemed to take a long time for a new thread. I hope everyone makes the switch.
Oh and congrats to Allioops!
Yay - new thread !
Another day - another calcium tablet, magnesium tablet, alot of water and alot of food i dont like ! :wall:
But, you gotta do what you gotta do !
xxooo
Back again !
Feeling quite frustrated this arvo.
Last night i purchased some more calcium and magnesium tabs cause i was nearly out. I actually got some that are stronger than the ones i was taking. BUT....
I started the new ones this morning and i have just done a test and now i am more alkaline :wall: WHY ??
I am now thinking i will have to go back to the first lot even though they were weaker, at least i was more acidic !!
I DONT GET IT !!
This is doing my head in - and i thought i was cruising along.
I dont have enough time up my sleave for a setback. Only roughly 15 / 16 sleeps till .... :bd: :lol: (sorry TMI)
Anyway - does anyone have any ideas ? HELP ???
Hi everyone well done lb excellent news, and 20 wks already wow that came around quickly!
Well im not sure where im at this month im cd18 and still no +opk and temp shift?? the lastest ive ever ov was cd16 until i started to take saw palmetto last month and i ovd on cd18, so im v confused.
Ph is low though and cm creamy so thats good, if i ov today i will have had a 3 day cut off which is what i wanted if i dont ov today then ill go for an o +12 then:doh:
diet supps etc is doing my head in now, been at it since january!!:wall: I was pg first month with all my boys guess i thought it would be the same this time too
good luck all:pray:
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thanks lc you will get there im sure of it just keep trying.
I know it has gone quickly but now i just want t o see her lol.
I did the calcium and magnesium tablets and i dtd up to 4 days before ov and then stopped.
sometimes i think its luck i dont know like i said before it still may come out a boy yet lol.
Hey all, well I am not ttc just yet, but I will be going off the pill next cycle and then ttc towards the end of the year (if we dont have a woopsie by then!)
I have 2 beautiful girls and would love for a boy this time around. Anyone got any tips? I might start temping again. Is it worth buying opks? Do I have to change diet or anything?
Thanks Melissa
Hi Minimatron !
I have never done temping or used OPK's but alot of people do and would probably recommend it.
As for a boy - have you read the info at the start of this thread about boy and girl diets and making your PH level alkaline for a boy ?
There is alot of great info there.
AFM- well, still doing the girl diet - very over it ! But as i have said before i will keep plodding along. Really hoping that i get a BFP so that i can drop the diet.
I have been eating ONION, ONION and more ONION !!
Mixing it in with my vegies probably every second day and it is working a treat - getting my PH down lower and keeping it down. Happy about that. The downside is that it is not a very pleasant aroma ! Pity all the people i come across ! :lol:
Anyway - hope everyone is well and having fun TTC
xxoo
hey all..didnt realise wed started a nw thread lol was wondering why it was so quiet...
went to the dr today and couldnt find the HB so went for a scan today and they did the anatomy scan aswell and all was fine.......it had its feet over its head along with lots of other unco positions which meant we didnt get a good look at the bits although she said she didnt see any obvious boy bits but im not getting my hopes up just yet....still wondering whether i should try peek next time or keep the sex a surprise...im thinking surprise as its my last chance and im not really worried bout it......
good luck to everyone where ever you are
HI everyone.
I`m not about to jump into this group properly yet, but I think we will have a go with ttc a girl for number 3 - when we are ready (which is not now).
I know a bit about gender sway, but need to read back on these threads too I suppose.
For prepping my body in advance of ttc I was wondeirng about diet.
Do you think diet really does make much difference in getting the desired outcome? I have read Tanyas post from somewhere way back which said boy food and girl foods and pretty much all the boys food is what I eat ( and hey - I have 2 boys), but maybe I wouldve got them anyway. It seems a fair bit to change my diet to a girl diet. For example I have a diary allergy so I need to find other ways of increasing my calcium...
anyway, wondering what peoples thoughts and suggestions are for me about the dietary effects for gender swaying?
Hi girls,
Im new to this site and have a few questions regarding trying to conceive a boy I hope someone can help me. I have a little girl and i have no problem what the next one is but my partner longs for a boy.
My last MP was the 31/05/09 and my cycle is 29 days, we had nookie (sorry unsure of the Acronyms you guys use) i think on the 12th June, the 14th June ovulated on the 15th June then had nookie on the 17th and 18th June. my question is
to have a girl the experts say to have sex 3-4 days before ovulation then abstain but what if you keep having nookie 24 hours before you ovulate? does that mean the girls are there waiting for the egg but then the boy sperm comes in and what happens? what are my chances of having either sex? anyone know?
sorry about my immature languge ive tried to find a few websites on this question to no avail.
Thanks guys, if anyone has any ideas I would so appreciate some feedback.
hi ladies
concernig the diet i couldnt do it there is just no way i could of stuck to it and when i was trying it it never changed so i spoke to my gp who told me that about 2/3 on the morning is when your acid is at its lowest so i would wake hubby up about then and do it lol.I did however take the calcium magnesium pills.
I still cant believe that my gs worled so i am getting a 3d scan done in august at 27 weeks so they can give me a clear picture for proof lol crazy i know.
Good luck all
Hi Everyone !
Hope you are all well -
Ok, 2 - 3 am is your most acidic time ? mmm.... Looks like i will be waking DH then :lol:. I will give it a shot - why not - i am pretty desperate, the lack of sleep wont kill me ! Dh wont complain at the time, i'm sure !
Anyway, i think i have been doing all i can to give myself the best chance at falling pregnant with a pink bundle. If this one ends up being blue too then i will have to just live with that. Its my last chance !
But all that aside - i will still love the baby if its a boy -
AF arrived yesterday, so we are a step closer
Good luck to all TTC and Gender Sway -
Salsa - maybe you could just take calcium and magnesium tablets and eat other bits that you arent allergic to ?
xxoo
hey all well I'm 20 weeks as of yesterday and was also dh bday and we had a scan and found out were having a girl so very exciting as I didn't think I o I didn't try any gs things but we dtd every day starting the week before good luck to everyone xxx
Hi Everyone !
Well the deed is done - now we just have to wait.
I am a bit concerned - OK alot concerned !
Last week was absolute chaos - DS#2 b'day - parties and sleepovers etc
So it was a huge week - so tired and didnt get to DTD anywhere near as much as hoped (sorry TMI) Only managed 2 times and it ended up being later than i hoped.
Then i had tummy and back pain yesterday - was thinking it might be OV which would mean i OV early. Which means we DTD too close to OV!!!
Aaaaaaaarrrrrggggggggghhhhhhh - this whole thing has done my head in -
Ph levels up and down
Didnt get to DTD when we wanted
OV early ?
Anyway - i guess now i have to wait to see if i am even pregnant yet before i get too worried ! If i'm not, then thats cool cause i get another chance to get the timing right.
OH WELL - hope everyone else is well !
Take care
P.s - Thats great news Heavenly ! - you lucky thing !
xxoo
How are you CB? How long till you test?
I have just hads my 1st attempt at another boy. My pH when I started last month would not budge from 4.5 but after 6-7 weeks on the boy diet it went up to 7 :) Unfortunately when it came O time it went back down to about 6. Not too stress tho, but I am hanging to eat some chocolate and icecream!!
Hi Tanya,
I will be 9 dpo on Friday - so will test anywhere from the on - i got a BFP earlier this year at 9 dpo then again at 11 dpo. Of course this week is dragging !
Not feeling overly confident that i have succeeded but i gave it a go. If it doesnt happen this month then we will just keep trying.
Glad to hear that you are trying again - i think that is fabulous !
I really hope you get a BFP !
Heres to :pray: for both of us !
Take care
Will definitely pop back in and let you know how i go.
Hi to anyone else that pops in here too.
xxoo
CB, Just wanted to say that leek is better than onion on the girl diet :) I hope you get a nice early BFP!! I am only a few days behind you and will be testing eearly in hopes of coming off the diet :)
Eeeek - Leek ! mmmmm........oh well, if i get a BFN this time i will eat Leek like its going out of fashion. :lol:
Like i said - not feeling confident cause i had such a topsy turvy week so i am in one way hoping for a BFN so i can have a proper go but in another way i want a BFP cause i just want to be pregnant again !! Come to think of it - i had alot of trouble 'controlling' my PH levels the closer i got to ovulation..........not sure if it had anything to do with DTD ?
I have stopped the diet for the moment - wasnt coping - stopped 3 days after ovulation. Its a risk i was prepared to take cause of the lack of all the things i love in my diet - biscuits, chocolate, cakes, chips, lollies, spag bol, lasagne etc etc ! :rolleyes:
Hey Tanya, where do i get info on the boy diet and whats with the ph levels??? Wont be ttc til Sept ....well thats when i come off the pill, but would dearly love a boy. Good luck to both of you testing at the end of the week:)
Hi,
If you go back to the start of this thread you will find a link for the previous thread - should be some info in there. I am sure Tanya will pop in and help you out.
Your PH levels are what you need to keep an eye on in regards to Acidic (for a girl) and Alkaline (for a boy). eg: I am naturally more alkaline so in order to try for a girl i need to get my PH levels down to more acidic. This is where the diet and tablets come in. Tanya seems to be naturally more acidic so she is trying the boy diet to make her more alkaline. Does that make sense? :rolleyes:
You can buy PH test strips off Ebay or probably from chemists - I got mine off Ebay but have found them confusing. I am sure there are some simpler ones out there. You just test your urine and the strip tells you where your levels are.
Good luck !
Hey Mel,:
I think I posted a fair bit of info on the diet in the gender swaying info thread... You can get loads of info on the diet from the internet. There is a site where a woman has devised a cook book for gender swaying PM me if you would like a link. Be mindful that the pill will make you acidic so you will need to work hard on getting your pH up.
Studies have shown that pH can play a big role in determining which sperm fertilises the egg, low pH will favour X sperm and high pH can favour Y sperm... usually the more fertile you are the higher your pH will be (although last cycle I didn't budge from 4.5 with is very acidic!). You will find if you follow the boy diet your pH will increase. The diet will also help increase/decrease hormones that are known to sway toward one gender or the other. You will need to be on the diet for AT LEAST 6 weeks prior to ttc :)
HTH's :)
So, CB, how are you going? Things are going well, here... still sticking to the diet, but I am craving sugar BADLY!! LOL... Not long now *sigh*
Hi Tanya !
I am going to test tomorrow or Sunday - still need to buy tests. I figured i wouldnt buy any till i need them otherwise i start testing too early and waste them :rolleyes:
I am still lacking confidence - so if i get a BFP this time round i will be very surprised.
It has been a very long week. I am due to get AF on Wednesday so i should know by then at the latest i guess.
BUT i want to know NOW !
Good luck with testing - i guess we could be POAS at the same time !
xxoo
Any news CB? I tested... couldn't help myself... only 7dpo... BFN... LOL... I reccon if I m not pg this cycle the novilty will wear off and I won't test so early in the future.
Good luck
gender swaying when you BF and AF has not returned yet, any advise?
We would love a girl next time, and its likely we wont ttc again after a third, so really trying to get my head round all this stuff I need to learn for a ttc DD.
I guess the best we can do for now is I can make changes to my diet to try increase calcium and mag. Cut salt and sugar.I might buy some ph strips too...
any other suggestions?
We are not ttc again yet but we are not taking precautions either.
No luck here yet,
Went to the chemist to buy tests and ran into a friend !! So i bought some multi vitamins for my boys and left. Didnt want anyone to see me buying tests. :lol:
I found a test in my knicker drawer today. One that i had left over from last time. Just a little cheap one that i got off the net. Knowing full well that it wasnt an early test, i did it just before lunch anyway. BFN !!
Didnt surprise me but i couldnt help myself. :rolleyes:
Now im not sure if i should bother going out to buy some yet (in fear of waisting them) or just leave it and see if AF shows up !
I bet it gets the better of me - but i dont really want to keep seeing BFN's either.
I know that i am quite prepared for AF to show up Wednesday/Thursday. Thats just crazy - i know !
Sorry, you got a BFN too ! LOL at 7dpo - its so hard to resist testing. I am a serial POAS type lady :lol:
I am trying so hard to not get in the car and go to the chemist - will let you know if i do.
Fingers Crossed !