thread: does DD have to have step 2 formula?

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  1. #1
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    Oct 2008
    Canning Vale, Perth
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    does DD have to have step 2 formula?

    DD is on Nan pro gold, and since changing from step 1 to step 2 at 6 months, although she was always prone to constipation, she has gotten anal tears, a haemmorhoid, bleeding, all this despite having coloxyl drops in her bottles. the GP said not to worry but her poos are rock hard and she screams and is bleeding.

    i asked the chemist and they said its advisable for her to stay of the step 2 but is it really necessary? she is in so much pain and is scared of pooping and my GP seems to be useless with babies.

    please help, i cant bear to wait til after the new yr to get a doc appt

  2. #2
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    Dec 2007
    Taking a ride on my grdonkey :D
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    Oh hun that sucks so bad :/ Poor bubba!! DD2 is on S26 and has been having a bit of the same (not quite as severe, she had a bleeding bum for a couple of days last week and squealed in pain passing a few hard poos, poor baby) trouble herself since switching over and starting on solids. I assumed it was because she's started eating 'dry' solids like biscuits and generally gummy foods (like porridge etc) that need lots of extra water to make up for, kwim? Offering extra water during the day as well as when she's eating solids seems to have helped with the transition, especially in this heat when they're prone to dehydration, too
    Maybe try offering DD a few extra bottles/sippy cups of water between bottles and solids, to get her into the habit? Does she like water so far? I had heaps of trouble getting DD1 to drink water, she used to just scream and scream until she was offered milk, she was about 10 months old before she would accept it. Hopefully someone who knows a bit more about formula will come along and help you out, sweetie. Give bub a big hug from me and I hope you can get her constipation sorted out soon!

  3. #3
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    Sep 2008
    Gold Coast
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    Have a look at the ingredients on the tins. One formula I looked at only had like 20mg diff on ONE ingredient.
    I cant see how it would hurt for a short time, its the added iron you want to avoid
    Oh, just read you are on gold. sack it and change to just regular - too much iron

  4. #4
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    Dec 2007
    Sunny Qld
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    Usually babies get constipation from too much iron in the formula. My kids couldn't have the gold stuff cos it gave them horrible constipation - DD1 was the WORST of all the kids though, and she was on goats milk formula - much gentler on their tummies and easier for them to digest. So DD2 is on that now too.

    Anyhoo - I'd try the Step 2 - just because apparently it doesn't have as much iron in it as the Step 1 cos they are eating solids after 6 months and getting iron from other sources.

    HTH.

  5. #5
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    Absolutely not.
    DS1 was the same we tried nan ha gold 2 for a week, and he got soo constipated, I spoke to the MCHN and paed and both said that there was no need to change to a follow on formula, esp if they are having some solids and iron fortified cereal etc.
    Last edited by Pandora; January 17th, 2010 at 01:24 PM.

  6. #6
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    Jan 2008
    Country Victoria
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    My DD1 was on EBM until 11 months when I stopped expressing. When I was unable to express anymore the hospital program she is on (she is fed via naso-gastric tube) provide formula under their program anyway, her dietican put her on Karicare 'from birth' formula, even though there is a follow on formula for older babies, she was on the 'from birth' from 11 months and we swapped her over to a premade 1-6yo child formula at 16 months, now she is back on EBM since DD2 came along .

    So long story short, my DD was on 'from birth' formula from 11 months to 16 months of age and she had always been in the normal weight range etc.

  7. #7
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    Oct 2007
    Sunshine Coast
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    No absolutely not, she can stay on Step 1 and indeed she should if she is having these kind of problems.

    My MCHN always said that if babies are still being satisfied hunger-wise on the Step 1 there was no need to change up at all and to stay on Step 1 until you changed them to cows milk at 12 months. Step 2 is really only needed for hungrier babies, it is more filling because it is casein-based rather than whey-based like Step 1.

    Further, she always recommended that you wait until closer to 8 months before moving up to Step 2 because constipation problems were very common at 6 months when changing, especially when you consider that you are starting solids around the same time.

    My DS couldn't cope with Step 2 constipation-wise until he was closer to 9 months - but he was only ever supplemented with formula, I was also bfing him. DD was fully FF'd by 3 months of age and I kept her on Step 1 (Nan Pro Gold) all the way through to 13 months when I got her drinking cows milk and she has always thrived (97th percentile for height, weight and head circumference). I actually think it said on the Nan can that babies who are FF'd from an early age should stay on Step 1 until 12 months.

    Chuck out the Step 2 and go back to Step 1!

  8. #8
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    Oct 2008
    Canning Vale, Perth
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    thanks girls, she even got constipated on step one (guessing cause its gold) but i cant go thru the stress of trying tonnes of different formulas, went thru that when she was 1st switched from BF to FF.

    Donna: no she flat out refuses water even with a bit of flavoring in it e.g. ribena, will only stop crying when formula is given...