thread: Despite popular opinion, sleep is NOT over rated!

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  1. #1
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    Nov 2007
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    Despite popular opinion, sleep is NOT over rated!

    Well DD2 seems to think sleep is over rated!!
    If I didn't know any better I would think I'd have given birth to an elf. She is such a strong willed little thing. (D&D nerds will get that reference )

    In bed at 7pm up at 11:30pm, 2am, 4am until 5am, then 7am.
    After 10mths of this I think I may need some assistance in locating my brain!
    I'm a zombie!

    She feeds to sleep every time she wakes, won't go to sleep any other way.

    She naps well during the day generally a three hour nap in the morning and another one for maybe 40min in the afternoon if we have time for it.

    I'm not really just after any solutions, I know it will pass and she will get better!! Just need a vent cause if someone else tells me that I need to suck it up and let her cry I might just slap them!

    Maybe just some help when the time comes to find my sanity??

  2. #2
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    Jul 2005
    Rural NSW
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    Where does she sleep?
    I know it's hard, i remember all too well. I never let mine cry either. I found that co-sleeping helped.

  3. #3
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    Nov 2007
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    We were co-sleeping, but since she has started crawling she crawled off the bed a couple times because I'm so tired i didn't hear her stir.
    We put a single next to ours up against the wall but she crawled off the end.
    So just last week we have put her into the cot next to the bed. She usually will come into our bed when she wakes at 4pm (4am I mean, 4pm I wish!! ha) and we co sleep til we wake for the day.

    She is just a clingly little bub, will not let me out of her sight through the day, so i think this is contributes.
    Last edited by ll80; October 14th, 2009 at 12:06 PM. : correcting typo

  4. #4
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    Dec 2007
    Sunny Qld
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    I have no advice cos I feel your pain!! Miss M still hasn't slept through the night, and is usually up for a few hours in the wee hours of the night!!! She's just wanting to play though - I wish I could give her a bottle and she'd go back to sleep!!!

    So no advice - just LOADS of sympathy

  5. #5
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    Jul 2005
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    Ah ok. When our youngest became active we also introduced a cot but he also woke around 3am for a feed and co-slept with us until about 7am. We also occasionally tried sleeping with him down on a futon mattress next to our bed then I would creep back into mine. He couldn't fall off the mattress and we closed to door so he couldn't get out. He was also more clingy... I put it down to him being the one I was separated the longest immediately after birth. He is now 3yo and is in his own single bed but still wakes up at 3/4am most night and comes into our room to sleep with us until morning... but often sleeps to 8am which is a blessed relief.

    This too shall pass... if you are a SAHM just take it easy. I'm still taking it easy LOL

  6. #6
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    Nov 2007
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    hehe yeah am a SAHM. I can hardly remember my own name let alone function in a work place. If the dishes don't get done til 3pm, it's no big deal in this house!

    you know it's interesting you say you were seperated the longest from your youngest.
    After DD2 was born we were seperated because I had to go into surgery to have a tear repaired. DH had left not knowing this would have to happen to get DD1, so she could meet her little sister.
    She would have been alone for a little while before he came back.

    Thanks Mel! We can shout each other coffee, I might put some whiskey in mine lol

  7. #7
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    Dec 2007
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    Thanks Mel! We can shout each other coffee, I might put some whiskey in mine lol
    Yup not a problem, when you come down to visit yeah?

  8. #8
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    May 2009
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    Well DD2 seems to think sleep is over rated!!

    In bed at 7pm up at 11:30pm, 2am, 4am until 5am, then 7am.
    After 10mths of this I think I may need some assistance in locating my brain!
    I'm a zombie!
    Is this her routine every night?

    Maybe you could try shifting her bed time 2-3 hours later to coincide with your own bedtime, so that you can take advantage of her 4.5 hour stretch? An added bonus is the 4-5am wake period would actually be at a more reasonable hour (more like 7 - 8am), so you'd get an 8 hour period with 2 wakings, instead of 3-4. To get her going to bed later, start her bedtime routine 10-15 mins later each night, until she's going to sleep at the time that suits.

  9. #9
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Jan 2006
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    Have you considered a mattress on the floor? That's where DS has slept since around 8 months cause he hated his cot and no room for us all together in bed.

    We've never let DS cry it out either, but he's gradually gotten better (on the whole). If he's sick, teething or going through any sort of developmental leap then he needs a whole lot more help getting to sleep and staying asleep. That's just the way he is i think.

    Too bad about the IL invasion. How long they there for?

  10. #10
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    Nov 2007
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    Well not much has improved here!
    I am still a zombie and she is still waking up at least 4-5 times a night. I went out and brought some Braurers sleep calm and that has made a big difference in getting her to sleep. Not a magic cure for the waking up but its something at least.
    TO cut her some slack she is cutting the top two front teeth at the moment so that's probably contributing to her wakefulness.
    Just have to ride it out!

    Is this her routine every night?

    Maybe you could try shifting her bed time 2-3 hours later to coincide with your own bedtime, so that you can take advantage of her 4.5 hour stretch? An added bonus is the 4-5am wake period would actually be at a more reasonable hour (more like 7 - 8am), so you'd get an 8 hour period with 2 wakings, instead of 3-4. To get her going to bed later, start her bedtime routine 10-15 mins later each night, until she's going to sleep at the time that suits.
    I have tried making her bed time later but she just cries and whinges the whole time, it's better for my own sanity to let her sleep and me have at least a few hours to myself where I can sit and do nothing.

    She's cut back her afternoon sleep now, so not having that at all just maybe an hour or two in the morning so come 6-7pm she is well and truely ready for bed. I am well and truely ready for her to go to bed lol

    Have you considered a mattress on the floor? That's where DS has slept since around 8 months cause he hated his cot and no room for us all together in bed.

    We've never let DS cry it out either, but he's gradually gotten better (on the whole). If he's sick, teething or going through any sort of developmental leap then he needs a whole lot more help getting to sleep and staying asleep. That's just the way he is i think.

    Too bad about the IL invasion. How long they there for?
    I was just thinking of mattress on the floor, if things dont improve soon will give it a go. Means having to go out and buy one but thats no big deal can just buy the base then when she is ready for big bed.

    and the inlaws are staying too damn long!!
    few more weeks most likely if not longer

  11. #11
    BellyBelly Member

    Jul 2006
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    I know it's no laughing matter..but your first two sentences mde me giggle as we are still exactly the same here! arrrggghhhhhh!

    Hang in there!

  12. #12
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    Jun 2008
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    Hey we started using a mattress on the floor maybe 2 weeks ago.... first thing that happened was that I was suddenly able to settle her without BB - dummy and a cuddle and she was back to sleep. Then she dropped from waking twice a night, to once a night and the last two nights she has slept through till 5am or 6am! Better for me too cause I can just lie down with her, don't have to get her out of bed or put her back in! Worth a shot!

  13. #13
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Jan 2006
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    (almost) anything is worth a go, hey?
    We were lucky in that we had a queen-size mattress lying around, so DS has plenty of room to roll around, and we can co-sleep when he's having extra trouble.
    TEETH - yes, that'll certainly cause disruptions. I know DS has a very hard time sleeping for at least a couple of weeks before the teeth start errupting and then this continues until they're all the way through.... sigh.

  14. #14
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    Rural NSW
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    Yep, I highly recommend a mattress, preferably a double, on the floor beside your bed. If you buy a futon mattress you can roll it up for storage when not in use. It's a very handy thing to have... don't buy foam... not comfy and harder to store. We've used our futon regularly for 18 years. They are handy when the kids have sleepovers when they're older too.