I mean, i think that the pilot programs are letting so many more families achieve a shot at a HB and is a powerful way to start changing thinking, but boy it is a slow process and i just dont see why there needs to so much derision - especially from the midwives running the program. i guess i made a naive assumption that they were pro-HB. but instead they are pro-system and follow the system whereever it takes them (even if at home ITMS). (Oh and i am talking about VIC programs here - they tend to be the most stringent in terms of what they dont allow from what i am gathering...for example other states are now piloting 'all risk' instead of 'low risk' HB programs).

and yes, they even drew the dead baby card (a poor family lost a baby when it was born at home - before the hossy midwives could get there. NOT AT ALL related to the where the baby was born...but that was only mentioned in brief 6 paragraphs after initially mentioning it).
they went onto say that all HBACs and breech births performed at home end up only at the coroners!!! they actually said that!!! LIES DAMN LIES. the fact is that study after study has shown the there is NO difference to maternal OR neonate rates of death or injury between HB and hospital. the ONLY difference being that a baby (and the mother) born to a family at home has MUCH better outcomes in terms of lower intervention, BF and bonding postnatally. I know that i am preaching to the converted and women that have done their research ('cause most ppl that do the research come to the conclusion that HB is a great option) but i am (in PZs term ) ragey lol.

I'll hunt down a link...i read it in hardcopy at the cafe.