arte: you know what though, if you do labour at night and the kids are awake...well, really, no biggie. get them up, let them watch (i am sure W would be totally into the facts and figures lol). i thought that having L there would be offputting or that i would get distracted or cross with her, but the opposite was true...it was a blessing to be able to share that with her (in early labour reading her stories etc) and then during the more intense stuff having her sit there watching or every now and then rubbing my back. she still talks about it with love....just a thought.