AF arriving mid TWW during first IVF

[tk1999]

My best friend and her DH just went through their first IVF cycle and I believe have had a BFN... my friend is not contactable at the moment and I am not wanting to push the issue.

She had a FET around the 19th April 2010 and was due to have her BT on the 2nd May 2010 but on 6DPT she started bleeding - at first we thought she may have scratched herself with the gel applicator but it got heavier and she had some pain. She rang the clinic on Sunday and they asked her to go for a BT on Tuesday (which was yesterday) and I have not been able to contact her since.

I just don't understand what is going on - any advice or clarifications would be greatly appreciated.

What are the chances of a BT showing something at 8DPT?

[onthefly]

Oh your poor friend
In theory a bfp could show up this early, but it doesn't sound too promising - she probably just needs some space at the moment.

If this is her first cycle (or FET?) then it may be that they need to change her meds/dosages for extra luteal support, or something like that.

[tk1999]

Thank you Marcellus - yep this is their first IVF cycle and FET. Even though my logical brain knows that first IVF cycles are often the trial cycle and working out what works for the couple but my emotional brain can't help but wonder why it couldn't be the fairytale first cycle.

Thanks to the info on BB and the wonderful BBers... I feel better able to support her and understand what is going on.

[briggsy's girl]

was it an embryo transfer immediately after a stim cycle and egg pick up, or did she have her embryo's frozen and then have it transferred later

the reason i ask is that i've observed with a lot of the long termers that it is common for AF to arrive early immediately following a stim cycle. from what i can gather, the progesterone levels in the crinone gel just don't seem to be enough to help immediately following the stim cycle. there are many many positive results, but those that haven't work seem to get AF earlier - i know i got mine at 10dpo after the stim cycle in which i went for EPU

if her AF has arrived, she will be grieving and trying to pick up the pieces. when she makes contact, continue to be the amazing supportive friend you are being right now. if she goes back for an FET in a couple of months, the hormones used are different and they may increase progesterone during the TWW to help her

hugs to your friend, and to you - you're being a great support

BG

[onthefly]

Just being pedantic, but FET means a frozen embryo transfer, so it wouldn't be their first cycle.

But yeah, what BW said.

[briggsy's girl]

that's why i asked marcellus - in case there was a miscommunication between what was happening with the friends and the terminology tk was using!

[Hollybolly]

Just seconding everything BG has said

I always had trouble with all of my cycles with AF arriving too early in the 2ww... it was all due to progesterone issues... my body just needed more than the average girl doing a cycle does.

Once my FS figured this out, he gave me the right dose & this cycle was our first successful one (being our 6th stim).

TK, you're being a wonderful friend right now, and speaking from experience as having been where your friend is right now - there's nothing more you can do right now, she just needs the time to grieve & pull herself back together

When she pulls herself back up again, she'll need you, she's very lucky to have a friend like you with so much empathy xxx

[sevie]

Hi, just in case, I thought I'd mention that I had an implantantion bleed on d6po. It was my 4th Ivf stim attempt and I stayed pregnant for 12 wks....it was such a great time. Can I just make a suggestion? Please maybe be more pushy than not with your friend if it is bad news...contact her regularly...as my friend called it on one of her sweet messages- 'Hi, it's just your friendly neighbourhood stalker!'...that's a friend that grits her teeth and helps her friend through grief! (my only friend that had that nerve and guts!)
Be brave, and sqeeeze her tight when you hug.
good luck