I definitely feel your pain elarwood & Emma. You've both got a quite a few though & remember it only takes one! Remind me of that when I find myself in the same boat next week :)
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I definitely feel your pain elarwood & Emma. You've both got a quite a few though & remember it only takes one! Remind me of that when I find myself in the same boat next week :)
Out of 9 embryos PGD tested, only 1 was normal.
I have had that transferred, but nothing in the freezer.
I'm trying to stay positive, but I'm devastated :-(
Wishing you all the best Emma! I know its hard but try to stay positive. They are the kind of odds I've had in the past. Definitely hard though, you put so much into this journey & our bodies don't seem to want to play the game. Thinking of you & hoping it all goes well xxx
Sorry girls I haven't been keeping up with this thread but I just wanted to say Emma I got 1 good from 10 tested and was quoted an implantation rate of 70% with a normal embryo, he stuck and is now nearly 4 months old, it's a lot of pressure on you but I'll be thinking of you.
Stalking you joe
Hi everyone else
Emma - sorry to hear there was only the one. I don't blame you for feeling disappointed - especially with your age you should have more! I truly hope it's the one for you. As long as you don't have any implantation issues it should work!
Penny - when's beta? Still BFP on POAS?
They biopsied 11 embryos yesterday - transfer hopefully tomorrow as long as we have more than 3 that are 'normal'. Because of my immune issues we aren't sure we should go ahead with transfer without the LIT treatment as we have 50:50 chance it will be a matching embryo & my body will reject it. We will see.
Thanks everyone :hug:
I'm feeling a little better today, I realised that had we not done the testing, I would have been t/fering these embryos that never would have stuck....
Whilst I'm sad about 10k ++ for 1 embryo, imagine the money I would have spent on FET's.
That's certainly true & why we do the CGH - we get quite a few blasts but have low % of normals so it saves time & money. However, Emma I'm a little concerned as to why you only got 1 that was normal. Surely with your age you would expect more to be normal, unless you or DH have a translocation etc Does your FS have any ideas as to why you only got the one?
Results in for us tomorrow - and deciding then if we will transfer. If we get 40% again then we should have 4 or 5 normals. But as we all know too well there are no guarantees and can't get our hopes up!
FS said that the embryos all had different problems, and that they are 'one' off issues.
I was really upset (crying etc) so not sure if I got all the info.
Apparently I get something in the mail, telling me all about it.
Best of luck Elarwood!
Emma, As far as I know, they expect about half of the embryos to have problems so that's really disappointing you had so many abnormals! But it only takes the one - getting the one gives you an excellent shot! Happy 2ww!
AFM - 5 out of 11 were normal! We are ecstatic again. I've always felt its not our embryo quality. Transferred one 6AB. Wish I didn't have immune problems! Knowing we have half of the 70% chance of it working is nerve wrecking. However, we are so glad to have 4 others to work with for the immune treatment. I am praying we won't have to go that far. 2ww! argh!
Just popping in to add we were told to expect around 60-70% abnormals. I imagine FS's quote differing percentages depending on the couples individual issues. We were in the unexplained category but had already had 2 miscarriages, a chemical & 7 bfn's by the time we got to pgd, so this history might've lowered the expected amount of normals for us. I was 34 (not that old for Ivf...) when I did PGD & out of 7 biopsied, 2 were normal. Personally I was very happy with this result & it fell within the expected 30-40%.
Age plays a big part, but other factors such as sperm health & quality of sample on the day play an important part too. Not to mention luck. : )
Emma - I hope your one precious little embryo is snuggled in nice & tight. Xx
Elarwood - Congrats on your 5 normals, an amazing result. : )
They are awesome results elarwood! All the best for your tww xx
Epu booked for Monday morning. Thinking it has all caught up with me now. Feeling very flat & woke up crying my eyes out this morning. Had a dream that for the epu they wouldn't put me under & all I could see was my belly expanding with air like a massive balloon & then they found no eggs. Hopefully not an omen for things to come! Literally putting all my eggs in the one basket for this one last try. All this after being told that the head specialist is going to be doing my procedure. Hopefully just over thinking it all. Trying to take it easy too!
First time ivf and doing ICSI and pgd. Been stimming for 13 days and I'm a mess emotionally! Don't feel like I can get support from anyone for this process because I'm not infertile but choosing to do ivf with pgd to reduce chances of a medical condition.
So hard going through this alone and stressing so much! Looks like I only have 8 follicles growing. Anybody else go successfully through pgd for gender selection with so few follicles? Hoping egg collection is next week because my tummy needs a break from being a pin cushion!!
Welcome waitingforthird :) ivf is definitely a very isolating experience but hopefully you will get the support you need here. Feel free to ask as many Q's as you need as we all know what you are going through :)
My background. We are doing pgd for a known medical condition however its not gender specific but has a 50/50 chance of being affected. My scans have showed 8-10 follies also. We were very lucky on our first cycle to have our DD who is now 5.5yo. Trying for #2 however has not been as easy :( very emotionally & physically draining.
Hoping you get to egg collection early next week, those needles do become second nature after a while though
Just triggered...here goes nothing!!!
Thanks Joe for your support! I'm getting so nervous and not feeling confident reading in all these forums. I thought my chances of this working were better than it seems they actually are. Trying to stay positive but it's so hard when you know it's a numbers game and starting at 8 follicles doesn't sound great to me! :(
Wishing you all the very best luck...keep me posted!! :)
Waitingforathird welcome :) I had my little boy nearly 4 months ago after having 5 miscarriages between my last child and this bubba, I only got 1 normal embryo out of 14 tested (over 3 pgd cycles).
Joe: fingers crossed for you tomorrow, I hope epu goes well
Glad you had success Minnie but gosh the thought of having to go through 3 cycles scares me. Plus it's so much money! How many cycles of ivf do Medicare give you rebate for? Wish they would cover pgd
I don't think there is a limit of cycles for Medicare, the first cycle puts you over the Medicare limit for the year so every cycle after that you get more back than the first (until the end of the year). Would be good if pgd was covered because I believe it saves a lot of money on FET's.
Don't my disheartened, my results were particularly bad, I'm 40 now too which didn't help
Oh so glad Medicare doesn't have a limit! Not sure why I thought they did. I know I have age on my side but really thought having 2 kids naturally and being only 31 that I would have more follicles than 8! Ok I'm going to choose to start ignoring that number and stay positive and focus on only needing one correct female embryo and that definitely could be in that 8...fingers crossed!!!
Joe - wishing you all the best for EPU tomorrow - lots of healthy eggs!! Have everything crossed for you. What a terrible dream! I'm sure everything will go well.
Welcome waitingforthird- IVF for the first time is a very daunting experience but the forums are fantastic for support. Hopefully you will only have to do the one cycle - being 31 does help & the fact you've had 2 natural births but with the genetic testing its a numbers game.
I was lucky enough to get DD on my very first cycle/transfer 3 years ago but since then have done 6 Egg pick up cycles & 3 frozen cycles. I am also 31 & started TTC at 28. Like Joe, never knew it would take this long for us either. But the end result will be worth it & you somehow find the strength to keep going. I've also had 3 miscarriages & an ectopic but these were to do with immune issues that we just found out about. Perhaps if that wasn't our issue it may have worked cycles ago.
To be honest it is an emotional draining roller coaster ride & I truly hope it's a short one for you. All the best for lots of eggs on pick up & a pgd result you're after. You never know, could be beginners luck!
Well 14 days of stimming and find out today they are cancelling cycle. So disappointed. But glad they recognised that for me with pgd for gender selection 2 mature follicles (not 8 like I originally thought!!) was just not enough. So cancelling and next round increasing gonal f (was only on 150 this round).
:(
So sorry your cycle got cancelled waitingforthird. Probably best given the circumstance though. PGD is definitely a numbers game :( Often 1st cycles are cancelled as the dr's try to work out best level of stim. Best of luck for your next cycle xx
What a day! Traffic was chaotic & arrived 20 min late! Hate driving to Sydney in morning peak. Not great for my anxiety levels. Burst into tears before I had even set foot in the clinic. Still had to wait another 30min before going in which didn't make me happy either. Dr H was a hoot though (had never even seen him before) & went to sleep laughing my head off :) Pity I woke up balling my eyes though. Gotta love these hormones! Managed to get 6 eggs which apparently everyone else is really happy with. Personally would have loved a few more though. Good part is they were all mature & able to be icsi'd. Won't know fert rates until tomorrow. It has knocked me for 6 though. Feeling very sore & sorry for myself. Will definitely be early to bed tonight! Need plenty of rest & luckily am only working 4 hour days at the moment
Wow sounds like an intense day for you! 6 for ICSI sounds like a good amount but I guess we always hope for more! Fingers crossed it all goes well. Rest up! Xo
Waitingforthird - so sorry to hear your cycle was cancelled. It's disappointing but like Joe said its a numbers game & the first cycle is usually trial & error. When can you cycle again?
Joe - what a terrible start for the day for you! Great news on all 6 being mature & ICSI'd. I have everything crossed for you that all fertilize & continue to grow strong :-) drink lots of powerade, pear juice & sustagen. From past experiences of 7 pick ups & 3 laparoscopies I always make sure they give me awesome pain meds in recovery. I keep saying I'm in alot of pain when really its bearable so they give me more. I recover so much quicker when this happens. Hope you sleep well & wake up to good news in the morning :-)
Had second intralipids today - hoping it will be enough to lower nk cells & it's a non-matching embryo.
Thanks Elarwood! I have no idea what any of what you wrote about your procedure is but I hope it goes well! I'll find out tomorrow when I can cycle next. Hoping next month but they may make me wait until the following month :(
So we got 4 of the 6 fertilised & they said they all looked good. Other 2 were clearly abnormal. Never had that, just haven't all fertilised before ?? Taking one out from the freezer tomorrow so hoping all 5 will make it to testing. Still feeling a bit sore but trying not to stress about the numbers. Nothing I can really do about it anyway :)
Good luck! I just found out I can start next cycle so very happy about that :)
Fantastic news waitingforthird - waiting is the worst bit so that's great you can start again now.
Joe - do all of your eggs usually fertilize? 4 out of 6 is good fertilization rate but I know that 6 plus the frozen embryo would be even better. Grow embies grow!!! Sending good vibes :-) the waiting is torture!
Finally was able to book the LIT treatment for 25 feb - hopefully wont be needing it but its so hard to get these things booked in. Beta is on 22nd & LIT is on 25th so not a lot of time to organise flights accom etc if we do have to go.
How are you travelling elarwood? Also hoping you won't need your next treatment date xx
Our frozen embie thawed! YEAH!!! Will find out tomorrow if all 5 make it to biopsy FX :)
My fert rates previously have been 8/9, 8/9 & 2/3 so I guess 4/6 is about the same. Of course would have preferred them all to fert. Of those only 5/6, 4/6 & 1/1 have made it to biopsy. Normals from PGD have been 2, 1 & ?. These have resulted in DD5, m/c @ 9 wks & mm/c @ 5.5 wks. So looking at the numbers, it doesn't look good. Damn those dominate mutations! Am certainly trying to stay positive though :)
Joe, I have everything crossed for you hun xxx
...and then there were 3 :(
Not looking too good. Of the 4 freshies, 2 were @ the 8 cell stage & 2 were still only at the 3 cell stage. The thawed one is lagging a little @ 5 cell stage but they still biopsied this one with the 2 at the 8 cell stage.
Won't get results until just before transfer on Saturday (if there will be one!)
Wish me luck...I think I'm going to need it xx
Crossing everything for you. Xx
Good luck!!!
Oh Joe - it's such a tough wait & so unfair. I have everything crossed for you that your 3 embies are normal!! I'm sure you've heard this before, but it only takes one. We always love a few back ups though!! Good luck - thinking of you.
Almost half way through TWW - nothing to report other than a very bloated belly still & the steroids are keeping me awake :-( I don't bother with signs or symptoms as for me they mean nothing!
Best of luck Joe.
Tested at 8dp5dt..... BFN.
Not even a squinter.
Think I'm out :(
Blood this morning.... I'm guessing too late for implantation bleeding.
After 3 x stim cycles, 6 embryo transfers, 1 PGD tested embryo transfer- we are broke and out of options.
Devastated :(
I'm so sorry, Emma. : (
Oh Emma...feeling for you, big hugs xx there really are no words that would even do justice to how you must be feeling :( just know we are all here for you.
One of my friends said "life & science just suck sometimes!"
Think she may be right...
And as I posted that, the clinic called to say that of the 3 sent for testing, 2 were positive for HD & other had chromosomal abnormalities...
So now I know exactly how you feel Emma :(
Over & out for us...pure devastation!
Thank you to you all for your love & support during this journey xxx
Joe & Emma :hug: for you, so sorry you are bleeding Emma & joespratt it's so tough to have nothing to transfer :(
I'm sorry, joe. I don't really know what to say. It's just unfair. : (