300 is awesome! Maybe your lucky last cycle is giving you two? FX for you and all the sticky vibes in the world.
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300 is awesome! Maybe your lucky last cycle is giving you two? FX for you and all the sticky vibes in the world.
Oh yeah, tested this morning....BFN. I am definitely out.
Ahhhh well, busily stuffing myself with protein and supplements in the hope it will help next time.
Hope everyone else is well x
I don't know why, but you are the BB poster I stalk most and think of most, and everytime you get a BFN I hurt for you so much. So so so sorry N2L :(. Big hugs and know I am always thinking of you and hoping for a miracle.:
Well, thanks for making me cry M!!! lol... I was fine til I read your post :p
It's okay. Faith and prayers and miracles is about all I have left right now so I appreciate any you can offer up for me.
Many many thanks for your lovely words. I will be okay. I will watch an episode of One Born Every Minute and have a huge sob and get it all out at once.
Thing is, I already knew it hadn't worked. I just tested to put the last nail in the coffin. Don't know why...I am masochistic I guess. Still, I would much, much rather find out from a test at home than a phone call from a stranger. I have absolutely no control over this situation, but that's one thing I can control...
Like I said, all I can do is keep going....
Fantastic numbers Melissa, yoiu 're on to a winner there x
N2l- sorry the poas don't give you any joy, stupid things!!! They should be blown up, well the negative ones anyway lol. I agree with knowing before the BT, I really hope theres still a surprise for you but we do know our bodies back to front these days, so the instinct is porbably right. So sorry for you and DH. xx
Nothing from me of course, its going to be a long week I think!
N2L - awwwwww big hugs to you, sweetie. I am sorry :(. I hope you have had your giant big cry and a nice little scoff of chocolate to make yourself feel a little bit better. You always do amaze me with your strength to pick yourself up and do back to back cycles - I honestly don't know if I could've done that. Good things have to come to those who wait and I think you have waited far too long already. What is your plan now?
Saff - I pretty much had cramps most days from transfer so I am quietly hoping that yours are onto something. When is your BT?
Maruschke - thanks so much hon. Yeah, I was quite surprised with my numbers so maybe we may be in luck and two cooking. How is your cycle going - you must be about at the business end of stims? Good luck to you chick.
Thanks for all your kind words, lovelies! It has been sooooo nice to be able to give immediate family good news for a change :)When the clinic rang today, they were so excited, all the nurses there wanted to talk to me and they were going to ring the one on a day off to tell her which was nice but I have to go and see them tomorrow to get another bt form so am guessing will be getting a few hugs as well. I have often wondered how much their jobs must suck having to give people bad news too often but I guess days like this make it all worth it.
If you girls don't mind, can I hang around until I've had my next bt? You can't get rid of me easily though cos I will definitely be stalky stalking ;)
N2L- are you BTing today? Any signs of AF? How are the supplements going? :hug: Presuming theres no surprises coming in the BT, once AF comes I find I feel better, its just the days before her arrival its the pits. I know i told you off for proclaiming you were out on 11dpo but :redface: I'm about to do the same thing- you can tell me off too :lol:
Melissa- feel free to hang around with us for as long as you want, we need heroes to worship :clap: Have you got any symptoms yet? i think mine last tiem took until 5 wks to kick in. Have you got a ticker yet? Wishing you the most boring, normal 9 months ever- you deserve it!! Glad the clinic were celebrating!
hi maruschke- good luck for scan today, hope your EPU is on track! :goodluck:
afm- well, 6dpo5dt and getting big fat bfn still, no symptoms, so starting to accept I will be doing another FET next month, at least i will get a break from clexane which has turned my stomach black and blue, running out of room for spots to jab!
Hi all :)
Just sticking my head in quickly. Not much to report....Had blood test this arvo. Just a formality really. Will get the official result tomorrow. I stopped the clexane and pessaries a couple of days ago so should get AF any day.
Still supplement stuffing, as well as eating protein galore. I bought some whey powder today so protein shakes here we come!
I would love to be able to wait for a month or two but I guess I will go straighten to another stim cycle....
Hope everyone is well x
Ps. Saffy, 11dpo is faaaaar too early to test :p ;) :lol:
Official BFN today in the form of phone call from clinic. Got my period overnight so today I am CD1.
I just had my first dose of a uterine tonic prescribed by the naturopath....BLUUUCCCGGHHHH :( :(
Gimme an injection any day ;) :p
So here is my new daily regime -
30 gm of protein included in each meal
Low gi carbs
1 multivitamin with selenium (from naturopath)
2 high strength coq10
4 high strength fish oil
5 vitamin d tabs (will drop this down to 2 when my levels improve)
2 royal jelly caps
Berocca performance
2 anthogenol tabs (grape seed extract)
1500 mg metformin
Lecithin
20 ml uterine tonic
Hopefully it will help...
Oh yeah, DP has started on the menevit again.
Hope everyone is well xxxx
N2L - :hug: to you hon. Sounds like you have an awesome plan in place for the next few months though - go you! Ugh, those naturopath concoctions are FOUL! I got one for DH when we found out the extent of his swimmer quality. I think he had one dose and refused to take more. While I religiously downed my nasty, rotten one twice day. We are soooo much tougher than guys :) Holy crap, girl - you are one tough cookie - fingers, toes and everything is crossed that everything you are doing now makes a huge difference.
Saffy - yeah Saffy, 11dpo is wayy too early ;). Is the clexane really ouchy? Call me really really weird, but I was always quite proud of my bruises!!!!!! My little battlescars, I guess! DH did my jabs so its not like I was going out of my way to get them cos that really would be weird :p. I have a few little symptoms now - I am like a little pig cos I want to eat all day long (and the worst part is, I keep telling myself I can eat a bit more now, so I will be as fat as a pig before long!!!!!), boobies are getting sorer by the day and am soooooo tired. I'm quite literally either sleeping the whole way home (1hr) or falling asleep at 8pm. BUT, bring on the symptoms, I CAN"T WAIT!!!!!
Me - 2nd bt tomorrow. I actually feel really relaxed about it so I'm hoping my subconscious knows what its talking about and my numbers will be rising nicely
XXX
Thanks Melissa!
Hoping the supplements will help too! Can you remember what was in your uterine tonic? Did it help?
Make sure you update us on your BT tomorrow! Good luck x
n2L- sorry Af appeared abut at least you can move on now and get into tip top shape for your upcoming bfp! I will be following your lead when I do a stim. xx
melissa- great symptoms! Very reassuring. BT will go well i can feel it! We will see you soon in palttc thread lol. Yers my clexane spots hurt, i have massive bruises covering my stomach and they are sore to touch- bugger. What dose were you on?
afm- still bfn so resigned to AF arriving this weekend, had heaps of cramping last night at work all night so AF can come NOW please and put me out of my misery! I am dreading Af, will she we be heavier due to the aspirin/clexane? I really hope not. What was yours like N2L? At least i got my medicare refund so we can afford another FET. Have a great day everyone!
Hey hey, sorry we were out really late last night and am feeling it today. We went to a concert which was great but boy, did I struggle!! I've been having snoozes late afternoon/early evening which I missed out on and there were times during the night where I just wanted to rest my head on DH's shoulder and sleep!! HCG yesterday was 1340 so has a doubling time of about 44 hours so everything in me is crossed hoping that keeps up. I work in the lab where we do all the hcg, E2 etc etc and I was actually going to go and get bloods done every few days on the quiet but in actual fact, I think that knowing the exact numbers will stress me out more than wondering what they are. So now, just need to hold it together until our scan on December 15th. Don't get me wrong, I am so soooo thrilled that this has worked thus far, but I hate the fact that past experiences make you assume the worst will happen. Must keep thinking positive, must keep thinking positive!! At the moment, I feel in limbo cos I am too scared to go across to a pg group but figure I should enjoy this as whatever comes, it will be my last chance for this.
N2L - I can't exactly remember what was in my tonic, just that it tasted absolutely FOUL!! From memory, it had liquorice, chaste tree, something to do with paeony and several other evil tasting things!! How about yours? Knock it back chick - it will do you wonders!!!
Saff - I was never on clexane, just aspirin, thank goodness. Not big on the idea of another needle and that one doesn't sound nice! Ahhhh, crap to being sure AF arrives - rotten nasty b!tch that she is :(
I think I am going to lay low for a bit but I am so going to be stalking you girls. I can't wait for us all to be in the palttc group together - bring it on. Good luck, chickies, may this next cycle be the ultimate one for you both:grouphug:
Hey Melissa!
My uterine tonic is 20ml a day of -
Si wu tang
Rehmannia glutinosa
Glycyrrhiza glabra
Lovely! Not :lol:
This made me laugh... hope you will too.....
I found this on my google travels...
When Mattel were looking to design their new Barbie, IVF Barbie, they soon realized that there was not one universal Barbie that would accurately portray the spirit of IVF Barbie. So they decided they would come out with a few variations thereof.
Newbie Barbie:
Newbie Barbie, also known as BabyDust Barbie is a bright, perky, Barbie, filled with optimism and confidence that IVF Will Work. She is thinner and usually younger than the other IVF Barbies. Her accessories include rose-tinted spectacles, a positive bank balance, healthy insurance coverage and a million questions. Newbie Barbie has lots of other Newbie Barbie friends and they congratulate each other on a job well done. This Barbie only says pleasant, optimistic things and believes that Attitude is Everything. Their motto is Think Positive!!
Pregnant Newbie Barbie:
Pregnant Newbie Barbie is the big sister to Newbie Barbie. She is still slim, now with a cute belly. She is proof that IVF Does Work, usually the first time. She also comes with rose-tinted spectacles, a positive bank balance (only very slightly depleted) and total confidence that All Will Be OK. She glows when pregnant and liberally uses baby dust when playing with her sisters, the Newbie Barbies. She comes with Very Cute maternity clothes, a double stroller, and a fully decorated nursery even though she is only just a few weeks pregnant. Her motto is ‘See! Thinking Positive Works!!’. Newbie Barbie and Pregnant Newbie Barbies are great playmates and you can collect them as a set.
Joiner Barbie:
Joiner Barbie is cousin to Newbie Barbie and Pregnant Newbie Barbie. Joiner Barbie comes with a group of friends just like her, and this group calls themselves by the name of a furry animal or has reference to a season. Think Spring Blossoms or Bubbly Bunnies. Accessories include a chart or table of some sorts, lots of smiley faces, baby dust (a glitter-like tub of ground up positive attitude that apparently has the power of hocus pocus to make one pg), declarations of eternal friendship and love and lots of ((((hugs)))).
Veteran Barbie:
Veteran Barbies are not at all related to the Barbies above. Veteran Barbies are the Anti-Barbie. They are a whole lot plumper than the Newbie Barbies, less perky (in boobs and attitude), have grayer hair, a largely negative and over-drawn bank balance, plenty of bruises and marks and a slightly cynical attitude. They are dressed in comfy track pants with elasticated waistbands. Their accessories include a wealth of knowledge of reproductive procedures and protocol, the ability to practically do their own cycle, a snarky attitude, little tolerance for stupidity, a well defined sense of humor, the ability to laugh at themselves, a fondness for wine/beer/crack and an aversion to pineapple, baby dust and Newbie Barbies. This aversion in its more severe form can be allergic and acerbic. Veteran Barbies tend to swear quite a bit (especially when playing in the Barbie House with Newbie Barbies and Pregnant Newbie Barbies) and parental guidance is advised.
Pregnant Veteran Barbie:
Very similar to Veteran Barbie, only now with an added dose of neuroses and paranoia. Continuously and obsessively over-analyses every twinge, convinced that the end is nigh. Only buys stroller and decorates nursery when in eighth month. Accessories include disbelief and a sense of not quite belonging, and 10 home pregnancy tests just in case the first one was faulty or the clinic made a mistake with her beta. Pregnant Veteran Barbies have been known to pee on the sticks up until the day before giving birth just to see the two lines.
Celebrity IVF Barbie:
Celeb Barbie comes in two versions: Denial Celeb Barbie and Out of the Closet IVF Barbie. Denial Celeb Barbie does not play with the other Barbies and pretends not to be an IVF Barbie at all. She drops the IVF part of her name and thinks ‘Donor Eggs’ is a swear word. She pretends that her twins at age 49 are Natural and she did it all On Her Own. She also claims her boobs are her own and that she has never had a face lift, hence her credibility is not at an all time high. Out of the Closet IVF Barbie is the preferred Barbie. We like her.
IVF Ken:
Ken is a ****3r. Sorry to sound so harsh, but besides being a ****3r there is very little that Ken does in IVF land. Sometimes Ken administers shots, hands out tissues and occasionally accompanies the Barbies to their Dr’s visits (normally during the first few cycles only), but mostly he is just a ****3r. If you choose an IVF Ken, then try and get one that also cooks or does DIY. Otherwise just sit him down in front of your Barbie TV and let him know when it is time for him to do his, um, contribution. Mostly the Barbies love their Kens, unless Ken is being particularly insensitive or obnoxious, then he becomes a ****3r in all senses of the word. Some IVF Barbies don’t even have a Ken and they do just fine. If you do find a good Ken, hang on to him, don’t swap him with your other friends.
FS Ken:
FS Ken is the all knowing, all seeing Ken. He might be a ****3r, or not, but here we are talking about being a ****3r in the figurative sense. He could also be very nice. He may call you by your first name but you may only call him Doctor. His accessories are many and wonderful. He comes with a zooty new car (normally very expensive), a smart house, a very healthy bank balance and a holiday home or two. FS Ken knows every thing and is considered second only to God. Some FS Kens are kind, some are not. They are all rich. Ken’s office is filled with fun toys like ultra sound machines, dildo like probes, waiting rooms filled with the different types of Barbies (some annoyingly come with miniature Barbies or Kens in tow), medicines, procedures rooms etc. FS Ken also comes with a free Nurse (Ratchet) Barbie, who will not return your calls, will hand out annoying platitudes and generally add to your frustration levels. When purchasing FS Ken you will get Ultrasound Ken and BloodDrawer Ken. Unfortunately they come as a package deal and you are not able to get FS Ken without them, they aren’t as much fun. However, you will need a FS Ken if you are going to play the IVF Barbie game.
Mattel foresee a big demand for these Barbies and say that for extra fun and lively interaction, collect the full set of IVF Barbies, put them in the Barbie house together and see the sparks fly.
I hope this puts a smile on your faces....
thats great!! , unfortunately I know which one i am and don't have to tell you all in here :rofl:
I'm guessing it's the same one as me (VB :p) :rofl:
Hugs to all the VB's :grouphug: that was awesome :lol:.
veteren barbie just got AF , where's that crack?
Saffy from one VB to another sorry AF came :(
Sorry Saffy :(
:grouphug:
Its ok, I was feral with pmt yesterday but feel better now AF has come. Poor DH is upset though I didn't tell him I was testing ( he doesn't like me to) so it was a shock to him but i had tried to prepare him yesterday. He thinks it didn't work cos i was negative about this cycle...sigh...if only it worked that way!
Anyway I can't even drown my sorrows in alcohol cos I am on nightshift for the next few nights. ALso, my next AF is due xmas day- GREAT!!!
Hi girls,
Melissa- hows things going? i hope all is lovely in your world, you deserve it xx
N2L-hows the supplement stuffing going? Do you feel any healthier? I'm already getting into christmas goodies so I will find it hard this time of year to have a good diet. Probably should recommence royaljelly now if I am probably doing a stim early next year. I went to buy some coq10, its so expensive! So will have to wait until my next pay ( we are povo at the moment due to a number of factors) but i am keen ot get onto your regime. Hope oyu are feeling ok and getting positive for a successful cycle next time. I really hope we are preggers together.
Hi Marushke and Joeve xx
AFM- CD5, taking letrazole, and scan next week. Having the 'wake in the middle of the night' panic about never having a child, what am I doing I'm nearly 40 its never going to happen, why am i bothering I've missed my chance, etc etc. I'm trying to stay positive but its getting harder and harder I suppose....I jut want it to happen now.
Saff - hang in there hun. I know just how much it REALLY hurt and p!ssed me off when people would say it to me but hang in there. While I know I do have a few more years on my side, I had honestly really and truly given up on it happening for us because we just had so many medical issues that it seemed impossible. I was having session after session of counselling because I was trying to prepare myself for the cycle failing, knowing that we were done after that and I was so scared that I was going to go to pieces. I was at pretty much an all time low during this last cycle. You are addressing your immune issues now being on clexane, so that shouldn't be an issue now so (tell me to shut up, totally won't be offended) please, please keep believing it can happen - this is coming from me, I am proof that it can - DH and I were such reproductive losers that even our FS had all but given up on us!!!! Thinking of you chick and hoping like mad that your little sticky one is just around the corner :hug:
N2L - cracked up at your Barbie post cos I think the PVB is based on me! Paranoid much? Yes - rang up the clinic in hysterics on Wednesday cos I was sure it was all over. There was absolutely no reason for me to think this but it is definitely that sense of not believing so just waiting for something to go wrong. All is good and numbers right where they should be but I freaked. How is your delightful tonic going? Are you straight back into another stim cycle? :crossfingers: that it is finally your time :)
thanks melissa I'm not offended or upset at all, need a pep talk now and then, thanks xx
Hiya all,
Lovely to hear from you Melissa! Even better to hear everything is going so well :) I was thinking the other day that if I am ever likely to get UTD I will be an absolute basket case!!!! It freaks me out even thinking about it! DP and I decided not to do a stim cycle straight away. Well, he did more than I ;) He didn't want a potential (probable) BFN ruining Christmas. We have a gazillion people here for lunch and his work is extremely busy in the lead up to Christmas so he thought it would be best to wait. I begrudgingly agree with him. Anyway, I am CD 10 today so I am hoping for a natural Christmas miracle. And it would be a miracle!!! If not, we might still try to fit a stim cycle in by the end of the year. If we start our drugs by December 31, we are still covered by our Medicare threshold. It will save us a couple of thousand dollars as opposed to doing it in January. All that needs to happen is my body to cooperate :rofl: Yeah, right...
Hiya Saff! Speaking of Christmas miracles, I pray you get yours. I really, really, really hope this is your time sweetie x
Imagine if we all ended up being PVBs together :o What a basket of neuroses and anxiety that would be :lol: Oh God, how I wish we could be!
Not much happening here. Still supplement stuffing. Missed last night though because DP and I went to see the Foo Fighters in concert. Just couldnt be stuffed with the routine when i got home. Oh well, one night wont hurt I guess. I also have DP back on the menevit. It's the least he can bloody do :lol:
So this month we will go all out with trying naturally. It's almost pointless. Hasn't worked so far...I have no idea why we can't get pregnant. It just freakin' sucks :( :(
Sorry for the pity party. I think I am just tired. Onwards and upwards
take care x
Hi all :)
Not much to report here. Cd 12 and my opk line is almost, but not quite as dark as the control line. I will keep testing but I reckon surge will be tomorrow or Wednesday. Then it's BD city baby!!!
hey N2L, I am hot on your tail. we will be in sync soon. Is this a natural cycle for you?
Had a CD9 scan today and had a massive follie (24mm) so the nurse triggered me on the spot and I am booked in for next Tuesday to transfer my last lonely frosty bub- who better be the lucky last, if it knows whats good for it!!
I will be ovulating Thursday apparently, how did we end up Oing at the same time, I was a week behind you last cycle! I do ovulate early, my body must have wanted to be in a tww with you!
I really need to get some BDing in the next few days, as a back up plan, but Dh and I are ships passing in the night at the moment due to my shifts. Good luck for your Bding N2L..... get jiggy with it baby!
Heya Saff!
Yeah, natural cycle. Not that it is going to work :rolleyes: Will probably do a Stim starting last week of December.
Funny how our cycles are aligning. Perhaps we will get UTD at the same time too!
yep thats a good plan!
Its annoying when you 'know' a natural cycle isn't going to work but miracles happen (esp at christmas) and you have to give it a go or else its definately not going to work.... for some reason....not sure why that is.....but I also don't know how people get pregnant naturally or through IVF so I am in the dark all round!
:dunno: It's a mystery to me too...
At this point in time it seems NOT having sex is probably just as likely to work as doing it every day :rolleyes:
Okay so using seratec opks in my stupidly worthless attempt to get pg naturally this month. Today is cd14.
Anyway, tested Monday and the test line was pretty dark, but not quite as dark as control. Tested yesterday, same result.
Tested today and the line is much fainter :(
I am not sure if it has to do with urine concentration so I will retest in a couple of hours after not drinking or weeing. But the really fricken annoying thing is we BDed on Monday night. All good. We PLANNED to last night but both fell asleep without reaching third base (iykwim) :(
We WILL get one in tonight but I am scared I have missed it. :(
What are the fricken chances....grrrrrrrrrr
Nah, just did another test (one hour and 15 minutes after the first...I was busting!!!) Line still really faint.
Think I have surged. Damn I wish we had BDed last night. Damn DP and his need to sleep!!! :rolleyes: :lol:
Oh well, even though I probably o'ed yesterday, I will jump DP tonight regardless.
Oh yeah, no ewcm to speak of but since starting assisted conception, that has been a little hit and miss *sigh*...
If surge was yesterday then o is probably today get busy!!!
oh my god seretac never worked for me, only ever got. a faint line, don't know why. How annoying, I find the internet cheapy opks didn't ever have a darker line either, just an almost dark line then fainter it is really frustrating, when you miss it. Still time for you n2l.
Posted in the other thread that I got an absolute positive on the opk today (wee must have been too diluted yesterday?), so it looks like a few more nights getting jiggy wid it is in order...
TMI ALERT...
Woo hoo!! Blood tinged EWCM :D :D :D
Ladies and gentlemen...we have ovulation!! :leap:
well done N2l- hope you caught this one.
I ovualted wednesday night, only dtd tues night ( haven't seen DH all week basically) so don't know if it was enough but transfer is next tues os will have to wait for that, was using natural as a back up plan. I was thinking, I wonder how many FET babies are actually a natural conception not the thawed embie, you would never know.
We are almost in sync, see you in the tww!! I won't count mine starting until next week, cos I want to have a couple of drinks tonight at a xmas function, so if I pretend my tww only starts after the transfer then I'm safe to do that lol.
This is a really slack cycle for me, I havent' taken my chinese herbs and I forgot to start my progesterone last night cos i only got home at 1am from cold chisel, was sooo tired, so will start tonight. Naughty me, its too close to xmas, I'm regretting doing it actually cos I havent' been able to concentrate on it at all, but maybe thats a good thing!
Omg hon, how did I miss this! Congratulations beautiful lady.
Nothing new with me, after a gazillion cancelled IVF attempts we had an egg collection in August but after fertilisation all the embryos died. We have just done two rounds of donor insemination, both negative.
So we are out for now. Trying to access donor embryos but nobody seems willing to donate, most people seem to choose to discard instead which is sad. Feeling pretty miserable at e moment. 14 IVF's and 2 IUI's = :-(
Just having a quick little sneak in to say hi - so "HI!!!!"
Bec - giant big :grouphug: to you hunny. I think it is really sad that people do choose to discard their unwanted but perfectly good embryos. Specially when anyone going through ivf knows what a heartwrenching journey it is so if it was possible, wouldn't it make sense to want to try and help someone else? If you were in that position to be able to donate? Hell, if I ever had excess ones (hah, not likely :rolleyes:), I would like to think that I would consider donating them. I hope you can come across some soon, chick - hugs to you
Saff/N2L - how are you my lovelies? Wishing you both huge, enormous truckloads of babydust and stickyvibes and anything else that may bring a lovely little Christmas/New Year miracle
Me - been a stressful week - tomorrow is d-day to see if these little ones survived the dramas of last week. Trying not to think about it lalalalalalalalalal