Long Term Assisted Conception - 2009

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Last appointment with gyno/obs i demanded an appointment with reproductive endo however he would not give me referral to who i wanted to see (someone that actually had the three year reproductive endo qualification on top of everything else) and instead has sent me to just a straight endo.

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MummaW,
Don't stand for that ****e!!! That makes my blood boil, how dare he, you are paying, its your life!!! You could ring the RE you want to see and ask his secretary if they will accept a referral to someone else, (one of my GPs will write the referral to Dear IVF Specialist, or Dear Endocrinologist, & I have had them accepted) if not, ask if they will accept referrral from GP and get it from GP.

My ATA's are (anti thyroid antibodies) wer at Max around 300 (untreated) and have recently dropped to 42 with Thyroxine treatment and I am worried about those! So I would definitely want more info a 1000 result. I have also been taking ****aki pills form np but they only have made a small difference so far.

Yes TSH around 1, found a good endo, had an average one for a while who I thought was good, but by comparison was not! The good endo says TSH around 1.

I am trying to figure out how to start a new post on Thyroid issues in conception, so I can blurb out all the stuff in my head, can anyone help please?

Hi Ladies,

My - we have a been busy...

Sam - I am no expert..but think first u need to go to the Long term TTC in the forums. There you have a choice to 'start thread' I think this is what you want to do.

Mumma - I don't think you can PM yet as I believe you have to post a minimum of 20 times before you gain access to PM's..... someone..please correct me if I am wrong.

Meredith - your levels are sounding really good. Mine have started s l o w l y as usual. It always takes this old body time. First BT for me after 5 days of FSH was 545 - I get up there eventually. Another BT and first scan tomorrow. How many days down are you?

Molly - you poor thing. You really need to open that floodgate and let it out. It will stop eventually..but let it out girl. I went for a session yesterday into the 'crying room' as I call it. Basically I go into see the councillor and cry for an hour. I don't have a huge amount of support so she gets it and laps it up.

Hope - how did you go with the FS today?

Loula - hope the AP can help..

Thanks for everyones help! :clap:

I live in Toowoomba and there is only one fertility specialist that does AI and IVF etc (he is part of QFG) and cos of this monopoly i kind of have to stick with him as we are about to start AI and i don't want to be travelling 2 hours to Brisbane a couple of times each cycle if i dump him and go with someone else.

I'l see what the straight endo has to say and if I'm not happy il get my GP to give me a referral to whom i want to see (both are in Brisbane). :wall:

I want to go into so much depth bout my TSH levels and such but know this is not the thread to do it.....over and out!

Ps: Samandpoppy heres a link to an underactive thyroid thread that needs to be brought back to life! We can do it! lol
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...l-bb-help.html

Hope - clexane is an anticoagulant much like heparin. I have used it due to recurrent m/c's. NO actual diagnosed problem but has been found to help some women presumable because they just have a condition yet to be diagnosed. Also thought to help with implantation. I got my DS on it but have also lost 4 more babies even whilst on it. Hence trying prednisolone now but yet to get pg to see if that will work!

MsPink - wondering where you were at. You are being very quiet! raying all goes well for you tomorrow and there is more eggies than you expect.
I have just done 6th FSH dose. This is another antagonist cycle so always goes pretty quick

S&P - sorry about calling you by your dog's name.. oops! I am a vet so really only know the animals name in most cases anyway - rarely know the owners name. hehe! How did you find Nick? Anything interesting about the colarado protocol?
Where does City fertility do there EPU etc? I am with Monash IVF and have been happy thus far but always interested to hear other options

Another scan and BT tomorrow. Hopefully those eggies are growing nicely

:hello: girls just wanted to pop in and say hi and good luk with everything over the next few weeks :crossfingers:

Thanks for the explanation Meredith re clexane.

Fingers x?ed with prednisolone. Also scan tomorrow and BT, those little eggies should be getting nice and ?ripe?. Its funny how you picture these things in your head. I have quite an animated picture of my ovaries and the follicles with little eggies popping out LOL. When I actually saw real photos of this tho?mmm way off. I still prefer my image tho. LOL. Good luck of course.

MsPink how did you go with your BT?

Mummawannabe, Smithy, Sam hope you are travelling well.

AFM ? well saw the FS and after much discussion (he?s great like that) we decided to stick with the same as previously. So that?s down reg with pill then onto the dreaded Synarel, then puregon etc so a million miles later we?ll have an EPU ahhhh.

I had mentioned wanting to try and ditch the down reg but his theory on sticking with this is that we have had results (although that did include a m/c) with my body responding and my ovaries producing good quality eggs. I am happy with that.
I think the fact that he was happy to discuss it and explain why he wants to stay with the down reg was enough for me to trust his decision.

So I?m CD 18 now, so we wait to the next AF and call the nurses ? then we?ll be on our way YAY. I?m ready for this cycle to begin.

Hope

Meredith - we are almost the same timing. Today is day 8 of FSH for me. BT ok-ish - I take time to get the estrogen levels up. Scan - very average. Could only see 3. Am not going to pass judgement till Friday (next scan) because last time we found a few more the 2nd scan so I am :pray: it will be the same this time.

Hope - I also use Clexane from night of EPU. I have the MTHFR gene (you can imagine what I call it...) This can cause some clotting so FS likes me to use it to ensure nice smooth surface in the uterus. Have not had a pregnancy since I started using it - so dont know for how long. Currently all the way to BT and I would assume beyond should I ever get there..

Hi everyone else..hope you're all well..

Meredith,
Laughed out loud!!! re dog's name and that you are a vet!!!

Best friend been with Dr Nick using down reg colorado every time, including for DD 3 years ago, for about 5 stim cycles last year and is now preg with #2. RE colorado protocol, Dr Nick thinks its a great way to improve egg quality, (the problems either being egg quality, like they are assuming with me, or "oven" problem) Dr David would rather try less "harmful" ways, also np not keen. I think due to prednisolone being a steroid, but seems you only take it for 5 days, so I don't really get what they are on about. Also Dr N says down reg cycle give better quality embryos, so that is interesting. Also it is possible to do down reg with synarel from D21, not the pill, which sounded better to me.

City F does EPU at The Avenue hospital in Windsor.

Good luck for egg growing all girls who are!

opps!

MummaW - i think I have resurrected the Thyroid thread (?)

Ms Pink - thanks for the tip on how to start thread, good growing luck to you

Hope - glad you are happy with your FS appt. Its nice to feel safe in decisions made because you totally trust your Dr. Sounds like its the right choice although the whole pill thing is a real pain. I have never done down reg cycle but have had to use the pill or provera to bring on AF and I hate them... they seem so "anti" TTC IYKWIM.
Hoping the next couple of mths fly by so you can get stuck into cooking up a baby

MsPink - hey cycle buddy. let this be the "lucky" one for us both. Sorry your follie numbers are not ideal but hopefully few more days will do the trick.
Re clexane. I used it with DS until 13-14w but mostly stopped because I was getting a lot of bleeding episodes. If you have diagnosed clotting issues then i think they like you on it until about 36w

S&P - The Avenue is nice - have visted people there a few times.
Are you going to go with Colarado or stick with NP and FS wishes? So hard to know which way to go.
Personally, I have no worries about uing the prednisolone. I am on 20mg daily from start of FSH and will sstay on it until 20w pg ... which is going to happen this time!!!

AFM - mixed feelings about can this morning. Follies are doing as they should. I have a total of about 40 now although most are quite small. Only 4-5 ish between 11-13mm but hoping some more will catch up. My lining, however has barely changed from last scan. now at 4.7mm. Not much more i can do as I am on a whole lot of med to try and help it along and E2 2407 so guess i jut have to pray it gets going soon. Puregon dose being dropped a touch given my high follie number and repeat can on Friday.

Hi Grrrls,
my quick reply button has disappeared, and I have to type a image verification (words into a box) every time now. does anyone know how to solve it?

eg does becoming a member change this?

the forum has some bugs at the moment...we are all getting stuff like that at various times....patience...the poweers that be are working on it!!!

Hi Luvs,
Hope everyone is well.
Just to let you know we are heading off for the long weekend so no internet. For those that have the long weekend I hope you enjoy also, so will be in touch next week. Good luck to the ladies that are growing their eggies. Those waiting for AF I hope she comes. And for the rest of us waiting for our next stim cycle in Feb - BRING IT ON I say....

Cheers Hope

Have a nice w/e Hope

AFM - feeling pretty down about it all today. My follies are going great guns with massive growth over 2 days despite the lowered FSH. I now have about 16 between 12-18mm with most 14-16mm.
My lining, however is terrible - left the u/s in tears over it. Hasn't changed at all in past 2 days and barely at all since first scan.
I have never fallen pg with a lining under 6mm and currently at 4.7mm. Mind you, last cycle was my best ever reaching 7mm and I didn't get pg so who knows if that played any part in previous failures.
Bless my nurse, she knew i would be worried o had already talked to my FS. They are not happy with lining but don't really have any more tricks left to help. Going to try vaginal progynova( oestrogen) but not holding any hope since my E2 is 7000 so doubt adding any more is going to make any difference. They are holding off EPU until tues to try and give it some more time. At least all my follies will be of great maturity ( prob better than last time) but really thinking if it hasn't thickened at all yet, that it prob won't change. I think the chances of getting pg with thin lining is pretty slim and I am sooooooo worried as to why and if it can ever be better. Not much point getting great eggs and embryos if there is no oven in which to bake them. Sorry to be a sad sack but really feeling my dreams slipping further and further away today.

Hugs to you Meredith. I might be wrong but i think i have heard of the little blue pills (Viagra) can help women to build a lining. i think i read this in a UK paper a while ago? will look and google to be sure, and get back to you. x i guess one thing to think about is to go ahead with EPU and hope to fertilise and frees all embies. Then in your next cycle you can concentrate on getting your lining just right. Have you used ap or herbs to help with this? I hope your FS can assist you with getting a positive result soon and start to help you feel a little less stressed with this.

Hope - have a wonderful weekend away, wish i was going somewhere the weather will be beautiful, have fun!

Sam - cant help you with the quick reply button!GL

Its getting a bit quiet in her of late but i guess everyone is making the most of the weather and spending time getting over the silly season! and tired from being back at work!

Have fun and will catch up with you all soon. x

Oh Meredith you poor thing..
Let's look at the bright side...you are doing so brilliantly with the follies - honestly, something that would certainly make me happier as I have the complete opposite problem.
My lining is always great, but so far can only see 4 follies.
My likelyhood of getting embies to the freezer is almost zero, where as you have a huge chance of getting several - hence not going thru another cycle for some time.

I know it is devastating for you... but I guess where we sit right now... we need to look at the positives.. well at least I try to.

In saying that - I really hope they are able to help you increase you lining.. thinking of you and hoping very much it all ends up well.

For those of you in Sydney - how bad is it here today??? Sooooooo hot!!!

Hope you're all enjoying the weekend.

Meredith - my heart goes out to you. Its bad enough that we all have to go through this horrendous journey called IVF but then on top of all that there are added hurdles along the way. It really is not fair! Mu best friend is having similar issues at the moment and i am trying to help her through it. She is doing a FET and when she went for day 12 scan the progynova had done nothing so they then put her on Estrogen patches for a week only to have heartbreak again when the lining was still no good.

Like others have said, hopefully you will be able to get lots of awesome frozen bubs out of this and focus on getting a beautiful lining for a FET.