Long Term Assisted Conception - November 2005 - January 2006

Bee: so glad to hear puppy is doing well. My munchkin (my spoiled cat!) is 16 next year and I can see her starting to slow up a lot now - we've been together for so long I don't know what I'd do without her. Even through this IVF journey, she's always there with a purr when I'm feeling down.

Chris: you do love dogs! If I had a bigger block I think I would have heaps of dogs and cats (not to mention chooks, a lamb or two, rabbits, etc, etc.....!). Are your greyhounds GAP dogs? I have filled my GAP application in but haven't sent it in yet because of all the IVF 'ups and downs'. But I can't wait to get a grey.

My next appointment isn't until mid-Feb so I don't really have much news to post but sending lots of :bdust: to everyone still ttc over the next few weeks.

Marg

Blue, Melbo, Chris and Marg, thank you so much for your thoughts. Non-animal people tend to think you are crazy and I am thrilled that you guys understand. Abbey is maltese cross something and is honey brown with black on her face and tail. I know we are all biased about our own pets but I think she is the most beautiful girl in the world ;) . I tried to attach a little photo in my signature but I can't work out how - maybe we can't. As Melbo said, I wish all of you the one thing you want so much for Christmas, and if Santa is too busy then I hope the new year will bring you all good news. I am enjoying my enforced break from cycling which has probably come at a perfect time. I don't know that I could have ever made the decision to have a break because when I get to the end of a cycle I feel like I am wasting time if I don't start again straight away. I feel very positive about starting again in the new year now that I know it is possible. I hope by the time I have some good news all of you are in the "other" forum (IYKWIM). Have a great day!

PS - Chris, 10 dogs!!!

Bee - I'm so sorry to hear your puppy has been so sick, the poor little sausage! But I'm so glad that she is on the mend and will be right as rain. I'm a HUGE animal lover, so I totally hear what you're saying!

Just FYI, you can't put photos or images in posts, or in your signature. ;) The only things that are allowed are the platinum member avatars, and TTC/Baby tickers. HTH!

Thanks Mel. ... 8-[ I'll just leave her on here for a little bit until I get in trouble...

Bee- Abbey is a beautiful Furbaby -


with hope
Trish

Hi Ladies,

MARGOZ: Dogs have been our life for some time, our dogs are our babies. When you say GAP, are you talking Greyhound Adoption Programme? They are registered for racing with Greyhound Racing Authority in Sydney.

BEE: You are right.. I know some people that would look at me strange when I put my pets on a pedastool and I don’t care what people think… I think its funny because people will talk about their children openly and we will talk about our dogs, like they are children .. Abbey is just beautiful and I love malteses, if we didn’t have enough now, I would get one. They are easy to walk, they are great company and I hope she is all better now.

Bee, what a week for you, pets are like kids, we love them just as much. Most people think that way. It's good to have a pet or two up your sleeve. I know I love mine (personally I'm a cat person, have 2)

Take care

She's very cute Bee, but unfortunately you'll have to remove her from your ticker as we don't allow pictures of animals in the tickers that have photos incorporated as part of the ticker - we are a Conception, PG, Birth and Baby site after all! ;) Hope you understand!

pssst! Bee.... that means you're in trouble, in a very nice way though.
Abbey is very cute ;)

Poor Mel, must be hard for you when you have to lay down the law - don't envy you that job!!!

Ok, I'm officially in trouble now so I'll take her off... 8-[

Agree with Suzi.. Mel must have a hard job. Mel you do it well.

Bee: You got to show your lil furbaby off.. even if it was for little while. She is gorgeous. She must make you proud. Hope she has gotten better.

Suzie: How are you travelling. Hazel looking after you?

MargOZ: Its funny when your pet knows when your feeling down and they try to cheer you up, its so cute. Your cat has had a good life for 16 years. I want a cat. Forbidden in our household. ggrr...

Trish: Hoping you are keeping well.

:hug: to all and hope all is well.


Chris

Hi Chris, how are you old buddy?? I'm good, haven't seen Hazel since the Avon Lady Incident. It's better - much more peaceful now. And, I can open my windows without being smoked out.
The comments you've all made about pets are so true - particularly them understanding human emotions. Our dog went into depression for months after my ex and I split - he kept her (along with the house). On the few occassions I saw her before she died, she'd go berserk when she saw me. But, would just mope about for days after I'd gone. People often forget the animals during a divorce, I really do think there should be custody arrangements for them too!

Awww, thanks guys. I do my best! ;)

Thanks for your co-operation Bee! :)

Suzi

Your not wrong with custody battle..

Glad to hear that you are not smoked out. Sorry i must have missed something re avon lady incident.
I so feel what your saying.. I had a dog (unfortunately jumped over our gate and got run over in Jan), well, when i got run over in 2001 she was fretting and pining for me until i come home from hospital and was at my side every day until I recovered.
I totally agree there should be custody arrangements for pets too.

Chris

Sorry Chris, I thought I'd told you the Avon Lady story.
During the "Hazel, please stop smoking right underneath my open bedroom window" week, we had our final conversation. As you know, I got that BFP on the pee stick on Remembrance Day (evil pee sticks). Then on the 14th I went for my beta. I'd come home and she obviously hadn't heard me. I phoned the clinic and got the <5 beta result. Obviously devastated, I went into my bedroom for a hanky - the blinds were still down. I sat there on my bed listening to her telling the avon lady all about how terrible her family were to her etc etc. Then she started on me. The straw that broke the camel's back you might say! I listened to "all about Sue" for a while then very calmly rolled up the blind, opened the window and said "Hi, Hazel I just heard every word." Closed the window and went and bawled on the lounge. That was just over 4 weeks ago and she's been in hiding ever since. Had to come to a head after 9 months of me being too polite and, in hindsight, I really needed to vent that day. Such is life.

Sue

I am so sorry about that..

You actually got a BFP on a stick.. OMG!!! :o

I am so sorry that it didnt turn out to be a pregnancy for you. :(

If you decide to go back on that track, I pray for a more successful cycle for you. [-o<

Chris

Thanks Chris
But, there are only 2 ways I will get back on that track again. One - if Mr Right waltzes into my life or Two - I win the lottery.
I really need to think of my financial future. I could easily spend more and more money on IVF and, I may end up being successful. But, the odds are that I wouldn't. Then, not only would I be childless, I'd also be penniless. If I had a partner it may be different. But, I don't have anyone to fall back on or share poordom with!!
I really need to focus on other things now - travel being the main one. Can't travel with no pennies!!!
I still have everything crossed for you - I know you'll get there in the end.

Mods I officially qualify for this forum now and would like to add my details please as of tomorrow the below is current.

Name - ~Angel Baby's Mum~ - Chele
State - SA
My Previous Cycle Length - 29
Cycle Type - Natural FET
Months of TTC - 15 Naturally including 3 with Clomid and 13 with IVF includes ~Angel~ and 7 mths Timeout and 2 N - FET's = BFN
Medications - Folate when I remember
Important Dates - 19/12 book on for 3rd N - FET
Extra Info - 2 Snow Bubs to Go for 06

hi Chele

welcome and I hope it is a very short stay for you honey ... [-o<

Sue: Sorry buddy. So true. point taken.

Trish: Hello. Hope all is well.

All added for you Chele. I hope you have a short and sweet stay here.

Chele: welcome and as already mentioned - hope your stay is a short and sweet one. :cheer:

Chris: so you train greyhounds? My family has raced greyhounds for almost the last 20 years (not with much success mind you! LOL!). But I absolutely love the dogs and would love to adopt a retired dog from GAP. I just need to get my yard and fences done up first. My cat actually hates dogs but when she was a kitten I was still living at home and for some reason she tolerated the greys - maybe coz they're usually on a lead and have a muzzle on and she feels a bit safer!

SuziQ: so sorry to hear about your ttc journey. :hug: I'll still keep everything crossed that a special Mr Right will rock up and sweep you off your feet (and hopefully I can find one at the same time!). ;)

Three more days of work and then two weeks of sleeping in! Can't wait!

Take care,
Marg

Hi gorgeous gals...

Well i arrived on the Gold Coast today to stay with mum and dad for christmas... DH remains back at home, as he has to work christmas day... in the 7 years we have been together, we have only ever had 2 chrissy with each other, never mind will save them all for when we have a baby one day.

My mother has me booked into the Sharkeys fertility centre on wednesday next week. I didn't really want to go, but decided, 'oh what the heck what have i to loose' and she is paying for it!!!

My dog flew up here with me today, but i lost it in the terminal after dropping him at the freight centre. The nasty freight handler told me that my kennel cab (freight crate) wasn't airline approoved when i knew it was for both domestic and international travel, and that it was the most well known dog crate around. Then said because it was christmas he would let me off the hook, then abused me for doping my dog, (who is a full on foxie X) and said the vet was stealing my money for the tablets.. yeah like right, they cost me 12 dollars!!! Anyway Wonder Dog arrived safely but a little sleepy, he has been so clingy to me since we arrived.

I find myself these days loosing the plot so quickly and it only takes one little thing to trigger me...

anyway lovely ladies, i hope you all have a top Christmas and may 2006 be the year of the baby for all us gals...

love always

leis xxx

ps suzie, i hope to catch up with you in feb around the 4th, will be down at pt clare, that way i can give you a big hug xxx

Mods can you please update my following details Please

Cycle Type - Natural
Months of TTC - 15 Naturally including 3 with Clomid and 14 with IVF includes ~Angel~ and 7 mths Timeout and 2 N - FET's = BFN
Important Dates - Getting Over Christmas and waiting for Jan AF

Well now have to wait for Jan AF to arrive to do a Feb transfer as this mths AF arrived too early for a Jan transfer ](*,) ](*,) as first one's are only Jan 9th. ARRRRRRRRRRR. I am so frustrated. Also if our 2 snowbubs are not successful and we have to go full on ICSI stim again we are already trying to be prebooked on for this as REPROMED in SA is so busy they are booked up till end of may for Private patients and possibly July/Aug for Public so the earliest we can get in is may and pay the gap of $1500 and be a private patient. DH not impressed with this idea but I really hope I can talk hi around I know it's a lot of money but it's the price we have to pay to have a baby and I would do anything.

Leis good luck with Sharkey's let us know how you go. Mum told me about that but I haven't had time yet to check out their web site. Might be worth a go.

Hope you all have a safe Christmas and New Year and we all get out of here ASAP. I mean that in the nicst possible way. :lol:

Hi ladies,

I hope you all have a wonderful christmas with lots of pressies and food for all.... :lol:

I have just spent the evening looking after my full on neice (3 yrs) and nephew (6 yrs) while their mum and dad, where 'cleaning the house' really putting up the trampolene that 'santa is bringing'... it was flat out .. i don't know how my sister does it!!!

Once they had left and gone back to their own home for the night, i went out the front of my parents house where I am staying and where they will be returning in the morning and made some really groovy reindeer prints with some talcum powder .. no doubt that will get some reaction from the little devils in the morning.. they think that Santa is coming to Carlos my dog... :lol: oh they are to cute.

Maybe one day DH and I will be blessed enough to be running around at midnight christmas eve chewing a carrot, drinking the beer, leaving crumbs on the table and designing our own reindeer prints???? One can only remain hopeful and postive...

All the best my lovely cyber mates....

Love and hugs

Leis xx

oh oh oh :p some good news.... my gorgeous DH just rang to tell me that there are 2 permanent positions becoming available in the Fire Brigade up our way... he is applying for both, this is the best news since I don't know when... This would mean he would be home, 5 nights out of 7 instead of 3 out of 7!!!!! Since we have been TTC he has always been away, hence making things a little difficult in that department... :-k

Oh please God let him get one of these positions.....!!!!

Hope everyone has had a top Christmas day... I am so full i feel sick... take care and be merry..

love leis xxx

Oohh - best of luck for your DH leis. That would definitely help out the TTCing.

I hope everyone had a great Christmas and didn't have to field any insensitive comments from people :D

Leis, that's a great opportunity and I hope your DH is successful. That's going to relieve a lot of pressure I imagine.

Wishing all you lovely ladies a belated merry Christmas and peaceful time with your loved ones.

Love,

Mel

Hi ladies

just posted in lttc and ac, but thought i would pop the post here.

I have my appointment at Sharkeys tomorrow, and I am a little hesitant. I don't really want to go, but mum, DH and my sister are pushing me. I am so over the IVF /TTC scenario, that i have almost talked myself into, "i think i will be ok without kids" oooooooooohhhhhh don't know what to do... head in the sand trick (emu syndrome) maybe if i ignore my infertility it might go away!!!! :rolleyes:

Very much not interested..... I guess i am so sick of dissappointment... and the 'roller coaster'..... sounds rediculous and pathetic i know but I think i am just trying to protect myself from failure....

I feel selfish in a way as many of you ladies have suffered BFN IVF cycles and here I am only undergoing the one, i think it might because I have to have a further lap/hyst and they have found the really weird endo in there... very much over the operations, the one i am having in feb will be number 3 in six months... so yeah i guess i am entitled to feel this way???? :rolleyes:

Ok enough whinging.. I am going to eat something... mmmm christmas chocolates.....

love and hugs

leis xx

Oh Leis, it is so NORMAL to feel that way. Don't you worry. These feelings that you get when you've experienced infertility can be very difficult to shake off, even when you do get that BFP. And I think that with so many operations and procedures, you can start to feel a little like you've been through the wars.

Did you go to Sharkey's in the end? How was it? I did natural fertility management when I just started out (this is before I realised I had endo). I found some of the little dietary adjustments to be really good and the tonic I received did help with my periods immensely.

Let us know how you got on.

Love,

Mel

Hey Melbo

I posted a reply in lttc conception.. sorry to lazy to retype... thanks for your kind words honey, and not long now for you to go hey!!!! Are you feeling the Melbourne summer heat???

love and licks


Leis and Carlos the Wonder Dog xxx

(((( HI LADIES)))))) :grouphug:


LEIS: LMAO @ " yeah like right, they cost me 12 dollars ".

<sticking my head in> I have been too depressed of my BFN and let my hair down on xmas, havent had drink in 3 years and sure as hell made up for it.... I needed it... In new year (new years eve will be big one too) decided I will go on health kick and may start IVF in Feb/March.

Hope everyone is doing really well.. I wish everyone a happy new year. Will be back in early new year to catch up.

PS ANYONE: After this weekend, we are looking at giving our 4 greyhound pups away, if the decision is made to do this, DH and I are wondering, if anyone is interested in any (with no papers). Please email: minmegs @hotmail.com for more details.


LUV CHRIS

I have a ? to ask about assisted conception........
My Dr has given us four more months of TTC naturally before he does an intervention and we consider our options for AC.
We have unexplained infertility, no obvious medical reason for not getting pregnant. We had a m/c this month at 7w2d that was not caused by genetic defects so thats not an issue either.
Im wondering if we should give clomid or something a shot even though I ovulate every month? Its more getting the sperm and egg to fertilise thats the issue. We have been TTC for 18+ months and after the m.c are at our wits end :( I couldnt go another 18 months of nothing!
So any advice on what to try would be good as we need to cover our bases money wise.
Thanks ladies!

Anna,
Good luck with TTC, its hard not to feel the pressure when doctors give you a time line, esp when a MC has happened it tends to throw you around for awhile ( emotionally and cycles)
As for the clomid, my understanding is that it will produce follicles to release and if you are already O'ing it will produce more than one follicle giving reason to a multiple pregnancy. My cousin did this and ended up with triplets. A healthy pregnancy is the most important thing to you and bubs. I wish you all the best and hope that nature will work before science needs to interfere!
I hope you are posting a BFP soon!
Bec

Hi Anna

You said it is more the fact of getting the sperm and egg to fertilise??? Maybe ICSI would be a better option if this is the main reason. ICSI is when you have an IVF cycle and they inject the sperm into the egg instead of letting them fertilise naturally. It is a tricky situation honey and I understand how you are so frustrated. My DH and I have been through one IVF cyle with a negative outcome and it was heeart breaking considering we didn't have anything left in the freezer for another cycle. We are currently having a break now. I have since been diagnosed with severe endometriosis so until they remove that in Feb it is all on hold.

Take care of your heart.



love and hugs


leis xx

Hi guys, had a strange one today.
I had BT & u/s done as I still, after 9 weeks, have not had AF since my m/cs. Blue, I'm almost catching up to your ticker, lol!
Bloods are all over the place and u/s seems to show that nothing is happening, maybe that I got to about CD 4 or 5 and that's where it stopped!
Anyway, I'm now on BCP and hope to get AF after a packet (not the sugar ones). Hopefully it will kickstart my hormones and get something happening.

I haven't had BCP for 8 years, seems a bit strange but I need AF to start cycleing again.

Take care

Anna, are you seeing your GP or are you with a fertility clinic?
Just curious which one you are at, I am also from WA

Also, have you done any cycle tracking, my cycles are not 'stock standard' ones and found out that I 'O' later in my cycles, so it could be handy to have that done as well, just to start covering all bases.

Good luck

Hi ladies!
I just have a quick question. I am down regging on Synarel twice daily & AF has arrived today. Does anyone else experience a really painful/heavier AF on Synarel? Sorry if TMI but usually things are light till Day 2 but this is by FAR the worst I have ever been :shock:
Can I still take Naprogesic?

TIA
Skye :cry:

Sorry Skylear,
I never had to do a down reg.. so I can't help
Hope everyone else is enjoying the "frazzle season"
Bec

Hi all,

Tam - whoah, you are catching up to the ticker! Hope that the bcp sets you straight. Seems strange to take the bcp when ttc doesn't it.

Sorry Skye, can't really help you about the synarel AF. Mine are usually a bit heavy to start with and then kinda taper off. Not sure about the naprogesic either - not much help am I!!

Leis - read about your appt in the other thread. Hope the baby juice does the trick

Hi Anna - sorry to read about your m/c. As Lies mentioned, ICSI may be an option. They might try IUI first tho.

LOL chris to letting your hair down! Good on you. Hope you had a good time! Good luck with your health kick and fingers crossed for Feb/March for you!

Chele - Sorry to hear AF arrived at the wrong time. stupid witch. Hope you can grab a ticket for your next rollercoaster ride soon!

H