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Tam - That inevitable truckload of stickyvibes is on its way to your place - Ive just told them to dump the whole lot on top of you... Im sure you wouldnt mind! ;)
BTW HAPPY 5TH BIRTHDAY To your darlin little Girl - hope she had a lovely day :happybirthday:
Ann - I hope you dont mind but I would like things to happen a little earlier than 2207! Hee hee Typo!
Tam, thinking of you, hoping for a very sticky outcome :D
Sorry for jumping in here, I haven't been around for ages, and only really posted a couple of messages before.
It does seem like everyone else is pg when you are LTT. It's a total nightmare, and when people complain about how hard it is looking after kids it only makes it worse - in my case this happens all of the time! My DH and I have been TTC for 2 years and 4 months now, I'm on my second full stimmulated cycle for ICSI, had 6 transfers on the last one and they were all BFN :(
I'm being triggered tonight and have the collection on Weds, transfer on Friday hopefully. The last egg collection was awful, general anesthetic but made me feel very sick and ended up being there for hours with a drip in my arm afterwards. So am feeling very nervous about this one.
On top of this long journey I also have a thyroid problem, it's under control thanks to my Endochronolgist, who is excellent. she's recommended that I leave work, have no stress and try to relax and concentrate on TTC. So I am finishing work as soon as I have a replacement (hopefully by the end of Feb). My DH and I travel a lot for both work and holidays, visiting family etc. and I've also been told to stop travelling and only go 1 hour away, in the car - no plane journeys! Has anyone else been given this advice?
Is anyone else in Sydney Eastern Suburbs?
Sorry to ramble on, but I just wanted to get more involved in BB. I know there are a lot of girls in here who've been around for ages, so I hope you don't mind a relative new comer!
R A
hi all still here
good luck tam
heaps of sticky vibes your way
keen - thinking of you as well
gotta love a baby boom surrounding you -NOT
SIL just announced she is 6 weeks pg with her 3rd set of twins. If my last cycle had worked - i would be 6 weeks as well. So now I will have a permanent reminder of what could have been once again.
take care all
odette
Hi Alex,
Firstly, good-luck with your EPU Wednesday. I had mine last Wednesday so am suffering thru my 2ww..
I am also in the East...have a thyroid problem..and pcos..so looks like we have a little in common!!
Let me know anytime you want a chat..
best..Lulu
Yes Keen, typo!
But at least by 2207 all of our hopes and dreams would have come true.
Good Luck Tam, sending you heaps of sticky vibes (stick bubba's, stick).
I am now sending each and every one of you pregnancy vibes! :biggrin:
Luv ann
Hi Alex, I'm new here and havent posted much either. Just wanted to wish you luck for wednesday with pick up. I hope your numbers are great and that you dont suffer too much afterwards like last time.
I agree with how hard it can be with all the preggers people around. My best friend and I have only just started discussing my situation recently. I have kept it kind of secret all these years, and now I am finding out how much people DONT understand about it all. I think most know a little of the basics with procedures but are clueless about the emotional stuff. She commented recently about another girl who is finally pg through IVF and was very insensitive about her reactions to other pg girls while she was waiting. It is all very trying!!
Odette, thinking of you with the 6wk pregnancy reminder. I know what that is like too. I can measure how long we have been trying by my friends children.
Tam, wishing you heaps of luck and:stickyvibesgirl: :stickyvibesboy: hope all goes well.
Still waiting here for results of DH y deletion tests. has anyone had experience with this?
How long does it take and what should results be?
thanks for listening and taking me into your group. I have kept this TTC stuff to myself for too long and opening up about it feels great!!:D
Good evening ladies,
I'm just poking in to say that I hope there is a lot of luck around for all of us.
Lulu, I didn't realise you had your EPU as well. Thinking of you
Odette, bugger on the reminder, but hopefully that won't last long cause you'll have your own!
Sazz, I kinda found I talked more to start off with, but less as the time went by. Hope your tests go well.
Keen, do you have any ideas on a cycle with your newly transported embies.
Alex, thinking of you with your EPU, I get pretty bad nausea with full blown anesthetic but my clinic does sedation for EPU so can get through it. Take care.
Take care all you lovely ladies.
Hi all,
I had pick up this morning, I still felt quite sick and had a drip again afterwards, but not as bad as last time. I am planning to relax and to try and do nothing for 2 weeks - all being well. My DH is being great and supportive. He's home with me today :)
Is anyone else at the same stage as me at the moment?
:Stickyvibes to all:
Hi Alex,
Glad all went well for you today. How many eggies did you get?
I actually wrote to you the other day - see above.
I am 7 days in to my 2ww today...best..Lulu
Hi minniemouse,
8 eggs this time. Hopefully they'll be good ones. I was feeling so drowsy that I can't remember if they'll call me today or tomorrow to let me know how they go??? Tomorrow I think. 7 days to go for you! good luck, I hope you are managing to keep busy and to not think about it too much. Which centre do you go to? I go to IVF Australia in Maroubra, I've found all the staff to be lovely. :)
Hi Alex,
8 is great..
they will call you tomorrow...
yes - i am at maroubra as well and they are great. I am working and trying sooo hard to keep my mind occupied - not easy. Am terrified AF will arrive anytime.
So we wait...
Lulu
Hi to the newer additions to our little collective!
I am also going through IVF Australia but at Kogarah clinic - however OPU and transfer will be at Maroubra - so pleased to hear they are nice.
Good luck to you guys and hope that we can have you 'graduating' in no time...
BB has been a godsend at many times on this ride for me - I hope we can be support for you guys too.
Just a quick update MIVF called and we get to start finally!! VERY EXCITED!
Start Synerel on 3/2 and have scan on 16/2, so fingers crossed all goes to plan! If anyone has any advice to prepare me for the rollercoster that would be great.
Yah for the start EJE. Hope all goes well for you.
I just did a PGD IVF also, so would be good to see your outcome.
Take care all.
HI Girls - Its been a while since i posted. Ive been too tired and a bit emotional too. 26th January was the due date for my baby if I hadnt of miscarried last year, it all seems a little surreal to think that I may have had a 2-3 day bub by now. But all the same I am excited that I did get prgnt and it will happen again. Such a coincidence as my Mum was due to have me on the 26th but I came late on the 1st Feb (39 long years ago). Thats where the siilarities stop btwn Mum & I as she was able to give birth to 5 kids - all happy & healthy.:)
On the subject of the pregnancy epidemic .... My 2 best friends, 2 work friends, Sister IL and just about everyone i pass on the street is PG at the moment!! But - it can only be good right? Just rub up against them as often as you can I say!!!;)
EJE - Enjoy the ride and try to relax as much as you can. Think of it as a positive step to starting your family. Affirmative action. I think acupuncture definately helps with the tension and the anxiety. Good Luck.
Miinie Mouse, Tam & Alex - Good LUuk girls. Sticky Vibes all the way. I am will be a couple of weeks behind you.:stickyvibesboy:
As for me I've been on Lucrin for 3 weeks (I use Lucrin by injection instead of Synarel as I have bad allergies/hayfever and it all runs staright out!). Started on FSH injections one week ago and went to the Doc this morning, was surprised to hear that I already have 14-16 follies around 14 mm! Very pleased with myself, I had a feeling that there were a few as my abdomen is definately more swollen than usual and my jeans dont fit! Anyway so I am set for my next EPU on Friday and looking forward to a big haul of qulaity eggs.
I have a question Has anyone every been put on steroids and Aspirin as part of their protocol???????????. My doc recommended them, however with the fuzzy brain I have at the moment I cant remember why. I am not back to see him till Wednesday so I will check then but I would love to hear if anyone else has had any experience with Steroids. Apparenlty there are some side effects, but if they help I dont mind.........
SO there it is......... Lucrin injections, Puregon injections, Fishoil capsules, Multivitamins, Premular, Elevit, Steriods, Aspirin, Xtra folate, Pilates, Acupuncture, Physio, High protein diet and the most god awful potion ever from the Naturoath! My personal baby recipe....
This will be full Stim cycle #9 - my lucky number and EPU one day after my birthday - hopefully all good omens.
Sorry for the long post girls - just keeps pouring out of me..
Wow Shazz, that's a lot to remember to take (but I know you will)
Haven't tried steroids or asprin but am on Clexane this time, which I think is meant to do the same thing as asprin.
Good luck.
Take care all
i have a feeling that Hayseed may have been on a similar combination to that Shazz...
Dreambub- I was on half dose apsrin before they realised our problem was more than my PCOS and that DH had a translocation (double whammy I know) But when they said we would need IVF they said that they don't really want people on IVF to be using asprin, so I stopped.
Tam- nice to FINALLy find someone else out there on PGD. If you don't mind me asking, how has it all gone for you so far? We have been told that with PGD, or tricked up IVF as they nickname it, the odds are even lower than regular IVF, which is not exactally inspirational.
EJE, I have had two IVF with PGD. I don't know why they'd say lower odds because the embryos are tested to see if they are normal. Perhaps they are talking about the drop in numbers goes quick because of the extra testing and time.
I found the numbers do go quick because of looking at fertilisation rate firstly, then how many can be biopsied at Day 2, then looking at how many embryos are normal, then it's finding a normal embryo that goes to blast. Numbers can drop fast.
So really, it has to be a tough embryo that makes it that far!
Saying that though, I have had 3 transfers (2fresh, 1 frozen) and haven't had success yet, but I have another 3 normal snow bubs yet.
On my last one the embryologist said they usually expect 20% normal. I actually had 50% so am happy with that result.
And it costs a lot too, mine is $2,100 with no Medicare coverage. Ouch!
I hope you get some good results on your PGD cycle. As I said, I'll be interested to see your numbers also.
Take care
Tam - $2100 Out of pocket - WOW that hurts! Praying it works soon for you. I will taking Clexane injections too as well as Predicone apparently. Intersted to know - do you start the Clexane AFTER transfer - there seems to be varying protocols? Any side effects youve noticed & do you have Predisone as well.
EJE- Good luck with the PGD. On the asprinin, I thought it was a common treatment on IVF, my FS has given me Cardipran after each TF, but i guess that's after IVF technically.
This tine 2moro I will be ready for EPU. Triggered last night which is always exciting. Can you belive I amost forgot??? What a disaster that would be! Hopefully lots of little eggs waiting to come out for a 5 day visit.
Tam- Yes they do mean lower odds with relation to getting some fertilised, then them making the 8 cell stage, then them making it through being tested, then any of them actually making the grade. They did seem to indicate though that if we actually get any that make the cut IYKWIM then we have pretty good odds after that as they will be tough little embies. If you don't mind me asking, are you doing PGD because of translocation issues, or something else?
The costs here in Melbourne are horrific. Our probe cost us $1,300 to build, non refundable, non medicare covered. Then a full stim cycle will cost us $1700 out of pocket, and $3,000 for the PGD stuff. They are hoping we won't need a new probe for each cycle. Without the probe it will cost us the better part of $5,000 out of pocket per cycle. Mind you I haven't even included in that cost ultra sounds, doctors fees, any hopsital fees not covered by our private health insurance ( we have top hospital cover with Australian Unity, so I am hoping there won't be anything to pay there) It is really scary if this first cycle doesn't work that we will have to come up with $5K to try again. I am not saying the money isn't worth it, I would pay a million dollars to have a child, its just the stress of coming up with it each time, and knowing if a cycle fails, its not just the emotional stress but the financial stress as well.
Dream Bub- best of luck for your EPU :D
Yes, $2,100 just for PGD hurts enough, I'm waiting for my Medicare refund for the IVF though.
We did PGD because of recurrent miscarriages & just nothing working.
That was also the reason for trying the Clexane. I started that 24 hours after EPU. It also worked in good that I was taking Clexane because I got mild OHSS.
EJE, can I ask what the probe is? And why you had to have one built. Not sure if I've missed it along the track somewhere.
And yes, I'd probably pay a million for a bub too.
Shaz, thinking of you on your EPU, you are having a blast transfer?
Good luck.
Keen have your snowbubs got to their new home, & are you transferring soon.
Take care all.
not transferring those snowbubs too soon. We will be doing another fresh cycle first. The snowbubbas were conceived when DH had prostate issues, so we are hoping that might be an explanation for the number of angels we have. Hoping to start afresh and see how we go.... but we wont be leaving those snowbubbas behind!
So sorry to hear your news sweetheart... :hugs: thinking of you...
Currently half way through the TWW. In the end only 1 embryo was good enough to transfer, day 2, 5 cells. Unfortunately the other 3 only got to 3 cells and then stopped. so if this one doesn't work we're back to square one, very quickly!
I've been in contact with the clinic in Las Vegas about their new technology of embryo selection before transfer. I have lots of forms to fill in, complete medical history, heaps of it I don't understand so I'm going to have to ask the nurses at my clinic for help. I hope they don't mind that I'm looking into another clinic????? But I really want to know the cost of the new treatment, if the success rate is higher, and it's not too out of our reach financially, then we're going to seriously consider it.
How is everyone?
Hey Alex - lets hope you have success this time and dont need to head to Las Vegas... but I am curious about the technology you're talking about - what kind of success rates are they saying?
We are looking into all options right now...
Hi Girls,
EPU yesterday went well with 15 eggs but disappointed this morning to hear only 5 fertilised. APparenlty that can improve in the next 24 hours in half of the cases.:pray:
Really sore so I am just checking in quickly. Thanks for your thoughts girls.
Back soon.....
Shaz, take care, I feel for you as my last one dropped off from 20 eggs to 11 fertilised, it's a bad feeling when first numbers come up like that. Hope it stays at five now as the days go along for you. wishing you the best.
Tam- the Probe is the test that they had to do specifically for us. DH has a translocation which meas that his 18 chromosone is stuck to his 21. When we TTC naturally this means that potentially any baby will have either too much genetic information, or not enough- hence my recurrent miscarriages. They have to build a probe/test that relates exacattly to DH's chromosones. When any of our eggs that fertilise sucessfully reach 8 cell stage, they take one of the cells out and test it to see if it has the translocation or not. Any that don't have the translocation will be an EtT or become asnowbub. We are told though each cycle we are going to be very lucky to get even one that will pass the test. So fingers crossed. I hope this makes sense.
Started Syneral yesterday- hope I am doing it right!!
Hi,
Back again. I've been trying to stay away from my laptop, otherwise i'll just end up doing work and the reason I'm at home for 2 weeks is so I can relax. I have no idea if this will help my chances or not, but I have to try.
I got a huge questionnaire from SIRM in Las Vegas, I haven't filled it in yet as it is pretty complicated and I'm going to have to ask the nurses at the IVF clinic to help me. So, until I get my result at the end of this nightmare TWW, I'll wait. Friday is the day, I am feeling so nervous at the moment. Just waiting for AF to arrive at any time and scupper our chances. We all know what this feels like - total nightmare!
Why is it so unfair? I was out for lunch yesterday and a mother, with a small child, plus one on the way, sat near me, left her child on it's own outside a cafe on a busy road, whilst she went inside to order. Now, I know I am being judgmental, but I don't care! The child could have run into the road, he could have been swiped by a passing lunatic. Honestly! People are so selfish and unthoughtful!
Sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now!
So, is anyone in the TWW? If so, when do you get the results?
:)
Hey girls.
Hope everyome is tracking well.
Tam - Cant belive we still had 5 embies left today (day 5). Thanks for thinking of us.
Alex - Ive just joined you today in the 2ww, although not for long I gues as you only have a few days to go. Think positive and I am sending sticky vibes your way to inhale deeply. Please dont even let AF cross your mind, you might attract it!! Think more of your embie burrowing in to stay.;)
My TF went well today with 2 blasts transferred and at least 2 to freeze, a breakthourhg for us. Now I am on Clexane and Prednisone daily as well Prog pessaries morning and night. I'm particularly intersted to hear from anyone using same treatments about what they experience in terms of side effects.
Thanks Shaz, what you said makes sense. I've just called the clinic and asked them to bring my BT forward to tomorrow morning. I've got awful cramps and I don't know if they are pre-AF cramps, or I've also heard that you feel like that when you are pg. So, I am still hoping like mad that it will be a BFP. I have acupuncture on Friday afternoon and definately won't be able to cope if I get a BFN on friday morning, so another reason for moving the test forward.
It's so hard! Why is it so hard????? I am fed up of hearing everyone tell me that ivf never works the first time and takes 5 or 6 times - this is from friends and family, incidently who all are eithe pg or have kids. How can they possibly understand? and more importantly, where are they getting their stats from?
There I go again, babbling away! Sorry.
Here I am again. Right, I cannot believe it, AF has arrived. I know this is probably TMI, but heavy does not describe it. I feel like my insides are collapsing. I also feel like my heart is collapsing too.
I have the BT tomorrow morning, I am still going to go as I really want to ask the nurses to help me fill in the paper work for the clinic in Las Vegas. I just want to know the cost. According to the research the new technology that they use for embryo testing over there has almost triple the success rates of IVF without the testing.
I cannot face calling my friends to let them know, I'm sure I'll get the same reaction as before, that these things take time. But that's just it, they don't take time for everyone!
I really don't understand this, I really had what I thought were symptoms of early pg this time, which I've never had before.
When I find out the cost of the treatment in the States I'll let you all know, apparently you only need to be there for 2 weeks - not sure how that works????
Good luck Shaz with your TWW and to the others - I'm sitting here in tears so sorry, I can't remember who else is waiting too.
I really hope that at least one of you guys gets to join the pg thread this month!:bluedust:
Alex,
biggest biggest :hug: , mate.
Big Hugs Alex - I dont know what to say. So many well meant words are often condescending and frustrating, so just know that people care and mean the best.
Maybe we can go to Vegas together ! What a blast ... anyone else up for it?;)
Alex - it really isn't fair and some days it is all just too much. Take care of yourself and remember we're all thinking of you. xoxo :grouphug:
Hey, I'll be in on the Las Vegas adventure as well!
Marg
Hi,
Thanks everyone for your support. I spoke to the clinic in Las Vegas this morning and will hopefully have a phone consult next week. One of the nurses at my clinic here is helping me fill out the lengthy and confusing questionnaire! I'm just curious to find out the costs of this new treatment, then my DH and I can decide what to do next.
Good luck to everyone still waiting in the TWW, and for anyone in the midst of their cycle.
I'm at home watching "Pride and Prejudice", I'm not sure if it's supposed to cheer me up or not! They're all searching for husbands!
Alex, big, big hug for you. And will be waiting on the Vegas details.
Shazz, thinking of you on the start of your TWW, good luck
EJE, so the probe is what they use to do the PGD? Hope I've got that right.
I think you never stop learning in this AC game.
Marg, hope you're going well.
Take care all.
Hello ladies,
Just wanting to drop in and say hello and tell you all what amazing and wonderful women you are. Your courage and strength astounds me and I read all of your stories with the anticipation that one day soon your hearts will fill with joy when you see those special two little lines.
I am sending all the baby dust in the world to you all, and hope that each and every one of you 'graduates' very quickly.
Hugs to you all,
Lisa
Hi Everyone,
I'm feeling a bit spaced out! I've posted the same message in another thread and as I've just read EJE's message again with a bit more understanding, I wanted to post my message here too.
We went to see our FS today, and I must admit that I was expecting more of the same, "it's a numbers game, at your age after 3 attempts you should get a BFP", but actually, he didn't say that at all. He said that my overall egg quality has not been good, and as none of our embies have stayed, it is likely due to chromosone problems, so he wants us to test for genetic problems. We ahd the blood tests today and it will take 6 weeks to find out if there's a problem or not.
If there is they're going to use the Polscope to get past the spindle and avoid causing any problems with ICSI. It all sounds very confusing! If there is a problem we'll also have to do PGD.
So, this means a delay in the next cycle, hopefully we'll start in early April, on a different protocol called "Antagonist", which is 2 weeks shorter. If we get enough embryos the FS also wants to take them to blastocyst.
I am feeling drained and totally information overload. I was really expecting him to put us straight back onto another cycle. I am so worried about the test and if it brings up anything untoward and scary. 6 weeks seems like forever!
EJE - what's happening with you? Good luck for the Feb start!