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Alex - I cant see back far enough to check if you are doing some acupuncture & herbal medicine? You are probably already doing it and know that it heps to improve egg quality. For me it was interesting this cycle becuase this is the first time that all of my fertilised eggs made it through to day 5, usually I have a big drop off on day 3-4..... i put this down to all the acupuncture and herbal remedies I was on. Just a thought ....
As for me I am 6 days in to the 2ww & all the extra medication is mucking my body about. Getting cramping and nausea as well as the biggest bloated belly. I wake two or three times each night for the toilet and avergae only about 5 hours of sleep a night. Also I dont have much of an appetite, which is the opposite to the side effect I have read about Prednisone which apparently increases the appetite.
I have however dropped 3 kg since coming off the horrible Microgynin pill I took prioir to my cycle starting.
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Hi Shaz,
I'm sorry to hear that you're not feeling great. The emotional strain of the TWW are bad enough without the physical symptoms too.:hugs:
I haven't tried herbal medicine but both DH and I are going for acupuncture. I think I'll ask my acupuncturist about the herbs too. I'll try anything. We're also going to do the antagonist protocol next time, but we can't start for 8 weeks. Gruelling! :wall:
After seeing our FS we've decided to put the Las Vegas thing on hold. We really gained a lot more faith in our FS after yesterday, he does seem to be trying all the different angles for us to have our own baby.
Hope everyone else is OK :)
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So had my appt with my new and ever so competent RE this afternoon and...
DH's results came in and they are absolutely astoundingly fantastic!! It is just incredible and we are looking at doing a cycle next cycle so probably starting lucrin injections around 19 March (assuming a normal cycle for me this time around).... very excited
Plus RE has decided for me to go on the Clexane Injections as well as the pessaries and also wants to put 2 emby's back straight away - so its all very exciting and my hope is back at a level it hasnt been in years! YAYE! Go Team!
Hope I get to join the mass exodus (with the rest of you lovely ladies) that will continue over the next few months....
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Keen I posted in LTTTC to you, but wanted to say here too YAYAYAYAY!
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:clap: thats wonderful news Keen - I love the excitement in your voice - go team
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Tam- Yes the Probe is the PGD test. Veru complicated and expensive test at that!!
Alex- I have my fingers crossed that all is ok with your Genetic testing. They do seem to take a long time to do them. If it turns out you do need to use PGD, let me know, as DH and I are now experts on all the ins and outs of PGD!
Me, well have been on Syneral for 12 days now, and off the pill for 6. Have my Scan tomorrow, and if all goes well start injections. So fingers crossed we pass stage one. Cant wait to stop the Syneral too- nasty stuff. Decided it should come in chocolate flavour :p
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Thanks EJE, if we're going down that road I'll definately need some advice!
Keen - that's great news! I was wondering what was happening with you. Not long to go now.
Shaz - how are you travelling?
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Hello lovelies!
Just wanted to pop in to say Hi to everyone.
Sounds like there is heaps going on in everyones TTC quest. (go girls)
I have been doing some research, and spoke to a professor the other day, I have found out some interesting info.
With my DH problems with his abnormal sperm, we have found out that ivf would have never had helped ($30,000 later we find this out). The professor seems to think that I have been pregnant several times before(3 previous POAS BFP), but the problem is that very soon after implantation everything fails. I always thought that once the sperm fertilized the egg the sperms job was complete, apparently not so.
So DH is back on all of his vitamins, protein supps and other revolting tasting concotions. (DH is taking this very personal now) He says if its the last thing he does, he will get me pregnant. Professor did say that these particular vitamins and things do have a significant improvement to sperm quality.
Ann :rolleyes:
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hey ann
Just wondering if you could tell me all the vitamins and stuff your DH is on as my partner has low sperm count, low motility and low abnomaility( cant remember the proper name) but yeah the 3 big things they look at with sperm, my DP is low on all 3 of them ( DP call's it Homer Simpson sperm lol) and we are about to do another cycle of IUI and if thats not successful then we are heading to IVF ( when we can afford it) also where do you get these vitamins and concotions from? Thanks heaps darl,
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Yeh, we can relate to Homer Simpson syndrome (DH sperm have heads the size of melons - doh).
DH is taking, here goes
L carnitine
protein powder
zinc
vit E
fish oil
vit b
colostrom (not from me, tablet form)
creatine
Antioxidants
I think that is it! All available at health food stores.(isn't too cheap either- 3 of these things cost us $168.00 on Sat)
Also he has to eat heaps and heaps of spinach and green leafy vegies.
A while back we had heard of this, and we tried it between ivf procedures. While doing so he did another SA, and instead of 100% abnornal sperm, he did have 2 % normal.(they do say it only takes 1 good one).
Professor also told us that exercise is also the key, as it opens up the blood vessels and such other things and helps those little spermies along. Smoking is the biggest killer of sperm, DH gave up on boxing day and along with the vitamins and daily excercise he is really giving it a nudge
If I can help in any way drop us a line, only happy to help
Ann :)
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Thanks soooooooooo much for that ann
there is alot of them isnt there?? lol and our sperm is very much like yours big melon heads plus a few extra tails here and there, oh well i love them no matter what they look like, even if it is homer sperm lol.
My DP started the tony ferguson diet last week and he is doing so well, once he has lost most of his bulk he will be joining me on weight watchers, as i have lost 25 kilos so far in the last 3 yrs. As for smoking and stuff neither of us smoke plus DP doesnt drink anymore, i have the occasionally one here and there just to help me unwind.
so hopefully with DP losing weight and taking the vitamins you have listed, fingers crossed when we get another SA done there will be a bit of an improvement, just like you said and my confidant FS said "we only need one good one."
Once again thanks for that ann your a sweetie
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Ann,
My DH is also on very long list of vitamins and antioxidants to reduce any abnormalities in DNA. His list is much the same as yours and he says he is sure he rattles when he walks from all the supplements!
He is on:
VItamin D
Vitamin C
Betacarotene
Multi - Vit which includes several important ones (folic acid, iodine, selenium, magnesium, vitamin E)
Zinc
L-Arginine
L-Lysine
So here's hoping this does the trick for us (and hope your recipe does the trick for you Ann - that is so sweet that your DH has made that commitment to you and sounds as though he really is taking it all serious - Fingers crossed for great results for you, matey!)
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Hello all you lovely ladies.
Just wanted to pop in and say hi .
Hope you are all doing well and sending heaps of babydust to you all.
Anne, Keen - you are both Lucky that you Hubbys take all their vitamins. Mine will only take Zinc. But something is better than nothing I guess.
hugs to all
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Hi there guys!
Im not a regular on this forum- Im usually on the Ass conc forum. But I was reading what ann and keen wrote about abnormal sperm and I wanted to share what happened to us:
My DH has 5% Sperm Morph (or 10% using the other criteria) we were told by two extremelly prominent and well respect FS in Sydney to go away- we will fall preg. Well we didnt! It took us till the third FS to tell us that DH wasnt going to get me preg- or if he did it would take a while so this month we are doing our first cycle of IVF/ICSI after two years of banging our heads against a wall!
But I do know the following about abnormal sperm:
My DH has had 3 tunnel assay tests done- which tests the DNA of there sperm. which is what I think Ann was talking about
- the first one was done with the second FS- it came back at 12.5%- PEFRECT a high Fertility potential. Before the test he was ejaculating every day (I know TMI) and was putting an ice pack on his 'regions' every other day- as per drs instructions
- second DNA test was done at our new FS it came back at 36%- Absolutly TERRIBLE! Low fertilty potential- he did not do any of the above before hand in preperation for it. We demanded another test done!
- the third test- of our own accord we decided, even though the FS did not suggest it, to follow the same procedure as the first test! The result came in at 20% which is a GOOD to fair result. We believe that the ejaculating helped a lot!
He is also under drs instructions taking coQ10, elevit and Vit E. He is going to have a fine needle aspiration for our ICSI cycle as the dr thinks this betters the sperm quality as the reason the DNA gets damaged is on its way out!
Hope this helps!
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We have a new exciting section for TTC Journals here guys! Enjoy!!
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Hi guys... I will be on the TTC path again very very soon.. probably start again just before we head off overseas!
Keen that sounds so promising .. i have good vibes for you sweets.. everyone else a HUGE hello..
love and hugs
leis xx
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Hi girls,
Time to close this thread.
Here is your new thread
