thanks BW, i have had the autoimmune tests done after my second m/c but nothing unusual showed up on them, i have changed to a new specialist now and im having all the tests run again next week, it just seems strange to me that i have my first 2 children with clomid and no problems but the "natural" ones have miscarried so i did wonder whether clomid "helped" my other hormones get stronger or that whether it was just coincidence