Do you still TTC naturally?

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For those going through ART, do you still try to conceive naturally (ie tracking ovulation, timing of intercourse) even if your odds are low? Or do you think it's just pointless and setting yourself up for too much disappointment each month?

I ask because after seeing my gyno, I've questioned my treatment at a clinic. I was going for a 2nd opinion prior to seeing the gyno anyway, but some of his comments further put doubts in my mind.

But at the same time, I think is the gyno giving me false hope? did he fully read all my notes from my clinic? Is there any point being systematic again about ovulation and timing?

Our 2nd opinion appt with a new clinic is tomorrow, so one of the questions I'm going to ask is do we have any hope at all trying to conceive naturally? (our first FS said no, straight to IVF). We have tried two times now, and I'm pretty sure this month (our 2nd) is a no go. EAch time I have let myself get carried away with daydreaming about getting pregnant etc, and after thinking IVF was the only way, and then the gyno's comments, I think I put too much hope again in trying naturally and so it was really disappointing to know it didn't happen (this 1st attempt happened to coincide with the SIL telling us her IVF 2nd attempt worked, some might remember my post about that and not handling it well).

So do you still try and hope for a miracle?