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Sonya, synarel (and lucrin) gave me LOADS of headaches. Nothing much seemed to work for them, either. It seems fairly normal to get headaches, hot flushes are also on the list of side effects, but I missed them.
Completely forgot about Mel's transfer today (can I blame the drugs?), I know you won't be home until late, Mel, but I'm wishing and praying and hoping for a really positive outcome here!
BW
BW - Hope the pain subsides super quick for you.
Mel - Hope all goes well today.
Big hello to everyone else. hope you are all well.
Went to see the new GP today. She was really nice and easy to talk to, even DH liked her (and he doesn't take to any Dr's at all LOL)
Anyway, she has got me to book in for another ultrasound to check things over again, plus all the other usual stuff, blood test, pap (no didn't have it done today..naughty Nic) and even gave DH paperwork for his SA!! The last Dr I saw just did a b/t, didn't even ask what CD I was on and sent me for an u/s. So it was nice to see she was thorough.
Poor DH, the closest path. lab is 45 mins away, and he freaked out when she said it had to be there within an hour! He's freaking out about either speeding or doing the sample on the side of the road LOL! Can't book in for a motel, as they are always booked out. It's all good, we'll work it out!
Catch up with you all later :)
Nic
BW that is great that you got such a good haul...now you rest up and get those levels down nice and quick you hear
Sorry guys...no transfer for me today. Our precious last frostie didnt survive the thaw.
We got a phone call just as we got to the city so had to turn around and drive all the way home again.
Feeling a bit miserable and to tell you truth a bit lost. Dh doesn't know if he can go through this again so I dunno what we are going to do......plus we can't afford any more cycles...we have absolutely maxxed our credit cards out now...I'mm off to feel sorry for myself for a bit.
I'm so sorry, Mel. :hugs:
BW
Ohhh Mel. I am so very, very sorry that your little frostie didn't make it.
Give yourself a few days to get your head together and then I'm sure you'll come up with a new plan.
Massive :hug:
:hug: so sorry mel. hopefully another plan will come up some time in the future.
I'm starting to stress here... I was in at 7:30 for EPU, I've got no idea when I came out, that time was lost in a haze of agony.
But it's now approaching 4pm and I haven't heard from the scientists regarding fertilisation rates yet... How long does it take to ICSI 26 eggs? I'm starting to think that the fact I haven't heard yet is a bad, bad sign.
Help me stop stressing!
BW
Mel - so sorry to hear your news. Thinking of you.
BW - work on the theory that no news is good news. Fingers crossed for you.
Mel - So sorry to hear that things didn't go according to plan. Hope you give yourself some time to heal before moving forward.
BW - Great numbers there, can't wait to hear the fertilisation rate.
Mel - i'm so sorry that you didn't have your transfer today - give yoursel a couple of days to feel miserable and then look at what your options are
Nic - glad you found your new GP to be nice (and thorough) - it's always nice when you're comfy with the people that might hold the answers for you!
BW - take it easy, keep drinking - and take taffy's advice - i always work on the theory that no news is good news.
Mel - so sorry that you didn't have your transfer today. lots of hugs..
BW - Hope that no news is good news.
Nic
I finally got sick of waiting and called the clinic... apparently they will call tomorrow. This seems weird to me, and I'm sure the scientist this morning said that they would call today. But whatever has happened, the scientists had finished and gone home for the day. I guess I just need to wait patiently until tomorrow. And hope that I still have some fingernails left by then! Heck, even if we only get a 50% fertilisation rate, I've still got 13 embies! I'm not sure why I'm worried when I'm starting with 26 eggs! There's room for things to go badly here! :lol:
I just wish DH would hurry up with the new microwave! What a day for ours to explode - when I'm desperate for heat packs and soup! I've had to console myself with a hot cross bun while I'm waiting... It's because I needed food to take the anti-inflammatory drug! Honest! :lol:
I'm doing ok, really. I'm sitting here smiling and giggling to myself, despite the pain. Either I've somehow managed to keep my sense of humour through this, or I've had too much codeine!
BW
Mel, i'm really sorry about your embie. I hope the next few days days brings a bit of clarity for you.
BW, wow - 26 eggs - you guys are going to get loads of snow bubs.
Nic - does the lab have a 'little boys room'?? We have used two different labs before and both offered a room for DH to produce in. We needed it at the first lab as it was 4 hrs away. The second lab we used we drove 45 mins to get there, and he just kept it warm in his pocket. And the lab tech said that was fine.
Jo,
Not sure on the rooms? The Dr said we have to call them first to make sure it's alright to take the sample in. She said she got in trouble because someone fronted up and hadn't called through beforehand.
We are just trying to work out the best days for booking in tests, trying to work it in with DH's days off work and school holidays etc.. Will have to see how DH feels about asking if there is a room for him!
Nic
Hi Ladies!!!
Just wanted to pop in and say hi!
Mel - So sorry to hear about today:hugs:
I have found that after a failed cycle you always seem a little lost....
After every attempt we start to stress out about the $$ - I think our credit cards have been maxed permanently since our first cycle in 2003!;)
The best thing about charging a cycle to your card is that as soon as you pay it back its ready to go again.... god great financial advice from me here, but it was the only way I could keep positive at those particular times!!!!
Just take the time for yourself and let everything settle... a situation will always present itself!!!
Take it easy xxx
BW - If it makes you feel any better, on all 4 cycles our clinic has never called us until the day after with fertilisation results... last time they said they would call us everyday with cell division updates, but they didn't - makes you so cranky but I guess they know what they're doing.... It would be easier if they didn't say anything at all rather than telling you:rolleyes:
Good luck for your fertilisation results, things sound so promising with the amount of eggs!!!
From the sound of you you'll have to make an appointment with your Leah and have a session asap for all of the stress... isn't it crazy what we do to ourselves when we want something bad enough!!!
Theres not a woman on here who doesn't understand the true meaning of determination!!!
Everyone else - HI!!!!:D
Not much to report here, just plodding along with the acupuncture & herbs.....
Hope you are all great and talk soon!!!
Holly
xxxxxx
Thanks, Holly. I think I'm ok now with not having had any news today. I'm keeping focused on the fact that I've got so many eggs, there's bound to be a good number at the end. Considering I wanted around 8, and I'm way over... there's a lot of room to move here! I've got an appointment with Leah on Wednesday afternoon. She says it will help my recovery, which is good.
Nic, I'm glad you're happy with the doctor. DH has had to take samples to our clinic before - it's a 45 minute drive from here, he just jumps in the car as soon as he's done and off he goes. He keeps the jar in his pocket to keep the boys warm, too. He's had another analysis done by a specialist that was an hour away - we thought he'd have to use the rooms there, but they said he was ok to still do his business at home and then drive in.
I'm still really dozy from the codeine. The only pain I have sitting still is from the gas bloating, everything else only hurts when I have to move.
Now ladies, I need a favour from you all. I've had a very extreme stim cycle - cyst bursting, hyperstimulating, waking up screaming in agony from the pain in my ovaries and vagina (that surprised me!). We need to convince our dear friend Summer that it's most completely *not* normal for this to happen and that she's a super strong woman who CAN do this! I'm just a problem patient who will do everything possible to make my doctors earn their fees! :rolleyes:
BW
Mel - My heart sank for you when I read your post. Take care of yourself and DH. Holly had it in one - something will present itself for you :hugs:
Nic - how exciting!! It is great once you really get things moving isn't it?! We live about an hour from town and we stashed DH's SA sample under the jumper and that was all good!
BW - I'm surprised you made it to the putie in that much pain! 26 eggs OMG! Hope all works out for you tomorrow. BTW we didn't hear until PM the following day re fertilisation.
Hi everyone :hello:
We didn't leave the hospital until the worst of the pain had subsided and I was able to walk (albeit slowly!). When we got home, I was just going to jump on the computer and let people know the numbers and that I was ok... it was just easier to not move after that, so I've kinda stayed here ever since. I think I'll go join DH in front of the TV with a heat pack soon. Not that heroic, just lazy! :lol:
BW
Hi all,
Mel - Sorry you weren't able to have the transfer today :hugs: I'm glad that you're taking a bit of time for yourself and DH. Thinking of you sweetie :(
BW- Congrats on the great number of follies - I almost fell off the couch when I read that!! Is the number and the OHSS the reason the OPU has effected you so much?
I so hear you about the wind...although mine wasn't burping! And it lasted all the following day too!
Don't worry about them not contacting with fertilisation rates...DH and I didn't hear until transfer. I would think you'll get a nice lot of snowbubs with that amount of eggies though!! Are you putting one or two back when you get to do transfer?
Hope the OHSS doesn't effect you too badly.
Nic- Glad you found the Doc really helpful!
Smudge- How are you going hun?? Surviving the tww okay so far?
I'm feeling heaps better today - haven't had any pains!
Hi BG, Holly, Summer and everyone else!
Girls!!!
Firstly Mel,BIG HUGS. I just wanted to let you know that my heart sank when I read your post. How awful for you to be halfway there when you found out, you poor dear! I agree with the others, just feel miserable for a few days then start nutting out a solution.
BW, WTG with the egg numbers, clever thing! I hope you start feeling a bit more comfy soon. Take care of yourself.
Nic, we live nearly 2hours drive from clinic so DH has always had to produce at the clinic, rather than at home. They usually have magazines etc in the room to help out.
That might give your man something to look forward to!
I have lost track of who is in the TWW at the moment.... try to keep sane!
BG, I think I am 1 day ahead of you this cycle as I am having bloods starting tomorrow... hope you are coping ok.
Me... I have had terrible headaches allday everyday while on synarel which is why I havent been coming on BB too frequently. I had absolutely terrible AF this time too so have been feeling a bit miserable. Hoping now that she has gone, the headaches might subside too so I can keep up with what is going on in here! I had a readup and fiddle with my puregon pen today and I think it looks pretty easy compared to the old way I used to do it with drawing up from vials etc. That bit used to stress me out.
I had a lunch with 2 friends the other day. One is 15wk PG and the other has 2 littlies. I found it a bit difficult with the PG talk but they were great later when we went shopping. I had told them about doing IVF again and they were telling me what to get and what to look for when I do get PG. It was great having them talk so positively rather than "oh poor you.maybe one day in the distant future". I even bought a pair of yellow booties (meant to bring luck) and have pinned one under each of our pillows. I reckon anything is worth a try at this stage! If nothing else, it made me feel good.
Hope everyone is going well....sorry about the long post.
Hugs from Saz
BW - totally understand, last cycle we collected 28 mature eggs from over 50 follies, so totally agree with the pain and bloating - my levels on day of pick up were over 30,000.. and also agree that NO it doesnt usually happen like that for most people, so those who might be considering IVF dont be too scared off by this.
ICSI can drop your numbers fast. From our 26 fertilised by day 5 we had one transferred and only 4 successfully frozen... hoping your numbers are much higher :crossfingers:
Mel, so sorry. Nothing worse than getting so close, only to not even get a chance at it :hugs: i think its totally natural to wonder what next - you need time, thats for sure.
Carrie, when I have used crinone I have had the shooting pains, too. Apparently very normal.
Hi Sazz - yeah, you're one day ahead of me this cycle - i have BT's on wednesday, then hopefully start the puregon wednesday night. AF looks like she's just shown up for me, which i guess is a good sign - last time i was on synarel she showed up day 12 - this is day 12 again - woo hoo - for the first time in my life i've been consistent in something!! we're going through IUI, so i'm hoping that my body will respond this cycle - last cycle was cancelled - don't think i could go through that again. if it doesn't work this time, might talk to FS about moving to next step...
BW - no one will pick on you for being lazy tonight - i tend to do the same thing when i'm sore - find one place where i'm tolerably comfortable, and perch there! i think i'm glad you and I don't share the same FS - i have been making mine earn his dollars too - wouldn't want to put all that pressure on one person!
Smudge and Carrie - hope you're both holding up ok in the TWW - here's hoping those little embies are nice sticky ones for you both
to everyone else a big hi. i'm having a "flat" night tonight. was my nephews birthday today, and had to spend the night with my parent's and bro's family - love them dearly, but feeling very very crampy from AF tonight and just wasn't in the mood for it! i've never been one to even know AF was coming to visit if she showed up naturally, but having provera or synarel bring her around gives me a lot of grief. think i might spend a hell of a lot of time snuggled up to DH's back tonight - he's my very own heat pack! no microwave required!!
Thanks for the info girls, I don't feel so bad about not being able to get the sample there ASAP! :)
Nic
Keen, thanks for that. I'm sorry that you've also had to go through that hell, but it's slighlty comforting to know that it *does* in fact happen sometimes. The numbers also help, too. I've been trying to tell DH that they won't all fertilise, they won't all go to blast, and they won't all stick. We want to use all embryos that we get, so he's currently imagining us with 26 kids running around - poor man!
BG, you are so right! No doctor deserves to have two patients like us! But I'm sure they all need one to keep them on their toes and stop them getting too comfortable with their ways of doing things.
Sazz, isn't it just so great when friends react that way! I just can't stand the "oh you poor thing" that some of them do. When I was visiting a friend the other day she was talking to me about her breastfeeding pillow - how it all worked and that I was quite welcome to borrow it... it threw me a little that she was so confident that all this would work, but afterwards I did really appreciate the fact that she treated me like a normal person and that she has confidence. In the rough days, it's good to know that there are friends like that to fall back on and to help pick you up.
Right now I'm just scared of the pain. I'm scared of the fact that it hurts so damn much to go from laying down to upright. I can't stand upright, and every single step is agony... of course, it's slightly less bad when I don't have a full bladder, but that's about the only thing that prompts me to move at the moment. My heat pack is my best friend, and I'm finding all sorts of spots that hurt really, really badly. Like the spot directly above my right ovary that feels so bruised it hurts to have the heat pack on it. All down my right side - hurts to press on my waist, my hip joint hurts like it's cramped badly during sex. I feel a bit like I've been run over by a steam roller! Even my throat hurts like crazy, but I know that's just from the anaesthetic. I can't tell if the bloating in my belly is from gas or fluid, but I've been weighing myself, and there's been no huge increases. I think that's a good sign?
I think I want DH to stay home with me tomorrow, but then I also want him to leave work early on Wednesday to take me to acupuncture. I don't feel good about an hour's drive each way dosed up on panadeine forte! But it's a new job. Today was an RDO, and I think he'd have to start using his sick leave to stay home and care of me. At least he doesn't get sick much to actually need to use them for himself.
I'm rambling and tired and want to go to sleep but there's another hour before I can take more panadeine forte, and I think I'll sleep better if I wait. OHSS is the pits! I wouldn't ever wish this on my worst enemy!
BW
BW - i feel for you hun - wish there was something we could do to make the ouch factor go away!
Nic - our clinic/lab is a bit over an hour from home - they told me DH's sample would sit around for a while anyway cos they need it to liquify before they can do anything with it anyway, so we're ok to collect it at home for SA - not so sure about the sample needed for IUI though - that one might be a little more difficult to time from home and still get there at right time for appointment... we'll have to wait and see in a couple of weeks!
Sazz - Great to hear that you had a good time with your friends shopping and that they were so positive for you! The booties were a good idea, I hope they bring you lots of luck. Hope those awful syneral headaches go soon, it's hard to do anything with those headaches!
BG- Well not to long now til the BT. I hope it all goes well and that you're on the puregon soon! Great to hear that AF has visited although sorry you're feeling yuck tonight, hope that a good snuggle with DH helps a bit - if not perhaps a heat pack...
BW- Hope that you get a good sleep tonight and feel a little better in the morning.
Keen- Thanks for the info - I was starting to get paranoid that something was wrong. It's good to know it's all normal. Hope you are gong well. I posted in the LTAC thread. Hope the puregon is going okay for you and that this is the one!
Quick question: I was reading the articles here on BB and in the IVF one it was saying that you get to lay down for an hour after transfer. I have never been given this option and believed that it was what they used to do but don't do anymore..... has anyone here gotten to lay down for an hour after??
Just popping in to say hi to everyone - i've been flat out this week so haven't been on, work should quieten down soon so i'll be back to finish catching up on all your news :)
BG Just wanted to pop in and wish you all the very best for your blood test tomorrow.
BW How exciting that you had your EPU yesterday. I hope you are doing ok.
Sending lots of baby dust to everyone here.
BW - Hope you are feeling heaps better today :)
Nic
Feeling much better today than yesterday, but I spent an hour on the phone to a friend and I forgot to keep my fluids up at the time, so I'm playing a bit of catch up right now.
The clinic finally called with numbers. Of the 26 eggs that were collected, 21 were mature enough to use. Of those, 15 have fertilised successfully. We're going to blast, so just praying that we don't lose too many between here and Saturday. I know they won't all make it, but... I want to have enough to never need to do another stim cycle again! The clinic says my numbers are fairly normal, so I'm not doing any better or worse than other women.
Next appointment with David is the 12th of April, so we find out next week just where to go from here and how to handle the FET.
I'm fairly happy. I'm certainly not disappointed as we've avoided the catastrophic fertilisation failure.
BW
YAY for 15, BW!!
Will you get another call on Saturday to update you?
Nic
They said they'd give me daily updates on how they are going. As much as I know they won't all make it to blast... It's this next step that has me more worried than the fertilisation rates!
BW
BW - numbers can be lower because of ICSI, but the ones that make it are usually stronger than if it werent used... if that makes sense? Hang in there - and GOOD LUCK! And BTW 15 is GREAT!
Carrie - We have never been todl to lay down for an hour after, but on the day surgery admission forms last time, I did notice it said that - the hospital just told me that I could take as long as I needed before leaving, so I got in a recliner chair and stayed there for about 45 mins... (although as I dont have any children and Im not pregnant - apparently that didnt make much difference :) )
Thanks, Keen. I'm just feeling a little paranoid at the moment. 15 is still higher than the number of eggs I had orginally wanted, but as that stim cycle was hell on earth, the thought of doing it again fills me with dread. Even though I know that they would have learned something of the way my body responds so that we can hopefully avoid the hyperstimulation next time round... I just don't want there to be a next time! In some ways, I think this wait is worse than your traditional TWW.
BW
Congratulations on 15! hope most hang in there until saturday for you.:pray:
HOORAY!!!! today i just received the birthday present ever!! AF has arrived! was due last tuesday, but am so happy its finally occured!!!!!!:dance:
just waiting for concept coordinator to call back and i should be doing BT tomorrow and hopefully starting puregon on friday!!! soooo excited. my BFF is p#ssing herself laughing at my joy of getting AF.
can you tell i'm a first-timer or what:dance:
That's great news, Sonya! So glad you can get started! I'm sure some of the women who have been doing this for a while still get excited when AF arrives so they can start a cycle. Wishing you a quick and problem-free AC journey from here.
BW
yay sonya - great news about AF (as silly as that sounds) - i know you've been hanging out to get started, so this is really good news - Happy Birthday too - hope you have a great day, and that you get more than just AF for your birthday!
BW - woo hoo again on the fertilisation rate hun - i'm so happy for you. fingers crossed that they've got the same strength you have and will give it a fighting go at getting to blast stage. i have my fingers crossed for you that you never have to go through the stress and discomfort of another stim cycle! keep looking after yourself - and no matter who you're talking to, keep drinking!! (maybe you need to say to your frineds - hi, how's things? can you remind me in a couple of minutes to keep drinking?!!:lol: ).
thanks for dropping in Mako - how are you going hun?
to everyone else, a big hi. for me, AF has arrived, and she's being downright nasty - i've NEVER even felt AF pains prior to this AC thing and thought the provera made it uncomfy, but this time around, she's just driving me insane - for the first time ever i had to leave work cos i was in so much pain - how rude! she really is the unwanted visitor (even if i know she's helping to get my body ready for the next part of this journey!!) looking forward to 4pm tomorrow - should hear sometime around then whether i can start puregon tomorrow night, and i'll be knocking off work- have an RDO on Thursday - woo hoo for the five day weekend!!:dance:
BW- Woohoo for your 15 embies! Hope that you get a good number hang on til the blast stage (but not toooo many, as I know you want to use them all!). Are you feeling any better today? Rest up.
Keen - I think you are the guru here sweetie!! Although I'm sure you wish you weren't (and so do we), we all appreciate the wealth of info that you have. Hope you're doing well.
Sonya- Congrats on AF turning up! Hope the BT goes well for you tomorrow.
BG- Same for you!
Mel- Hope you are okay today.
BW - what FSH levels did they have you on this cycle? I have been on 100ui Puregon, which has now been dropped to 75ui.
Carrie - yeah, it sucks having all the experience with it, but happy to help anyone out with anything they need to know... Im doing better today than I was yesterday! Hope this wait hurries up for you!
Sonya - Congratulations on AF - it is such a strange feeling to be happy about AF isnt it??!