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Starbright: :comfort: I am so sorry to hear AF arrived hun. :hug: I was really hoping this would be your cycle. I now remember what you said about your transfer. Fingers crossed the FS is able to work something out for you so it is not so bad next time. I'm with Nix, open up a nice bottle of vino just for you. :grouphug:
Hi all,
Just want to start by saying a massive big thankyou to each and everyone of your for your kind words of comfort. Since the idea was put on the table last thursday till even last night laying in bed, has definately been a rough few days.
Ladies I know what you mean about the tears. I managed to cry myself to sleep last night and over the weekend managed to also cry myself into a monster headache. I too also came home today, not because of being upset but because Im ovulating at the moment after having the trigger Sat night @ 6.30pm and boy am I so uncomfortable and in a bit of pain. Thought it best to come home and rest up on the couch this arvo and tackle tomorrow, tomorrow. Pains not too bad just so uncomfortable!!!
Star Bright - Plan of Action!!! Took my trigger on Sat evening and so now need to wait for AF to arrive!!! In the mean time the PGD Nurse at the clinic told me that she will get together another pack for myself which will have a new script for Lucrin, new script for OCP and my new cycle diary. In the mean time though, she did remind myself that when AF does arrive, be sure to give them a call so we can put the dates into the cycle diary. Then we need to go through the whole cycle again. This time however FS has told me that we will without a doubt be starting on a higher level of FSH this time.
As heartbreaking as it was to make the decision Its hard to turn the emotions off and oh so dissapointing for this to happen first go. FX that the FS learnt from this failed first cycle. I suppose also looking at it Im greatful that DH and I have the financial capability at this point in time to do another cycle straight away.
Im determined to be extremely positive this second time. No more looking back only looking forward, no more glass is half empty attitidue, glass is half full!!! Even called an Accupuncturist this morning whose details I got from an old thread on here and have my first appointment with him on Wednesday.
Best get back to resting.
Thanks for listening/reading my rants ladies. Its very much appreciated.
SB ~ so sorry hun :hug: GL for your trial run - i suppose at least they are looking into it and perhaps going under sedation for the transfers might be a good option. Hang in there hun and all the best. :comfort:
Nix ~ sorry your feeling :cry: and anxious, hang in there - you will get through it.
Hoping your feelings are wrong and all the best for BT Thursday. :crossfingers:
Hi to everyone else and :bluedust::pink-babydust:
Starbright: Sorry to hear AF showed up today. I feel for you hun :hug: Why do we have to go through this each month! It's so cruel! All we can do is try to put it behind us and look forward to the next month.
Nix- hope your feeling better and the headache has subsided. Hoping that you get a BFP on Thursday!
AFM: I feel like crap. I have had a niggling sore/dry throat these past few weeks and when I woke up this morning I had the sorest throat. Anyway took a sickie from work and visited the local doc who prescribed some antibiotics. Not sure if this has any impact with IVF especially in these early days?! I just want to get better so I am 100% healthy for when I officially start. I did have a chuckle when the doc said that if you take antibiotics with the pill you could fall pregnant - if only that would happen :p
Hope everyone had a good day!
ME 35 :kiss: DH 32 & 1 cheeky furbaby
TTC #1 Since Nov 07
IVF#1 - Aug/Sept - Nurse visit on Wednesday
Evening Ladies
Ok, so here's my day 3 embryo update:
Of the 33 eggs injected by ICSI, 30 ended up fertilising.
Of those 30 eggs, at day 3, we've now basically lost half. My clinic says that for day 3, they're looking for 5-8 cells. We have 15 embryos that are pretty much now out of the running because they're less than 5 cells (eg. 9 of those 15 are still only at 1 cell today, and another 3 have degraded).
But then we have the other 15 embryos that are still within normal range for what the clinic wants (3 of which are above average). We have 2 x 5 cells, 3 x 6 cells, 6 x 7 cells, 1 x 8 cells, 2 x 9 cells and 1 x 12 cells.
So on the one hand, I'm excited about the 15 that are still going (especially the 9 and 12 cell embies), but on the other hand, I'm also disappointed about the 15 that won't make it. In a way, I feel like by getting all those eggs, we're not much better off that our last stim cycle (when we got 15 eggs total), because we're almost on par with the same number of embies at the same stage. So by getting double the amount of eggs this time, all it's done is delay an ET for 6-8 weeks, but we're not really any better off embie-wise.
And again, I'm quite concerned about the quality of the embies too. I didn't find out their quality grading today, but when I speak to the clinic on Wednesday, I want to know the grading quality of each one. We have 3 embies still frozen from a previous cycle, but their quality was graded fair to poor (which is 2 out of 5 I think - second worst grading). I'm just worried that we might get the numbers, but not the quality. Geez, this is all doing my head in. You just can't win.
We won't get a day 4 embie update, so will just have to wait to Wednesday (day 5) before we find out how many made it to blastie stage and therefore, how many they're going to freeze. I will be waiting with baited breath.
Motherhood - So sorry to read that you cancelled your cycle. I can only imagine how hard that decision was for you. Glad to hear you're having a positive attitude for second time around. Good luck.
Starbright - That really sucks with AF showing up. I'm so sorry hun. I hope you can work something out for your next transfer so that it works a bit better (and is a little more comfortable for you).
Lise - hope your U/S went ok today.
Onja - I'm sorry to hear you got a BFN too. :hug: to you.
mitf - good luck with the health kick. You're a better person than me. Haven't done much exercise at all lately.
Nix - I know how you feel about coming up with excuses for not drinking and/or the 'when are we going to have kids' discussions. We're building a house so that's my excuse at the moment - "just not the right time to start thinking about kids, you know" (yeah right, if only they knew we've already been trying for over 18 months).
To all those girls in the TWW - Hope things are going relatively smoothly for you, and you're not going too crazy.
To everyone else I've missed :hello:
Wishes xoxo
Hi ladies,
Sounds like there is lots going on at the moment, and much of it even harder than usual to cope with. I hope everyone is taking care of themselves as best as they can and doing whatever it takes to stay sane.
Sonyalouise - i'm glad you got the go ahead to start with the lucrin. The 10th will come round before you know it!
Motherhood here I come - I really admire how you've turned a tough situation into an opportunity to improve the process next time. I've only had one acupuncture appointment so far, but definitely found it helped. And something else i've done this year is exercise and get healthy. I've lost 15kgs this year, but more importantly than losing weight is that I feel so much better and I've got a much better attitude. So I hope it helps you too.
Loops12 - well fingers crossed for a natural PG - how exciting would that be :)
Tracy - glad you're feeling good!! Spread those good vibes around!! Hope you got your answers, so so frustrating having to wait, I hate it too.
Onja - sorry to hear about AF arriving, and on fathers day too, it somehow makes it even harder to take. :hug:
mitf - :goodluck: with the health kick. As I said, I think it's the best thing I could have done for myself. I was actually upset that I couldnt go for a run today, and I NEVER thought I would say such a thing!
melttc - tell your managers (or not!) whenever feels right for you, no hard and fast rule! Hope you start feeling a bit better soon!
Star-bright - so sorry hon to hear that AF arrived. :grouphug: I know it's hard waiting. I hope the time goes quickly for you.
Nix76 - hope the post helped to make you feel a little better. Sometimes I think a big cry is just what I need...
Wishes - I understand your frustration, but 15 is still a great result, so focus on the positives to get you through this!
AFM - had us today and FINALLY got hold of a nurse this afternoon who confimed that I can do the trigger tonight! This means EPU is Wednesday, and ET on Friday. I was on hold for about 20 mins waiting to speak to a nurse (I needed to know trigger day so I knew what drugs I needed to get - didn't want to pay for more orgalutran if I didn't have to!) so when she told me I could go ahead I was a little emotional and had a few tears. So i've decided to take Wednesday onwards off work, luckily my managers are very supportive and I have loads of sick leave so it's not a problem. I'm just praying everything goes okay, being my first cycle, i'm still not sure what's good or not, or what I should be asking (though i'm trying to take notes for you very wise ladies!!).
Anyway, I hope everyone has a better day tomorrow, and :grouphug: to all!
To anyone I missed - apologies. I'm very tired and ready for bed but have to wait up a bit longer for the trigger injection...!
lise xx
Lise- how very exciting for you, wishing you all the very very best for the next few days
Onja- I am so sorry to hear your news ((hugs))
Starbright- I am sorry for your news too
Nix- hangin there hun ((hugs)) all these hormones suck huh?
Wishes- wow I can so understand you feeling frustated that 15 little eggies didnt make it. The ones that have so far sound like like they are doing great tho, so hang in there, wont be long and it will time again ((hugs)) just try to keep occupied mean while
melttc- hope your feeling better soon and that being sick doesnt set you back any. Dont ya just love how easy they reckon it is to fall pg? Geez if its that easy why are we going through all this?
AFM- I made dh call yesterday as I was at work (well he was too, but thats different) and I didnt want to have to deal with ppl walking in while I was on the phone to the clinic.
Anyways our two remaining embies never made it past day three :(
Makes me feel sad and also that maybe the little embie inside might not have made it that far either........trying to stay positive tho, it was further advanced than the other two. 1 week down now, one to go
Lise - Wow 15 kgs.... that's an impressive effort. I am hoping to loose about 5kgs which I have put on over the last few months while TTC. I know what you mean about missing exercise when you can do it. I got back on my bike for the first time since before my EPU. It was a perfect spring morning for a ride. :goodluck: with your trigger and EPU.
Wishes - I am sorry to hear that you lost half your eggs.. I have heard it is pretty standard to loose about half regardless of how many you get so I wouldn't worry to much about the quality on the other half. Of our 10 only 4 made it as the rest were too immature and didn't develop properly. Having 15 at this stage is still a fantastic result. :crossfingers: you don't loose too many more.
MotherhoodhereIcome - love the positive attitude and fantastic to see you looking forward. :crossfingers: that your FS will be able to get things moving quicker from the lessons learned this cycle. GL with your acupuncture tomorrow.
Onja and Starbright - I hope you are both felling a bit better and your DH's are taking wonderful care of you.
Melttc - I hope you are feeling better soon. I haven't told anyone at work I am undergoing IVF. It is pretty flexible and no one questions me when I say I have an appointment or take a personal day for EPU. I am thinking about taking longer of next time so may consider telling my immediate supervisor but as you say it's a tough decision to make.
Tracy - so sorry to hear that your little embie's didn't make it to the freeze. FX that this little embie will be a keeper and you won't be needing them anyway. All the best for the rest of your TWW.
Nix - I think the first IVF wait is the hardest because we have so many built up expectations that IVF will finally answer our dreams and provide that elusive BFP. I felt a lot more stressed when I had my first IUI and then first IVF. A number of girls I was cycling with last month got a BFP on their first IVF and I truly hope that you do too. Not long to go now :goodluck:.
Loops - Hope you are feeling better. Thanks for the advice I will have to give the MB another go. I had just presumed that I was in the small % of women who it didn't work for. :goodluck: with your FS appointment on Thursday.
AFM - I saw my new acupuncturist for the first time yesterday. She specialise in fertility and sounds really positive. She would like me to take some Chinese herbs in my upcoming FET TWW. I said I would think about it and want to check with my FS first. Has anyone else tried dried Chinese medicine herbs? I tried liquid herbs from a Naturopath one. They were a vile dark brown cough mixture type thing... yuk!
I am sorry if I have missed anyone, a big hello and all the best to the ladies nearing the end of their TWW. :pink-babydust::stickyvibesboy:
Mitf
xo
Hi girls
Need to vent (and not even about my little embies).
Ok, so I basically think that I am THE most jinxed person to ever live. A really good girlfriend called me tonight to tell me that she's just fallen pregnant (she's only about 5 weeks). While I had to put on my most happy voice for her, inside, my heart sank. She is just another person on a VERY LONG list of people in my life that have fallen pregnant first or second go (she only went off the pill last month, and is pregnant first go). Oh, and did I mention that I also know ALL the people who have fallen pregnant accidentally as well. Like I said, I'm jinxed (or cursed - I don't know which one).
I mean, come on!!! This is seriously beyond a joke now. She was literally one of my last close girlfriends who wasn't pregnant, but now she is. I know I shouldn't feel like this, but it feels like a competition for me....to make sure I get pregnant before anyone else of my friends does, otherwise I'm just gonna have to go through this heartache over and over each time someone else falls pregnant. Although I don't really have much else to worry about, because that would be all of my friends who are pregnant now (although, they'll probably all start trying for their #2 babies now).
Another girlfriend who announced her pregnancy in July, wasn't even engaged when we started TTC (she only got married in March, and was pregnant by May).
I'm pretty down in the dumps tonight and wondering when is it going to be my turn??? Why is falling pregnant so hard for me, but is so UNBELIEVABLY easy for every other person that I know. It's just not fair!!
Sorry girls, no personals. Too sad tonight.
Wishes xoxo
Hi Ladies,
Wishes, I just wanted to jump on and give you a big :hug: I know how it feels. At one point I had 14 (fourteen!) friends and workmates who were expecting (there was a baby boom last year, I swear). Many of them were accidental pregnancies. I get really sad when I think of one of my work colleagues - she announced her first pregnancy in the same month we started TTC. She's since given birth to two children. How can it be that she's had two children in the time we've been trying for one?!
Remember, if you buy a red car, all you notice around you is every other red car on the street - and suddenly there seems to be hundreds of them. The same applies for babies and pregnancies. I swear some pregnant women choose to go shopping when I do because they want to shove my face in my infertility. And they all seem so bl**dy smug about it.
I found a book called Invitro Fertility Goddess, which I really connected with - it's an Australian woman's journey through TTC. The other thing that has helped is to acknowledge how awful you feel when someone close to you falls pregnant so easily, even if to others those feelings might seem illogical. Be kind to yourself, and feel free to vent on here whenever you need to.
Big :hug: to you, and a big :grouphug: to everyone else. BBL for a proper catch-up.
Thanks Seph. I know that I'm not the only person out there who feels like this, and you've even been trying for way longer than we have so I really shouldn't be complaining at all. I just feel like the world is against me sometimes.
Hope it happens for both of us soon.
Wishes xoxo
Hey wishes huge hugs to you hun. I am sitting in the corner with you tonight, my sister rang tonight to tell me her daughter is pregnant, I burst into tears. I feel like the worst aunty in the world. She had apparently told everyone not to tell me, but felt she ought warn me so I could pretend to act all surprised and happy when my niece breaks the news
Tracy - so sorry to hear your news too. So far, it's only friends around me that are getting pregnant. I've not had anyone close to me in my family fall pregnant so far (other than sister-in-law). I couldn't even imagine how I'd feel if either of my sisters fell pregnant before me. In a way, luckily one sister is 8 yrs younger than me and isn't anywhere near close to wanting a baby. But my other sister is only 2 years younger than me. All she's ever wanted is to get married and have children. But she's not had much luck in the men department. I do actually hope that she finds someone soon though.
Your niece must be very young. I think your signature says you're only 34. Hope you manage to take her news ok.
This morning, I've now moved on from being sad, to being angry. I am just so angry that all my friends around me are able to fall pregnant naturally (and easily), but I can't. So I'm not in a very good mood at work today. Hope no-one decides to mess with me today, because they could be in for a rude shock.
I'm also supposed to find out my day 5 embryo results today.
Wishes xoxo
Wishes - I hear you sister :hug:. Many of my friends are now having their second babies and here I am still ttc our first. What I don't get is how easy it was for them to conceive. The typical response is "we got pg as soon as we stopped taking the pill" or "I was drunk when I conceived" or "I didn't watch my eating or drinking when we conceived" etc.
Interestingly, if there was a problem conceiving they are not prepared to share this with you. Two of my friends are pregnant and I know from other sources that it took them more than 6 months to conceive, however when you ask them they tell you they conceived immediately or we were not even trying. Yeah right!
At this stage I have only told a my immediate family and a close friend that we are undergoing IVF. If we are successful, and if people ask how long did it take to concieve I believe I will probably lie too :D
It sucks not being able to get pg! I have my first nurse visit today. I am not too sure how I will go. Part of me is so upset and angry that it has got to this point that we need assisted conception. I think if we don't succeed on the first attempt, I might hold off until the new year or until the next friend of mine announces their pg! arrgg!!!
Wishes - I feel you pain. It definitely does feels like a completion at times. I have many friends with babies or who are pregnant who I had thought I would have babies before. I have watched them get pregnant, have babies and too wondered when the hell is it going to be my turn. I am sorry that you had to find out about your girlfriend right now. This is the last thing you need to be thinking about at the moment. I found out on my last TWW that 2 of my good girlfriends are pregnant. I hadn't had any pregnancy news for a while and couldn't believe the timing of it. I was particularly upset as both of them also got engaged, married and now pregnant and while we are still on the TTC bandwagon. It added to the stress and expectations of my TWW. I hope you can push it from your mind and concentrate on you, your little embies and the BFP you deserve. I truly hope that this month is your turn! GL with the day 5 update today. Feel free to vent anytime and you certainly don't have to apologise for it.
Tracy - I hope you are doing ok too. My little sister started trying to conceive at the same time we did and got pregnant in her second month. She is now trying for number 2. I can't help but feeling it's not fair and wish I could have experience this first. I hope your turn isn't too far away.
Seph - thanks for the book details. I am going to go see if I can find it a lunch.
Mel - GL with your appointment today. I hope your first cycle is a success and you won't need to worry about taking a break.
hey Girls,
Wishes - I felt like crying just now reading your post hun. I SOOOOO know how you feel and it is just terrible. I am amazed you even foudn the words to write as it just blows me away when i think abotu that same thing! My biggest challenge - my DP's brother been with a girl 12 years younger than he (she is just a baby really) for around a year. they announce they are engaged about 4 months ago then announce they are having baby about 3 months ago. Interesting timing - not sure what came first. This was SOOOOO hard to deal with for me I can not tell you - and anyway - you know how it feels!
I actually went and got some counselling as I just knew I was not going to be able to deal with this by myself and in the time I needed as I think we were going to see them in about 2 weeks. Talking it thru with the counsellor helped a little - she did this rapid eye thing on me that helped me deal with it a bit better; basically its good to do for when you don't get to sleep well after hearing traumatic news and therefore don't process it the way you normally would (you know how everything seems a bit better by the morning) Well this rapid eye thing is like a sleepy state and so she makes you think of some stuff while following her finger back and forth and after about 8 goes it shifted a little for me. She said she could have done that or hypno. It still took me the rest of the week to be "OK with it" and although I am still disappointed that they got their first kind of thing, I have been able to accept it now.
It is so hard tho!
other news - just a quick one from me ladies as I am on my way out the door leaving work......
Thank you all so much for your lovely words of support over the past few days while I have been having a hard time - you are all so lovely and this really is a great place to be to get thru all this. I have BT tomorrow morning - not sure when I will pop in to let you know result but as you know I will know by tomorrow. :crossfingers: its all good. I hope you are all travelling well and be inspired as there has been BFP's happening in the 2WW - IT CAN HAPPEN & WILL HAPPEN to all of us I am sure!!!
Hi everyone,
I have been laying low and keeping a close eye on the thread. Sorry, but this will be a bit of a me post. Not much has been happening until today but things have now picked up. After 12 days on estrogen tablets in preparation for my first FET cycle, I had my BT & U/ today. After 4 attempts by 3 different people, it was decided that my lining was too thin - it was very unclear on the U/S. I now have to double my dose until Monday but was warned that it will make me nauseated. (This will only be short term)
We also spoke to the new embryologist who was great but who told us that of our 6 frozen (day two) embies, only 3 were of good quality and suggested that we defrost all and attempt to get them to blastocyst stage. Originally I thought that I would defrost all, transfer a good one at Day 3 then send rest to blastocyst.
Two hours later it was a different scenario, I was considering sending all to blastocyst and transferring 2 if they make it (however the thought of twins overwhelms me as far as the added risks in pregnancy)
Also, I was not aware that you can re-freeze the blasties if you end up with more than one, provided they make it.
Now after googling like crazy, I am just confused. That will teach me to google. What on earth did people do before the net? (Keep their sanity I suppose lol)
Anyway, sending you all sprinkles of baby dust and sticky vibes to all of you in the 2WW.
Sorry for the me post but I am feeling emotionally drained at the minute.
Hi girls - Day 5 update.....
Scientists have frozen only 2 blastocysts today. There were another 2 "early" blastocysts, as well as 5 morulas (which are basically a day behind, since you should get morulas on day 4). So the scientist said they will leave the 2 early blasties and 5 morulas until tomorrow and they will check them again then. Whichever ones make it to the right stage will then be frozen tomorrow. So who knows how many that will be (if any).
Quality-wise, of the 2 blasties frozen today, one was graded fair (3 out of 5) and was graded good to fair (4 out of 5). Will have to wait until tomorrow to find out quality of the other ones.
So all in all, results this time actually appear to be slightly worse than last time (last stim cycle we had 3 blasties good to go on day 5 - one was transferred and 2 were frozen). This time around, we only had 2 at the right stage on day 5. In future (and I really don't want to talk about this for the future, because I want a BFP very soon), but I absolutely do not want heaps of eggs at EPU. They've done me no good in the end, and I'll most likely end up with about the same number of day 5 embies as last time, when they only collected half the amount of eggs. I would much prefer less eggs but better quality.
Will keep you all posted on final results of how many get frozen.
Hope everyone is doing ok.
Wishes xoxo
Hi everyone, so many sad posts today....its good we have a place to share our sad thoughts and know that the ppl reading them understand!
Wishes: I hear you hun. Out of my 15 eggs collected it is dissappointing to only end up with 2 frozen blasties, i don't even know what grade mine are - i will have to ask at my next appointment.
Two is such a non-confident number.........what if neither defrost well, or what if both of mine are graded quite low.....i could have another stimulated cycle before the end of this year i guess - before the out of pocket expenses go up?
Hopefully it will only take one, the first one? But then i think whom am i to complain if my first transfer or stim cycle doesn't work? So many ppl have to do heaps more than that before they are successful.
Melttc: i've decided that im keeping whom i tell (about ivf) to quite a low number too atm. Selfishly I'm telling the ppl that i think it will be good for me, for them to know, ie. close fam - so i have there support, a few ppl at work - so i get support there too and then i have bellybelly. I've said to my family members who know that once i've reached the 2nd trimester (if that ever happens) that i don't care who knows about how hard it was for me to conceive or who knows that i conceived via ivf, because i will be so proud, so proud that i had to work so hard, for so long, for something that couldn't be more important in someones life, and i've learnt a lot from this journey already.
Starbright, Wishes, Tantee, Mel, Motherhood, Tracey, Nix.... EVERYONE :grouphug:
Yep basically think I sum it up for all of us when I say -
"Those biaaatches suck "
Wishes They can all go get drunk and 'fall' into their pregnancies.. like to see them produce 30 something eggs! I know in the end you didn't get a higher embie result but you know what - if nothing else it shows that your body is vrooooming to go and thats an AWESOME sign!
We ALL want this so much... and when OUR children ask how they came to be here.. we will ALL say with BLOOD, SWEAT TEARS AND A HELLUVA LOT OF LOVE!!
So let them have their stories of "mummy drunk too much champagne one night"
We are all on the warrior woman trail... I bet none of you knew yourselves, your bodies or your partners like you know them now!
I had my official result today :bfn: ... dusting myself off, wiping away the tears and saying
"bring it"
:dance:
Onja - I am so sorry to hear about your BFN. These things never get any easier. :hug:
I love your perspective on things and I will look forward to telling my children how special they are and how hard Mummy & Daddy fought for them to be with us.
Hi to everyone else and here's a little :bluedust: :pink-babydust: for you all.
mitf xo
Onja - you made me smile too! I love your attitude and hope that I can get a little of that vibe! I'm sorry that you got a negative answer. But like you say, dust yourself off and get back on it! I also love the though that our babies will be brought into this world with the most love and devotion anyone could offer & just a little different to anyone who is able to conceive naturally- you are so right!!!
I had BT this morning, nurse said she will know about 1.30pm but I asked her not to call until 3pm when she is close to finishing for the day. I just have way too much to deal with at work today to be dealing with this on top of it. But god can I not stop thinking about it!!!
Have been having period pain kind of feelings this morning.. not that I get a lot of that... please let it be something else!
I have fingers crossed for you on both hands Nix (making it a little difficult to type tho)
I really hope you get the news you are waiting for:stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl:
Good luck today Nix - :crossfingers::goodluck:
Nix - me too everything crossed. I really hope that you get the news you are waiting for. No AF is a great sign so far. I really admire your patience too at asking the nurse to wait.
Oh Onja ((hugs)) to you hun.......next time will be it. Where will you go from here? DO have to take a month off?
Nix OMG your good lol. I can understand you having to much on and not wanting to know yet, but I think the suspense would kill me lol
Onja, so sorry to hear abour your BFN, but thanks for posting such an inspirational post. I will definitely be proud to tell my kids of our journey to bring them into this world :)
I'm scheduled in for my first ET tomorrow at 4pm. Initially I was hoping it would be in the morning so I could get it over and done with, but I figure it doesn't really matter when it is because i'm just going to be on edge for the next two weeks anyway waiting... The good thing about a later appointment is that I was able to book acupuncture appointments immediately before and after the ET, so hopefully that will do the trick.
Ladies - I hope everyone is feeling a little better. I must admit, I typed a long post about all the people I know who are also pg, and most of them effortlessly so, and how cross and upset I was about them all. You were saved another rant by my computer not allowing me to post for some reason, and I decided I didn't have the energy to retype as i'm trying to be as positive as I possibly can be. It was therapeutic at least to type it, even if I couldn't post.
So, i'm sending good vibes, and positive thoughts, and :goodluck: and :bluedust::pink-babydust: and :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy: and i'm :pray: for all of u, and :grouphug: and anything else I can think of to help us along the way.
lise xx
Lise- GL for tomorrow will have my FX for you.
Nix- I hope you have heard from your nurse and its good news hun
Nix - I keeping popping in to check you news. I hope it's great news and you have just been too busy to post.
Lise - GL with ET tomorrow. I hope it all goes well and the acupuncture is nice and relaxing.
Onja: So sorry to read about your BFN:hug: Good to see your positive "bring it" attitude after such heartbreaking news. Upward and onward I say, no point dwelling on the past, time is better spent focusing on the next month. You have 1 frozen embie, will you try FET next month?
Nix: I don't think I could have waited until 3pm knowing the results were available at 1:30pm. :pray: that you get that BFP !!
Hello to everyone else - hope you are all going well in your cycles
AFM: Visited the nurse yesterday and got my IVF plan. I start synarel on the 18th Sept!
:cold: ME 35 :kiss: DH 32 & 1 cheeky furbaby
TTC #1 Since Nov 07
IVF#1 - Aug/Sept - Start synarel on 18th Sept - early days for me!
Onja - sorry about your confirmed BFN. Your attitude is fantastic though, so I commend you. I hope I can stay as positive as that.
Mummawannabe - thanks for the support. I know exactly how you feel. It's like we go through all this effort to stimulate our ovaries, and to not get the results we were hoping for hurts. Re the grading thing, I'm starting to wonder if I'm putting more pressure on myself for no good reason. I think there are heaps of girls out there who don't know what grading their embies are, but I'm such a control freak I have to know everything. I think I need to start thinking of it in terms of, the scientist say they're good enough to freeze, so their quality must be good enough too (otherwise they wouldn't freeze them). Good luck for your FET.
lise - good luck with your ET tomorrow. Hope it all goes off without a hitch.
Nix - I'm on the edge of my seat waiting to hear your results. Don't keep us in suspense.
melttc - great news that you can finally start your IVF journey. Good luck with it all.
Loops - I think you had your FS appointment today? Hope it went ok.
AFM - got my final embie results today. Another 6 blasties were frozen today (day 6 - so a little bit slower), so combined with the 2 blasties they froze yesterday (day 5), we got 8 blasties frozen from this cycle. I really shouldn't complain, because that's a pretty good result. We also still had 3 frozen from last stim cycle, so we actually have 11 blasties on ice now. So now I just have to hurry up and wait (since we all do that so well now), until I can do my FET in Oct/Nov.
Not sure how much I'll be posting in here over my break. The plan is that I actually do have a break from all things related to TTC, and in a way, that includes BellyBelly. I probably won't be able to help myself though, and may continue to sticky-beak in here to see how everyone's going. And then, come Oct, I'll be back, ready and raring to go for my FET. And I'll be keeping my positive hat on and believe with all my might that the next one will be the one for us.
Good luck to everyone and wishing you all lots of :bluedust: and :stickyvibesgirl:
Wishes xoxo
Hey Girls,
Sorry for the suspense - but it is a good sign of the great support in here!
No good news from me I'm afraid. It was a negative as I kind of thought it would be. Completely negative, nothing on the radar - never implanted. :cry: Was hard to take the news at work, nurse said she would know at 1.30pm and I asked her not to call til 3.30pm when she was ready to finish for the day. I still had so much to do from that point that I just went back to work, feeling numb, head still racing but didn't feel it enough to even cry.
She said that I have the choice of either waiting a month or going straight back into a natural FET cycle, but advised that I need to be aware that coming off a stim cycle your body can be a bit mucked up and we won't really know my cycle so well and know when I'm ovulating again. So what I gather is the only affect of that is that it will mean more BT's and US to find the exact time that I am ovulating so we then do an FET??
I said I was sure that we would go straight back as I don't want to have to wait any longer but said I would sleep on it and chat to DP.
Feeling sad, but not surprised, dissapointed and wish I knew WHY! But nurse said there is no particular reason - she said there is still a lot of luck involved and that it didn't mean it wasn't going to happen. She did say a negative on the first cycle is one of the hardest to take! I hope so - I don't want to feel like this again.
Anyway on my 3rd vodka and lucky I have a good man by my side who has cooked me dinner and is trying to keep me positive. Will allow myself to be sad tonight but try pick the chin up tomorrow and look forward!
Thanks for all the support girls - you are great!
Im so sorry Nix ((hugs))
Nix: I am so sorry to read about your results :hug:
Hi Ladies,
I am relatively new to this site. Someone pointed me to this thread although I have only just started (4 months) ttc. I thought something was wrong because with my other children it was very quick. Got checked and my FSH is 32. Just found out this week. Doc says it's very high (menopausal or ovarian failure more likely) and pregnancy unlikely. I have started TCM with herbs and acupunture. Lady there says not to try for 3months while she sorts my body out. Anyone else had this experience?
Thank you ladies
Kate
Nix: Big :comfort: :hug: to you hun. I'm so sorry to hear you got a negative result this cycle. Vodka is good for helping what ails ya :D GL with which ever way you decide to go next cycle. :pray: that your FET cycle is successful for you.
Nix, I'm sorry to hear your result was a BFN. :comfort: I went straight into a natural FET after my first IVF and actually O'd a day earlier than my normal range (CD15 instead of CD16-18). But after my other 2 IVF cycles (higher dose of Puregon than the first cycle) I O'd around a week late. Also, when I was doing the FET my FS offered to put me on clomid to help make the cycle a bit more predictable, but I declined (clomid was a nightmare for me).
Kate, I don't have experience with the FSH issue (don't actually know what mine is - must talk to my FS about that), but I'm currently halfway through a 4 month wait for my next IVF at my acupuncturist's recommendation, so I understand that part. GL and I hope the TCM/acu helps! :goodluck:
Afm, I've been lurking and reading all of your posts ladies. I'm sending you all the baby dust and sticky vibes I have. I haven't been posting because a) I haven't had a lot to add to the discussions and b) there's nothing going on for me. We're still waiting to start IVF#4, probably at the end of October at this stage... In the meantime I'm wishing you all the best of luck. :goodluck:
Hello all you lovely ladies!
I have been TTC since July 2007... on and off... probably more off than on the past year! Unexplained, had mild endo removed in March which has helped my AF sooo much.
Anyway if I don't fall preg by end of year I will go for IVF.. of course I don't want too, I did have a psychic say I would fall spring this year, which is now... so here's hoping
It is so hard to talk to friends etc about this... i keep it all to myself and do get a bit sad, but I have started to ensure I live life to the full and not give up on anything and not stop planning things 'just incase'.
good luck to each and every one of you and look forward to 'getting to know you' all better
Em xx
Nix - I am so sorry to hear about your result. :hug: I hope you are feeling a bit better today and glad to hear DH has been looking after you.
Lise - GL with your ET tody.
Wishes - it's disappointing that you lost so many embies but 8 is still a great result. 2 of my frosties are day 6 as well and one of them ended up being a hatching blastie so it shows they can be just as strong. I have no idea what grading my embies are, not sure if I want to... as you say it seems to add a bit more pressure. All the best for your break. I hope you enjoy you R&R and come back rearing to go!
Colour - Sorry can't help with your Q. Some of the other ladies might be, if not here's a link to a TTC with herbal supliments thread or TTC 1- 6 months.
Tantee ~ Sorry you're so confused as to what to do. Your FS should be able to tell you what would be best shouldnt they. GL with it all. Hugs and :bluedust:
Mummawannabe ~ I hope it does work for you 1st try. Someone has to be lucky and I hope its you! xo. And others also. FX
Onja ~ Such a fantastic attitude and very inspiring and encouraging words - thank you.
You go girl! And all the best for the road ahead. Sorry it was a negative this time round xo :hug:
Lise ~ GL today hun. Thanks for all your support and wishes xo.
Melttc ~ Glad you are getting started! All the best of luck with the journey. Hope it works out 1st time for you.
Wishes ~ thanks for asking, yes my FS appointment was today.
Your results are excellent. I didnt get any to freeze so I believe you are blessed and I truly hope they all do well for you. Hope you come back to visit and chat but have a nice break. xo
Nix ~ so sorry hun :comfort: Chin up. The way I looked at it was - i would have been guilty if it worked 1st time because others have gone through so much more than me. But also it really seems to be just the luck of the draw sometimes. We will get there, we just have to hang in there! All the best, hope you're feeling a bit better today :hug: xo
Kate ~ hi and welcome. GL with the road ahead and I truly hope you can get pregnant again. FX!
AFM ~ Had FS appointment yestie after failed 1st IVF try in August. Got some good news - he said it is looking as though we wont have to worry about the safety net being dropped and in actual fact he said we may be less out of pocket next year.
He is going to up my dosage of Synarel next time and probably the other hormones because he was disappointed with the amount of eggs we got but that will be the only difference probably. Hopefully it was just that we were unlucky this 1st round. We had a Grade A - expanded blastie transferred but that didnt stick. But I guess that doesnt mean the next one wont! I will be waiting until December and hopefully by then we will be out of debt and will be able to afford it.
Hi to everyone and sending lots of :bluedust::stickyvibesgirl: and :grouphug: