Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - February 2007

It's amazing the silly things that stress me out! My synarel times are 7am and 7pm, which work beautifully every single day but Sundays. At 7pm I'll still be in church! I'm trying to figure out how to take it in the middle of a church service... as well as stressing that I'll remember to take it with me, and switch my phone (which has the two reminder alarms set) back to vibrate only - would be nothing worse than drawing attention to myself with my phone going off then having to squirt the synarel! I guess I'm just going to have to sneak off to the bathroom... and hope it is actually at a convenient stage in the service! Anyone else have these problems?

BW

i was told not to be too pedantic with the snarel - every 12 hours is ideal, but if it's a out by a couple of hours due to another commitment, you're fine - i've been late twice in the three weeks i've been taking it, and no drama - mainly because i keep it in my bedside cupboard and wasn't home to take it!

i'm sure if you're only going to be a little late it shouldn't matter BW.

Eek! I was told not to be out by more than half an hour and that it was really important that I take it every 12 hours! It seems that right now, my stomach is trying to play up and keep me home from church anyway... ugh!

BW

Could you take it earlier rather than later BW?
Hoep your stomach stops mucking around, or maybe its just getting itself ready.......

BW, my nurses told me the same thing as BG, it's OK to be a bit late with it, I was 2 hours late one night and they told me it's not a big deal. I was very often over 12 hours and it didn't make any difference to my b/test results etc. I'd either take it in the car just before you go into church, or in the car when you get in it after church.

Thank you again everyone :) I'm still having trouble believing it. I hope it sinks in more tomorrow after my BT!

Lou, hope your transfer goes well tomorrow. It's a late one....you have to wait ALL day! lol Listen to Sez, take it easy!! ;)

BW, I took my synarel about an hour late a few times which was unavoidable and told not to stress about it.

OMGGGGG Megan:dance: SSSSsssooooooo Happy for you. I can't believe I missed all the excitement. Just goes to show I need to come on here a couple times a day, not every couple of days!! SSoooo happy ( and jealous too of course!)
Heres heaps of luck coming your way. Also for Willow too. Hope you stay sane over the next few hours till you get your BT. Wishing you sooo much luck for tomorrow.
And Lou, good luck for you tomorrow too. Take it easy and do lots of positive thinking and visualizing. :pray: :crossfingers: for all of you.
As for all the other stuff going on in here (0mg there is so much),
I too have felt embarrassed about the whole TTC thing and that is why weve kept it to ourselves so much, this time around though we are being more open (not with details about dates) and I have felt this to help a lot. It does explain some of the seemingly irrational behavior I sometimes display!!!! Also, I think the more people thinking positive thoughts for me, the better the chance of success. those of you who saw "the secret" will understand.
On another note, I cried at work on friday!!!!!!!!!!:( SOOOOO embarrassing!! Who has some coping strategies for me? Once I start I find it hard to stop and cant tell anyone why... I'm not even on drugs at the moment so I can only blame it on the stress of telling my boss what is going on. GGrrrr with myself.
Hope everyone else is well.

sazz - wish i could offer you some help on the coping strategies. i find it takes a lot to get me to the point where i cry - but once i'm there, i'm gone! i haven't burst into tears at work yet, but have been soooooooooo close a couple of times (mainly due to the stress - and anger - of being forced to tell my managers what is going on with the TTC side of my life so that they'll be flexible with work hours). i find i tend to get snappy when i'm on the verge of tears - and find it best to zone out a bit and focus on work - and then hope that no one is nice to me! i can control the tears if i keep myself angry (usually angry at myself for being so silly and getting to that point!) - but if people are nice, that's it! one of my best mates at work is brilliant - he and his wife have been through this, so if he knows i'm having a bad day, he'll send me silly messages to cheer me up - which is so sweet! i wish i could offer you more assistance.

BW - i know it's advised to take the synarel at 12 hourly intervals - mostly so that you remember to take it, but my FS said not to let it run my life and to be a little flexible. i have an alarm that goes off to remind me to use the spray, so usually i'm within 5 minutes of the twelve hour mark, but i read all the paperwork that was in with the spray, and it just said to try, but if not possible, take it as soon as you can after the 12 hours. hope you're feeling ok now after feeling crook earlier

Willow, will be thinking of you tomorrow! :) Hope all goes well.

Wow - you girls have been so busy!! It took me ages to catch up on all the posts.

I have to start with a HUGE congrats for Megan, your good news gave me goose bumps and I have still have a massive smile on my face. My BT is not till the 21/2 which seems like forever away, but I hope your news is catching.:dance: :dance: :clap:

Lou - best of luck for 2moro. You and I will be in the 2ww together.

Willow - Good Luck for Tuesday, I have everything crossed. You must have a power of strength not to have hunted down a HPT, I already have mine.

I have to take another HCG booster tomorrow, which I guess may cause a false positive? Does anyone know how long the synthetic HCG stays in your system before the body creates its own if you are pregnant?? Ive read about some girls who do a HPT each day after the HCG booster so they know for sure that its gone from their system and then wait a another few days to do a HPT. I never used to do HPT's, but have done so the last couple of times, (one which was a BFP) I figured I would rather be prepared for the official result when I am sitting in front of my FS and they announce the result.

Have had a little bit of cramping yesterday and I am very bloated & tired, other than that I am coping OK.

Best of luck to all - sorry about short personals there was such much to get through!
Congrats again to Megan.

Thanks BG. I am a bit the same as you with the nice people thing. As long as they dont go"are you ok???" and touch me I'm okay usually. Friday was just a bad day I think cause I had to tell my boss what we are doing, and I was a little nervous. Anyhow, nothing I can do about it now. Next time I saw her I just had a little joke about "I'm completely in control now!" and that seemed to make it easier cause we had a little laugh. She has been great and said not to worry about the days I may need off. So, that has releived me a lot.

Girls, thank you so much for your support but my BT isn't till Tuesday! So I have another day to wait yet.

Expecting AF any time now but hoping and praying like never before that she doesn't arrive for at least 9 months! :pray:

Megan, looking forward to the 'official' results tomorrow - maybe that will help it to sink in! :dance:

So you didn't manage to get your BT moved earlier, Willow?

I managed ok with the synarel - the sermon ended bang on 7pm, and as soon as everything was finished and the worship team were heading back up I ducked off to the loo and did the squirty thing then. With all the extra water I'm drinking, I really needed to! I am feeling heaps better than I did yesterday, though, so that certainly is something.

I didn't get any paperwork in the synarel pack - I'm really surprised that my clinic has me being so strict with it, when nobody else has that sort of instructions! Just got to remember to not take the pill again tonight. Hoping against hope that my body will NOT decide to have a bleed this time! Normally AF would arrive two days after stopping the active tablets, which means Tuesday. But Tuesday is my birthday, and I really, really don't want AF on my birthday! Hopefully I'm still close enough to the bleed I had before (and I never, ever want to experience anything like that again!) that it won't happen.

BW

Thank you ladies for your kind words and i will be back 2morrow for personels b4 i leave...........................still cleaning cupboards...........and i have to i found a ****roack in the dishwasher 2 days ago and now im freaking but so far he was a loner. MIL said its the weather but i will banish them all

Hi all,

Loula - good luck for TF tomorrow!!!

Megan - can't wait to hear your official results tomorrow.

Well as you ladies know I have been having some 'maybe' symptoms & then yesterday I felt sick all day & than again this arvo.
If I'm not pg I must be coming down with a virus but I have so much CM still, which I don't normally have at this time.
Does anyone know if chlomid can change this?

Jo - 27 (treated endo)
Dh - 33
TTC #1 since June 2005
:pray: this will be the year!

Good luck for transfer tomorrow Loula and Megan Godd luck for your beta test.
BW I just realised I am just one day ahead of you so we are real cycle buddies this time around. Re the bleeding, you kinda actually do want a bleed believe it or not. When they do the down reg scan on Fri (Sat prob for you) they will be looking for a nice thin lining so that they can get a nice fresh healthy one producing with the stim drugs for bubs to implant into. I took my last pill on Friday and have started to bleed today....so far everything is like clockwork for me......absolutely no symptoms on the lucrin which I am not sure is a good or bad thing....really not looking forward to getting up a the crack of dawn on Friday to drive an hour to the city for a scan at 7:30 in the morning. I told DH he could just bundle me in the car and wake me up when we get there....I am soooo NOT a morning person.

Big Huge Congrats to Megan, wow how unreal do you feel!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yay it is so good to see someone get their long awaited BFP, makes you feel that it could happen to us aswell.

Good luck with your transfer tomorrow Loula. Fingers crossed for you as well tomorrow Willow, you did get your test bought forward to monday?? Cant remember.

Well Kim and i went for her ultrasound and bloods on Saturday and she had 2 follicles at 14mm on CD11. So its back on tuesday for repeat scan and bloods and possibly trigger injection that night depending on the results and IUI on Thursday morning.

Our FS and i were joking and saying wouldnt it be funny if this works!! He said he is leaving town if it doesnt. Anyhow Kim has been watching House of Babies on Foxtel and shes declared she is having an elective ceasarian LOL!!! I really have a big job on my hands supporting that girl throughout her eventual pregnancy!!!

Mel, suddenly I feel so much more relaxed knowing there's someone only a day or so ahead of me. I've never had a cycle buddy before, but that's mainly been because my body has completely refused to do anything normally. I figure if I do bleed, it won't be very heavy - there's only been 10 days of active pill tablets between the last breakthrough bleed I had and yesterday when I stopped. The FS mentioned that as horrible as the bleeding was, it was what they wanted/needed anyway. There just won't have been much time for anything to build up significantly since.

DJ, I so hope this is it for you! Same for Megan and Kim. Hopefully our other Megan has got the ball rolling and we can have a mass exodus from here very soon.

Had a very emotional conversation with DH last night, about how many embryos we may get and what to do with them... There was some discussion of only fertilising 3-4 eggs regardless of how many we get, but I think we are now leaning towards my preference of fertilising them all and seeing how we go. The clinic will go to blast stage if we have more than 3 on day 2, I believe, and I suspect that if we get to that stage, then we'll probably have a lot drop off. Donating our unused embryos to others is a very real possibility for us, but I do know that we could both feel entirely differently about that when we actually have embryos and children, so we'll see how it goes. Was a very long, emotional conversation and I'm still feeling a little unsettled by it. It's one week today until I start injections! In fact, this time next week I need to be at the clinic, and that seems really scary! You wait so long for everything to start, but when it does, it really races by!

BW

Hi Everyone

YAY MEGAN - Can't wait for official news today but am very excited for you. Sending you lots of :stickyvibesboy: :stickyvibesgirl:

Fingers crossed for Willow and Lou as well.

BW - DP and I has a similar discussion about embies and freezing and how many to use and the like the other night and it left me a bit unsettled as well. I think that most of it was because he didn't really understand the process of it all (in his eyes he just does what I tell him when I tell him and otherwise ignorance is bliss). His problem as I see it is that he just assumes that it will work first time prefectly and all will be fine so we won't need more than one embie anyway. While I adore his positive approach I don't want him to be overly disappointed if it does go quite as planned.

Smiles to everyone
Taff

Jo - hope your symptoms are a sign of a BFP - when is AF due?

Willow - goodluck with your BT tomorrow & Loula goodluck with your transfer :crossfingers:

Boo - af for me is due this Saturday which seems crazy because I have been having 'symptoms' from very early on.
I can't help getting a little excited but I also don't want a huge dissappointment.
I have just never had so many symptoms before especially the cm, there is just so much all the time it's embarrasing!!!
How are you going?

Twomums - goodluck for Thursday.

Jo

WOW, I've been away for the weekend and I've missed so much!!! I'll try to cover everyone...

Megan - congratulations!!! It's so good to hear of one of us getting a BFP - it can happen!! You must be thrilled, although probably still anxious for the b/t tomorrow. GL

Willow - GL tomorrow for your b/t. I've got my fingers crossed for you! Let us know how you go.

Loula - GL with your transfer tomorrow!!

DJTTC - I really hope that all your symptoms mean you're pg. Fingers crossed for you. I hope AF stays away & you get your BFP!

TwoMums - I hope all goes well & you have your IUI on Thursday. GL

GL to everyone else that I've missed. I hope everyone had a good weekend. Our meeting is on Friday to start IVF... I'm not sure how I feel about it. Anxious I guess. I can't quite belive that we're doing it. I still hope that a week later we'll find out that we fell pg naturally this month, but I doubt it! I'm trying not to think about it because I'm sure I'll be thinking about it 24/7 once it all starts...

Hugs to all. Thank you for listening.

Jo - things are ok with me, just plodding along - hanging out for the end of April to arrive! Your symptoms sound very promising - I'll be looking out for your BFP announcment at the end of the week!

Taffy, my DH is completely different - he seems to want to know how everything works, and which drug does what and how long do I take it... In some ways he's been the more optimistic one (thinking that 10 embryos would = 10 kids!). I'm quite happy to just go with the flow for now, and start getting stressed if it looks like I'm going to get some ridiculously huge number of eggs. I'd still like to have them all fertilised, as I know that not all will fertilise, not all will grow to blast, and not all will survive freezing and thawing, and it seems to me that letting natural selection decide which eggs will make it that far is better than us deciding to only fertilise 5 eggs. How do we know that the 5 we choose will be the ones that can make it? It's a really huge thing to comprehend, and it's pretty much a role reversal here - normally I'm the one who freaks out and must have everything planned and DH will sit back and go with the flow. Strange.

Boo, April will be here sooner than you think! It feels like the year's just started, and we're already half way through February!

Sammi Jane, good luck for Friday! It's an exciting step, but very scary at the same time. I find I'm doing really well not thinking about it 24/7, as work keeps me extremely busy. Just remember, we've got Leah working for us as well, and I feel so much more relaxed about IVF because of that, and I think perhaps a little more hopeful, too!

DJ, those symptoms are very promising! :pray: :goodluck: :crossfingers: that AF stays away for a very long time!

Willow, hope the wait today hasn't been too hard on you. I guess tomorrow is test day - not long now!

BW

Hi Everyone,

I'm feeling a bit spaced out so I haven't caught up on everyone's news - sorry. I hope you're all well and fingers crossed for those who have got BTs this week, and of course transfers.

We went to see our FS today, and I must admit that I was expecting more of the same, "it's a numbers game, at your age after 3 attempts you should get a BFP", but actually, he didn't say that at all. He said that my overall egg quality has not been good, and as none of our embies have stayed, it is likely due to chromosone problems, so he wants us to test for genetic problems. We ahd the blood tests today and it will take 6 weeks to find out if there's a problem or not.

If there is they're going to use the Polscope to get past the spindle and avoid causing any problems with ICSI. It all sounds very confusing! If there is a problem we'll also have to do PGD.

So, this means a delay in the next cycle, hopefully we'll start in early April, on a different protocol called "Antagonist", which is 2 weeks shorter. If we get enough embryos the FS also wants to take them to blastocyst.

I am feeling drained and totally information overload. I was really expecting him to put us straight back onto another cycle. I am so worried about the test and if it brings up anything untoward and scary. 6 weeks seems like forever!

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

Well just thought id pop in after TF which went really well although my FS left one behine and so we had to go twice but she said that was an extra sticky one.lol

Girls can i ask why is it the on our day of TF dh and i have the biggest rows and i always feel like ****. must be that harmony thing hitting me again

Megan how did you get on today,

Willow how are you doing too

bbl

Well the BT came back and it seems I am pg but they want to check my hcg levels on Friday to make sure they are still rising as they are a bit low. I don't know how I am going to get through the rest of the week at this point. :(
Sushee, you had low hcg levels with your last pg didn't you??

oh Megan hold in there love - i know you have been down this road b4 so iam thinking of you xx

Megan hunny,

I think you did a blast trf didn't you? These usually have a lower hcg than most pregnancies because of the lateness of the implantation. My level at 13dpo was 73, which was considered relatively high for a blast trf, believe it or not. I had another BT done 3 days later, and it had gone up to 260+. That was when the coordinating nurse reminded me that you can't tell by one hcg reading how things are going. What you need to see is if your levels are doubling every 48 hours.

If you like, hun, PM me your levels and dpo, and let me have a look. I also have a reference website that shows hcg levels for IVF (taking into account age of embryos) that you may like to have a squizz at.

Megan - congrats on te positive BT - hang in there - it's only a few more sleeps til the next test.

as for me - BT this morning brought some not so good news - seems even on the higher dose of the injections my body isn't responding and i still have drastically low estrogen levels, so FS has stopped everything - no more injections, no more synarel - and no more hopes that we migt have IUI in the near future. i'm just devastated. found out while i was at work, and had to try to keep it together - survived, but only just. have to go back and see FS next week to try to work out a different plan of attack. i feel terrible - DH has been so interested in this whole process, and when i told him i could hear how much it hurt him - so i'm feeling even guiltier than i did last week

sorry, would do more personals, but i've just got home from work, and think i'm gonna go cuddle up to DH for a while and just try to block out the world.

Oh BG, I'm so sorry hun. Are you going for a FS review soon to decide the next plan of action? Hoping you have a long, much-needed cuddle with DH tonight.

I'm so sorry to hear that, BG :hugs: I hope there's a plan out there that will have you with a BFP real quick!

Megan, I hope those levels continue to rise nicely... it seems that first positive test isn't the end of the battle - something we can so easily forget in this whole process.

BW

i was pretty lucky - FS is based in melbourne but travels out to the local clinic every few weeks - turns out he's due next monday, so i only have to wait a week to see him. asked the clinic nurse if she had any ideas what might happen, and she wasn't sure - so i wait another week to find out

on the upside - DH and i got together on valentines day, and he was a little worried about enforced abstinence, so i guess that's makes life a little easier - plus our first anniversary is next weekend so can go away knowing that we dont have to be doing injections or anything (i guess every thunder cloud has a silver lining - somewhere...)

Well it seems like it's been a tough day all round.

Alex, BG and Megan - massive :hugs: to you all.

Nothing much happening here, blood test tomorrow. Hopefully I can bring some good news in to lighten the load.

Must admit, I'm pretty terrified about what tomorrow's going to bring.

Hang in there girls....

BG - I say go all out for valentines/your anniversary - a weekend away with all the trimmings sounds like a brilliant idea! I did it a few months back with my DH and it was just the best.

Megan - I know this happened to you last cycle so it must be really hard, but I just have a feeling that things are going to work out much better this time!

have just been checking out the net for a nice place to stay - can't really afford to spend a fortune on accommodation with all the reno's going on - but frankly, at the moment, i think we deserve it!

we were initially going to go back to the motel we stayed at in melbourne after the wedding, but seeing we have to go to FS next monday, we might stay home til sunday, than head to Lakes Entrance or something... will have to scope it all out.

yeah, sounds like a good idea - feeling a little happier already!

WTG BG. We were in the same boat, couldn't really afford it but I just said 'bugger it, we've been through 12 months of hell and we bloody well deserve it'!

If you were in NSW I could have recommended some great, relatively cheap places in the Blue Mountains ;)

Have no idea where/what Lakes Entrance is but it sounds good

hey Willow - waiting with baited breath sweetheart! Good luck!

BG - Lakes Entrance is very nice, some great places to stay! Im sure you will have a really nice time

spoke to DH and we're all booked in for Sunday night - found a place that has a deluxe spa room, champagne and choccies, dinner and breakfast, 4 star accommodation...... hmmmmm, decadance!!! looking forward to the weekend now!

good luck with your test tomorrow willow!

Willow, good luck for tomorrow. It would be an excellent birthday present for me - to have news of your BFP. I think the only better news I could have would be news of my own, but it looks like that will have to wait for DH's birthday in March. I've got everything tightly crossed for you!

BW

Well... the answer to the question of would I have another period even though it's only been 11 days since the last one ended is yes. :( And as predicted, arrived on my birthday too.

BW