Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - Jan 2008 #2

oh my god, my list of questions is growing!!! I've not been on the pill for about 8 years!

it all seems so backwards. Thanks for the info BW - you ladies really are fantastic :)

Ohhh this is sooooo going to make me sound like Ive got it all down pat....LOL..... I havent Hazy......I m learning as I go, just like you are.

Ohhh and Hazy..... when I first logged on Briggsy helped me..... more than she probably knows......... very very wise one there!!!!!!

"Endometriosis is a common condition which is affected by oestrogen. It is associated with pelvic pain and infertility.

Endometriosis causes cells of the uterus to be found outside the uterus itself. It is difficult to make the diagnosis of endometriosis and the surgical treatment of the condition can also be a challenge. Endometriosis is often without symptoms and is therefore commonly found without intention during procedures like ultrasounds and autopsies. The diagnosis of endometriosis is an extremely important one to make. It is a condition that has major effects on patients both physically and mentally. It is associated with an increased risk of cancers including ovarian, breast and skin; it has also been associated with an increased incidence of autoimmune disease. "

"endometriosis, a painful condition that affects one in 10 women, usually of childbearing age. In addition to painful menstrual periods, it can cause fertility problems, heavy bleeding, painful intercourse and appears to be associated with autoimmune disorders such as rheumatoid arthritis, lupus and thyroid disorders."

"Endometriosis, simply put, is when the lining of the uterus, or the womb, is located where it should not be: outside of the uterus,"

Hoped that helped. Because of having a FS that wasnt good from the point of communication, I have had to rely on everyone on here and on web sites.... the above quotes are from "the virtual medical center" sometimes you find out more than you wanted to know, but like you, i m inpatient and want to know now.....LOL

i'm a little like BW - and a lot not like her!!!

i don't have a cycle at all - and my FS isn't able to give me anything that my body will respond to to help me ovulate and create a natural-ish cycle for the FET - some FS' prefer you to ovulate for transfer, but for some, they're happy to build a lining to the uterus and transfer with lots of support afterward (i still don't get how this can work, but hey, i'm no FS!!)

For BW, she goes on the pill, stops it, gets AF, then takes drugs to force her to ovulate - FET after ovulation

For me, i go on the pill, stop it to force AF to visit (she might not show for 6 months otherwise), then on HRT (the stuff they use on post-menopausal women) - which should create an edometrial lining - once that is confirmed, we'll stop that, transfer, and then be on luteal phase support to try and help the embies stick - it's all very complex!!!

AB/Hazy - there is probably a slightly increased risk of ectopic pg in ivf - but i think the main reason the friend is having a lap before AI (IUI) is bacause you actually DO ovulate - so they need to make sure there is no endo stopping the egg getting to the tube, and no blockages stopping the egg and sperm meeting...

wow, soooo much information, thanks for the info AB for the quotes - I do get painful AF (aunt flo - what a classic!) pains but I've had them ever since I got my AF - look can I just call it Aunt Flo, thats way too funny to abbrev. In last 6 - 8 months though I've noticed that my breasts get sore just before Aunt Flo - that's never happened to me before. For the last 6 months I thought I was pregnant only to be disappointed with the unwanted arrival of Aunt Flo.

I know a young woman (she's about 21) and at puberty didn't get her Aunt Flo. So the natropath or doctor (can't remember which) put her on the pill to 'force' her Aunt Flo. So, she'd been on the pill for years and stopped taking it a few years ago & Aunt Flo stopped also. The doctor investigated this and found she had a tumor on her brain that affected her Aunt Flo business.

Hazy...... I cracked up at some of the abbreviations as well, but its funny I havent even been a member for a month and now they are second nature. Hubby and I had been trying to work them all out. Ohhhhh did we come up with some beauties. The first one I came accross was TTC..... I thought.. wow what is that, is it painful, can you catch it..... found out what it meant...... ohhh boy did i laugh at myself. As for AF.... ohhhhh had me in stitches.... now i use them all the time even when I m not on the computer... told hubby.... just dont know if Auntie Flow is going to visit this month or whether I ll get a BFP. Funny thing now is that he knows them as well.


Briggsy..... I might be new at assisted concepttion but i m not new at emotional rollercoasters, unfortunately. ...... Please if i can even just be an ear at times, dont hesitate.

thanks AB - there's just been some stuff with the pill giving me grief, on top of the three year thing - i kinda spat it all out in my journal - i find lots of support on BB - but i tend to keep to my journal when i'm not actively cycling - i come in here to support others and kinda forget to mention stuff with me! even my poor journal had been neglected for a week - but i updated today!

Briggsy, sometimes the most supportive people need a shoulder. I completely understand helping others in here and you have been a tremendous help to me as well as many others, just know the shoulder is here. I m on messanger.... I m here ok..... thats all!

thanks AB!

you might regret that one day though - i don't "lose it" often, but when i do, it's a massive one! i've had many a minor tanty in my journal when things are going to hell!

Ohhhhh girl I am the queen of tanties...... Ohhhhh I can go off and you cant even understand what I m typing.... its like some creature has posessed me and is speaking jibberish... dont worry... all good here... very big shoulders

AB - thanks for the welcome I went to the hotel gym in melb and have started using mine I have also been to the pool to check out the Aqua classes.

Hazy - Ask what you need sweet our 5th ICSI cycle is in April and I have asked my FS almost every q you can think of. Best of luck with your appt tomorrow.

Hi to all the other readers and posters I promise I will get on top of things soon

New thread time, ladies (and me :p).