Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - July 2007 #2

you don't need to be ready to go again straight away hun - but being armed with the info WHEN you're ready will make it a hell of a lot easier to take those steps. take care - and good luck with your investigating.

well, i'm being a sooky la la today. was feeling really good last night and decided to pull down the masking tape from where we've been painting. i've been climbing up and down ladders and all over the couch for the past 2 weeks so had no issues climbing on the couch again last night - oops!!! lil miss BG had a nasty fall! thankfully DH was sitting on the other end of the couch, so he managed to somehow stop me from falling onto the floor and i landed flat on my back on the couch - and might i say, for a comfy couch, the thing still felt like it was made of concrete when i landed!! i'm ouchy everywhere, but have taken myself to the chiro for a check (and lots of fixing) and just keeping an eye on things now - think it's mostly muscular pain, although chiro isn't sure if i've cracked a rib (this he tols me in between laughing at my obvious stupidity!)

oh well, on the upside, i guess i'll be taking it easy while i'm cycling now - DH has grounded me (quite literally!)

Hi everyone

Just a quick hello as I have only gotten home and I am starving!!

BG - excellent news on starting your cycle... you are not too far behind me at all! You need to take care of yourself though... good thing DH was around to catch you - pity he didn't have a video camera on - you could have been rich from funniest home videos - maybe you could recreate it?? Only joking... rest up hun!

Lou - good luck with the clomid

BW - glad to hear you are getting back on track... I know what you mean about needing the support of your DH now but in the meantime we will try to be there for you when you need us - take care hun and keep writing that list!

Holly - thanks - I will keep an eye out for the postie for the CD and let you know when it arrives.. and I have bought a new box of liners the other day so hopefully I am set

Sarah - I hope your spotting settles down very soon...

Me - nothing much going on here really. Had acupuncture last night and felt a bit of a twinge this morning but no real activity in the ovary department. It will be interesting to see how the scan goes tomorrow morning. And I am feeling a bit different from last cycle - not as emotionally up and down - not sure if it is because it is a flare, or maybe because I am doing my injections at night now, or maybe there less stress - or a combination of all 3!! Anyway, I am not complaining - still very tired and hungry lots though!

Anyway, take care all and good luck with those people doing b/ts tomorrow.
Cherylxxx

And I forgot to say... (synarel brain - what can I say? :rolleyes:)... my acupuncturist gave me some chinese herbs for DF to take... 4 capsules AM and PM... they are a pre-prepared formula called Sexual Function. Of course DF thinks that people will think he is having viagra issues IYKWIM ;) but he is taking them anyway - I told him that I could ask if they came in an injectable form if would prefer :D The herbalist says that we should see changes in 30days of taking them :crossfingers:
Cheryl

so much going on here girls and rols...

BT was a BFN - no surprises, but still mjor disappointment.

appointment with FS next tuesday..

So sorry Sonya...heartbreaking...great that your FS can see you so soon...hang in there hun xxx

Bad luck Sonya. Keep at it.

sonya, i'm so sorry to hear your result.

take care hun

Hi all,
I posted in the TWW thread, so i won't tell the whole story again (you can read it there), but I got a :bfp: on Wednesday.
I thought i'd just post a quick note here, in case someone saw my new signature and thought i was holding out on information.
Personals later, but huge thanks to everyone for their support.
Jo

yay yay and yay again!

that's great news for you and your DH hun!!! best of wishes for a happy and healthy pregnancy

Awesome! Well done!

Congrats jo - i hope you enjoyed your trip away, with many more family holidays to come !!!hehehehe

hiya lou! how's things?

do you have any idea when your FET will be hun?

good with me - still popping the clomid pills.

then have to wait to serge!!which could go on for over a week like last time!!

hope every one else is doing well

ohhh, looks like we might end up being TWW buddies hun!

Oh hope you can keep me sain this time and dont let me get to any HPT!!!hehe.

So has mac got you on the IUI again?? have you started your injections yet??

we're on day four of injections today - u/s on monday to see how things are progessing.

i think we're giving IUI one more shot, and then onto IVF if need be

can't promise the no HPT thing - maybe we'll need to keep each other strong!

Congratulations on your BFP Jo :)
I haven't been around for a couple of days and thought I would have pages to catch up on, but it seems to have been very quiet in here.
The funeral was yesterday so it was a long and emotional day (made more emotional by the fact it was at the same chapel and cemetery as my Dad's funeral). Today is a new day, the sun is out and we are looking forward to some good things happening. I think we're due for good news by now! ;)
Last night I had the worst synarel headache ever. I squirted and must have had the nozzle pointing the wrong way and it bloody hurt! I couldn't believe the pain, it was instant and I felt it burn all the way up and the headache was instant. I tried sitting up for a bit, but within half an hour had to go to bed. I couldn't keep my eyes open my head hurt so much and my nose was all blocked up. Thankfully I start FSH injections tomorrow and I can't wait because they should make me feel a bit better.

Hi Ladies,

Congrats Jo on your BFP!!! Yippeeee Im so very happy for you. There were about 5 of is in the TWW & looks like you made it. Big Hugs! Here's to an awesome pregnancy for you.

Me - Looks like my blastie went to heaven and I dont know when. That B#!CH AF came to visit me today on and off. I hate her. I was praying it was an implantation bleed for about 4hrs. I wouldnt stop hoping, I was holding on for dear life literally. Then, AF burst in & slammed the door shut with such gusto. I hate her! I was suppose to have my BT on Monday to confirm pregnancy. I still have to go to make sure its a BFN. DH very disappointed and our house is now silent with pain. No words can be said.

Tracey

Thanks to BG, Lou, Rols, TL and Megan. Sorry that AF came TL.

When you said about the family holiday to me the other day Lou, i told DH and he just smiled all goofy. We thought it was the nicest thing to say. Then last night someone offered me a red wine and he nearly lept down their throat saying i wasn't feeling well and wasn't drinking. Talk about give the secret away.
Thanks to everyone for their great support in the times when i was really down in the dumps, or feeling sorry for myself, and for helping me understand this whole process so much better. The last 3 and a half years have been hard, but i have coped so much better in the last 8 months with all your practical and emotional support. Thank you all very much, and I'll try to sneak quietly out the door now, but I will be keeping a close watch on you all. Good Luck to everyone.
Jo

ah jo - im glad DH liked my thinking - wishing you a wonderful 8+ months and hope to share the journey with you xx

Megan - im so glad that you have closure now for DH granny, not that the saddness in her passing will ever go completely. and im sure you will get some possitive news soon hun - are you still at clayton?? i moved to Richmond just incase i might get my DFS !!but no luck so far - hes always away or busy with his clinics.

hi to all

Rols - your a little quite are you OK love??

Hi - have just done a quick read to catch up on everything so some responses may seem a bit delayed. I was in bed two days this week with a migraine so has taken me a while to get back in the swing of things. Despite what my mood says I am happy to say I am no longer crappy!

Firstly I just wanted to say how sad I was when I read your news BW...I am thinking of you & DH through this hard time.

Megan sorry to hear about DH's grandmother...you guys have had it pretty tough lately. Hope you are both alright.

Sonya & Tracey- sorry to hear your news. hope you are both okay.

I have just started my first round of IUI. Today will be my fourth day of Puregon injections. I had to get DH to do my first one but I am fine with it now, just had to get the first one out of the way I guess. Having my first blood test on Monday to see how things are progressing. I am so excited to have started it still feels a bit surreal. BG looks like where both up to injection #4 today? Might have to bug you if I have any 'first timer' questions...

Jo - CONGRATS - was so happy to read the good news!all the best for your pregnancy

Hi to Rols, Sparkles, Sarah, Sushee, Shannon, Holly, Cheryl, Mummy2, Nic, Lou & anyone else I have missed.

Hi everyone

Traceylee and Sonya - sorry to hear your news... take care of yourselves

Jo - YAY! Congrats on a BFP and a bit earlier than you expected? From memory you were doing a b/t on 20th? Anyway, well done... so excited for you!!

Hi Ali - day 4 of injections - you and BG are only a few days behind me... and given that I was on injections for 17 days last time... who knows... we might all be in the TWW together? :pray::pray::pray:

Holly - got the CD yesterday thanks - will try to find tomorrow to sit down and listen to it. Thanks again.

Hi to Nic and Rols and Ellie and BG and Sarah and Lou and Sushee and Mummy2 and Hippymum and everyone else that I missed. Hope your weekend is going well.

Just a small update from me - had my scan yesterday - all is on track and looking better than last cycle, so that is good news. More injections and back for another scan on Tuesday. I am feeling so much better about this cycle and I think taking the injections in evening might be part of that... allows my body to cope with the hormones while I am sleeping rather than during the day with all of the stresses going on!

Anyway, take care all and talk soon.
Cherylxxx

i'm day 4 too Chez!

which reminds me - time to go get the injection happening...

Jo - congratulations, I wish you better luck in escaping this thread than I had.

Tracey - I'm so sorry to hear your news :hug:. I know there's nothing to say now that will make you feel better, I hope you have more success next time.

Lou - I'm surprised they're allowing you to go straight into a FET cycle, I had to wait a cycle in between, and I think they'd have made me do that even without the OHSS. I'm hoping this plan works for you.

Me... little tired, very sleepy, very, very HURTY! Arthritis pain is giving me absolute hell, which really keeps the loss in the forefront of my mind - so cruel! Trying to shift my focus to the future and trying again... not always successful. Survived a quick visit with the family today... cuddles with my 4 year old nephew have been very healing.

:hello: to those I have missed... just too sore to type much more, sorry. Thinking of you all.

BW

BW - so sorry to hear the arthritis is giving you grief again - hoping you can get some relief soon

take care hun

Today, I decide to put my sad story behind and start to look forward to what future brings on, and coming back to this thread is the first step I took. I feel warm in the heart to see all the familiar faces but just need to do a bit catch up on everyone's progress..

Jo, congratulations on your BFP! I am so thrill for you and enjoy every minute of it!

Sonya and Tracey, sorry to hear this cycle didn't work out for you...

BG, Chez and Ali, hope everything goes well and soon you will be in TWW! (oh, well, I know that's torture but at least no injections LOL)

Ellie, how are you going hun? AF turned up yet after D&C? I hope its on its way...

BW, I hope your bleeding stopped and now just trying to get your body rhythem back...glad to hear the trip to visit family helped the healing process ...

I didn't have much bleeding after D&C, just watery red and its pretty much stopped now, a few cramps here and there, so physically its on the mend...but I don't when AF will turn up but again a waiting game, I am pretty good at playing that now...today, I am going to get a new diary and hope this one will end on a high note....

:hello: to lou, Megan, Rol and everyone else I missed...

Hi all - well there really are a lot of mixed feeling at the mo, and my heart goes out to all of you- i dont know if the clomid is working but im a little sensetive to all your news at the mo and even welled up watching a movie last night- why do i always have to get the depression side effect??? oh and my right side is giving me some pain hope its not the OHSS not setteled down after my last cycle.

Sonya and TL, BW, BB- my thoughts are with you.

Ellie, Rols - where are you- hoping that you are OK?

Bw- I was surprised that they let me go on straight onto a FET too maybe they just want me out the door with all the Q and resurch that i keep throwing at them from BB. hehe I did think that they would check my ovaries befor they put me on the clomid but they didnt, so how do they know if i will still have enlarged ones, as i know that clomid can aldso cause OHSS, and with regards to the multipul pg my FS just said well were going to put back two anyway!!!

BG- how are you going hun - you sound brighter with your last post (i know it was only short though) but i am a little worried about you, your mood says your doubful??I can understand your thinking and please discuss with mac when you see him next its no good for you if you are feeling like this is not for you even befor you start? DYKWIM? Oh and my DH will be away for another three days this week too so if you want a chat ill be here!

Chez - great news on your results so far - like i have said before my DFS told me that they get better results from the 2nd go for some reason - i think they get the drug thing a bit better and also 'we' know what to expect so i think that takes a little stress away! Look at jo - hoping that will be you too hun.x

Well i better go and take my clomid befor i forget !!!!AGAIN!!!!and help DHubby to tidy up ready for friends coming over for lunch xx

hi all

BeiBei - the first few steps will be hard hun. i hope you're doing ok.

lou - hope the ohss isn't still giving you grief - am very surprised that they didn't do a quick u/s or at least a BT to check your hormone levels. sounds like the clomid might be working though hun and it shouldn't be too long before FET for you - yay!!

as for me - i'm doing pretty well at the moment. was doubtful of what i was feeling last night, but i think i was trying to over analyse things cos i was really tired. am getting some nigglings around my ovaries - feels kinda like a bit of strained muscle pain, but not consistent - it's pretty much the same as what i felt last OI cycle (which i kept thinking was muscle strain from gardening! lol!!) - so i think i'mfeeling ok that things are starting to happen. i also got that first feeling of pureon-induce sore bb's last night - cameon rather suddenly, hung around for a whle, then went away again, but it happened, which gives me more confidence that the lower dose is doing something! - just hoping for a couple of decent dominant follicles at tomorrows u/s....

Hi Guys

Well this place is really doing its job at the moment supporting people through the highs and lows of LTTC & AC.

BW - So sorry to hear of your loss.. you are an extremely strong woman and my thoughts and prayers are with you.

Sonya & TL - So sorry this cycle wasn't successful, but that you will be leaving us very soon!

And Jo - Congrats so much ive been watching you closely after sharing my last cycle with you i was hoping everything would fall into place for you.. and fill me with a little hope too! Congrats hun and i hope a wonderful 9 months lies ahead!

Hi to everyone else hope things are going well... and we have a few more BFP's this month!

Love Shan

Ok, I have finally caught up on the news over the last few days.

Jo - HUGE Congrats on your BFP!

Sonya, sorry about your BFN B/T, and Tracey, so sorry that AF arrived. Lots of hugs for you both.

BG - hope there are some beautiful follicles on your u/s tomorrow. Will be thinking of you.

Chez - Goodluck with your U/s as well, will be thinking of you as well :)

BW - Ouchies at the arthritis pain.. Hope it settles very soon.

Big hello to anyone I missed...sorry!

Not a lot happening here. My spotting seems to have stopped, WooHoo!

Nic

HI everyone, I have been out of touch for awhile... but am back now!
So good to hear that some of you are getting good news, but very sorry to hear about those who arent! I wish everyone the best of luck for what you are going through right now!!

As for me, im on my 3rd and final IUI cycle. Im actually in the 2ww - BT scheduled for 6th August - but, there arent many people in that forum - and i'm lonely!!

BG - are you trying IUI again?
Alicat - I would love to help you by answering any questions you might have... I feel like im an old pro at all this IUI stuff now!! Also, talking about it kind of helps me deal with it a little bit better! I truly hope your first cycle is a success!!!

Hope everyone is having a fabulous weekend xx

hi karena and welcome back hun! i seen your post in the tww thread, but hadn't replied cos i only tend to flit in and out when i'm not actually "there" iykwim? you mentioned your IUI being painful this time around - i noticed that last time. my cervix just didn't want to play ball! hoping it's much better this time!

we're trying IUI again this cycle and after that, who knows? (kinda hoping the "after that" involves a BFP to be honest :) ) i'm having my first u/s tomorrow (day 6) to see how my ovaries are behaving on the lower dose of puregon this time (150IU) - have been having some twinges similar to when i was on 200IU, so here's hoping it's a good sign! When do you have your u/s ali?

sorry for no other personals - am on the recovering end of a short lived but very nasty migraine this afternoon. just a quick question for anyone that has had puregon injections - have you noticed any blood pressure problems at all? i know my headaches of late have partially been due to my neck being out, but the dizzy spells haven't been (nor today's headache - my neck is feeling fine) - it's like i have a low BP for a while (stood up from weeding the garden), and then the headache later starts off like it's gone too high to counteract it or something... i had first dizzy spell this week after starting puregon again so just wondering if there's a link, or whether i'm just one of those lucky people that gets silly coincidences like that? be my luck that it's just me!

I'm not sure when I have an u/s BG. Have my first blood test tomorrow morn to see if the dose I am on is doing anything. I think I am on a really low dose to start off with - 50 IU. I am guessing that if the blood test shows no change that they will increase the dose? At what stage do they usually do the u/s?

it depends on your response Ali. i went through a similar protocol to yourself when we first started out - unfortunately i'm one of those troublesome patients that didn't respond well to start out!!

the protocol we should have done back then was injections for a few days, BT, then once a response is noted from that, u/s was booked.

Best of luck for tomorrow hun!

Hi Alicat - Each cyle of IUI that I have done, my dose has always been 50IU. I think the dose is dependant upon your ability to ovulate. Thankfully, I havent had a problem in that area... its just the actual 'getting pregnant' part that I fail in! After your BT tomorrow - they will call you to let you know when the next BT AND u/s is... good luck - I hope you dont have to wait too long!

BG - thanks for the warm welcome! I completely sympathise with you about the headaches, I have never associated it with low BP - only with the injections. The headaches and breakouts start the day following my first injection - and they continue until a couple of days after the last! I hate it... but I guess it all comes with the territory!

Also, this cycle - I have been very prone to bruising - I almost feel like the hormones are affecting my circulation... I have 2 really big bruises on my stomach from where I have had some of the injections... and bruises all over my legs!
So - the IUI cycles arent really that much fun for me I have to say!

BG - I hope your u/s goes well tomorrow... I had mine last week - I had a follicle that was almost an inch in diameter... they booked the procedure for the very next day! Hope you get a good result too! Oh - and my poor DH - I asked him to come in with me this time and the nurse said to him... 'by the way... you produced a very healthy sample this time'... I think she was trying to make him feel important - but he just went bright red! Poor guy!

Good luck everyone... xx

i don't have to do the synarel or anything like that anymore because my body responded to it too well and wouldn't respond to the puregon, so now when i go for u/s, if things are looking good, i start having an antagonistinjection every 24 hours until follies are ripe then trigger - the anotagonist stops me ovulating before i'm supposed to

just another needle each day... LOL

thanks for the info Karena & BG. Will see what they say tomorrow. Good luck with your u/s BG.

Hi to everyone else...hope this is a good week for everyone :)

Where does everyone do their injections? Is thigh or stomach easier? I was thinking thigh, basically for logistics (LOL) cos I can sit down & see what I'm doing!

Tomorrow is the big day!!

Stomach. I tried one in the thigh and... lets just say it didn't go well. It HURT! The tummy ones went much better. I remember Melbel explaining that the drug would be absorbed better from there rather than injecting into legs or bottom.

BW

i did my injections in my stomach. but thats coz im an itty bitty girl with no fat, so my tummy is the softest part of me...

BG - i was on puregon for about 2 1/2 weeks and my bp was all over the place. i always felt tired, run down and dizzy. i chewed alot of panadol from intense headaches!!! i also found it took a couple of weeks after last injection for me to feel normal again. im just so glad i took Elevit otherwise i probably wouldnt have had the energy to get out of bed some days.

good luck for todays scan..

me - seeing FS tomorrow lunchtime

quick question. i had a natural transfer cycle but a couple of odd things happened. for starters i spotted for a couple of days (which has NEVER happened before) usually AF just comes in one mighty hit! then just before i got AF i passed - WARNING TMI ALERT!!- what was like a small membrane thingy.

DH believes i fell pregnant and had a miscarriage coz i was sooooo sick. im sure that may be the case, but i would have only been 2 weeks pregnant... should i tell my FS about this or am i just reading into it all too much?