Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - July 2007

BG - Sorry about the B/T. sending lots of hugs :hug: You and I can wait together hey... :)

Nic

Rols his TZI was 1.88 so from what you said in the okay range. I agree with you that it is weird what they consider "normal" & is strange to hear that one place can differ so much with another when considering what is normal. It is all so confusing!

Sparkles - rant as much as you need to. I understand totally - until they have to go through what we are going through it is very hard for them to fully understand what we are feeling & how to cope. That is why I love BB so much because I feel free here to express my feelings without feeling like I am alone in this. It is much easier to go through this journey with so many others that know the feelings/emotions that you are experiencing. No judging just advice & comfort.

I think DH is okay about things at the moment. I think it helps in a way that it is both of us that have the infertility issues so neither one feels like they are to blame. Mind you I definitely feel like it is my fault alot of the time but DH reassures me - I just need to remind myself that it will happen when its meant to. I am just hoping that if we give IUI a go first that it gives us some positive news. Even if I don't get a BFP it would be nice to know that my body is ovulating as it should cause then at least it is a step in the right direction. I just don't know how my PCOS will affect the success of the IUI.

BG - from memory you have PCOS? Am I right about this? Has your FS said how many goes of IUI you should try before looking at your other options? How do you find the treatment?
How long is each IUI cycle or does it just depend on when your body responds to the hormones? Sorry for all the questions but am really interested in getting your opinion as you are going through it at the moment.

bg - sorry about the negative result. best of luck for your future rounds whenever you decide to start again. this is just SOOOOO FRUSTRATING, isnt it?

Good Afternoon Precious People,

Rols - DH has same coin, heads & tails. FS suggested he have "boys" removed surgically tomorrow. DH was upset and said no, will do a cup (it really makes no diff, only used for Vasec usually). Tomorrow he will cup & if not reaching 3% will put him in to take 'em. He is also fasting from 12 tonight. What a day you have had! Maybe you are going into sympathy for DW when she starts her injections. I guess its better it hits you all in one day than it spread over a week. Good to get it out. Makes me feel quite normal when I have days like that!

Megan - how's hubby doing now. Are you guys ok? He home?

BG - Oh honey, Im so sorry about your results and your heartache. I know the feeling of set-back. Have you thought about freezing the "boys" for when you need them? Im sure its an option. I know I would. My thoughts are with you and DH at this time.:hug:

Chez - Yey you have your treatment plan. It helps having that to focus on now. Nice that you are going to spoil yourself with your hot chocky. Thanks for your words of encouragement.

Sonya - 5 sleeps to go!! Yippppeeeee. Have a restful weekend, it may be your last weekend "unpregnant". Is that even a word? How about - May every weekend after this one, you be with child. Thats better wording.

All - Was reading chocky craving is a sign of a lack of magnesium. Hope not, Im hatching & want every vitaman & mineral in all eggs. Seems like a lot of people are back from, having & going on holidays. Its so good to have a break!

Me - Trigger last nite nearly made me pass out (like a nail). Got it in & then when I tried to remove it, was watching my skin go up with the needle. Eeeewwwwwww. Gave a big tug & nearly threw up on DH who had his face at my tummy watching. Left a nice "piercing". Sore boobs now, its the estrogen overload. Drinking lotsa water but should ease tonight after Crinone.

Take it Easy All,

Tracey

Howdy everyone!!!

So sorry everyone's having a rough time of it all ... seems to be contagious, as I've had a horrible time of it too today ...

I wrote it in a vent (didn't think you all need to cop my anger ;) ) but the long and the short of it is we're going to have to look at Melbourne for IVF, I have completely lost all faith in the Tassie IVF system.

We know sod all about Melbourne IVF clinics, I've contacted Monash and Melbourne IVF, is there anywhere else we should be looking???

:grouphug: To everyone and here's hoping we all have a better day tomorrow.

hi everyone

thanks for all your kind words - and i'll apologise in advance for so few personals - DH and i have taken a "fiver" from cleaning walls so thought i'd pop in here very quickly.

Ali - in answer to your question - yes, unfortunately i do have PCOS - FS has said a couple,maybe three IUI cycles before moving to IVF - if it's not a positive next IUI, we'llpushfor IVF (mainly from the financial perspective considering we've reached the medicare threshold (or are pretty close to it anyway). it's a very calculated move, but if we can save a few hundred quid (or more) - why not?

IUI has been, for me, a lot of trial and error - my journal is packed with info about what we've been through, but basically a "cycle" is pretty much standard 28 days - once the injections start - and two weeks of nasal spray or lucrin before that - no need for down reg with the pill - i've had two cycles cancelled due to lack of response (even with the injections i didn't o) - but the third one we omitted the synarel and got a perfect response. the treatment is very similar to a stim cycle - the only thing is that, 24 hours after trigger shot, you get hubby to produce his sample, it is cleaned, and then injected back into your uterus (not comfy, but not too bad!)

feel free to ask as many questions as you like - it may not be a possibility for everyone though - as soon as male factors enter into it, IVF is usually suggested.

gotta get back to work - time to mask around the window!

hey all,
IM so sorry BG :hug:
Tracey-wow you poor thing, but it will be worth it
Ali- ueah i know how frustrating it is to not ovulate i didnt for 7 months until clomid now i think im back on track ( needed a kick start) i used to think i just wanted to be in a two week wait!!! Good luck xo
Rols- i dunno what hubbys BT were for just well being i think HIV etc etc, same as mine even thgough ive had it all done before, thyroid etc i think it must be a standard thing they do before going through IVF?? they sent us to a bulk billing one thank goodness

Well i am off to the treadmill to relax and let off some steam, thanks for listening all
xoxo

Hi everyone

I have had a vegie day today just watching movies since it so cold and wet outside. I guess it is my first completely relaxing day where I haven't had to go out of the house and do some job or task so it has been a while coming!

To all those needing to have a vent or rant today, go ahead. There must be something in the air - I have had a killer headache all day which panadol just won't budge, hence the taking it easy thing. And AF symptoms have completely disappeared and am now up to CD27 which means she should already be here or turning up very soon! I have NO IDEA what is going on with my body at the moment!!

Anyway, take care all and good luck with transfers. Hope that this weather encourages the embies to snuggle tight into mum!!

Cherylxx

Hi Diva

We are at Melbourne IVF. I didn't even realise there was another clinic (Monash) - we just blindly followed the andrologist's referral, so can't really help you with any other alternatives. But if you need some info about Melbourne IVF, let me know and I will try to help out as much as possible.

Cherylxx

Hi all,sorry to hear your bad news BG i hope your ok.
Hey HOLLY hope your feeling ok now. TRAC Wow how exciting so glad things are coming along and going well. Hey CHEZ hows things going??
Me-well spoke to the nurse today and start the pill in the morning.Start my spray on the 24th of July then the shots on the 8th of August.Egg pick up is all booked in for the 20th if all goes to plan:pray:.

Hey,

Mum of 5 - Yay..... you're on, yipppeeee.

Diva n Dan - You flying from Tas to Melb every time? Thats quite a huge thing to do. Things are expensive anyway without the cost of travel but I guess, you just have to do, what you have to do. Hope you find good FS there. I dont know any, Im from Syd.

Chez - Take a PT, AF is bound to come then. Works every time. Good that you had a movie day. I lurve those days.

Tracey

Tracey, I'm not quite following re your bloke and needing surgery to extract the sperm. I thought they usually only did that in cases of obstructive azoospermia or when a vasectomy has been performed. As he is obviously producing OK for his SAs I don't quite get it. Can you explain a bit further?

Diva, I have sent you a PM.

Hey Rols,

We dont get it either thats why DH said no just a cup. True; only vasec & obs. DH has been having his prostate checked over the last couple of months with Urologist & only just got the all clear on Tuesday (good timing). Maybe this was related, I dont know. We will ask when we see him next why he suggested it in the first place but as yet, no info. Will let you know next Wed.

Tracey

tracey - best of luck with your epu tomorrow...heres hoping for good numbers...

Hi Everyone

Bg - So sorry hun..will try to catch you on msn

Tracey - best wishes for epu

Sorry so short...DH needs to computer...will catch up tomorrow xxx

Hey Trac it is abit exciting. Good luck tomorrow. It would almost be like the night before christmas waiting for santa to come. Good luck darl im :pray: for you both.

ok, here goes, guys, i have a bit mroe time today so hope to get to most of you. There are so many of us, i will do my best.

Rols, Babe, You need a nice foot rub! I hope it improves. To be honest it is great to hear a bit of fire from you. You are usually so calm and collect. Reading your post really made be laugh hard!!! I giggled for the rest of the hour. You are so right there are too many tossers out there soemtimes. We come in all shapes and sizes and we all give ourselves a hard enough time with out the help of others!! As for moving and getting yoru shed sorted...well it sound like someone needs to have a clean out...i can't talk, but i am not working full time so i have no excuse! And i am a bit of an organiser (sleeping with the enemy style- all labels facing the front) most of the time. So i look forward to doign the spring clean. I know i am a nutter.

Alicat, Happy Birthday for Hubby and good luck for the SA. The doctor was telling us (hubby has good, mostly wellbehaved boys) that it takes few months for lifestyle to effect SA. We were worried for one of his tests because it was a bit of a stressful week. They said that if the stress was a few months ago and for a decent time then it would have an effect. So stopping smoking will definately help and good on him for quiting. It is a huge thing to some and a wonderful gesture to you unborn child. You need that kind of commitment for this journey. You are lucky to have him. So happy for you to have had the time with your niece. I am looking forward to that myself. It will help put you in the right zone too which is important. Other than that, you can just enjoy giving a little person all the love you can muster. An awsone feeling! I hope she has a little cousin soon to play with.

Sparkles, Boy what a day. Ahhh! Don't you wish you could scream. It would be a good thing to listen to those who are qualified, and then if they want do what they think is best, but giving you a serve is totally uncalled for. Mum tookt he advice of holding back my little brother for another year of kindy. it was the best thing she did for him. He was a Feb baby and just needed a bit of extra time. One of the most wonderful things we can give children is time to build their confidence. Without confidence their lives can be so affected by environment.....anyway, here i go and i don't even have any. I just believe in human spirit i guess and she was out of line.

Bg, Congrats on the go ahead and a months rest sound like it woud be good for the both of you on all levels. You don't need to be worrying about money at the time! Good luck and enjoy the rest.

Tracey, Enough about the needles, girl!! Ahhh!! I am anticipating it all and my god needles are not my favourite thign in the world as it is. I hope it is all worth it. Goodluck!

Diva and Dan, Good luck with main land Melbourne, maybe that is just the right move to get somewhere. You have to just your gut. Fingers are crossed for you and keep us in touch.

Cheryl, Good for you. Vege days are good, i have them often!! A headache might be telling you to have it more often!! Relax and hope you are feelign better today. There has been a lot on your mind. A rest is what you need. Thinking of you and hoping the next few days brings good news.

Me, Well i went to visit a friend and like the rest of you, she attempted (unsuccessfully and i am sure ignorantly) to ruin my day. She has just had her second bub and spent hte whole day saying all the things she misses and has given up having had the kids. She said she loves them and would not swap them but would not be upset if she didn't have kids. I wanted to hit her over the head with a wet fish. She know what we are going through and is a bit insensitive. She went on and on and on, and i know we all have bad days but she does this often Ungrateful cow! I left there after being ever so polite and rang hubby while i walked home. I am so glad i saw her on a good day and was strong enough to not let it break me. I said to hubby (after he blew his top) i will not be seeing her again. It was just too negative environment to be in . Please don't take this the wrong way, but i just thought, right, you not my friend anymore, your off the list! We really didn't have that much in common anymore as we don't work together and i choose not to be around that. I know she is not that maternal but still, my god girl!
Anyway, Tour de France hits London this weekend so i might go for a bit of a gander in between packing. I need the exercise. I have eaten that much crap this week, it is rediculas. I plan on starting the new me today, in a minute, soon, heehhee! I really need to watch my weight and keep it unde control as i comfort eat! I have IVF questions soon to prepare and i might just start a thread.
Actually i might just start journal. I have so much to say all the time.
I am logging on when you are all in bed, so i don't get to do little posts through the day.

Anyway, i am feeling good and Af is nearly finished! yippee.

Rols, Plus there is a bonus to moving house around ovulation, we have some rooms to Christen!!! I am sure no man would argue with that. Got to do what you gotta do!

Sonya, M of 5 and Ellie, keeping aneye on you and anyone else i have missed. You are in my thoughts and often my conversation with my hubby when he gets home from work!!

Take care everyone and will talk to you again tomorrow.
Love Jodie Hippy Mum

Hi Everyone,

12 Eggs Retrieved.


Im drugged & in severe pain. All went ok but wont know anything until noon Saturday. Yes, another wait. This pain is most definately worth it.

Just wanted you guys to know first (after DH that is).

VERY BIG THANKYOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR MAKING THE LAST WEEK SO MUCH EASIER. YOUR THOUGHTS, ENCOURAGEMENT & BEST WISHES HAVE MEANT SO MUCH TO ME.



Take Care Everyone & I am thinking of you all,

Tracey