Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - July 2007

Hi all,
Checking up on you. Yes, tracey, it is a bike race you dag!! I have know idea the details of Lance Armstrong, i know he was in previous ones but don't remember his name being mentioned in this one. He was a legend. An aussie won the first stage which was fab! Was a great weekend.

Good luck to everyone going through procedures and tests. Hubby and I are thinking of you all and we hope they bring fantastic results.
Take care and will be back on deck soon. Day 9 today and just about to move and looovin' at the same time. Yeehaa! Her we go.
Cioa for now
Hippy Mum

Hey There,

Hippy Mum - Hehehe LOL!!! Yes, Im not real good with sporty stuff. Most I like is the V8 Supercars. I saw the Tour de France on the telly this morning. There was a huge stack near the finish line when they all started to speed up. It caused a road block, maybe thats why I like the V8's, for the stacks! All the best for your Nat Cycle. Day 9! You guys must be so excited! Here's hopin' for good things to come your way.

BFN
Tracey

You signed off BFN Tracey, i am confused. Are you ok? Are the embies ok?
I hope all is well.

Youch, i have just getting a sharp pain up my cervix. Sorry TMI. Ohh it hurts. You know the kind, where you freeze still to breath. Why on earth would that be happenign? I have had it before but only brief and once or twice quickly. But this has been for couple of minutes. It is calming down now. That was wierd.

Hippy Mum

I am a DAG!!!! I am using the wrong sign language hehehe? I meant BFN Bye For Now not Big Fat Neg. I printed the Abbrev sheet so I can talk a language you all know. I think I was just used to MSN! All good, just waiting today's call. Im working from home too. I deal with USA quite often so Im a bit of a night owl. During the day, I do bits n pieces for our business.

TTFN (thats better!)

Tracey

good morning everybody.

DH is in shock! i dont think he realises how tense i am about this arvos results. he knows i was awake nearly all night but he thinks its coz our boy is really sick at the moment and i was just worried about him (which i am) but he spun out when i got up by 6am to make his lunch fresh!!!! i havent done that for a while as i have felt drained ever since i started ivf......

8 hours to go. i sent out positive vibes thats our first embie is a survivor and the others can just 'chill out' for a while longer. DH and i also signed the forms recently ssaying that if we fall preggers we will be donating any spare embies to a couple. originally they were going for scientific research but after joining BB and rreading so many heartbreaking stories i really just want to be of some small help to anyone in anyway....

hi BeiBei - missed your chats hun!

hi Ellie - i have had a stern talk with the wicked witch, ask DH my stern talks are SCARY!!, and she is on her way to your place. but i did tell her not to be too rough. my AF was almost two weeks late after my first cycle, so after everything you have been through hun i guess its usual to be late.... good luck, just dont send the witch back to me, maybe we could handball her around all the BB girls waiting for her....

Everybody else, good luck wherever your at and have a great Tuesday....

Sonya ...LOL...I think we'll leave her over in the 'waiting for af after mc' thread...that's the only place she belongs around here...the rest have bubs waiting! I've been thinking about you heaps...have everything crossed for you.

A BIG HI to everyone else...hope all is going well xxx

Sonya, that comment on the witch was brilliant, made me laugh. You scared me!

It is such a beautiful gesture you are making once you are preg, to give your spare bubs away. It is horrible saying it that way, but you know what i mean. They are potentially beautiful little babies. Very thoughtful, generous and loving of you. I hope to do that one day if we have to go through the process. You are wonderful! I hope your results come through, maybe another stern talk is in order. All my fingers are crossed for you.

Tracey what do you do? I trade on the US markets when i can along side trying to sell my green bags to small businesses and NCD Zeolite drops to anyone interested. If i went home, i couldn't do the US markets anymore as there is no way i could trade at those hours of the night, despite being a night owl! For me here, the markets open at 3pm-9pm. Great time of day!!
So pleased BFN was not a BFN. Thinking of you with your wait. Is Wed still the day??
Hippy MUM

Hey There,

Hippy Mum - I import boats from US & we have dealers in Australia who buy them. Go the US dollar!!!! I would luv your hours. My night sometimes starts at 12pm ewwwwwww. I usually sort everything out in the day & email them so that most of the time Im only up for an hour or two. They get the emails & work on 'em until I call. Its working.

Sonya - counting the hours! May your dreams come true.

Tracey

Im still around just a little ill at the mo, still checking in on all the progress that everyone is making

XX

Hi everyone

I am lurking around too, reading but nothing much to say really. Waiting for AF to arrive - some days I have symptoms and other days, like today, absolutely nothing!

Hope everyone is having a great day today!
Take care all,
Cherylxx

Hi Sonya1.
Just wanted you to know how wonderful i think you and your DH are for wanting to donate embies if you are able to. I am on the TTW at the moment and have done ICSI several times to no avail, i also have my name down for a donor embryo list and if mine don't work I hope to get a donated one if possible - i cryed when i read how you felt about donating and it made my heart swell as not many couple are soooo generous - you will make some couple very happy - you truly are wonderful people.

Loula, I must have missed something. 23 fertilised eggs! Jesus!

Hi Lissie. If my DW end up with a successful IVF result and have left over embies, then I would personally be keen to allow my clinic to provide one/some of these to other couples. Although this is something that DW and I have yet to discuss as it's still early days in our procedure.

Good luck Sonya.

As for us, we had our first nurse appt today which went for two hours. We already knew a lot of what was explained to us about the birds and the bees etc, but certainly learnt a few things academically speaking. We (or more specifically I) were shown how to administer the Lucrin, Puregon and trigger injections. I am surprised how thin the needles are, and DW is pleased that you can use a bit of ice to numb the area beforehand if you wish.

I've got to have my HIV/HepB/C bloodtest tomorrow or Friday.

The nurse started out by describing our situation as unexplained infertility. When I raised the fact that my SAs show dodgy morphology she went on to describe this as mild (as did the FS) and still seems to be of the opinion that it is UI with possibly a bit of male factor thrown in. FS never said this so I might just continue on the premise that it's my issue. Apparently I need to start taking a mens multivitamin just in case.

I also have a bit of a bee in my bonnet about having warm baths at the moment given you are supposed to keep the blokes cool. I like to have a bath a couple of nights a week and have a bit of a read. So anyway, nurse reckons these should be avoided, but probably no big deal. Well I wish I knew this from the beginning because I have been doing this for a while and seeing as we start IVF very soon if there is an affect it will be just at the wrong time (given the 70 odd day sperm maturation thing). It's probably nothing to worry about at all, but my whole experience so far is that the bloke is just along for the ride, even when the infertility issue has nothing to do with the female half od the equation. I've got no problems with any of the people we have seen so far as they have all been great, but it just seems to be the general vibe.

Anyway, Lucrin injections start on the 30th July and the EPU (hopefully) will be around August 20ish. I think we've been fairly fortunate with speed of treatment as we only had initial tests done in May to determine that there was an issue, and as of the end of this month it all starts.

Tracey, in regard to your fertilisation rate this cycle, the nurse said something today which I thought might be of use to you. She reckons that only 1 in 3 embryos (pre blastie) are any good, regardless of the fact that they actually fertilised in the first place. For example, they may fertilise but not have all the cells required for the baby, or the placenta by a certain day, or on the other hand have too many parts.

So in other words, to be in the position you are currently in sounds perfectly normal and nothing for you or your fella to be upset about. Hope this helps.

Rols I think my DH would agree with you there. Even though the fertility issue was mine, he did say on numerous occasions that he felt completely superfluous to the proceedings, except when he and the cup had to get intimate. He did feel like he wasn't offered or given much support in the process, yet was expected to be supportive and optimistic for me all the time. It definitely took it's toll on him.

I think it's great that you're in here giving us all the male perspective on everything, and if it makes life easier for other men in the process, then that's great too. I think it's really hard on the women, but you don't have to give support to one partner at the expense of the other.

Hello ladies! I'm around, not posting as much but still reading. Just a reminder that I go to Egypt for 12 days as of the 18th of July and will not be online at all during that time.

hehehehe Rols - youve gotta watch the quite ones, Ok most of you know ive not been around as ive had a 'friend' stalking me but if anything i hope she is a little embarrased that she feels she has to do that IYKYIM. and i also hope that she is a 'friend' enough to keep what i say in here to herself?

I had EPU on Friday and got 28 eggs and 23 ferterlised but now i have OHSS and although TF is planned for tomorrow i dont think it will be going ahead.

What has been the most painful part of this journey is not sharing it with you all and driving myself insane with keeping it to myself IYKWIM

So bugger it its the internet after all !anyone can read what i write and TBH that doesnt worry me i just dont want to be asked every five min or when i see someone so?????????????????. Ill tell you face to face when im good and bloody ready !

well said Lou :clap:

Thanks sushee

and i just wanted to add that i would be feeling even more frightened if i didnt have BB to ask Q about my cycle and the OHSS. At the moment im comfortable with the fact that i have OHSS but thats only from the love and surport that other women who have had to go through this has given me. BB is the best and even if my journey can help other then i would be please with that too.

Rols - I hear ya loud and clear ... it's frightenly hard on the blokes, my poor darling especially, 'cause we live so far away from everything, the docs think it might just be easier for them to freeze his sperm so there's less jet setting ... he's really put out by that, and I can fully appreciate why ... the bloke has little enough to do with the PG (through no fault of his ;) ) it's abominal that his right to the TTC process is being violated too ...

Which brings me to my next point ...

Loula - Ahhhh the joys of having your whole TTC thing aired in public. I think that's what hurt me the most, no longer is it a secret promise between two loving people, it's now between you and your hubby and your scientist and your fertility specialilst and your anethetist, and your nurses and the receptionist and yada yada yada! With the joys of living on this island and there being only one way on and off, it's now also with the travel agent and the pilot and the airport staff as well ... not to mention the hospital and the pharmacist ....

I still grieve for the simpler days ... the way it should be .... :(