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Natural cycles suck!
I picked up all my drugs for my next cycle and just can't wait for AF to arrive. I'm feeling somewhat positive about the next cycle. I don't think I was emotionally ready last FET because I was in tears so many times during the cycle and just felt down in the dumps and like it had failed within the first few days. So I am hoping my positive vibes for the next cycle will bring me a positive.
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I have been so caught up in wanting another cycle- and now FS has approved it- I'm wondering if it's a waste of time/money?
Will my body be ready for another pregnancy so soon?
My HCG is 0 and prog is 5.
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Friday 10th August 2012:grouphug:
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Emma - CD1
N2L – CD3
Kerbear - CD6
Juniper - CD12 (lap cycle)
Andie – CD16
Vic261 - CD19
Waiting for Transfer
Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ek-Wait-2012-6)
Mrs Mac - CD23 4dpo
Me4ever – CD23
Freya - CD25
Got Their BFP in August :confetti:
PlanetSasha - 27/7/12 (yeah I know it was July - but it needs appreciating for a bit longer!!!)
myturn – 2/8/12 HCG = 46, 6/8/12 HCG = 196!!
Larry - 7/8/12 HCG 672!!
Just sneaking in to say my HCG level yesterday was 544..... Hope you are all keeping your chin up - miss you all already xox
sneaking back out again with a big :hug: left behind
ladies can anyone tell me if there is a cut off to how much you can claim through medicare each financial year for Fertility treatments?
great tot see your numbers rising Myturn :dance:
Emma if you are at all not ready I would wait, i change my mind on my FS all the time but its your body and you have to go through with it all. In saying that if the FS didn't see a medical reason for getting back onto the horse again right away they go for it.
There's no cut-off as such. You just have to have been more than $2,500 out of pocket after medicare claims (double check that figure, I think for a certain income level it is more). You can get a 20% rebate.:
Emma, I hope you can take it easy and treat yourself a little over the weekend. I'm glad to hear your FS has approved another cycle for you. Hopefully you have a little bit of time to decide if you're ready. We TTC'd straight away after both of our losses, but neither time was it a medically-assisted cycle.
N2L, I'm joining you on the weightloss bandwagon. Time for me to give up sugar again. This is going to be a miserable couple of weeks ahead... Yay for you having a great night's sleep! My acupuncturist has suggested I should try melatonin for my insomnia, but the "harder to wake up" part of your post scares me a little. I have enough trouble with that now. FX for your cycle in December. Sometimes the best thing to do is go in all guns blazing; throw everything at it and see if it sticks. With those NK results, the Colorado protocol does seem like the way to go. :goodluck:
vic, I think we may be on the same plan - natural cycle this cycle and FET next one.
Mrs Mac, FX for your next cycle! Not long to go now!
myturn, yay for the great numbers!!
Afm, I'm still bleeding after the lap. Starting to get a line on the OPKs, but no positives yet, thankfully. I'm still hoping I'll stop bleeding before I O so we can TTC. I don't want to miss another cycle. I saw the GP today to request a b/t to check my vitamin D levels. It's highly likely that I'm deficient and it would be nice to know the numbers before my post-op appt with the FS on Thursday (since he'll no doubt discuss my abysmal AMH results and AMH levels can be affect by vitamin D deficiency). My prediction is that he'll say we need to do IVF ASAP, but DH is likely to be made redundant in October, so I don't know if we can even afford a stim cycle (and I know I'm still not ready, but I could probably "suck it up" and get past that particular hurdle if I had to).
Mrs Mac, I think there's just the safety net caps for each individual cycle. You also have to have at least 30 days between successive EPUs (I think?), so that limits how many you can have each year.
Hi all you lovely ladies, hope you are all doing well.
Yay on your number my turn ;-)
I have not been on for a few days and think I will struggle to do persie's....sorry :-(
I am feeling a bit flat, had my first scan today and looks like I only have 8 follicles and most of them are around 5-6mm in size with 2 bigger than the others by a few mm, so they have a bit more growing today. Last time we had 11 and got 6 eggs so I am worried we may not get many eggs. I walked out crying and dh couldn't understand why I was crying and I said I don't want to have to decide if we cancel if there isn't enough or they don't grow together. His answer was we are going ahead and have they money for 2 full cycles so we are doing this one all the way no matter what.
It made me feel a bit better but I feel like a failure, I have worked so hard on everything I just hoped my body might have rewarded me but it has let me down a bit. My fs said it will be ok remember we only need one good one...
I know I should be happy there are 8 there and don't get me wrong I am, just disappointed, I really want enough I might get some frosties.
To top my day off another friend has just announced she is pregnant to add to the one last week.....why isn't it my turn yet?????? I so want to be a mummy as I know you all do as well.
I want to eat a bucket of ice cream and a block of chocolate but I know that won't fix it and will only reck my hard work so strawberries it is!
Ker - Hugs to you. I hate how many times I feel like my body has betrayed me. Way too many times over this whole TTC journey. Just when I feel like I can like my body again it does something to make me hate it all over again. Have they upped your meds or just soldiering on? Dont eat the ice cream or the chocolate :)
Juniper - It would be nice to have a cycle buddy. I never seem to line up with anyone.
Myturn - Good to see your numbers are increasing. I have been stalking xxx
Em - If you can, soldier on. The sooner you get another BFP the happier you will be xxx
Hi to everyone else xxx
Thanks Vic, no she didn't want to up she only goes 450 on puregon and that's what I am on.
I am not going to eat the ice cream or chocolate, good thing it's not in the house!! I have already put on a couple of kilos cause of some bad few decisions and no hard core gym to work it off for last 2 weeks. Focus Kerryn !!!!
Sorry about my me post but needed to get it out, I just looked back at how much I wrote :-o
Its fine to do all about me posts :) I constantly do them. Thats what we are all here for, to get things off our chest so they dont mess with our heads xxx
Hi everyone,
Just been quietly stalking you... Been very busy at work and of course with wedding preparations and preparations for our trip away next month... Can't wait to go and see my family in Europe :) I think I might as well join Mrs Mac etc in the TWW, as I should have ovulated in the past couple of days. (Haven't done OPK, can't be bothered at the moment, don't really have faith in my body that it can conceive on its own). I suppose we're just trying to enjoy life and each other instead of focussing on the baby that's missing in our lives. And I'm loving the fact that I don't have to have needles or appointments all the time. I only go to acupuncture every second week at the moment. Anyhow, hope everyone is well and sending hugs to whoever needs one!
Hi all,
Emma, big hugs lovely :hug:. My advice is don't rush into a cycle hun, it's good to do one when you are most relaxed and ready. My FS keeps telling me that I shouldn't do a cycle if I'm stressed etc.
Kerbear, chin up hun :hug: I hope your follies keep growing and growing. I know the disappointment though of just a few follicles. Hopefully you'll get some more. I also wish I could get enough eggies to have one or two frosties, it would be so nice not to do a stim every bloody time! GL in your cycle hunni xoxox
Juniper, here's hoping you'll get a natural BFP hun!
Myturn, nice of you to pop in and don't stress too much about the numbers not doubling. They are going up and that's the most important thing :)
Mrs Mac, FX for your next cycle hun! Are you doing a stim or a FET?
Hi to n2l and Vic and anyone I missed!
AFM, I have a stoopid cold, although I have been taking the cold and flu tablets religiously and so far it's been 'bearable'. I've decided to just take the CoQ10 tablets before my next cycle, which will now be in October (sigh....). Hopefully the new supplements will give my eggs the much needed boost. IF the next cycle doesn't work and we have no frosties, we'll do a cycle early next year and then I'll try the chinese herbs and maybe some more acu. We won't be taking over the new business until late October so it will give us that month to concentrate on the new cycle. Bring it on :)
b xxx
Hi all-
Miss B- hope you are feeling bett this morning.... The flu is rotten!
M4e- lucky duck, away to Europe! I am so envious of you!
Kerbear- just a big :hug: try to relax hun- I know it's hard!
AFM- still bleeding, was a little ouchy last night.
Glad I sent DD to her Nan's so I could just relax on the couch.
I had a lot of thinking time and I'm going to do another cycle straight away.
I made a list of everything that needs doing around my house, so that in e first 2 weeks of my cycle- I can concentrate on that!
I'm glad you were able to relax a little bit Emma, I find that when I have just a little bit of 'me time' away from DP and DS, I'm able to sort things out in my wee head. I'll be behind you all the way in your next cycle, I hope it brings you your BFP :pray:
Me4ever, yay to your trip overseas!! Sounds very exciting :) Where in Europe are you going? 4 years ago my partner and I went to Poland and then to Scotland to visit and meet our families, it was really great. The weather will be much better for you than it was for us, we went in March. Very bloody cold (especially in Scotland)!!!! lol.
My nose is now a wee tap, glad it's just progressing nicely. Can't wait to feel 100% again, but I can tell you, the cold and flu tablets are a God send :)
Hope everyone has a great weekend :)
Miss b hope you feel better soon. I think of I have put pressure on myself cause like u I would love frosties, stim knocks me around so much.
Emma I hope you are feeling ok today and you are not so sore. Your plan for around the house stuff in first 2 weeks sounds good.
Afm- the bloating and tenderness has kicked in well today. Feel like I do when I get AF but a bit worse. Has planned a night out at casino a month ago and no one knows we are doing this so DH is going to drink so I don't have to make excuses lol. If I didn't have a friend coming to stay and go out with us I don't think I would go, I just don't feel up to it. Hopefully bil doesn't bail cause then DH will and I don't know what to say about not drinking.
It's all so complicated sometimes it is easier to just tell them what's going on but we didn't want to this time.
Have a good weekend all xo
Me4ever- I forgot to say that I am soooo jealous of your overseas trip ;-). Glad you have been able to occupy yourself with wedding and holiday stuff, I found it a great distraction last year.
Kerbear, just tell them you have shocking period cramps and had to take strong medication that doesnt mix with alcohol.
Most people shut up at the word "period" :lol:
You know what I do to make the nosy people feel uncomfortable? I tell them I have bad period pain/constipation whatever the reason for not drinking due to medication (embarassment already ;)) and then I proceed to tell them ALL about it describing consistency, colour, etc. Really grosses them out :lol:
Saturday 11th August 2012:grouphug:
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Emma - CD2
N2L – CD4
Kerbear - CD7
Juniper - CD13 (lap cycle)
Andie – CD17
Vic261 - CD20
Waiting for Transfer
Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ek-Wait-2012-6)
Mrs Mac - CD24 5dpo
Me4ever – CD24
Freya - CD26
Got Their BFP in August :confetti:
PlanetSasha - 27/7/12 (yeah I know it was July - but it needs appreciating for a bit longer!!!)
myturn – 2/8/12 HCG = 46, 6/8/12 HCG = 196!!, 9/8/12 HCG = 544!!
Larry - 7/8/12 HCG 672!!
Thanks missb and n2l I ended up telling my sisters about the ivf cycle cause I hate lying and told them to keep it a secret. When I told my friend I was feeling up to drinking she was happy to go out another night. So we aren't going out now which is good cause I am a bit sore.
I definitely loved the excuses you had, everyone always go quiet when you say period lol
Sorry I didn't have time to do personals before. I wanted to try to get the list in at my first opportunity.
kerbear, I'm glad to hear you were able to opt out of tonight. Didn't sound like you really felt up to it. I hope this means you're having a lovely, relaxing night with your feet up instead.
me4ever, I hope you have a fabulous trip! I'm so jealous! I'd love to go back to Europe. One day...
Miss.B, sorry to hear you're unwell, but glad to hear the tablets are keeping the symptoms under control. They never work for me since they changed the ingredients, so I tend to get a bit man-flu-ish. :redface:
You know, I think it was when I started being open with my managers (both men) about our TTC issues and the AF pain that they stopped requiring medical certificates for my sick leave. They didn't like getting a phone call every month saying "my period has started so I'll be off sick for 3 days" (my pain was genuinely that severe). I was eventually asked to just send them an email with the subject line "the 3 days" and nothing more... ;)
Kerbear - try not to be too down with the number of follicies, there could be a couple hiding. As long a you get good quality you may npt need more then one :crossfingers:. It totally sucks when people around you are falling pregnant. My cousins wife is almost due and I politely declined to attend her baby shower and then copped it from my Grandmother for not making an effort to go...if only she new. It totally sucks because i sure we all want to be happy when people around us are pregenant but sometimes it just hurts too much. Sorry about the bloating but that means your well on your way to making some fantastic little eggs.
Me4ever - I wish I was going on a holiday you lucky lady. Its very lonly in the TWW so I would love the company. I know what you mean about enjoying your lives, i have been having the same kind of thoughts, In fact today we went and brounght a brand new car :leap: we should get it next week and I am so excited. If i can't have a baby i may as well have things I love.
Miss B- We are doing another FET as soon as AF arrives. :crossfingers: third time lucky. I hope that cold goes away quick smart, DH has been sick all week with Manflu :lol:
Emma- hope you are feeling a little better. Your list idea is fantastic, i think i am going to steal it.
XOXO
Hi Mrs Mac- I'll come and keep you company in there ;) Wow, I'm jealous of you buying a new car ;) Enjoy driving it! I bet you are planning on some driving around to show it off once you pick it up?!
Kerbear - Don't forget to drink loads and loads (of water preferably :))! (They suggested 3 litres to me) And also have lots of protein... I enjoyed my Dutch choc Sustagen drinks :) Good excuse, anything to feel better :) - Indeed wedding and a trip is a good way to keep your mind occupied and your hands busy. Not much time to think about babies at the moment, so time goes way quicker!
Juniper - Wow you have a good understanding with your managers... Wish my supervisor was as understanding... With all this TTC stuff, next time when we start the FET I'm going to try not to tell her about it, I'll just call in sick and might visit GP for a sick note if I have to. Last time I told her about the problems with bub and the appointments I had to have and she keeps asking inappropriate questions like are we trying for a baby again, and that with all these colleagues there that I haven't told about it :$
MissB - We'll be spending most of the time in the Netherlands where my family live, my brother is getting married which is the main reason we're going, but we also have a new niece I'd love to meet (and hang out with the other little niece and nephews..). We will be going to Switzerland for 3 days, visiting a friend and her family, can't wait for that, I love Switzerland. And my DF's mum will be coming with us as well and she wants to go to a war memorial in the north of France, so hopefully we're going to be able to drive there in a day and back. But mostly it will be spending time with family and friends in Holland.
I hope you enjoyed your outing to the casino, probably once you're there you will enjoy your self more than you would have imagined?!
Emma - How are you today? Is the bleeding and pain easing off a bit? Nice to have a list of things to do to fill your mind and days leading up to the FET. I think it's a good decision to go back into the FET straight away. Even my obstetrician told us to start straight away even though we were almost 3 months pregnant when I had the m/c.
Vic - How are you holding up? I hope you're healing well? We're 2 months after the D&C and it seems a lifetime away. I do still miss bubba from time to time, but am hopeful for the future... Fingers crossed for all of us ;)
Sunday 12th August 2012:grouphug:
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Emma - CD3
N2L – CD5
Kerbear - CD8
Juniper - CD14 (lap cycle)
Andie – CD18
Vic261 - CD21
Waiting for Transfer
Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ek-Wait-2012-6)
Mrs Mac - CD25 6dpo
Me4ever – CD25
Freya - CD27
Got Their BFP in August :confetti:
PlanetSasha - 27/7/12 (yeah I know it was July - but it needs appreciating for a bit longer!!!)
myturn – 2/8/12 HCG = 46, 6/8/12 HCG = 196!!, 9/8/12 HCG = 544!!
Larry - 7/8/12 HCG 672!!
Hi ladies :). Well I thought I was getting over my stupid cold/virus thing, but I have jinxed myself, yet again :wall: and last night I went to bed with a runny nose, and a head full of hot air :( My poor DS has caught my cold and to top it all off, I really think his 2 year old molars are really coming this time, I'm seeing little white peaks in the back. He had a fever today and was just a grumpy little thing, so we didn't end up going to see my dad for his birthday :( Big boo hoo!!! I just don't get it. I started taking the cold and flu tablets last weekend, felt better and better every day, and all of a sudden, BAM! new symptoms have appeared, what is going on??? I'm so sick of feeling sick. I feel like I'm back to square one, like why did my body trick me into thinking i was getting over my cold? Stoopid body. Sorry for the 'me' post (vent really). Hope everyone had a good weekend :hello:
Monday 13th August 2012 :grouphug:
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Emma - CD4
N2L – CD6
Kerbear - CD9
Juniper - CD15 (lap cycle)
Andie – CD19
Vic261 - CD22
Waiting for Transfer
Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ek-Wait-2012-6)
Mrs Mac - CD26 7dpo
Me4ever – CD26
Freya - CD28 (+HPT!!!)
Got Their BFP in August :confetti:
PlanetSasha - 27/7/12 (yeah I know it was July - but it needs appreciating for a bit longer!!!)
myturn – 2/8/12 HCG = 46, 6/8/12 HCG = 196!!, 9/8/12 HCG = 544!!
Larry - 7/8/12 HCG 672!!
me4ever, I'm very lucky to have 2 very understanding and tolerant managers. I needed a lot of time off, often at short notice, for a variety of reasons while we were TTC#1 and they rarely complained even though I know they were often inconvenienced. This company was bought out while I was pg with DD and it changed a lot while I was on maternity leave. I strongly dislike the company it has become, but these two managers make it worth staying for now (just reached 10 years employed here yesterday!!). I'd never get the same understanding and patience elsewhere.
Miss.B, I'm sorry to hear you were feeling worse yesterday. How are you doing today? Any better?
Wow. Did a test this morning and it was +. Going off what CD Im on (thankgod for the list because I just dont keep track of my cycle anymore) Im guessing Im 12dpo.
Still a long way to go so dont change the list yet; of my 10 pregnancies 7 have ended in loss so Im kind of battling against the odds here. Who knows, maybe 5th times a charm. I hope you dont mind if I lurk in here while I continue to bury my head in the sand until I see if we make it for a scan in 3 weeks.
Freya, oh, wow! Congrats! FX for a sticky bean! :goodluck:
Juniper - definitely wasn't up to going out sat, I fell asleep in dh's arms at 10pm and for the night owl I am that just doesn't happen lol
I was only thinking the other day how I don't know how the ladies who don't have understanding workplaces to this without losing the plot. I am very luck I work with one other person in Qld and contract trainers and I pretty much run our office. I couldn't imagine not having an understanding boss. It definitely takes a lot of the stress out of it. You are lucky with yours juniper, sometimes the staff make a workplace more than the company itself.
Missb - I hope you are feeling better and your stupid cold goes away.
Mrs Mac - I completely understand you declining the baby shower, sometimes as much as we want to be able to put on a front and go we also need to take care of ourselves and if that means you can't go to something for your own personal reasons then so be it.
I am definitely hoping that we don't need many enbies either ;-)
Me4ever - thanks for the water advice I sometimes forget it is so important through this. You will be pleased to know that I have been drinking heaps today and have a glass next to me right now :-)
Hi Vic hope you had a good weekend and also to any of the other ladies I missed.
One last thing YAY freya, congratulations and I hope this one is very very sticky for you xo
Afm - had another scan today, follicles are growing, have another scan on wednesday and should start my cetratide then. Looking at epu next Monday and then doing an earlier transfer than last time, she will do it next Wednesday and has agreed we can transfer 2 embies if we have them.
Bloating and soreness is getting worse now that follicles are getting bigger. I am quickly being reminded of what I went through last time. I am being positive though and not giving into emotions and feeling sorry for myself this time.... This can work and it can be my turn :-))))
:goodluck: Tuesday 14th August 2012 :goodluck:
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Emma - CD5
N2L – CD7
Kerbear - CD10
Juniper - CD16 (lap cycle)
Andie – CD20
Vic261 - CD23
Waiting for Transfer
Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ek-Wait-2012-6)
Mrs Mac - CD27 8dpo
Me4ever – CD27
Freya - CD29 (+HPT!!!)
Got Their BFP in August :confetti:
myturn – 2/8/12 HCG = 46, 6/8/12 HCG = 196!!, 9/8/12 HCG = 544!!
Larry - 7/8/12 HCG 672!!
Yay Freya! For a +! Did you do another POAS today? I'm just going to wait for AF I think, am not too hopeful that this natural month was a success.
Well done Kerbear for drinking extra water! Are you still keeping it up??
How is everyone else?
Just a short one for today - Have been working heaps and looking forward to my day off tomorrow. Although my DF is going away for 10 days :( Oh well, will work lots and have to prepare for trip, not long now :)
:goodluck: Wednesday 15th August 2012 :goodluck:
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Emma - CD6
N2L – CD8
Kerbear - CD11
Juniper - CD17 (lap cycle)
Andie – CD21
Vic261 - CD24
Waiting for Transfer
Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ek-Wait-2012-6)
Mrs Mac - CD28 9dpo
Me4ever – CD28
Freya - CD30 (+HPT!!!)
Got Their BFP in August :confetti:
myturn – 2/8/12 HCG = 46, 6/8/12 HCG = 196!!, 9/8/12 HCG = 544!!
Larry - 7/8/12 HCG 672!!
Congratulations Freya!!!! :leap:
Hoping with all my might that this is your sticky bub :)
Kerbear, sounds like everything is progressing well. :)
Afm, down in the dumps for non-TTC reasons. However, on the TTC side of things, haven't had any sign of bleeding since yesterday morning, so hoping it's finally finished (today is 13 days after the lap). Still no +opk (or temp rise) and CM seems to have dried up, so not sure what's going on in there. Post-op appt is tomorrow, so maybe he'll do a scan or b/w to find out what's happening (or not happening). I'm dreading the AMH conversation though.
Gosh Ive done a bazillion hpt's in 2 different brands and a digital. Bit of an obsession and one I said I wouldnt give into next time I got pregnant. Super + lines and the digital said 'pregnant 2-3' so Im guessing there would be a nice amount of hcg happening.
My plan is to pretty much chill out, try to bury my head in the sand, maybe go for a beta hcg next tuesday (at 5w) or probably wait and have a scan in 3 weeks or so. If it doesnt end up like every other time.
Having a few cramps but nothing like the other times so who knows, might get lucky.
M4Ever, where are you travelling too???
Whats up with everyone else??
Me4ever - yeah I have been keeping up the water, I have been craving it and very thirsty so it has helped to keep it up.
10days!!!!! I would go insane.... I miss my FH when he is on night shift for one.
Juniper - I hope you are ok, if you need a chat feel free to pm me xo
Freya - all your hpt's sound very positive, praying for a sticky one for you.
Afm - saw fs today and she was very happy, tapping my leg during scan saying yes yes this is what we want to see. Follicles are getting up there in size. Looks like we gained a couple of small ones that probably won't be any good but she thinks we should get about 5 eggs so I am happy. First cetratide injection today, forgot how much it makes me itch near where it goes in. Trigger Sunday for epu Monday, getting excited about it all again, crossing fingers it all goes well.
Hi to anyone I haven't done a persie for, hope you are all having a good week and your bodies are playing the game.