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Hi all-
BW, sorry the BT levels weren't what you were expecting. But you will get there. I think sometimes everything just builds up and up and you need to have a good cry to tide you through for a while. And your body is going through a lot atm, so go easy on yourself. It sounds to me like a day off would do you good. Everyone needs the occaisional mental health day!
As for me, sorry I haven't been on earlier, but I've been at my mum's all day. I had the scan and have about 20 follies but only 2 that are of a decent size atm. One 10mm and one 14mm. So they've lowere my gonalf from 187.5IU to 150IU to prevent hyper stim and I have another scan on Monday. Hopefully EPU will be Wed or Fri. So a pretty good result.
Hope everyone else is doing well.
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BW - I can TOTALLY sympathise. It is so hard to not get your hopes up that everything will happen as we imagine it should / will. I thought my body may have even been over responding in before my 1st scan..not so. That was 3 scans ago. Our bodies are doing their best, it'll work out. Have the day off and stay under the doona if you need to. I have been!
Carrie - good to see that everything went ok today. Great news that you have a possible OPU date..fingers crossed and take it easy :)
Day 15 of injections today...feel a bit sorry for myself...just want some change! I think I left my mind in last week! Not very optimistic about my scan, can't afford to have high expectations. We'll see in the morning
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Just had my first 300IU injection of puregon - ouchie! I hope I don't have to go any higher than this, I'm not sure I could cope with trying to squeeze even more stuff under my skin. What really has me worried is the jump from 150 to 300. Is it normal to double the dose? It just seems like an absolutely huge increase (and felt like it when I was injecting!)... It's somewhat comforting to know that others have felt the same way, although I do feel very, very alone right now. With each set back, with each blood test that doesn't go right, it feels like my dream drifts further and further away.
I'm going to have to seek out more painkillers - head is pounding again. While the emotional release of all those tears was very much needed, I could do without the after effects! Looking more and more likely that I'll be off work again tomorrow.
BW
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Smudge - I've emailed you.
BW- Wow 300IU it does seem like a big jump. But rest assured, they know what they are doing and hopefully it will give your levels a kick in the butt for Mondays BT. Sorry that you are feeling alone atm – please remember that we are all here for you :hugs:
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hi ladies
Carrie - sounds like things are going along pretty well for you - good luck with your scan on Monday
Smudge - fingers and toes crossed for your scan tomorrow - really hoping it all goes well in the morning
BW - have posted in your TTC journal. just want you to know that i'm thinking of you, and really hope you're feeling a little better emotionally after this afternoon (headache not withstanding!) - we're all here for you hun
to everyone else - a really big hi - only one more day til the weekend!!
as for me - well, retail therapy was more fruitful than i expected - DH decided i'd suffered enough the last couple of weeks, so took me for a bit of a splurge. he apologised for not getting me anything straight after m surgery, the went and bought me a new wall sconce for candles in the dining room, and some new clothes and things - as well as the sound syste and dvd recorder (his reckoning is that these were for us, not me, so i had to get something special)! he's so sweet sometimes!!
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Hi there BG - Sounds like you had a great day and got the spoiling you deserve. Your DH sounds like a real sweetie.
Hows the syneral going? Any side effects?
Btw - What a lovely thing that you did for your friend re: loaning the baby stuff.
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howdy girls, you have been busy over the last day!!!
EJE... CONGRATS on your BFP!!!! Well done girl. Wishing you a speedy 8 weeks too. Hang on tight!!!!
BG... yay on starting synarel! I had my first 2 doses today and although it has been 6 or so years since last time, the taste was familiar straight away...mmm yummy. NOT! Hope you recovers quick from surgery so you dont feel too yuck with the drugs. And yay on your sweet DH. He sounds like a real softie. Cute wanting to get something just for you.
Twomums... hang in there, not much longer now. Wishing you all the best.
Smudge... I was reading a few pages back... you make me smile!
Holly...glad you survived with your DS all the emotional hassles of the weekend. You sound like a really caring MUM. Keep your chin up.
... hope everyone is doing ok. Hugs to all.
Sazz
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:wall: I'm taking another day off work because I woke up and last night's headache is still hanging around.
I started charting again just recently because my acupuncturist asked me to. This morning's temp isn't exactly reliable as I had a shocking night's sleep, but it's way high compared to what I've had recently, and usually when I take painkillers at night, they drop my temperature the next morning. I've got a bad feeling about this! Ovary pain and a temperature rise... oh bugger! Just what I need!
My chart is here if you want to take a look. I know I need a few more days before I can confirm or rule out ovulation... but it would be just my luck for it to have happened! Seems to fit with the general theme of things.
BW
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BW - you really are in the wars aren't you? don't jump to conclusions though hun. as we've all said, your body might just be giving you grief cos of the hormones flooding through you at the moment - it's not something you're really used to. here's hoping the temp rise is just a result of your bad nights sleep and the headache you have at the moment.
Sazz - definitely looks like we're going to be cycle buddies for at least part of this journey - i'm doing IUI not IVF - when do you have your first BT? mine is the 4th...
Carrie - so far so good - no synarel side effects. am really tired at the moment, but i'm thinking this is more related to having a big afternoon of retail therapy yesterday, then getting conned into going to a friends place on the way home so DH could have a couple of drinks... all a bit too much at the moment i think! spending a nice quiet day relaxing at home and connecting all my new gadgets up! as for the loaning the friend some baby stuff - it just felt like the right thing to do - and i tend to go with my gut instinct on most things! and yes, my DH is very sweet - he looks like a big ogre of a man but is such a gentle giant!!
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BW, trust me temping while undergoing IVF will do your head in. Your hormone levels are trying to get up to 10 times their normal levels, and your charts are going to be all over the place as a result.
i checked my old notes last night and at cd8 I usually was registering levels of around 900. Yet aside from one cycle, where my levels were closer to 300 at cd8, I never got cancelled.
They won't have a clear idea of what's going on until they do a scan, so please do not panic until that's done.
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Just wondering - how come the majority of people seem to be on puregon rather than GonalF. Are these effectivly the same?
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Carrie,
the apparently the same thing, just different brands. I do know people who have responded better to one than the other, though.
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Looking back over some of the things I've posted in the last few days - I hate me when I'm stressed!
I'm feeling so much better now that I'm taking a day to do nothing and relax. And thinking that I had no acupuncture appointment this week hasn't been helping the stress levels at all. But, I just got a call, and I have one tonight at 6pm! :dance: It's so much later than I would like, but with the state I'm in, I know I need it.
So... look forward to a calmer BW appearing soon! I know my wrists are going to hurt with the calm-me-down spots, but I know I need it. And maybe the later time will give me better traffic - one can only hope!
BW
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woo hoo - she's baaaaaaaaaaaaaack!!
good news on getting the acupuncture appointment BW!
and don't hate yourself for what you've been through the last few days - hate is a wasted emotion - just see it as another pot hole on the road your travelling...
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ok, perhaps hate is too strong a word... more, I'm embarassed to be me...
Just knowing I've got that appointment to talk things through this evening has helped hugely. DH is supposed to be picking up puregon for me today (you go through 900IU vials damn quick when you take 300IU at a time!), I've asked him to find out how to go about getting hold of one of the clinic counsellors while he's there. I really can't go on not coping like this. Hopefully we can get on top of things before it gets any worse.
BW
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Well I officially got a :bfn: on my first IVF/ICSI cycle! dont know how to feel really! Exhausted is one word and very confused! Dont know where to go to from here????
I have 1 embie on the freeze and nurse said that I can either take the chance next month with the one in the hope that it will defrost well or wait another 6 weeks and do another Full cycle! Im sick of wasting time! Im turning 35 this month and Im really not coping with it at all! I told the nurse this and they keep telling me im young! Bull s*%^t (sorry for the swearing) 35 seems to be this big cutoff age in terms of fertility and Im paranoid about it!
I had 2 good embies put in- why didnt it work!
Any suggestions on frozen embie vs full cycle?
God Im depressed!
Plus, when do you ever get to talk to the dr- why do i have to have the nurse discuss future directions with me! I feel like giving up because im too old! :crying:
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:hugs: Kim. I get what you mean about always talking to the nurses and never the doctor. It's just awful! I know nothing I can say will make you feel better about the BFN, but I did want to let you know that I can sympathise with some of what you are feeling.
BW
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BW, have posted in your journal thread, but Sush is right, the exact same thing happened on my cycle and you know how that ended!
Just hold out a few more days and you could see a dramatic improvement!!
Kim, Im so sorry to hear about your BFN. Big :hug:
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Hey Butterfly - over here!! C'mon darl, you can do this! It's not all over, you must hang in there mate. Look how far you have come!
Glad you took some time out, I really don't know how I would have juggled work with this either, so try be kind to yourself.
The counsellor is a great idea, sometimes they can give you a different perspective and do wonders. Maybe talk to DH and perhaps hire a few DVD's and you can snug up on the couch over the weekend to try and take your mind off everything, even if it is just temporarily.
Kim - I am so sorry to learn that this cycle did not work out. I can't imagine how this must feel for you and your DH. I wish there was something that I could say to help the pain. You're not too old!! Hang in there and remember that we are here for you to vent or what ever you feel like. ;)
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Willow - good to see you still stalking around here. Hopefully some more LTers might be graduating soon too.
Is it just me or are there soooo many people in the LT forum at the mo.
Kim - sorry about the BFN.
BW - hope you feel a bit better after the acupuncture appointment tonight. Buy some hot cross buns while they are still in the shops and put them in the freezer - i find they freeze and thaw just fine. I used to work in a supermarket and i'd buy up large and eat them all through the year :)
I have a question about Synarel but i might ask it later, as i'm really hot today and the laptop is like a heater.
TGIF and have a good weekend all.
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Kim - I'm really sorry about the BFN. I don't know much about FETs vs full cycle. It's really hard to know what to do, but I suppose it depends on a number of factors such as your money situation, maybe what grade the egg was.
Hope someone else can be more helpful. :hugs: to you.
BW- glad you're feeling slightly better after your day of rest, and hope the accupuncture appointment helps too. Plus, we all understand the stress of IVF and how it can effect you, so don't feel bad about venting. It's what we are here for!
ETA: Thanks for that sushee and for Smudge's email address!
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Oooh Oooh - all tied up I forgot my own news! I'm pleased to say all hope was not dashed as I'd convinced DH and myself...:rolleyes:
There is a follie frenzy in our household!!! And it could not have come soon enough..seems we have 11 over both ovaries 13-18mm. OPU Tuesday. How quickly things can change.
Now we must nurture these little beauties through those awkward teenage numbers and hopefully give the eggies the key to the door Tues morning!
We've decided to bask in this until Sunday's trigger, then strap ourselves in (space mountain style) shut our eyes and see where we end up!
I'm even looking forward to my injection tonight! :D
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Fantastic Smudge!! Wow, are all the 11 follies between 13-18? Yay for OPU next week, how exciting!
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yay smudge - good news hun!!! good luck for epu on monday
Kim - sorry this cycle didn't work - i can't really offer much advice on stim v FET cycle sorry - hope you're able to work it out ok
BW - hope you're feeling better after your acupuncture session tonight - and good luck in getting to talk to a counseller - hopefully it will help you heaps
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Good one Smudge - great news.
It has started to rain here - also good news. Lets hope we get a better nights sleep tonight.
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rain?? bring it on - here's hopingit doesn't bypass us like it did last night!!
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oops, hit submit twice!!! not happy - my computer is misbhaving big time today!
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Yes - opened the house up now and it is beautiful and cool..better than 37! BG, yes bring on the rain, the farmers and all those beautiful animals need the rain!
Puregon 225iu (day16) Endo lining = 10mm
Right O: 18,16,15,14,13,13
Left O: 17,16,15,13,13
We're trying to keep a level head this time not setting 'any' expectations..we just want one top grade embryo to start our family!! :pray:
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just had a quick squiz outside - there's a few clouds building now - will be our luck that it will pass us by like last night!! was a beautiful night sitting outside with friends, but the rain would have been so much better!!
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Thats a great result Smudge...fantastic lining measurement with ta few days still to go as well.
So sorry it didnt work out for you this month Kim. It would be hard to decide on fresh versus frozen, as for us we had no choice as we can't afford another full PGD cycle at the moment (being $3000 extra on a normal cycle...yikes!!). I am not sure on the rpos and cons but just wanted to send huge hugs at this time.
EJE...WOOHOO for you girl....how cool is that!!!!!!! you go little precious PGD bubba...stick like superglue!!!
Hugs and wishes to everyone else stimming, sniffin and waiting.
We are just plodding along at the moment....started the progynova tablets yesterday, not sure if the headache I have is related or I just need my neck cracked!! So am hedging my bets and have appointments at the naturopath chiropractor and acupuncture next week. oh and a session with my cosmetologist so all bases plus are covered!!! I tell you who has time to hold down a full time job when you are trying to conceive!!
BW you sound a bit more upbeat today....please don't feel embarrased about sharing your thoughts with us.....I personally think you are one brave women and am in awe of that courage and openess...I find it hard to open up like that and probably co do with doing it a tad more often...so vent away honey thats what we are all here for.
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BW - BIG hugs from me :hugs: Hope your accupuncture went well tonight :)
Kim - Sorry about the BFN..
Big hello to everyone else.
I made an appointment with a GP to get a new referral since ours is about 2.5 years old and wasn't used! Appointment is April 2. I haven't seen this GP before, but have heard she is nice. So I guess we just wait and see what she says and if she will want me to have another u/s before she gives me a referral.
Nic
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You have no idea how much I appreciate being accepted for the warts-and-all BW that I am! :grouphug: Just experiencing some internet drama in other circles at the moment, and I really appreciate the freedom I have to vent and yell and scream and cry, and to be able to do all of that and make a fool of myself and not be judged. Thank you - to all of you.
Acupuncture went well, and I can feel the real me slowly creeping back in. The theory my acupuncturist has is that the pain I had yesterday may have been a cyst bursting. It sort of fits with the blob on the left ovary after the synarel, the trigger shot failing to work and now the excruciating pain with my left ovary yesterday. It may be one of those things that we'll never figure out exactly what it was, but she's confident it's not going to be a problem. I also discovered EWCM this afternoon, and my ovaries are sooo tender when she pressed on them, so we're also pretty confident that I'm responding to the higher dose of puregon. It seems to be a very rapid turn around from nothing to this - looks like I could have good results on Monday! I'll just be praying very hard that things continue to go well over the weekend. The whole councellor thing looks to be a bit of a bust - only available on Fridays, and only in the middle of the day, so I'd have to take a whole day off work to be able to go. I think I'll stick with talking things through with my acupuncturist, and getting the bonus of the treatments at the same time. For now, I'll see how I go, but clinic councellors aren't really an option until we get to school holidays.
Nic, exciting news on the appointment there! April 2 will come sooner than we think.
Mel, I hope all those appointments work wonders for you. This could be a really stupid question, but what is a cosmetologist? It's probably something really obvious, but my brain can't figure it out right now.
BG, I hope you get some rain. I was thinking it was hot and icky here, but we're only hitting low 30s, that 37 sounds revolting! From the forecast here, tomorrow is the last of the heat and we've got low 20s forecast from Sunday onwards... will be nice to finally get some cool snuggling weather again.
Smudge, awesome numbers there! Can you get your ovaries to lecture mine and tell them how it's done? Good luck with the trigger on Sunday - you may want an ice pack handy, as it does sting a bit compared to the other injections. Will be praying hard for great results on Tuesday as well.
I'm yawning my little head off here! I think I'm going to have to call it a night and fall into bed... but I've still got two injections and 5 tablets to take. :rolleyes:
Good night all. Sorry to those I missed, too tired for more.
BW
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I agree that this group has lots of people here, I guess just reflective of how many people do need some extra help to fall pregnant.
Glad that your feeling better now BW!
I hope that your GP is lovely Nic and that things start moving with some answers for you.
Ive now Oed according to FF! YAHH. The metformin hasnt changed my cycle length in anyway. I Oed around the time I normally would, I just hope that its improved my eggies (the ewcm was massive this time) to find just one of those good sperm. The natural miracle hope is still there. We have managed to Bd on O day and day after. I finally feel that I am doing something! even if it is just the dreaded waiting now.
Hope the rain has reached all you girls and the gardens. I better go start cleaning up. Have a wonderful weekend
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Summer, the extra EWCM sounds like a good sign. The other thing I noticed was that your temperature rise has been stronger and faster than it has been in other cycles. Looks like the metformin isn't changing cycle length for you, but does appear to be making you ovulate better. Let's just hope DH's boys can get their act together and you can stop worrying about the IVF thing. :crossfingers:
Had a HUGE sleep in this morning and feel so much better than I have in ages. Finally relented and let DH BD his brains out last night, but I found I was too sore to enjoy it much at all. Do others find this during IVF cycles?
BW
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BG- Did you get the rain last night? We did here and it’s a nice cool day today for a change! Yay.
Mel- Hope the Chiro and acupuncture help. I also have no idea what a cosmetologist does?....makeup? ..hehe. Hope the headaches get better, I’ve been getting huge headaches lately and it can be quite debilitating I know.
Nic- Good luck for your appointment on the 2nd!
BW- glad you’re feeling a bit better.
Summer- fingers crossed for this cycle, hopefully there will be no IVF for you!
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we got lots of rain last night - woke up a number of times during the night and it was raining each time - even dreamt of being caught in a flash flood!! still cool and raining off and on now! woo hoo - the gardens are loving it!! i'm so happy that roses are so hardy - they'll take almost anything
have a fairly ordinary headache at the moment, so no personals - am just kicking back on the couch hoping the pain killers get it under control soon - supposed to be going to a trivia night tonight, and have been looking forward to it - don't want a headache to keep me from going!
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Hi everyone,
Really hot day today in Sydney, the best place to be is either in the water or in the air-con! Back at home after rushing around this morning, off out again soon so no time - again, to read through the thread.
Going to see FS on Monday to see what the next stage is, he mentioned doing blasts and an antagonist protocol next time. Has anyone done this? I'm going to hold off starting for another 2 months to kick start my body with the acupuncture. I've started charting again, and so far, everything looks normal, but it's only day 9, so no sign of the rising, or falling temp yet. When I did charting before it was touch and go whether I acutally ovulate or not, and if so, then really late, like day 23. Which, according to the TCM book I'm reading is not a good sign.
My personal trainer wants me to eat really healthily for 3 weeks, no bread, rice or heavy carbs, lots of fish and steamed veges etc. Low GI I guess, which is what my endochrinolgist said I am supposed to do anyway. So, I am keeping a food diary - and today I have already done really badly! An easyway drink and salmon teriyaki for lunch. why is it that when you are not supposed to eat certain foods, you really want them??? Crazy!
I bought a nike + thing for my ipod to encourage me to walk 5 times a week. I walked on Thursday, set it for 60 mins and walked 5.95km. I think that's respectable! I like gadgets so anything like this is going to make me get out of the house and use it!
Did everyone in NSW remember to vote today?!
Big hugs to everyone.:grouphug:
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hi alex - good luck with FS appointment on Monday - hopefully you'll be able to get a plan of attack worked out for the next few months.
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Hi girls
Hope you are all well... Kim is now 12 dpo CD 25, we're getting nervous now... she doesnt think she is pregnant. Last few nights she had some nausea, but now she seems to be coming down with the flu, might be why she has gone to bed by 7.30 the last two nights... we actually took a HPT on day 10..stupid i know... it was a BFN... hopefully it was just too early...
Take good care everyone!
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Hi all,
BG- Glad to hear you got some rain. Hope the headache has gotten under control.
Alex- Goodluck at your appointment on Monday. You sound like you are doing all the right things to give you the best chance possible!!
Megan- I really hope you get a positive result, the tww is a nerveracking time - hang in there.
We just got back from having Dinner and Mums and I am sooooo full. I was full by the end of dinner but then had to squeeze in her yummy dessert - rasberry cake with icecream and a rasberry coulis.....oh it was so good but I'm paying for it now!!
