Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception May 07 #3

Hi All
Am new to the site but what I have seen so far looks great. Not totally up to speed with the lingo yet so apologies for the long hand :)
DH and I fall into TTC & Assisted Conception. We are in our 2nd cycle of clomid fingers crossed. We've read lots of books and spoke to many people about lots of options. I find it hard to talk to the people around me about whats going on with us and our pregnancy journey. All of my friends either have kids (no issues getting pregnant), are pregnant or have just had babies or choose to have four legged fur kids. Those with kids who didnt have issues tell us to not worry about it and it will happen. I dont want to speak about it to those who are pregnant - I am so happy for them and dont want them to feel that we arent. And those who choose not to have kids - well they dont understand the wanting. Thats where I suppose you guys come into the equation.
I am not sure what I am looking for - maybe just someone to talk to. To get stuff out and not have to be worried about what you think and some of you might understand having had similar trials and tribulations. I suppose I am also protective of our feelings around what we are going through - if one more person tells me to stop thinking about it and it will happen - well I am sure you know what I am talking about.
Anyway think I have vented enough for tonight - thanks for listening

Welcome, Cory. We certainly do understand the longing and the frustration here! We've also all heard the "just relax and it will happen" comments so many time it's not funny. We feel your pain! I'm not by any means suggesting that you can't post here, but there is another thread that deals specifically with those TTC with clomid here. It can be very quiet at times - I think most of us that were posting there have either ended up over here doing IVF or have got pregnant. You're quite welcome to stay here, or post there - whichever suits you.

Nic, I'm sure the FS won't be too worried about the charts that show no BD when DH is on night shift. You'd have some that show plenty of action at the right times, don't you? Good luck with the appointment.

Missy, so glad to hear that you are getting better! Being sick utterly sucks!

Me... back to work today. Freezing cold morning for it, too. Start my cycle monitoring blood tests tomorrow, so today was affectively a sleep in. *sigh*.

BW

Hi everybody

CoryA - welcome to BB. I have only recently started posting to this forum but have found all of the ladies to be very supportive and understanding. Good luck with your clomid - I have never used it but there are a lot of success stories on BB.

To all of the TWW'ers - good luck ladies :crossfingers:. Hopefully I will be in this situation in about a month's time.

Yesterday I had my visit with the counsellor, nurse and accounts people at MIVF. All very friendly and helpful. I now have a fridge full of (very scarey) injections plus a cupboard full of the other drugs. I couldn't believe it when the pharmasist handed it all over to me in a shopping bag! Wow and that is only for one cycle!

Anyway, now on day 12 of my cycle and not enjoying the effects of the pill at all. It has been many years since I have used it and I am not enjoying the moodiness and sense of despair that I get, as well as the headaches! I have decided to go back to the gym - it has been 12 months since I have done any exercise on a consistent basis - and am hoping that it will help me deal with the stress and some of the physical effects of all of the medication as well as get rid of some of these extra kilos that seem to keep hanging on!

Talk to you all soon.

Nic - my DH is not FI/FO either anymore, which is nice, but his shifts pretty much mean no BD whether he is on days or nights!! This is one of the reasons it has taken us so long to get to where we are. Everyone assumed we were 'missing' the right times, and told us to persevere. I should have trusted myself - i knew my chart and i knew we were 'hitting the mark' every month - even if it meant a lot of planning and very little fun! Sorry TMI!

Good luck with your TTC journey Cory. I hope you can get success with Clomid.

Chez - Yes there are a lot of drugs aren't there! And in that 'mysterious' brown paper bag! The pill is a curse isn't it. I was so hoping to avoid taking it this time around. It really confused my cycle - i ended up with a 36 day cycle - and i am a 28 day girl. Very annoyed sitting aound waiting for AF to show afterwards. I hope this doesn't happen to you. Make sure you drink lots (and lots) of water. It should help you minimize some of the side-effects - and especially if you have upped your exercise regime.

I am doing nothing but waiting ATM. You all know what that's like. I am worried that the FS won't be able to give us the answers to our questions. The nurse said to be prepared to hear that he simply doesn't know what went wrong. I would rather have answers - even if the news isn't great.

Hope everyone has a great day. Oh, and thanks - the rash is definitley subsiding (honest!) I spoke to SIL the nurse and she said that with it not being painful or really irritating, then i shouldn't worry. It was probably a reaction to either a food (i did eat a lot of berries one day), or maybe a top i hadn't worn in a while. Wheww. NOTHING is holding me up this month!

Thanks Kotare. Can you or anyone esle tell me why I have 2 packs of 900IU injections and one pack of 300IU injections - I can't remember the drug name (starts with G? - sounds dumb I know but I am at work and can't look it up and have to be careful who can see what I am doing over my shoulder as NO-ONE at work knows we are TTC let alone doing IVF). The nurse didn't mention anything about the different doses, just that I have to set the pen at 300 and do the injections once a day for 7 days. Is there a follow-up letter telling me what my regime should be or should I just ring the nurses at MIVF and ask? This is all brand new to me and I feel like I am on a very steep learning curve!

Re the water - I already drink more than 2 litres per day but will try to increase it to more than 3 litres. That usually means I have at least one trip to the toilet during night which is a hassle especially as it is getting colder at night now.

Anyway, take care ladies and chat soon.

Cheryl xx

Cory - welcome to BB - really hope your journey is a nice short one and you get your BFP very soon!

Jo - glad your rash is clearing up hun! hope things keep improving for you! i so know what you mean about the wanting to know answers - i think sometimes it's better to know than to be left wondering - even if it's not the best news. GL hun!

Chez - really hoping that this is the only time you have to collect that scary bag of drugs!! it can be more than a little overwhelming! as for the drugs (i'm assuming gonadatropin) - you'd have the two lots of 900 (3 days each) and one of 300 (for the seventh day) - Hope that helps! are they going to do any blood test monitoring earlier than that?

well - i'm just about to do first pregnyl booster shot - so far no definitive signs of OHSS, so hopefully it's all good and this one won't make me feel any worse - i'm not feeling as bad as yesterday (although i'm glad i have the day off to relax!

Hi Chez - don't worry - the pens just carry different amounts of the same drug. As BW said, you just use one until it runs out then start the next one and so on. The contents are identical in strength (make sense?). Means that you dont end up throwing away a pen at the end which is still half full. My dear sweet lovely nurse always sends us a bit of paper with what we should be doing and when. When you get a bit further along, just ask the nurses to send you something so that you have that reassurance. I am with MIVF too, but i deal with only one nurse who has a regional clinic. But i have talked to the other team of nurses and they are lovely too, they understand your nerves etc and are patient with your questions and concerns. Oh, and you pay a lot of money - get all the advice and help that you need!!

BG - GL with the booster. Good to hear you are feeling better, and lets hope OHSS is not going to hit you.

Jo, we have friends who were TTC on a shift roster as well. They were told that fair enough you might miss a couple of months here and there, but long term, you should've hit something by now. I just keep reminding myself that. DH is disgusted at our lack of BD crosses on our chart! But i think the whole thing could be full and he would want more LOL!

BG - glad to hear you are feeling better today :)

BW - I just went and checked my printed off charts... and out of the 6 I have printed (not including last months) there is only 1 where the BD was off! I feel much better now! :)

Nic

i think you could have a BD cross every day nic, and your DH would still whinge (mine does!!). my DH thought it was excellent when the clinic nurse told us we had to DTD the morning after the IUI - didn't take into account the fact it was a Sunday and pretty much inevitable anyway!! they're hopeless!!

glad your charts give you confidence that there is no way you've "missed" the opportunity

LOL at your DH thinking it was excellent being told to DTD the morning after IUI. They are so funny sometimes! My DH was excited when he saw one of our earlier charts with 2 crosses on it for one day. He asked what the 2 meant and thought it was 'cool' when I told him. He then wanted to know how many crosses we could put on for one day and got upset when I told him only 2.

Can I ask? Is there a reason why they tell you to DTD the morning after IUI?

Nic

LOL at more than two crosses Nic! when i first went onto clomid last year we talked about charting for a while - i didn't have a really accurate thermometer, but we gave it a go anyway - we were both on leave, and i was doing an update at the end of the second week - DH looked over my shoulder and asked about the crosses - of the 14 days, there was only 1 with no crosses at all, and only 3 with only one cross (it was holidays, we were relaxing!! LOL) - DH was so proud of his efforts - but asked me what had happened on the one day without a cross! men are just hopeless when it comes to sex!

the reason to DTD next day is incase ovulation is late at all - makes sure that there are boys where they should be at the right time. the comment was "live a normal life today, but don't over exert yourself. make sure you dtd tomorrow morning, and then as often as you want to after that!" - like he needed medical encouragement!!! thank god he's so understanding when i'm crook - he hasn't taken the comments as literally as some guys would - he's leaving it entirely up to me!

Ahh.. I understand the next day reason now... thanks BG :)
You lucky thing, 14 days off. Makes me think i should book a whole dirty week away during ovulation... really just an excuse to go away more than anything LOL!

Nic

i'd had the golf balling surgery the month before and we'd planned on having extra time off late last year as the second half of our honeymoon (only took a week after wedding cos we'd both just started new jobs) - we were making the most of it! probably helped that we were tripping all over the place and enjoying ourselves - even got to see "the boy from oz" - second row, aisle seat - hugh jackman [________________] far away - hmmmmmmmmmm, no wonder i was in the mood so often!!

PMSL BG!

Nic

was definitely worth paying for good tickets. yummo!! don't care if he was playing a gay guy - he still looked damn good in those tight clothes!!!

hehehe - DH appreciated it much more AFTER the show...

Hi Girls...
I have just come to the realisation that what one Dr / Nurse says to one person can be completely different to what another will say to someone else!
After my IUI yesterday - she just said that we 'could' if we 'wanted to' - not that we 'should'. Have I missed a perfect opportunity now?? Im going to have to get cracking when we get home tonight!! :whip: :ttc:

Now I am worried!!! :wall:

i think it's just a "playing it safe" thing with our clinic - i'm sure next day is fine! i'm not sure if maybe they've had some patients who were too chicken to do anything afterwards, so they say that to get people back into life! i really don't know - it would have happened for us anyway - but DH was most impressed!

Hi to everyone, I hope you get your BFP's soon!!! All the best to everyone in a 2WW!

Just a quick message for BW, I put it in the messages for other members, but I'm not sure if you've read it. The doctor was Dr William Clark at St George Private Hospital Kogarah. Good luck with it, I hope he can help you... it would be good, even just for future...

Sam