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OMG - i just had this post finished and lost the lot - so not impressed
ok - firstly - needles are not gonna hurt at all - well, i can't say not at all, but nothing more than a mozzie bite once you're used to them. i find the area around the injection site just gets sensitive after the injection - more a kinda heightened almost ticklsh feeling than anything else. i think the pain i mentioned was a bit of niggling around my right ovary (which is also the side i got the cramp on last night, so maybe it was totally un-ttc related muscular issues...)
as for day 6 blood test, they'll test your blood estrogen levels to check if they're within "normal" limits. if you're responding corectly you'll probably be called in for an u/s to check the number and size of your follies - you might be asked to have a couple more days of shots before trigger, or it might be administered straight away. it will all depend on how you're progressing - hope would be that you'll get great levels and have trigger on day of U/S (remember, my experiences are so totally out of the norm - BW and I have those warning messages "WORST CASE SCENARIO"!!!)
i don't think telling your friend was a bad idea - it's really difficult to go through this in isolation and it's so much easier to share with someone a little more emotionally detached than mum or MIL. my mum knows we're going through some treatment, but never knows what or when for the simple fact that it's hard for her to stay objective when i need a shouder to cry on - if things don't work out, then it's an opportunity for a grandchild that SHE has missed out on, not a failed cycle that WE have gone through - it may not be the case with you and your mum/mil (my mum is probably a little more selfish than other people - the angels that SIL and I lost were a loss of a grandchild for her, and she lost sight of the fact that it was US that had actually gone through the loss iykwim?? sorry, big vent - rather grumpy at her in general!)
take care hun, good luck with picking everything up - and if you need some advice at any point, feel free to drop me a message (here, my journal or the email addy in my profile!)
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:hugs: Ellie I hope things are looking better for you now
Welcome Karena I hope you find all the support you are looking for to get through this journey. Some people do just understand more than others.
I have been MIA for a little while. We finally have decided to put things on hold until July. Mainly so we can save up for IVF/ICSI and pay off some bills. We are trying to reduce the things that stress me the most. Its been a hard decision to make but I also needed the time to work things out. I have been mostly trying to keep myself together and havnt had a lot left over to support others which is very unlike me.
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Ok this is nuts my bb are so frigging huge and sore! they normally go really saggy once af has arrived, which was yesterday and full forse today.
*TMI*
ive had a lot of clotting today and really bad headach, feeling very $%!& this arvo
trying to keep up fluids
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Ellie, lots of hugs, thinking of you...
Lou, ouchies at the sore BB's! Hope the pain disappears soon.
BIG hello to everyone else, hope you are all well :)
Only 3 weeks and 6 days until our FS appointment. Just a question, I made the appointment in my name only, but the GP is getting DH's 2nd SA results forwarded onto the FS. Do you think I should have made the appointment in both our names? Or should I just ring and say that there will be some results arriving for my DH?
Of course I only just thought of this and the FS is on holidays up until a few days before we see him. Hmmm, might have to ring on Monday and see if anyone is there or not?
DH is wanting to do his 2nd SA on Friday. We will have to drive the 75klms to get it to the "collection centre" and I have to call before hand as well. Will try to call them on Monday to first confirm it's ok to take it up there and then see if I need to re-call on Friday. Sometimes living no where near certain facilities is the pits!
Nic
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Hi Girls...
BG - thanks for that advice! Today was really interesting - the appt with the FS (well, the Nurse). They gave me a 'dummy' injection - so now I know what to expect for the next week (minimum). It didnt hurt - thankgod! I left the appt with a bit of a headache though - its a lot of information to take in! Ive got the pen with the Pergeron, another injection incase I dont ovulate and another 2 injections for after they do the insemination... (which you already know because you are doing it too - DUH!)
Hubby and I felt so weird walking out of there with our cold pack of 'goodies'!!
Anyway, bring on Monday evening - I just want to get to Saturday now to see how everything is going!! What day do you go for your blood test or U/S?? xx
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hi girls
Nic - i'd just ring the clinic and let them know DH's name and that some results will be sent to them - with my clinic, they've got DH's name on my file too. and yeah - living in the middle of nowhere sucks sometimes (although we only have to go about 30km's to the path lab for bt's or SA, we have to travel over 100km to the clinic for procedures - and that means we're too far away for DH to do his "thing" at home!)
Lou - so sorry AF is being a wench to you - she never does what she should be doing! hope the pain has settled down. no idea re the bigger bb's - mother nature is obviously playing havoc for you
karena - glad you found the injection ok this morning - it's really not too bad. i have the little esky pack in the fridge with everything in it - and so far (13 weeks since we first got it), no one that has been to the fridge has even noticed! weird! obviously no one finds it odd that we have an esky bag in the fridge (either that or our friends/family are really unobservant). the info about the needles can be really confusing - i'd suggest you grab a display folder for treatment sheets and injection info - i'd be lost without mine! i just put each new protocol sheet in the folder and then take that and my treatment diary with me to appointments. i have the puregon pen and a heap of vials of puregon (i'm on a fairly high dose now so go through a vial every three days) - also the pregnyl trigger shot and two booster shots - was told i didn't need to have the booster shots as i could use progesterone pessaries - but i don't have an issue with the needles - and the pessaries are something like $3 per day or something.... because of the protocol i'm going through, i'll also be given another type of injection following the U/S to stop me ovulating until the FS is ready for it - so after tuesday's U/S i'll be doubling up and getting two needles each night! (i'm SO glad that i have no fear of needles - although after all of this, i'm sure i'm going to be a little wary of them at some stage - it will be that whole "not again" syndrome!). good luck with it all hun
as for me - day four of injections and feeling a little heavy in the lower tummy - not sure if it's ovarian nigglings or not. have lots of muscular ouchies in general tonight after a very busy day in the garden, so i'm not prepared to say whether one ovary is responding more than the other or anything like that. i have to admit though - i have really sore bb's tonight - and it's been going through my head wondering if it's related to the meds or to the work in the garden... oh well, only time (and an invasive u/s) will tell how my body is respponding - but in all honesty, i think i feel better about it all this time. i'm just having a more positive feeling in general this time around...
plus we cracked an egg this morning and it was a double yolker, so i'm hoping that's a good sign of things to come... mum used to say it meant there were going to be twins born in the family... mentioned that to DH, so that's the egg that went on my plate for brekkie!
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Just quickly - im starting to go cross eyed im so tired...
I just had to say - BG - thats so cute about the double yolker! Love it!
Lots of luck for u/s ...
Its good to feel positive isnt it? My MIL came over today and she said - "I wouldnt get your hopes up too much for the first cycle.." Why not? What is the point in being negative about it before you even start????
Here's to being positive I say!! :p
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Thanks BG :) Will give them a call Monday. What a pain that you have to travel over 100klms for your procedures! I can sympathise with the travel, our FS is 200klms away. (although we obviously haven't had any appointments yet) Our PHI pays for travel over 180klms return, so we get little bit of fuel money too.
Nic
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hmmm, maybe i should check our PHI for the travel thing - could be interesting - i've had so many visits to docs and dentists that are at least that distance just getting there let alone return!!
i'm kinda in two minds about whether to feel really positive karena - it's great to hold onto hope - but just remember that first time out it is a bit experimental to see how your body responds.i've managed to stay positive through all of the ups and downs of the actual treatment because i believe EVENTUALLY it will work - and how are we going to find the RIGHT combo if we don't experiment first? i hope that makes sense hun! like you, i'm a little tired at the moment so i might be waffling a little!
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Dropping by to give my greetings and love to you all.
There's been some major chart obsession happening here over the last few days, but I've started spotting - AF will be here tomorrow, I'm sure. Feeling decidedly low about Mother's Day being the day I have to call the clinic to start my FET cycle. Feeling pretty excited about the fact that I first of all ovulated, and secondly managed to maintain a decent length luteal phase. I think I still have the utter terror of the transfer though... not the actual process itself, but more that this could be what actually gets me pregnant. I'm really not sure if I'm more scared of it working or not working. I'm not sure if that makes any sense at all, but that's what's running through my head at the moment.
Nic, our clinic does everything for both of us together. We have one big file with both our names on it. Probably would be a good idea to call them and let them know that some results for your husband will be coming in, and what his name is, so they know that information goes with you.
Sending big, big hugs to Ellie and Lou. I'm sorry that I can't help out in your situations, but I am thinking of you both. :hug: :hug:
And a very special :hug: for Summer. We all understand that some times you just need our support and can't offer much in return. We've all been there before at one point or another. Do what you need to do for yourself. I hope you manage to work through things and find your way back to yourself.
Apart from the chart obsession that's been happening, work has been insanely busy. I'm feeling very run down and drained. I need to take a day off to just relax and recover, but I just haven't been able to. Getting a sore throat and stuffy nose now, so something's gotta give somewhere!. I have Tuesday off work to take DH for his varicocele embolisation, but we have to be at RPA at 8am, so there's going to be no sleeping in there! Have spent today cleaning up as my parents are coming to stay next weekend... it will be good to see them, but I realised I'm going to be on the letrozole while they are here - experiencing the hot flush hell! Maybe the second cycle won't be quite as bad. We can hope! So not looking forward to all the early mornings and blood tests for the FET cycle... if I haven't collapsed in a screaming heap before that starts, I think I will very soon after!
BW
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Hi Ladies
Ive been a little MIA lately ive been reading everything but just not posting strangely detached i dont know this cycle is really strange..
We are 7 days into the TWW andi dont have a clue feeling sick and tired and just blahh.
A lot more practical this cycle and less emotional and it feels really nice not to be on pessaries or crinoine and just let my body do its thang! MOthers day is sucking though... spending a lot of time wondering if our little emby is sticking like i want it to..
Oh well
So sorry to hear your news Ellie & Loula hope you are both ok..
Summer - completely understand the saving if this FET cycle doesn't work we are going to have to pull the money from somewhere to go with another IVF/ICSI cycle, though the new rebate on ICSI will be nice! :)
Karena - Welcome!!
Melbel - Hope the Lap went well! Thinking of you
BG - Good luck it must be nice to be back on track again! Id definately go with the bosster shots we did for this FET and i feel so much better than last time!!
BW - Good Luck with the FET cycle!
Talk soon
S
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:wall: It's CD1 and I need to call the clinic... but making phone calls stresses me out. If I can't predict the way the phone call will run, I tend to panic and freeze and end up delaying the call for ages and ages...
So... I need to call the clinic... but what do I tell them? My cycle information sheet just says ring on the first few days of your period. Nothing else! The handbook from the clinic says to call my fertility care nurse on day 1 and they will advise me of t he next steps. I've never been assigned to one particular nurse, and I still can't think what to say.
I have the direct number to the nurses, but when they are busy (as they often are on weekends) that often diverts to reception. I just feel really odd starting a phone call with "Hi, I'm Butterfly Warrior and I just got my period" :wall:
I know it's really, really silly to be so stressed out and scared of a simple phone call! :redface:
BW
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BW - i'd be calling up and saying, "hi, this is BG, and i was askedto call to sign on for my next cycle of FET" - they're going to know what it means anyway hun, and it's much easier than telling a complete stranger AF is vsiting
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True... it's amazing just how much stress will stop clear thought processes. "This is BW, and I'm calling to start my FET cycle" sounds good... And then it doesn't matter if I get a nurse, or a receptionist. Feeling less stressed, but still pretty damn nervous!
BW
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Oh dear! I called... got the receptionist, confused her with the way I phrased what I said (I used exactly what I decided on above)... got transferred to the nurses and everything is right to go. Wednesday I start the letrozole again, and on the 24th (day 12) I begin the horendous process of getting up at 5am to go have blood tests before work. I'm just hoping that the letrozole gets me to ovulate a little earlier this time, I don't really want to do the 5am thing for 8 days straight!
But... I'm all booked on, as stressed out as I was, it's done and we're off and running again.
BW
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time to bite the bullet and make the call - then once it's all done, you can treat yourself with something spesh for lunch!
good luck hun!
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Hi Girls
Just wanted to wish everyone strength for yet another mother's day...may the day be short and free from cruel reminders of all that we are longing for...good luck everyone...yet another challenge in this fert journey...
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AF came properly yesterday. FS away till next week and my appt not till 23rd. that would make me on day 12 of my 28 day cycle. so i have rung clinic to see if i need fs to approve FET or if i can just go through them. i dont know if i have to wait a month, but my cycles have always been spot on (except during ivf) otherwise i may have to wait another month if i too late by the time i see fs. this next step is all new too, i just keen to try again!the clinic will call me back after 3pm
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ok. clinic said coz i having a very heavy (and painful! - life someone trying to pull my lower spine out through my privates! - kind of painful!) AF they want me to wait until next period. then i ring on day 1 of that period and proceed for FET from there. i still have to see fs on may 23 as dr mazz likes to keep upto date and in personal contact with his clients. hopefully by then i will be able to talk about failed cycle without crying! DH says its only just happened and that its expected i will be upset - he just worried about all the anger i seem to be carrying around with me! im flying off the handle at the slightest thing. personally i think its from putting my old dog ( and companion) to sleep and then having BFP 36 hours later... oh well enough sadness....
good luck to everyone, whatever stage you are at!
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Hi Sonya
I've heard great things about Dr Mazz...sorry to hear you have to wait...hope the time flies for you!
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Ellie - Dr Mazz is a wonderful FS. he treated me at every stage of my stim cycle and i found him to be friendly, informative and very understanding! DH goes to Thailand from June 8-16 with mates, so when he gets back it should be in full swing again. i have plenty to distract me until then. DH has got me a dobermann puppy for me to do dog shows with and we bring him home over the long weekend at the beginning of June so hopefully he will cheer me up and keep me busy!
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Soooo cute! My DH got me 2 little girl standard poodle pups for Christmas...he said he thought I'd waited long enough for our 'twins'...one of the girls is red which is a rare colour in Australia...we're going to breed her when she's a bit older...we already have two older standards...luckily we're on a property so they have heaps of room...I wouldn't have got through any of this without my furkids...they are the loves of my life...I bet you can't wait till June...how exciting...have you picked a name?????
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his 'pet' name is DOZER. he is the red and tan colour. i named his dozer, as he will probably be a big boy that will plough through everything as he grows up! he cant replace my old girl, but he can give me a new direction. im just hoping i will have another baby that he can help me raise and protect next year. fingers crossed for the FET! your DH sounds caring Ellie!
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Oh the name is perfect! I've just come home to two HUGE holes in the lawn...naughty girls...they so don't suit their names...Ruby and Scarlett...not girlie dogs at all...little farm dogs...with dreadies!!!
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Hi girls - just checking in to say hi!
I have a question, that I should probably post on another thread - but im sure someone writing / reading in here can help me!
I have been taking Folic Acid since we started trying, but now they have those Elevit tablets out - should I stop taking the Folic and start taking the Elevit? Will it make a difference???
Thankyou!! PS. Starting my first round of Puregon injections tonight - if DH hurts me I will bite him! :lol:
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Karena
i was taking the folic acid for ages, but swapped across to elevit about 6 weeks back - and i have felt so much better! i reckon it took about 3 weeks, but i started having a lot more overall well being. i'd stopped taking a general multi vitamin last year cos we were slack and run out - kept forgetting to get more! i was in the chemist one day and had heard/read about elevit on BB, so grabbed it while it was on special. i'm happy enough with it!
good luck with the injection - and maybe try doing it yourself (just in case DH isn't around one night to do it!) - it's really not to scary!
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Good luck with the puregon, karena. There's one tip of Mel's that I found really helpful... needle in fast, but push the drug in slow. It really did help. I found that when I was injecting a lot of puregon (I was on 300IU at one stage) I had to take it really slow and stop regularly to let the sting subside and then keep going. And keep the needle in for a while after you've finished pushing all the drug in... otherwise it leaks out! I'm sure you've had all the instructions and know all this, but when you are stressed, it helps to be reminded.
BG, I think you've convinced me to switch to elevit as soon as I'm out of folate again. I used to take Alexander's Formula Six multivitamins and they worked well... but taking three tablets on top of all the others I take was just getting a bit much. Although, I might just actually be pregnant when I finally run out of the folate that I've got here!
BW
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So sorry Lou :hugs:
I've just posted our 3ww nightmare in 1st tri pregnancy for anyone that is interested
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Smudge, sending you lots of :hugs: right now. I really don't know what to say, but will just be praying for a miracle and for everything to be ok. :hug:
BW
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:hello: Hi everyone,
Gosh, you go away for 3 days and there is sooo much to read. I just read this thread - no time for looking at all the new questions too.
Sonya - sorry about your result. :hug:
Ellie - I hope that there is going to be so great news soon.
Same goes for you Smudge, i wait to hear some positive news :crossfingers: :pray:
BW - yay, you moved onto CD1 while i was gone - exciting times ahead for you!
BG - You are a bit of a dilemma for your FS, but you are still moving forward, and i hope this time your body does what it's meant to!
Karena - hi there! BW is right, push the needle in, and then push the drug in fairly slowly - then wait a bit, otherwise a bit comes back out. It seriously doesn't hurt much at all. GL!
Well no news here. I have not done a HPT yet, but AF isn't due for a few days yet. Crinone is nasty nasty stuff. It is sooo yukky when it comes back out. Thank goodness your guys prepared me for it, as i had no idea it was going to be like THAT. Gross!! I have a list of crazy side effects including unquenchable thirst, which is bizzarre.
Hi to everyone else, :hello: and i will try to catch up with where everyone is at a bit better over the next few days.
Jo
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Smudge - praying for a positive outcome for you tomorrow hun. i wish there were adequate words to share the positive vibes i'm sending your way
take care hun
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Hi Ladies
Good luck with your scan today BG
Kotare what day is your pg test?
2WW is killing me one second im positive im preg ( i fainted at the dinner table on Motehrs day) and the next im certain AF is coming... i hate this game!! 6 sleeps to go its a race to see what comes first insanity or AF!
Fingers crossed for Ellie & Smudge wishing you wonderful news!
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Hi Girls
Just realised I haven't posted here to let you know about the BT results...HcG has jumped up to 5000...FS is really happy with that and seems to think we had two but lost one...there's still a small chance one could be in the tube... which I now know is called a heterotopic...he's pretty sure that's not the case but will still scan me on Thursday to check our little one in the uterus has a heartbeat and check out the tube for anything suspicious..it has been a LONG couple of days...the other thing I've found out through this little glitch is that HcG levels don't have to double every two days after a level of 1200!!! And...after 5 weeks ultrasound is recommended abouve tracking HcG levels as they can jump around!@?! Why is this not common knowledge? Would have saved me a heap of stress!!!! So Smudge...hang in there hun...the scan is the way to go...best of luck today xxx
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Morning Everyone.
Thanks for the advice about elevit / folate and also on the dreaded injections! Hubby did first one for me last night... ive been such a sook about it!! We both kind of had a big sigh yesterday - I think its all finally getting on top of us! Oh well, have to keep our chin's up!
Just a quick post to wish you luck with your U/S today BG!
And best wishes to everyone else here who is waiting .... for something! :crossfingers:
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Karena - this is an emotional roller - coaster, personally im only just starting to talk to the outside world again after a BFN last week. its great you and DH are doing injections together. to have hands on support during you cycle is wonderful and really can make a difference. i know its hard honey, but we are all here anytime it gets too much and dont forget to use all the support your hospital or clinic offers.. good luck with the rest of your injections and i have everything crossed for a great outcome for you...
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That's great Ellie. I'm sure it must have been such a hard week for you but now you have really great news.
I have a job interview tomorrow, and i am really really nervous about it. The job would be sooo perfect for me (it's just about 15mins drive away) - I can't handle the stress of Melbourne city traffic anymore. Between that and the blood test looming, i'm a bit of a wreck. I'm having little chest flutters constantly, and a niggly headache. DH is 100% sure that the embie didn't stick, but i'm still a little bit hopeful. AF is due tomorrow, and i have no warnings that she is coming yet. I used to be a 28 day girl like clockwork, but during all this cycle it's been very late, so i'm not surprised if she comes a week or so late. I am not sure wether to do a HPT or not. I'm not sure i'll trust the result either way.
DH is working so i don't see him this week, so i have no-one to take my mind of all this. No-one (family or friends) knows about the IVF or the job interview or that i'm out of work ATM - i find it too hard when it comes to delivering bad news - i feel like such a failure when other people know about my problems and ask me how it's going.
Sorry about being a bit down - I hope everyone else is feeling a little bit more grounded and relaxed than me.
Jo
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Jo
The job sounds great...15 mins would make such a difference for you! Know that we're all here for you...I too haven't told anyone anything...good or bad...you guys are it....and don't worry about the lack of symptoms...I've been reading the 1st timester posts full of girls worried coz they don't have symptoms...so hang in there hun there's no other way to know than the BT...not long now!
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Ok so i am crazy i have been to the toilet about 100 times today!! Its day 28 and with the IVF i got AF smack bang on day 28 bringing the TWW crashing down! So not sure if it will be the same with a FET or not...
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Shannon...when is your test????
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