Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - May/June 2009

Lilmiss - yes, my cycle is still a managed FET, so that may be why my prog levels are a bit low, and i need to increase my pessaries to 3/day - and you're right, there are so many ways to manage a cycle! Sometimes it can make you worry, as you read about how another's cycle is being managed, and you think 'why is mine not being done like that?' Sends you round the twist! Best wishes for your FET today - we will be very close, and in the tww together :goodluck:

Juniper i feel an extra peace of mind that i'm taking the prog pessaries right up to and hopefully (if i get that BFP) beyond BT - on my egg collection cycle, i had one shot of pregnyl after my et, and that was it, so this time, if nothing else, atleast i feel as if i'm doing more iykwim?

:bluedust: :pink-babydust:

Hi Girls,
Today is my 2nd day after FET...doing fine... taking progynova 3xday, crinone2xday and Synarel 2xday.
On our case we got 23 eggs and 16 fertilized. They were all frozen on day 1. On the thawing process we were aiming to have 4 living embryos and to take them to day5 blastocyst stage. From 9 embryos 4 survived the thaw. All of them developed well but none got to blastocyst on day 5, although 2 indicated a very good development and were starting to compact, which means developing to a blastocyst... We got those 2 transferred.:pray:

GL for your FET! and GL for all of you starting IVF cycle soon!!!

Esperan - glad to hear that your transfer went well. :goodluck: on the TWW.

Loops - it does sound like our dates will be very close, and it will be great to compare notes. I know what you mean about the cost, at least we end up getting a lot back via the safety net, although I found this took a while when did our IUIs.

Taurean78 - :welcome: Wishing you all the best for your 1st IVF cycle. I am also embarking on my first IVF - doing down regulation without the pill. I have a BT on 3 July and will start synarel that night if everthing is on track. I am not too sure about the Lucrin costs. I am pretty sure my clinic's costs are all inclusive. I presume the clinic can purchase cheaper in bulk

Lilmisshavachat - I hope you FET went well today. :stickyvibesgirl::bluedust: GL on your TWW.

Theresp - what are the implantation tests that you referred to below? GL with your transfer tomorrow.

KayKay - wow 20 follicles in each ovary, that is fantastic! GL with the rest of your treatment.

Seph - sorry to hear your feeling a bit low at the moment. Wishing you all the best and hopefully it will be your turn for a BPF soon.

Hi to everyone else. I hope you have had a lovely weekend :)

Hi Mitf - the tests re. implantation that i had are as follows.... not sure what they individually represent, but here they are:

PT APTT
B12 RCF
TSH
ANA
ADNA
RF
ACB
PEI
FVL
THROMB
AT3 PROTC SAG APC DELKCT
SCP-514

Nothing showed up as an issue for me, but it is peace of mind to rule things out. I think there are a couple of threads on BB talking about implantation, and tests that others have had.

Hope this helps you :goodluck:

theresep, wow that is a lot of tests! Thank you, this is good info to have. I know what you mean about 'peace of mind'. I will have to discuss with my FS next time I see her.

Hi guys - just a quick update, we had epu on Friday. We got 9 eggs.

On Saturday 5 had survived and fertilized. I am on my way to the clinic now to have a 3 day transfer. Wish me luck!

I am a little worried cause I thought that day 5 transfers are better? Can anyone share their experience?

Baby dust to all xxxx

Hi All,

I have everthing crossed for kritkit, Esperan, littlemisshavachat and everyone here.
I have just had a call from Sydney IVF after blood and ultrasound this morning..
last night of Lucrin and Puregon tonight, and then trigger and collection on Thursday...Im a wee bit scared of the procedure and worried about getting to excited and then being very dissapointed

Good Luck and very best luck to us all TTC,

KayKay

Hi there,

Esperan & Lilmisshavachat I hope your FETs went well and you are both feeling good:crossfingers:.

Krikkit - I hope your transfer was straightforward and best wishes :goodluck:

KayKay - All the very best for your collection on Thursday. I'll be thinking of you and can reassure you that the day surgery facility at SIVF is not as clinical/hospital like as you may expect. I understand your apprehension but am sure that you'll be in safe hands:pray:

Mitf - good luck with your BT on Friday and thanks for your welcome. I managed to price Lucrin at $208 which is a lot better than the initial $280 I was quoted. And I think i?ll get about $60 from Health Insurance so not so bad as it could have been.

I will be out of action from Friday when I am on holidays:hooray:
In NZ for 10 days - all South Island and finishing up skiing with friends in Queenstown with their 6MO DD. Hopefully a good head-space break from TTC.
Start my Lucrin injections when I am over there.
Good luck to those heading towards or in their TWW and of course to the rest of you wonderful women.

Hi girls,

I know it has been a very long time since I have posted in here, but I have had a lot going on and really haven't felt comfortable posting.
I have just come out the other end of a cancelled cycle due to OHSS risk.
I have a question for anyone who is kind enough to answer;
'If your FS was going on holidays during your ET, would you allow another doc to do the ET or would wait a cycle for your FS to come back?" I'm really confused and don't know what to do.

Thanks

Lovenhope

Lovenhope,

I'm sorry that you are in this situation and it is no doubt a really tough decision.
I'm sure there are lots of ladies here that can help you. I know that at my clinic, nearly all the FS are away at the moment for a fortnight due to an International Conference, so many women have had to make that choice.

I would say that I would let another FS do it if it was a FS who regularly worked at the clinic and if I could meet with them before the procedure. Unfortunately this can't always happen.

On one hand, rappport is everything for me and I like to have a relationship with the person who is helping me. On the other hand, I have to try not to be such a change-hating Taurean and "roll with it" to a degree. This happened recently to me when I was phoned and told that my FS was no longer working from the clinic. So I had to go with someone else, and, as luck would have it, they seem to be great and better qualified too!

It's very personal but I hope I've given you a few different perspectives.:think:

Good luck.

Thanks Taurean.
I think we might be at the same clinic. I tried PMing you, but you don't have enough posts. My FS is covering for a some that are away at the moment and will take holidays as soon as they get back. Which falls right when my ET would be! I'm leaning towards waiting for him, but I have a few days to decide.

Thanks again.

Hi Girls,

Taurean78, have a wonderful wonderful time on your holidays...good luck with the Lucrin! :clap:
Lovenhope, my FS is away for my first egg pickup...I believe everything will be ok..I understand the IVF clinic has a good reputation..Maybe you are also at the same clinic?

Good luck,

KayKay

Lovenhope if it helps, I have often had other FS do EPU and ET. At Monash where I used to be it would be whichever FS was on call. That said I can understand your feelings. Good luck!

Another quick one- my Internet at home is dead, this is from my iPhone.

We got one embie transfered yesterday the told me it scored 2.5 out of 4 and was and 8 cell embie.

The also froze one which was also a 2.5 but only had 6 cells. The other 3 were slightly fragmented and were being grown out to day 5 to see if we can freeze some blastys too. I will find out if they make it tomorrow.

Other than that feeling ok, trying to keep things as normal and relaxing as I can. I had some pinkish spotting today am I am hoping that's normal. The other strange thing is I am only on 10000iu of pregnyl injection every 4th day no pessaries or other drugs.

Hugs and baby dust to all!

Good Luck Krikkit,

Im having egg retrival etc done on Thursday morning...so Im watching out for you.
I have everything crossed for you.

Kay Kay:crossfingers::crossfingers:

Hey Hey ladies,

Just a quick one from me going to bed but thought I would fill you all in I am in the 2ww and think I am kicked out of that at 6DPO TMI WARNING I had like a feeling today like I wet myself a lil bit but it wasn't like a period and is like a pinky red watery like but nothing like a period IYKWIM has anybody had this its soo strange and I don't know what to think... I have my day 21 progesterone test tomorrow but not sure if its needed now and FS was closed today when I called :( Has anybody had this before?

Hey Guys

Sorry no personals today. I saw a FS today, and she explained IVF reallynicely and I like her, so will probably use her. She did say though that we could still get pregnant with IUI, as I am still so young (30) But I don't know whether to try IUI for a few more cycles, or go onto IVF. ANy thoughts? Why did you guys choose IVF?

babytruj, we switched to IVF because we had done 6 IUI without success and decided it was time to be more aggressive.

Miss K, sorry haven't heard of that before. I hope it's a good sign?

Kay Kay, GL with EPU. :goodluck:

babytruj, it really is a personal decision if/when you move to IVF. There have been others on here who have done IVF but fallen pg on IUI and vice-versa. good luck with your decision.

Mrs K, perhaps it is implantation bleed? I had it once on a natural cycle. I had thin stringy like bright bleed (tiny amounts when I wiped). The other times I have fallen pg I didn't have any implantation bleed (hence it doesn't need to happen to be pg). Are you having crinone? Sometimes that can cause irritation of the cervix and a bit of discharge.

Congrats Kritkit, fingers crossed

KK, good luck on Thursday.

Has anyone had post transfer spotting and cramps? Is this normal?

Thanks Dusty. After weighing up all of my options, positives and negatives I finally decided to wait a cycle. More for me and my head space, than for the doctor. The EPU really took a lot out of me and I really want to be feeling great before I go in for the ET. So in the meantime I will be exercising, doing acupuncture and trying to lose a few extra kilos that I put on during the full stim cycle.

MissK- I really hope that what you are experiencing is an implantation bleed. :pray::pray:

Krikkit - glad to hear the EPU & transfer went well. GL with your TWW. I hope time passes quickly for you.

KayKay - all the best for your EPU tomorrow.

Taurean - have a fantastic time in NZ... wish I was going on holiday!

Babytruj - I struggled with this not long ago and posted a blog on this vey issue. We have had a couple of goes at timed ovulation and then 2 x IUI. The blog was posted in between my 2 IUI's. To view the blog - click on the number '1' next to blogs on the right (just under my join date and number of posts). There were a number of ladies on BB (including a couple in this form) who shared some of their story and offered me some great advice. In the end we progressed with the second IUI but have now decided to go with IVF. As some of the others have mentioned it is a very personal decision but I believe you will know when the time is right for you.

Hi everyone:)
I am new to this forum.
Brief history:
TTC on and off for 8 years(health probs both DH and myself)
Touch wood fit and well now.
3 IUIs so far
3rd IUI BFP but sadly MMC at 8 weeks ERPC etc
Starting Promulit-N from today in preparation for IVF next cycle.
Looking forward to all your advice.
Good luck and strength to all of you.:pray:
Take Care
Vira

Hi all
Esperan - hope your doing well in TWW and not tearing your hair out. :bluedust::pink-babydust: Thinking of you

Krikkit, Lilmiss and theresp - hope you are both doing well in TWW also. :pray:

Mitf - you must be getting excited. I am but still not sure if we will be able to afford it and if not we will be waiting until Oct :wall:

Kay Kay - GL today with your collection. Will be thinking of you.

Taurean78 - Have a fantastic time in NZ - i loved it over there and can't wait to go back one day. GL on the Lucrin etc - we'll be going through a similar cycle - in terms of dates ( that is if we can afford it).

Lovenhope - hi and :welcome: I really like my FS and nurses so I try to have them all the time. Personal preferance though and Im glad you were able to make a decision - it sounds like a wise one. GL next cycle.

Babytruj - Glad you found a good FS - sounds positive. We were reccommended to go into IVF after 2 IUI's because DH's sperm count/mobility is always so varied. Therefore it is just bout impossible to get the perfect time naturally. So that made sense to me and I was keen to go onto IVF.

Miss K - not sure sorry but I hope its an implantation bleed - could it be from your treatment? GL anyway :bluedust::pink-babydust:

Vira - Hi and welcome. Sorry about your MC:hug:. GL in your next cycle.

AFM - Im on down reg and have been on the pill. Am about to start Synarel on Friday and have meds appointment next Wed. But we have to make the prepayment by about the 10th-13th of July and at this stage we dont know where we are going to get the money. Im sure we'll scape it up but things are going to be very tight. Otherwise we jhave to wait until Oct and don't really want to wait that long.

AFM - Im on down reg and have been on the pill. Am about to start Synarel on Friday and have meds appointment next Wed. But we have to make the prepayment by about the 10th-13th of July and at this stage we dont know where we are going to get the money. Im sure we'll scape it up but things are going to be very tight. Otherwise we jhave to wait until Oct and don't really want to wait that long.[/QUOTE]

Loops, hun, paying in advance can be so stressfull, I robbed Peter to pay Paul with this cycle, so I completly understand the stress of scraping it together, in the good ol' days, you used to complete a cycle then pay :redface: - if I had only known that I would of cycled my head off :). I hope you manage to get the cash together, and you can get your cycle started. Ps - One cycle, I part paid at the start, then gave em more as the cycle went on. If you ring the clinic accounts, you will find they are quite flexible - hth

Loops - I am getting excited, although a little nervous as well. No one at work knows I am about to embark on IVF. Have you told your work? I am considering telling my direct supervisor so she understands when I need to take days off. I know what you mean about the costs. My clinic takes credit card so I was going to charge a lot of it and will hopefully get my Medicare rebate about the time the bill is due mid August. As wouldloveabubba said, hopefully they might let you pay in 2 or 3 instalments..... GL

AFM - I am doing down reg with out the pill - so If my BT on Friday shows that I have ovulated and have not miraculously got a natural BFP (I wish!)... I will start Synarel that night too.

Mitf
Hi .. I hope you dont mind me asking. When you had your Lap and Hyst in June, was this through your IVF clinic, and if so, they allowed you to commence an IVF cycle, directly after it, it seems.

I am considering a LAP and Hyst, that is the reason for my querie ..

Hi WLAB

I am new to IVF and very excited to be starting. I had my lap on 17 June and was given the all clear to start IVF on my next cycle. So I'm just waiting for CD1 then I start pill popping. My FS didn't see any reason to wait, so it seems you can go right ahead. I'm glad I had the lap because they found "substantial endo" and I had no symptoms at all. Freaky. I hope it was worth it and we get a good result :pray:

MITF, I havn't told my work either, it makes it difficult doesn't it? I"m not sure how to handle that.

:bluedust: to everyone!

Daisie

Wouldluvabubba - no I don't mind you asking at all. My FS works at the clinic but also has her own rooms - they work very closely together.

After my second IUI BFN we decided we would like move ahead with IVF but my clinic advised my FS would probably want to drain a cyst I had on my right ovary prior to IVF. The clinic liaised with my FS to schedule the Lap/hyst. We didn't actually meet with the FS as it was an option we had discussed previously.

I recovered quickly from the Lap/hyst and my FS was happy for me to move straight in to IVF. My lap involved my FS having a look around, draining a chocolate cyst (endometriosis of the ovary), and dye studies. If they had discovered other problems that required more intensive work - I imagine the healing time could be longer, although the human body has a remarkable way of bouncing back - particularly if you are reasonably fit and healthy.

Below is a bit of a timeline of how things went. I guess I am lucky that my FS and the clinic work very closely together, plus I was very proactive in booking things in advance to make sure we could progress without lengthy delays waiting to see the FS etc. I feel like we had been on this journey for a while and not getting anywhere. It certainly feels good to be moving ahead with that next goal post just ahead.

Time line
14 May - IUI #2 BFN
20 May Lap booked for 5 June
5 June - Lap/hyst
12 June - AF
17 June - FS appointment, discussed IVF
3 July - BT & should start syranel
10 July - AF due
Approx 29-31 July - EPU

Daisie - Hi and :welcome: to BB hon. Do you know what your plans / dates are for your IVF schedule? I am doing down regulation without the pill. I have a BT tomorrow morning so all going to plan I will start Synarel tomorrow night. I think I will tell my supervisor.. I told her about my Lap and I trust her to keep it to herself. As for everyone else ? it is none of there business!.... Although I am pretty sure some of them are dying to ask what's going on.

Vira - Hi and :welcome: to BB also. Sorry to hear about your MC it must be heartbreaking to receive a BFP and then experience such loss. Do you know what your plans / dates are for your IVF schedule?

Hi again,

Thanks a lot Loops and Mitf.
Loops-I hope you get the money issue sorted soon.:pray:
Mitf- Good luck for tomorrow's BT.
I am going to have IVF in my next cycle(roughly 15th july). I am halfway through this cycle and have started my Primolut N tablets(day 14-25) and am going to have Buserlin injections from day 21.
I had my dummy embryo tranfer and HyCoSy scan a week ago. The dummy embryo transfer was a bit difficult because my cervix was too tight.Hence the doctor has suggested that I have a dilapan insertion within the first 3 days of my next cycle. Apparently this helps to widen the cervix by a few mm.Once this is done then I need to start my gonodotropin injections, scans etc

Thank you very much MITF & Daisy on your thoughts, I dont know why I was under the impression that I would need a couple of months off after a Lap, hmm interesting Daisy that you had no symptoms and had endo, it really makes me wonder, and I think it's wonderful your clinic's organised a LAP before commencing IVF.

Hi to everyone :pink-babydust: to all xx

Hi All

I've been lurking for a while but thought that I would jump on and say hi.

I'm about 6 weeks off starting another stim cycle where we will be doing PICSI this time - I have been teasing DH that it is a way of picking the "smart" sperm. He tells me that all of his are smart - they just aren't good at asking for directions (so clearly all male!)

Looking forward to reconnecting with old friends and meeting some new ones.

WLAB - thanks for your support and advice. After talking last night we think we will be right and have some farm machinery we dont need that we may be able to sell before then otherwise we may be able to borrow a little from family to make up what we need.
GL with getting your Lap and Hyst - i think i waited a couple of cycles before getting started on IUI but I think that was because i have to travel along way too.

Mitf - My work is a tight nit group and so most of my work know. My big boss - im not sure but my manager certainly does and she is really fantastic. Plus " NaeNae" on BB is a work colleague and she is pregnant now and due in Nov - so a busy place for babies.
I suppose everyones situation is different. GL with yours. If they are descent enough people they should be helpful and understand I would hope.
GL with the synarel tonight - im on it too and im a bit nervous about it and the side affects etc. I just hope its all worth it in the end. All the best.

Daisie - hi and welcome. GL with your cycle :pray:

Vira - Thanks. Im sure we'll manage to get it - will be just a bit tight. Thanks for thinking of me. GL with your tablets and getting started next cycle.

Muppity - welcome back. I hope the 6 weeks goes quick. x

:hello: to everyone else and all the best

xxx

Hi All!

I just got my bloods back, they showed my E2 levels are 3200 and my P4 is 194 - I am assuming that is good, cause I am not doing any pessaries or any other tablets and they are not prescribing them today either, just pregnal every 4th day! so cross fingers this time next week I may have a BFP :pray:

:bluedust: to all!

Hiya all TTC,

Well yesterday was a big day for me..I had egg retrieval...they got 12 eggs.
The team st Sydney IVF where excellent, and I felt like I was really supported, and was recieving the best care poosible..before the surgery I spoke with the nurses, scientist, the Dr performing the procedure (Dr Helen Peric), as my FS is away.
The retrival went well, hurt a bit, and I felt a little emotional! The pain relief certaily helps, but it also made me vomit after. (After I had vomited though I felt immediatley bettter!)
This morning the nurse called to advise of the 12 eggs..9 have fertilised.
Tomorrow I start Crinone (Progesterone gel), 2 times a day.
One Sunday we will recieve another call advising of how they are going.
Tuesday (5 days after retrieval) at blastocyst stage 1 will be transferred back to me!
Feeling excited and very tired ( I also have a flu).

Thankyou all for allowing me to share, and for sharing your knowledge,
Babydust to all.

Kay Kay:pray:

Kay Kay - Wonderful results, rest up, drink lots of water, and best of luck for Tuesday

Hi to everyone xx

Ladies,

Hope you are all well.

I questioned FS on Monday about getting some tests on my immunology and all that antibody stuff. He said he wouldn't normally do it after 'only four transfers,' but I've convinced him to let me - and today I had 7 vials of blood taken for that purpose.

Whether the tests come back positive or negative, I don't mind - if there is some piece of mind or some answers for us, that's a good thing.

Will let you know what the results are.

FET#5 is on in about 10 days. I'll see some of you in the TWW after that?

Seph

Hi Ladies,

BT went well this morning. I was a little unsure how my cycle might go after my Lap but I ovulated like normal and unfortunately no miraculous BFP. So I had my first shot of Synarel tonight - interesting feeling.... but hey I can handle it.

Loops - hope the first sniff went well for you also!

Love, best wish and babydust to all x

Hi girls!!

I am back!! again i have had issues with my computer AGAIN and getting it fixed was a drama. But all good now!

Mitf - thanx for asking about me... yes i am still doing IVF ICSI this month, however for once when you want AF to arrive she doesn't. AF is overdue 1 day....as soon as she comes i will start on my injections 2 days later, as i am doing the Antagonist protocol.
Hopefully I will be able to start soon, I was looking forward to the possibilities of what IVF holds. Good to hear that you and loops12 are well on your way.:bluedust::pink-babydust:

Everyone else good luck and :bluedust:to you all!!

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Me 40
right tube removed
DH 42
Good count low motility
TTC #1 for 2 years

1x natural ectopic 2007
IUI #1 18 April 2009 :bfn:
IUI #2 19 May 2009 :bfn:
IVF #1 July 2009 :crossfingers: