Sarah, I've been thinking of you too. Hope you're okay. :hug:
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Sarah, I've been thinking of you too. Hope you're okay. :hug:
Hi Ladies, hope you're all having a great start to the weekend
Kel & Rai so sorry to hear the witch has arrived
Kel im praying your last 2 eggs are golden ones for you!
Sarah enjoy your special day, thinking of you
Thanks so much for all your well wishes for my transfer on Monday
Clinic called and 5 eggs have fertilized the 6th one was not mature enough so pretty good success so far.
Found out were having a 3 day transfer as were doing the embryoscope so apparently that allows them to see early one which eggs are best and get them back inside their natural environment.
Have a lovely weekend All sending lots of baby dust
Great news PositivelyTTC, good luck for Monday!
Hey girls xox thanks for thinking of me xox
I've been flat out with this engagement party and now it's clean up time! Ugh... Just a wee bit hung over hee hee! But it was wonderful :-) I wish I wasn't having a chemical preg though :-( Mr bt said hcg of only 15 and the line on my hpt completely dissapeared by yesterday :-( , I've run out of tears.not again!
A whole year to wait for ivf a whole lead up of hope to end in tears once again. I wish I knew what to do to stop losing them.
Will be back later I guess I'm waiting for af now ...
Good luck girlies on this incredibly tuff journey
Double post hey
Sarah, so sorry to hear that. Glad the party went well in spite of what you're going through. You seem like one tough lady.
N2L, also sorry about your experience with your op. I am also about to lose my left tube, actually. Well, it's not confirmed but it looks that way. I hope the recovery is speedy.
Glorious, I am thinking of you and really hope that things are ok and that hopefully it's a scare, but if not, that treatment resolves things. It must be incredibly hard.
PosTTC, good luck for Monday.
VD74, I read your post and it sounds so so hard. I wish I had something more useful to say.
Sorry I can't say more - back is not great right now.
AFM, we are faced with this decision which I posted about under the Endo forum I think. We have to decide by Monday: either have a lap to remove an endometrioma on my right (possibly the only working) ovary or go on with more IVF after a simple curette. Even the doctor won't advise which way to go. My IVF response dramatically decreased with my last lap (from 17 eggs per cycle to 4) and I have low ovarian reserve, so if we had a lap, we could give our 3 frosties a much better chance of implanting but prob could never do IVF again. It is so confusing. Also I got pregnant with my daughter one month after last lap, so it is tempting, but very high risk and kind end of the road option, ie if in 6 months, I'm not pregnant, then I probably won't ever get pregnant.
wishing health and happiness (as much as possible) to all ....
WW
Sunday 24 November 2013 :juggle:
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
CatyO - taking a break
Glorious - taking a break
Bestrong - waiting for AF
JoeSpratt - waiting for AF
Sarah4Kurt - waiting for AF
N2L - recovering from lap
Ceejelz - ???
Awesty - ???
Amy_jellybean - ???
Sgronan - ???
Kel82 - CD2
Rai - CD2
Mrs O'M - CD9
Miss B - CD9
Emma - CD10
Williever - CD11
TT40 - CD22
Babycakes - CD39
Waiting for Transfer
PositivelyTTC - CD15 2dpEPU
Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...13-4-a-194614/)
Juniper - CD23 4dpo
Got Their BFP in November :pray:
M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
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Sarah, I'm glad to hear the party went well. But so sorry to hear the CP was confirmed. :hug:
Worrywart, I haven't checked the endo board in a while. I'll go find your post...
*edit* I couldn't find it. I'm guessing your Dr won't make a recommendation because both options have some big pros and cons. The problem with leaving the endometrioma is that it is probably compromising the quality of your remaining eggs. But, as you say, removing it will likely also involve the removal of some healthy ovarian tissue, further reducing your reserve. Neither of those is a desirable outcome...
Hey Juniper, thanks so much for looking for the post. Sorry, it wasn't under Endo. I actually finally found it under Long Term, Female Factors, back in September, headed "endometrioma". Not sure how to link to the post. But from what you've said, you don't need to read it. It is exactly as you said! Very unsure, but leaning towards surgery. It is nearly 4 years since my last surgery. Still, I wonder, have I given IVF enough of a go (it's 4 transfers now in total, but there was one stim cycle cancelled for zero fert). Friends of mind did 10 transfers, but obviously they did not have the same issues, and had to do IVF anyway for severe male factor (but we also have a bit MFI). Ugh.:wall: There's no rational way of making choices sometimes I guess.
Worrywart, one of my ovaries was completely encased in endo, but we didn't know it because our first FS repeatedly refused to do a lap. We did 4 IVF and 1 FET with him - all BFN. After the 4th IVF, we changed to a new FS who did a lap and found the endo. He removed what he could and our next IVF (first one with the new FS), just 2 months after the surgery, gave us DD... It has crossed my mind that removing the endo from the ovary may have sped up my DOR (by damaging still-healthy tissue), but the endo itself was causing the DOR in the first place and leaving it there would have eventually led to the same destruction and every egg coming out of there had to pass through a layer of endo so any remaining viable eggs were being damaged upon release...
Some people would toss a coin and leave it to chance. But I'd take a bit of time to think it through and hopefully one of the options would eventually feel more "right" than the other. It's a sucky disease and a difficult decision with no right or wrong answer... :hug:
Juniper, thanks so much for your post. You know, it is quite weird how similar our stories are. I also had my first lap after repeated IUI/IVF failures and also against advice (the FS tried to dissuade me) and had stage 3/4 endo and a lot of endo removed from my left ovary, and was actually booked in for IVF, just waiting to call for day 1 but was pregnant. Your thinking is exactly how mine has been all along, but then the FS's really seem to push IVF as a panacea. It's also funny that you mention the coin toss, because I literally just said that to my husband 5 minutes ago! Thank you so much, it is really helping me to read this.
So sorry Sarah that it has ended in a chem again for you. You are one strong woman & I hope that this is not the end for you xxx
WW what a tough decision you have before you. Sorry I can't give any advice as I have no experience but hoping you all the very best xxx
WW, mine was "stage 3, almost stage 4" (direct quote from FS), but it was my right ovary... Our second FS was (and is) very pro-lap, it was just the first one that refused for 2 years... Adding to the similarity, my AMH last year (just before my second lap) was 1.5... (I don't want to know what it is now because I'm sure I'll be depressed about it)
So sorry to hear Sarah, hugs to you lovely lady.
Good luck for today positively!!! Will be thinking of you.
Sorry to hear you have a tough decision to make WW. I have no experience in that area, but wish you all the best.
Juniper, gosh this is strange! My AMH is also 1.5. A re-test two weeks later said it was 1.3! That was depressing. Like, oh ok it's decreasing on a daily basis. My FS did say that the test is unreliable and not definitive. Similar comments from my friend who is an experienced embryologist at Monash IVF. But yeah, obviously for me, it does have some significance, given the endo and ovarian surgery, and the low response .. blah blah blah... But I don't want to give it too much weight. I hate numbers.
Thanks JoeSpratt and Mrs O'M!
Monday 25 November 2013 :juggle:
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
CatyO - taking a break
Glorious - taking a break
Bestrong - waiting for AF
JoeSpratt - waiting for AF
Sarah4Kurt - waiting for AF
N2L - recovering from lap
Ceejelz - ???
Awesty - ???
Amy_jellybean - ???
Sgronan - ???
Kel82 - CD3
Rai - CD3
Mrs O'M - CD10
Miss B - CD10
Emma - CD11
Williever - CD12
TT40 - CD23
Babycakes - CD40
Waiting for Transfer
Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...13-4-a-194614/)
PositivelyTTC - CD16 0dp3dt
Juniper - CD24 5dpo
Got Their BFP in November :pray:
M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
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Hi Ladies,
Happy Monday to you all :)
WW I'm so very sorry to hear of your difficult decision and so sorry I cant offer any advice either I have no experience so pleased you have Juniper to talk to and compare notes with
Wishing everyone a lovely day filled with lots of GL
AFM - transfer has been done im now just taking it easy today watching a few episodes of Revenge season 3 :) thanks again for all your well wishes Ladies really appreciate it!
Rest well Postively TTC, good luck with your 2ww.
WW sorry to hear you have a tough decision to make.
Sarah I am so sorry.
AFM - saw FS today, he isn't concerned that there is anything wrong with me in regards to not having success so far. He said considering all the endo is gone and my uterus and pelvic area are all clean now, he said there is no reason why they won't stick. It is just of those things that something's it just doesn't work. :( so I start on oestrogen tonight and transfer should be 10th dec. we only have two embryos left so we will transfer both if all goes well. :pray:
PosTTC, enjoy your rest! Well done on getting to this point! Hey can I ask, how did you get to use the embryoscope? I just wondered, because it's never been mentioned to us and just wondering in what circumstances you get to use it.
Kel, it is so hard isn't it? When you just don't know what is happening in there, and why. I really hope that it really is just a matter of chance and that the next transfer is the one!:goodluck: Also I might not know your full story, so please excuse this question, but why aren't the embryos being transferred sequentially? I mean, why are you guys favouring double transfers? I have always wondered about that. If you don't feel like explaining things right now, then please do not worry at all!
WW
WW sounds like you have some tough decisions to make i'm so sorry it cant be easy xxx
posTTC wishing all the very best in your tww hopefully finger and toes crossed you get your bfp xxx
Kel really hoping all goes well and they both get transferred for you xxx
afm; so so not happy went to pick up meds today and they said I have to do bloods before I can do this cycle and the bloods will cost me an extra $400.00 that
I would have to pay straight away and I just don't have the extra $400 at the moment so I cant do this cycle so I went and got some clomid which I had a script for
but lets face it I just don't fall pg on clomid but at least I feel like i'm doing something if that makes sense which it doesn't so for the last 2 cycles something has happened
that I cant do iui I feel like something is stopping it if that makes sense so i'm really really p***ed off at the moment so another month wasted :wall: :wall:
rai, oh no! How frustrating! I'd be angry too! I know what you mean about needing to try something though... Even though we have only a 1% chance for a natural BFP, I cried all night last Monday when I thought we were missing the fertile window... I couldn't cope with the idea of not even having that small chance...
Kel, sorry, I can't remember if you've done clotting/immune testing?
So sorry rai, I can understand your frustration.
WW, our first four transfers were singles but our last one we decided to do a double just to try something different. And this time we are doing a double again because we only have the two left and it is just to basically use them up so to speak so we don't pay for another transfer. Our FS says that an embryo will do what it needs to do regardless of it is part of a double or a single transfer.
Juniper, to be honest I am not sure, we have had blood tests before both IVF cycles but I can't remember exactly what but he said that he is happy with the blood works so I am not sure what that entails. What do both of those tests look for? Is it a blood test?
Hi again,
Rai what a bummer you must be so frustrated this whole process is so expensive
WW i honestly don't know why we were selected to use the embryoscope in WA only 2 clinics have them I understand its relatively new technology. I googled it over the weekend and found the Melbourne IVF clinic website has a really good piece on it Victoria's Leading Fertility Specialists | Melbourne IVF have a read. So this morning after transfer we were shown the footage of the eggs as they divided etc and explained why some were better quality eggs than others it was amazing and It assists the FS in seeing what my eggs are like for future reference. It cost $350 for the 3 days of 24/7 filming none of which medicare covers
Kel all the best hope you get to transfer both your eggs in a couple of weeks
Have a great evening all x
Hi again,
Rai what a bummer you must be so frustrated this whole process is so expensive
WW i honestly don't know why we were selected to use the embryoscope in WA only 2 clinics have them I understand its relatively new technology. I googled it over the weekend and found the Melbourne IVF clinic website has a really good piece on it Victoria's Leading Fertility Specialists | Melbourne IVF have a read. So this morning after transfer we were shown the footage of the eggs as they divided etc and explained why some were better quality eggs than others it was amazing and It assists the FS in seeing what my eggs are like for future reference. It cost $350 for the 3 days of 24/7 filming none of which medicare covers
Kel all the best hope you get to transfer both your eggs in a couple of weeks
Have a great evening all x
Kel, the clotting tests are just a blood test. They took about 6 vials (or more?) when I had it done, so you'd probably remember it. It was the one time I ended up puking in the collection room at our clinic (I've done it plenty of other times are regular pathology places, but not at the clinic). The most common immune testing is an endometrial biopsy (to test for elevated uterine NK cells), but that's quite invasive... I haven't had the biopsy done. There are also some auto-immune issues that require just a blood test and others that you'd only investigate if you had other symptoms... A lot of FS don't believe in clotting/immune disorders affecting fertility, so be aware that your FS may dismiss it if you ask about it (or may not, but you won't know unless you ask)... I'm in the frustrating position of having b/t results indicative of a particular auto-immune disease but my GP won't treat it unless (or, more likely, "until") it gets worse. I had planned to ask the FS about it but didn't end up doing an IUI this cycle... If we can't do an IUI in December, I might just have to make an appt...
Thanks for explaining that to me juniper, it's quite interesting all of this stuff. I definitely haven't had them done, 6 vials, stuff that, they find it hard enough getting one for my pregnancy tests haha!! It is frustrating that drs have different opinions and will only act on something if they believe it is worth it. I hope you get some answers with your FS then about it.
Juniper - can you take your BT results showing the auto-immune issues to a nutritionist? I have been reading more about it and so many people have to wait until their dr decides to treat. The nutritionist I met the other day said in many cases diet can change things for the better.
Afm- all BTs were great. So no NK cells showing up. No auto immune issues. Glucose down and insulin levels halved. Could not ask for better results. I am healthy. Still overweight, but healthy :-)
This quiet cycle is flying by......
PosTTC thanks so much for telling me all about the embryoscope. It is really new, really interesting technology. I am keeping fingers and toes crossed for you right now.
Kel, thanks for sharing your story again. That makes sense. Keeping fingers crossed for the 10th.
Juniper, that sounds incredibly frustrating with your GP. That just kills me, that attitude.
AFM, still haven't decided, just waiting to get a bit more advice from the FS. We are leaning towards the lap. My thoughts are, I'll book it in, and just remember I can back out. Even if I'm on the table, I can rip out the anaesthetic and run! I actually heard of someone getting up during a dental procedure and just fleeing, with all the stuff in their mouth.
Tuesday 26 November 2013 :juggle:
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
CatyO - taking a break
Glorious - taking a break
Bestrong - waiting for AF
JoeSpratt - waiting for AF
Sarah4Kurt - waiting for AF
N2L - recovering from lap
Ceejelz - ???
Awesty - ???
Amy_jellybean - ???
Sgronan - ???
Kel82 - CD4
Rai - CD4
Mrs O'M - CD11
Miss B - CD11
Emma - CD12
Williever - CD13
TT40 - CD24
Babycakes - CD41
Waiting for Transfer
Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...13-4-a-194614/)
PositivelyTTC - CD17 1dp3dt
Juniper - CD25 6dpo
Got Their BFP in November :pray:
M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
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Williever, very glad to hear all the results are going well so far! My acupuncturist has given me some herbs to help, but she indicated they can only do so much and may not be a great benefit. She did offer to give me the name of a Dr who would definitely treat it, but I kind of got the vibe that the Dr was the type who would treat anything just because the patient asked, not because they agree it's needed. I really want to find someone who believes for themselves that it should be treated.
[edit: Actually, re-thinking that, what I really want is a consultation with an expert on the condition and to hear their opinion as to whether or not it should be treated...]
WW, sounds like a good plan. I had a giggle at your suggestion of ripping out the IV and making a run for it if you changed your mind! And the dental patient too!
Wednesday 27 November 2013 :juggle:
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
CatyO - taking a break
Glorious - taking a break
Bestrong - waiting for AF
JoeSpratt - waiting for AF
Sarah4Kurt - waiting for AF
N2L - recovering from lap
Ceejelz - ???
Awesty - ???
Amy_jellybean - ???
Sgronan - ???
Kel82 - CD5
Rai - CD5
Mrs O'M - CD12
Miss B - CD12
Emma - CD13
Williever - CD14
TT40 - CD25
Babycakes - CD42
Waiting for Transfer
Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...13-4-a-194614/)
PositivelyTTC - CD18 2dp3dt
Juniper - CD26 7dpo
Got Their BFP in November :pray:
M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Becnxavi, Shellbell, Jo_white
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Hi Ladies,
Just wanted to say Hi wishing you all a really lovely day
has anyone heard from Glorious? Just wondering how she is doing
GL and baby dust to everyone, thinking of you all
Morning Ladies,
Happy Thursday to all wishing you a good day
Just a quick question I have noticed in the past Ladies have been able to advise the HCG levels at 7dpo is this done by asking the FN when you call for your blood results?
I have my first bt tomorrow morning so I will then be half way through my TWW :p trying so hard to focus on other things and be positive but also scared to be too positive and have my heart broken again such a roller coaster
Morning Ladies,
Happy Thursday to all wishing you a good day
Just a quick question I have noticed in the past Ladies have been able to advise the HCG levels at 7dpo is this done by asking the FN when you call for your blood results?
I have my first bt tomorrow morning so I will then be half way through my TWW :p trying so hard to focus on other things and be positive but also scared to be too positive and have my heart broken again such a roller coaster
Sorry Ladies double post :(
Thursday 28 November 2013 :juggle:
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
CatyO - taking a break
Glorious - taking a break
Bestrong - waiting for AF
JoeSpratt - waiting for AF
Sarah4Kurt - waiting for AF
N2L - recovering from lap
Ceejelz - ???
Awesty - ???
Amy_jellybean - ???
Sgronan - ???
Kel82 - CD6
Rai - CD6
Mrs O'M - CD13
Miss B - CD13
Emma - CD14
Williever - CD15
TT40 - CD26
Babycakes - CD43
Waiting for Transfer
Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...13-4-a-194614/)
PositivelyTTC - CD19 3dp3dt
Juniper - CD27 8dpo
Got Their BFP in November :pray:
M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Becnxavi, Shellbell, Jo_white
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Friday 29 November 2013 :juggle:
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
CatyO - taking a break
Glorious - taking a break
Bestrong - waiting for AF
JoeSpratt - waiting for AF
Sarah4Kurt - waiting for AF
N2L - recovering from lap
Ceejelz - ???
Awesty - ???
Amy_jellybean - ???
Sgronan - ???
Kel82 - CD7
Rai - CD7
Mrs O'M - CD14
Miss B - CD14
Emma - CD15
Williever - CD16
TT40 - CD27
Babycakes - CD44
Waiting for Transfer
Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...13-4-a-194614/)
PositivelyTTC - CD20 4dp3dt
Juniper - CD28 9dpo
Got Their BFP in November :pray:
M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Becnxavi, Shellbell, Jo_white
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Hi all,
Hope everyone as happy and healthy as can be.
N2L, thinking about you and your recovery.
Glorious, also thinking about you too.
Juniper, I hope you find a really decent doctor who can properly consider your case. It can be a real challenge to find a good one.
PosTTC, any news on your bloods? I only got tested on something ridiculous like 17 days past EPU (we always seem to have it fall on a Friday), so I would always taken a million HPTs. But I'd imagine they're checking progesterone at that early stage right? Fingers crossed and baby dust.
AFM, bit of cr*p day. Just all of a sudden, went from feeling reasonably normal and fine, even upbeat, to feeling really sad/teary, just all of a sudden. And guess what? It was day 21 of my cycle. I feel like my PMS is getting worse with age, and esp with TTC. Does anyone find that? Like last month, we took the month off, and I swear I hardly noticed PMS, mood-wise or body-wise. This month, we did try, but having been told that I prob have an infected tube which will further impede implantation, I thought I had accepted the unlikelihood of pregnancy, and would be able to chill about it. I wonder - is it psychological or is it actually chemical? I guess it's both. Then I go and sign up for the following day: play date with a friend who has recently had her second and her friend who also recently had her second, and is pregnant with her third (which I did not know before I got there) and now my pregnant SIL is coming over with her 3 year old. I know I am incredibly lucky to have this problem, because the reason I am on these playdates is because of DD. It's just hard to have it in your face all day (I recently took a redundancy package from work, and haven't found paid work since, and kind of stopped looking because of IVF treatments). I need to get a job! Or maybe hang out with the oldies at the nursing home around the corner! Any thoughts welcome.
WW
x
Hi Ladies,
I'm sorry I've been MIA, we have had a lot going on in the last few weeks. First DS was sick with the cold, then I got sick, then DS came down with some sort of a virus, runny bum, vomiting, this has been going on since last Saturday and finally I took him to the doc on Wednesday and the doc ruled out gastro but confirmed some sort of a bug/virus. I took his stool sample to the doc yesterday so awaiting results. I have been feeling so down in the dumps, really flat all the time and just not like me. I have my FET tomorrow, I thought I'd be excited but I'm not, really don't know what's going on. DS has been playing up so much, he's going through such a defiant stage, very naughty, he's testing the boundries and my patience so much. I have to admit that I even worry if I'm ready for another baby. Maybe he's enough for me, he just doesn't seem to understand the word no and really lashes out when he's told off or simply is told 'no' which is 90% of the time! Anyway, I'm always thinking about you girls, I really hope you'll all get your BFP very soon. Will update you more after tomorrow.
B xxx
Hi Ladies, wishing you an awesome weekend
WW it was just a progesterone bt my levels are good which is no surprise as I'm taking 2 pessaries a day until the final bt :(
Sorry to hear you have been feeling blue I think its likely a combination of both emotions and hormones. TTC takes it out of you. As for hanging out with people who have either just had a baby or someone pregnant it is sooo hard I get really teary and find it very difficult to remain positive and optimistic though somedays are easier than others
Miss B sorry to hear you're having such a challenging time I would guess you're down in the dumps because you have so much going on.
Hope DS starts to feel better real soon and you too try put your feet up and have some you time....if its possible. GL for tomorrows FET!
AFM nothing but then im only 7 days into my wait so not expecting any symptoms as yet and with the pessaries you feel pregnant anyway. blood test is next friday my gosh am I hoping this is it. We have been trying for 4 years this month