Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - September/October 2009

Hello lovely ladies,

Have had the words busiest week at work and haven't had much time to check BB. A bit behind in things but I will try and catch up with a few personals.

Airline - I took my synarel about three hours late once. It had no effect on my cycle and my clinic told me not to stress about it as long as I was getting a sniff in twice a day and roughly 12 hours apart the occasional slip up didn't matter. Don't feel ridiculous either - it's great that you managed to take your mind off the whole TTC thing for a change.

SonyaLouise - sorry to hear that your cycle is going quiet to plan. I hope you are feeling more positive today.... it may be taking a bit longer but the upped FSH should help the other follies catch up and hopefully you will still get at least a couple to freeze.

EmeraldStar - the poem was lovely hun. Sorry to hear that you didn't get any frosties again but glad to hear your ET went well. Best of luck in your TWW. I hope that it isn't too painful and you manage to keep busy. :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

Loops - I hope you are feeling better and have had a fabulous time at the Ute muster. DH always wanted to go to that..... Although our ute went to ute heaven so can't anymore.

Lise - all the best for your EPU on Monday.

Nix - I hope you find that surge soon and can progress with ET.

Tantee - Sorry to hear that you have to have a month off. That sucks. I hope you manage to enjoy the break though.

Coral - I hope AF arrives for you soon. Nothing worse than waiting for her to finally show her face!

Melttc, Tracy, Juniper, Calin, MotherhoodHIC & anyone I have missed - I hope you are well and enjoying the weekend, particularly those that have the PH Monday!

Mitf xo :bluedust::pink-babydust:

airline, I did that once! Actually, it was on a really bad weekend where first I did a morning dose an hour late and then the next day I did my night-time dose 3 hours late. Like you, I was in an absolute tizz over it! But my FS said it didn't matter and my suppression check went just fine! Just kick back and enjoy the rest of your weekend! :hug:

Hi to everyone else! I'm indulging in sushi and wine (et al) this weekend, then back on the diet next week... My acupuncturist has me on so many supplements now that I think I'm going to end up getting confused and getting them wrong before the week's out... :rolleyes:

Evening everyone,

airline - love your way with words! I often feel that AF has the old numchucks out but would never have put it quite so! And yes, I always feel like i'm wishing my life away. I always seem to be thinking about the next stage in my life rather than enjoying where i'm up to. A friend of mine told me about a great book about how to avoid trying to do this, I can't quite remember what it is but will find out and let you know. I definitely need to read it myself.

Motherhood here i come - only a few days to go till injections! I know exactly what you mean, it's kind crazy to look forward to injecting yourself, but it's that one step closer.

coral - i'm SOOOOOO with you on the feeling emotional. And just like when AF is in town, I know it's just the hormones, but it's hard to take. Glad your DH is good to you and hope you're feeling better soon.

Nix - I haven't done a natural cycle so not sure about your follies. Hope you find the answers you're after soon, and that the surge happens ASAP! And will let you know details for Wednesday when I find out!

tantee - so sorry to hear you have to wait out a cycle :hug: I know how frustrated I was at having to wait for AF to arrive after our cancelled cycle, so I can only imagine how you're feeling. I hope you are able to use the time to do what you want, and that DH is able to get a start on those lifestyle changes.

emerald star - made me laugh that you're counting days down till both BT AND POAS!!

sonyalouise - i'm sorry you won't be there with flowers in your hair. :crossfingers: your follies grow nice and big with the increased dosage and that this journey is getting closer to the end for you.

mitf - thanks for the wishes! I bought a stack of books today so when i'm home next week I can rest on the couch ;)

juniper - glad you're enjoying the sushi and wine! DH went out for drinks last night and I SOOO wanted to go too. Instead I comforted myself with a shopping spree!

AFM - I've given myself the trigger drug (yay, last injection!) and am now settled on the couch watching DVDs with DH.

Hello to everyone else and hope you're all enjoying Saturday night.
lise xx

sonya...don't fret petal...I was extended for 2 days and 4 days on my first 2 cycles to allow the follies to mature and grow to a more respectable size. This time they've built that into my cycle.

mitf - how're you doing?? you didn't do an 'asfm' bit. hope all is ok.

juniper..thanks for your thoughts, and enjoy your sushi and wine!!

lise... congrats on the trigger injection...it's such a feeling of expectation now isn't it!!??
I try and appreciate the moment, and in actual fact, I think I do alright, but in my dark times...there's no reasoning with me. I'm sad..and that's that. Right now I'm ALL GOOD!!
slightly hungover today, but all good:redface:

AFM- DING DONG.....girls, Aunt Flo's here. Now hopefully she's in less of a bad mood than last time when she hung around far to long and threw her weight around a bit....and let me tell you, there was a bit of weight to throw around!:rolleyes:

11 days to BT...8 days to POAS :hooray:

Have a great Long Weekend Ladies!!!:grouphug:

Hi all,
Just a quick one today (i've been trying to take a break from all that is fertility related, but couldn't resist a quick check up on everyone)...

Nix76: I have been a double ovulator in the past and my FS said pretty much the same thing, its not common, but its not un-common or something....on a natural cycle i had a follie on each ovary. I remember when i had the scan i was thinking, 'um you've found the follie, why are you poking around the other ovary?
Later on with my new FS i also was having just a timed cycle to fill in a gap until i could do IVF and on that scan i had 3 follies....so i'm what you would call a double ovulator i think, i don't know if they both mature and release at the same time or not though?
Did you hear about the lady (probably in America) that was pregnant with two babies and they had different EDD's - like 2 weeks apart?

Hey girls
Sorry no personals today, Ive just read this page will go abck and read the ones before.....I have meant to keep up, but been just so busy this past week, looooong hours at work, very few days off. Back tonight infact.
Got last night off and managed dinner out with dh which was really nice.

OK down to the business of what you all want to know lol, saw FS on wednesday and started back on Synarel yesterday (ugh I hadnt forgotten how horrid it is either). AF seems to be thinking of coming already, hope she doesnt turn up too early I dont know if it will make a diff if I havnt been on synarel long enough?

so here we go again........

Thanks girls for your response to my stuff up with the synarel. I'm pretty calm about it, but I have to say....AF is behaving very strangely. As I've mentioned previously, she showed up showering me with a few 'old' gifts...then on Saturday at 11.15am after a trip to the loo... I happily announced to DH that she'd handed over the 'fresh' gifts..(warning tmi - bright pink, good amount) and rushed to BT clinic before they closed at 11.30. But she is being sooooo shy this time. DH says to remember it's a withdrawl bleed and not a real period, but it's a pretty pathetic display. I hope the results are ok when I phone, and they don't tell me I need yet another BT ..... or worse that it's an indication of something wrong...or...or...or...:doh:
ok going away to breathe...

....and I'm back.

Just spoken to the nurse,and 'sigh of relief'.. BT perfect she said, so synarel doing its job to down regulate, and as long as i've had a reasonable amount of AF (normal for less due to pill) they're happy for me to start injecting....tomorrow whoo hoooooooo:dance:

Any we're off again.......have a good day everyone, check in later.:D

Hey Girls,

Just a quick post as at work..

Emerald - not sure if anyone esle answered it - but in regards to surge - it is only something I have learnt about this last cycle. So - just before you ovulate you 'surge' - i think it is a hormone surge that goes sky high and then comes down again when you actually ovulate. So the surge happens a day before you ovulate. They get you to pee on this test (not a stick but very similar to PG test) each morning and can be evening too and if you get the double lines you are surging - the day before ovulation. I am told it is only a 12 hour window of surging so it can be missed. I was only told to pee on test in mornings as most people surge in the morning, but towards end of the week I was doing morning & night tests cos I didn't want to risk missing it. Hope that helps. Hope youare keeping sane in your 2WW.

Airline - I am sure 3 hours is not too bad - but I woudl have just called FS as soon as you can to be sure. I think that is the only good thing about this whole expensive process - lots of FF points from the credit card spend!!! Hope you are doing OK.

Sonya - yeah doing an FET - frozen embryon transfer. We have 2 in the freeze and so we have actually asked for both to be put back. They have been monitoring my follies to try and estimate ovulation - but that as well as pee on test thing - that is what told us when i was ovulating. i think you can also monitor your temp - tho I have not been doing that. Altho my TCM Dr has been taking my temp and asked me if I had ben monitoring it. I now understand about the 2 follicles and how it canhapen. I spoke to another MIVF nurse on Saturday and i think whilst it is not really common it is not a big deal and not un-common - same as what you said.
Also - I know that would be dis-appointing to hear those results but maybe with the up of the inject your others will catch up and you will get more eggs. I had about 8 follies (that they could see) and they collected 5 eggs, 3 fert and that was my first cycle. We have the 2 in the freeze and asking for those 2 to be put back this week. I hope they at least still do your transfer - which sounds like they will - and if they only get 'x' amount - just focus your energies on that and hopefully it will be all you need anyhow :-)

Lise - Well done on trigger - its all happening now for you! GL with EPU.

Mummawannabe - thanks for your notes that is quite interesting - I never knew you coudl get 3! WOW! That must be intense feeling - I have noted this weekend that its almost like when i was stimming and I can feel my ovaries workign overtime it feels like. Didn't hear about that lady - and that is weird, I still don't get how that could happen!

AFM - Got the pos result for Ovulation test on Sat morning and again on Sat arvo, so ovulation took place on Sunday. Called MIVf and am in for FET on Tuesday. Called them again this morning to ask for 2 to be put back (as we have 2 frozen) after lots of discussion between DP & I and consulting my mothers thoughts. My FS is away tho and so now I am waiting a call from his fill in to see what he has to say. When I asked about it on Saturday the nurse said due to my age (33) and that we had only done 1 cycle and my FS being away another FS would be reluctant to transfer 2. But it is what we want to do so we shall see how we go. Our reasons are that we want to increase our chances as much as we can, and also financial as you all know it is so expensive going cycle after cycle (and we've only been round once). Also if both don't stick then we have time to get another cycle in (we hope). But we shall see what happens and will keep you updated.

Hi Nix, thanks for the reply, but my bad.....i should have explained myself better :redface:...i understand the process of what the surge is however, with my IVF experiences i never had to bother checking with OPK's or symptoms etc...my clinic usually knows when to trigger me through blood tests...maybe its a different protocol????
Just wasn't sure why people have to check themselves....sorry if it sounds dumb..

Hey Emerald - oh sorry! First I don't have any BT's in this natural, drug free cycle. I would have had a BT today if I did not ov on the weekend so they could get a better idea of what is happening. So it was only based on US and pee kits. Interesting tho you talk about a trigger - do you mean a trigger injection? I don't have one of those. Or when you say trigger maybe you mean trigger for ET?
I think there are obviously a few variables between clinic to clinic, FS to FS and then of course person to person. I noticed that today when reading up on 2 emby transfers.

Hello Ladies,

Another new week is upon us....I am sure that this is good news for many of us who are anxiously awaiting the next milestone in our cycles...

lise ~ I have just saved this reply in word. I wrote a long reply last Thursday night only to lose the whole thing when I hit the "submit reply" button...aaaargg!!! Anyhow ? I hope your EPU went well today and everything is on track for the ET on Wednesday!

Nix~ The surge you are referring to is known as Luteinizing Hormone or LH. After detecting this surge you will ovulate within 24-36 hours. It?s important to do the test at the same time of the day and avoid drinking liquid 2 hours before the test as this can dilute your LH levels. Monitoring your basal body temperature (BBT) has to be done immediately upon waking up. By recording your BBT you can closely monitor when you are about to ovulate. A dip in temperature is the day you ovulate and a temperature spike following this dip confirms ovulation has occurred. The temperature increase is due to a surge of progesterone caused by ovulation. In addition to LH tests and BBT you can also chart your cervical mucous. However not that you will need to do any of this now because you have ovulated yay! I did all of the above for 3 consecutive months before surrendering to IVF. I wanted to give myself the best chance of conceiving naturally before attempting AC. GL with the FET tomorrow!!

Emerald ~ Great to hear you have two quality embies on board and I am sorry the others didn?t make it. Hope the TWW is going well and it?s not stressing you out too much!!! I love your little POAS countdown. I have my fingers and toes crossed for you!

Sonjalouise~ Sorry to hear that you didn?t get the results you were hoping for on your first scan. Hopefully the increase in your dosage will speed up the growth of the other follies that are lagging behind and there will be lots of eggs for EPU! Hang in there and try to be positive. :hug:

Airline~ Glad to hear your BT results were perfect and the synarel is working according to plan! I have been taking synarel over two weeks now and over it. It?s making me all nasally and when I cough it sounds like I have the flu. GL with the injections! I have just started taking mine ? more about that in the ?AFM? section.

Tantee~ Sorry to hear you couldn?t start your next cycle as planned. Try to rest up and enjoy the month off.

Tracy ~ GL with your next cycle ? hope synarel treats you well!

Mitf ~ hope you are well ? not too sure where you are up to in your cycle ?sorry ???

Hello to everyone else who I may have missed !

AFM ? well a lot has happened since my last post....I had my first down reg scan and got to see my little empty ovaries. As there were no problems with my scan my FS gave the green light for the FSH at 100IU. I was very excited to be embarking on the next stage of my cycle until I remembered about the injections. The nurse advised I would have to inject myself at 8pm. So the next day I was counting down the hours when I was due to inject myself - eeek. My DH injected me on the first and second night. Then on the third night which was yesterday I injected myself and girls you are right they are not that bad! I have a one bruise ? which is the injection DH gave me and now my stomach looks like a pin cushion, but apart from that all is good. I have my first scan this Wednesday so we will see what happens!

Before I go, one last question - just wondering if your partners provide a sperm sample at the clinic or feel more comfortable doing this from home and then driving to the clinic.....

xox
Mel

Me:35 DH:32 1 cheeky furbaby
TTC #1 Since Nov 07
IVF#1 Sept/Oct

Hello everybody!

Thanks for all your thoughts and wishes regarding EPU today - will write more a bit later!

mummawannabe - 2 different EDDs?? How funny!

Tracy - welcome back on the roller coaster! Hope it's all going okay for you so far this cycle. Sorry I can't help with your synarel question - I don't take it so have no idea.

airline - I hope that AF is behaving herself now and acting like she should be. And glad you can start injecting ;)

Nix - :goodluck: tomorrow. Sorry we won't cross paths but hope it all goes well. Which FS will you have this week? My FS said this cycle (after 1 cancelled cycle) that if we only had two or three embryos this cycle we'd transfer two. And i'm the same age as you. But as you said before, they're all different so hopefully it all goes to plan for you.

Emerald Star - I don't think there are any dumb questions when it comes to IVF (or anything else for that matter!). The more info we all have the better!

Mel - glad you found injecting yourself okay! Our original plan was for DH to do it so he could feel part of the process, but he wussed out completely and I do all of them myself! GL for your scan on Wednesday (are you at MIVF too? If so I might see you :) ) As for DH and his contribution, so far he's taken advantage of the 'supporting materials' at the clinic and although admits to some performance anxiety, hasn't had any problems. We have a bit of a joke that I get anaesthetic and he gets porn - sorry if TMI! :tmi:

AFM - had EPU today. Went well although the nurses told me to be there one hour before I needed to be, so I had loads of time to wait. Oh well. Have been resting up all day, and DH has been cleaning and cooked a roast dinner. Had 7 eggs collected so am hoping they all fertilise and we have a few to play with.

I'm terrified that i'm going to get another phone call before ET on Wednesday saying something has happened and we can't continue, though I know the chances of that happening again are small. So deep breaths, and positive thoughts.

Hope you all had a good Monday, especially those of you who enjoyed a public holiday :dance:

lise xx

Hey hey girls, how ya'll doing??

nix - have you heard from your fs yet re. popping to embies back? I hope they come to
the party if that's what you want to do. you're making an informed decision at the
end of the day

mel - great news that you're finding the injections not too bad. I decided that I'd give
them to myself as 1. dh not always there 2. if I have to go through it all, I'm
giving myself the flipping needles!

I do find numbing area with ice block helps though. dh has done the deed in my hospital room when i'm in theatre/recovery and drives it to clinic...5 min. away.

lise - 7 eggs is great...well done, and fingers crossed between now and wed. for ya

AFM - it's official AF has left the building. Very odd, fleeting visit, but clinic said all good. soooo 8am tom. morning is no. 1 injection. up to 225 gonal f now, so saying a :pray: and doing a:dance:, cos 2 weeks Wednesday and it's EPU whoo hoo!

Hi ladies, Thank you everyone for all your reassuring words, I have done a lot of research on follicle growth and feel a little more at ease. I guess I was just focusing on the fact my FS said there were only three possible follicles mature enough. I just hope the rest of them have caught up.

Lise- Great result for the egg pick up! I hope they all fertilise. How are you feeling? Have you recovered ok?

Mummawannabe- I saw that story about the woman with the two EDD, it is amazing!

Tracey- Great to hear you have started again.

Airline- I am so glad your AF worries are over, although reading your descriptions have been very amusing.

Nix- Great news about the surge finally arriving, hope the transfer goes well and they let you put the two frosties in. DH and I are secretly hoping we can put two in as well.

Meltcc- After losing a few epic posts I now write all my responses in word then copy and paste. Glad to hear your injections are going well. Dh has gives sample on site as we take over an hour to get to the clinic, he hasn?t had any problems as far as I know.

Emerald- Not long now!

AFM- will find out today when the EPU is, I am very ready to stop the hormones my body has started to protest!

hey girls,

Will anyone be at MIVF today - I will be there for ET at 3.20pm. My fill in FS has agreed to a 2 emby transfer. I could not beleive it when the nurse said he changed it on the system for me.

Quick one sorry..

Mel - thanks for that info on surge and ov and BBT - there is stuff in there that I didn't know. I'm going to print that and keep it - thanks heaps.

Lise - My FS is Scott Pearce but he is away so I have Houssam Elzeiny - his fill in. I have no idea who he is or anything about him, but I am sure he is fine adn is not going to make a dif to my ET results. He was the one who made the call on agreeing to a 2 emby transfer. Anyone heard of / use him at all?

Lise - 7 is a good number - that is really good. You will get a few out of that for sure and even if a couple don't make it that still seems like a good number. GL for ET.

Airline / Sonya - thanks foryour wishes. Am glad about the 2 back. Its still such a big decision. I needed more convincing than DP - he just wants to increase our chances and I think he really believes that both will not take so twins is a remote chance really. But we are Ok if twins does happen - my gosh that will be MASSIVE and instant family!! I will be so devestated tho if neither make it. I also have a bit of a theory that if my body is not ready then neither will take anyhow. So is it a waste? I've decided to just go with it and see what happens - and that there really is such little amount of actual control over this whle thing. Its up to mother nature from this arvo on. (and of course me to look after myself. Am taking tomorrow off to rest up well)

Speak to you ladies soon - must run am leaving work early obviously and off tomorrow so lots to do!

xx

Hey sonya, great news re. EPU date today. I'm imagining little blobby hormones running around your body with placards....probably similar to:protest::protest::protest:

Nix..you posted just as I started to. Good Luck..buckets of it with sticky dust vibes sprinkled on top!

AFM
well......this morning's first injection actually hurt a little, not putting needle in...or slowly pushing the end/button thing in, but we hold it in for 10 seconds and by 8 I was like, 'oooh that's sore' not sure if it was volume of liquid....hope it doesn't continue. For those who are worried about injecting...it still wasn't that bad...not as bad even as getting a BT. For me the worst bit is the speculum...and the ET. I have tilted uterus and oohhh it's not nice!
anyway, have a lovely day everyone!

Hi all,

OMG - did anyone else notice BB was down for most of today - I was having withdrawal symptoms!

Had ET today - the fill in FS was fantastic - highly recomend to anyone. It all went well and I was wrapped to have my DP there with me. Our 2 emby's thawed well, apparently they were 'x" number of cells and they both lost a cell each but then gained them back ?? - apparently a common thing. But they seemed pretty happy with the 2 and so we are now officially in the :2ww: BT on 20/10 Bring it on!!!!

Nix, yes!! I was dreadful this afternoon, trying to get on every 5 minutes. Methinks I need to get a life :redface:

airline - woohoo, injection time! Though sorry to hear it was a bit painful for you. If it's any consolation, they do get easier with time.

sonyalouise - I know what you mean! My hormones are out of control at the moment and i've put on several kilos since starting injections. I don't know if hormones make me eat chocolate or if I just have no self control when i'm hormonal, a bit chicken and the egg I guess! Hope you start to feel a bit better soon, and that EPU isn't far away.

Nix - glad ET went well today and that you got your two put back in :) Will be keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you :crossfingers: and hopefully will be joining you in the 2WW tomorrow.

AFM - ET tomorrow at 10:30. I've booked acupuncture appointments before and after and am still deciding how many days off work I should take. What do other people do after ET?

Anyway, i've got to hand the computer over to DH. Have a good night everyone.

lise xx

Nix- My FS is Hossam Elzeiney, and I really like him, even though he did make a mistake about which scan I was in for at one of our consults. Glad to hear the ET went well and that you liked him. It is god to hear feedback. My FS told me about two embryo transfers that if a 100 women under 35 had two transferred and all the pregnancies were successful that 33 would have twins. So you neer know you may end up with two yet.

Airline- You are funny, I think that at the moment the hormones are now running around jumping for joy because I just had my trigger and will be in for EPU Thursday yippee! I hope the injections get easier.

Lise- You must have been posting at the same time. Good luck with ET tomorrow, when did thhey let you know the ET time? I was told today about the EPU but not ET. I was thinking of calling tomorrow because I also need to book acupuncture. But it will be a Saturday so it might be a bit tricky.

I am not taking anytime off after ET as it is scheduled for Saturday, but I am having Weds-Friday off. I decided to take tomorrow off because the hormones were getting to me a little and I have this terrible wheezing cough that I pray doesn't turn into anything more.

Sleep well tonight

sonyalouise - glad you finally have dates for EPU and ET, such a nice feeling!! The nurses call the day before ET with the time and depending on where you go for acupuncture I've found they're great about fitting in ET acupuncture sessions.

Hi All,

I've been poking around the site for a little while and have decided to join the chat. I am about to start my first IVF cycle on Thursday and trying to keep the anxiety under control!

My story so far is that we have been TTC for about 3 years without absolutely no success but was repeatedly told by my GP just to keep trying due to my (relatively) young age. Finally changed doctors and was referred to FS in January. Turns out the endometriosis I've suffered from for almost 20 years is to blame, with scar tissue preventing anything from happening.

So here we are! i'm looking forward to sharing the experience with others going through the same thing as I have no one around me who really understands...

Good luck to everyone- may we all be blessed soon.

Lise- Thanks for the quick reply, I will wait until Friday, and hold off on annoying the nurses. just finished half a block of chocolate, it is all those hormones fault :lol: I really hope I am pregnant bacause then I can blame the pregnancy:D

Meg76- :welcome: to the forum, It is a great place to vent, share and find out a wealth of information. The ladies in here are great! It is so nice knowing that there are others having simlar experiences. I am guessing from your name that you are 32-33 years. I know the feeling of being told just keep trying you are still young and then before you know it you are not so young anymore and no closer to having a family.

Good luck with your cycle! Do you know what protocol you are on?

I am not posting anymore tonight. Yes Nix and Lise I was also having withdrawal symptoms. Very interesting considering I was a long time lurker and nervous about posting.

Meg76 - welcome! I'm sure you'll find loads of answers and support here, I know I have. Here's hoping now FS has identified the issue your ART journey is a short one.

Well no phone call yet, that's a good thing right?!

Hi ladies,

I have a couple of questions about Egg Pick Up. I was wondering if anyone has had it done at the Royal Womens? I was hoping I would be at Epworth but there are no beds :-(

If so could you tell me if they did a sedation (when you were half awake) or a general?

I know I should have asked my FS or nurse about it but I completely forgot when I was talking to them.

Lise- Hope everything is on track this morning.

Hey Meg - Welcome - as the girls said - BB is a great avenue of support & information.

Lise - stop stressing - I am sure everything will be fine! GL for ET today.

Sonya - with EPU I am sure it would be general as well. My only EPU was at Freemasons & it was general so I can't comment on RWomans. But I would have thought the standard is general - I read somewhere you can ask for a local so you can be awake for it.

At home today girls - still in my PJ's and taking it easy! Not thinking about the 2WW - trying to put it out of mind in a sense but still remember to take it easy, watch what I eat etc etc!!! We will see how sane I am feeling by the weekend!!!

Well I'm now officially in the 2WW!! No phone call this morning though while I was having acupuncture my phone rang a couple of times and I had a mini heart attack until I finally got to look at my phone and it was just a friend. Calling twice! Anyway out of the 7 eggs 6 fertilised but 3 of those were again multi nucleate (has anyone else had this? FS told us last time it was very rare but now it's happened to us twice...) so we ended up with 3. Don't know about the grade but FS was very happy with them and we transferred two. Of course I've got my twin names all picked out, covering all three possible combinations ;)

Enough about me. Sonyalouise - I've only had EPU at Freemasons also but from what I understand MIVF always use the same procedure and you won't be awake. At least that's what one of the nurses told me. GL, hope it gies well and you get lots of eggs!

Hope everyone is having a great day and enjoying the sunshine!

Silly me, Nix, glad you are resting up today, and glad I'll have a friend to share the 2WW with :) Now that I'm home I'm about to put the pyjamas back on and snuggle on the couch. DH has given me strict instructions not to move, I like it!!

Hi Ladies!

I hope everyone is doing well today! I'll apologise in advance for missing anyone so here is a big sorry :redface:!

Emerald Star - I hope the 2WW is treating you well and only... 4 days to POAS - yay! Lots and Lots of :stickyvibesgirl: to you! I have all of my fingers, toes, legs and arms crossed for you!

Airline - I hope those injections are working their magic and you are growing lots and lots of big follies! When is your next BT and scan?

lise - Glad to hear that the ET went well and lots and lots of :stickyvibesgirl: to you also! Twins.. that would fantastic.. instant family, he, he! Sorry to hear that 3 of your eggs were multi nucleate. I haven't heard of this before so I can't shed any light on the topic for you (sorry). Did you send the other one to freeze? In regards to time off - my transfer will be on a Saturday so I will have that and Sunday off to relax. I am also thinking of taking Monday and Tuesday as flex although not sure yet?

sonyalouise - I hope that you are feeling better and that you have managed to get rid of that terrible cough! Have you found out when your EPU is yet?

tantee - Thanks for sending AF my way as she arrived the day after you posted and I am happy to report that she has now left the building... yay! I am so sorry to hear that your FS can't fit you in this month and good luck :goodluck: with the cycle in November.

Meg76 - :welcome:! This is a great site and as mentioned, all the girls on here are fantastic! Good Luck with your cycle and I hope you are 1st time lucky!

Melttc - Good Luck with the scan today and I hope you have great results! My DH provides his sample at home and then we take it straight into the clinic... Glad to hear that you are not finding the injections as bad as you first thought - yay!

Nix - I'm so happy to hear that the transfer went well and a Big Good Luck with the 2WW! Do I hear twins... he, he! Lots and lots of :stickyvibesgirl: to you and I'm glad to hear that you are resting up...

Tracy - Good Luck :goodluck:with the cycle and I hope it brings you your long awaited BFP! I take Lucrin instead of synarel so I can't sympathise with you... By all accounts on BB, it doesn't seem all that pleasant so I think I am getting off lightly with Lucrin (except for the constant headaches!).

mitf - Thanks.. AF finally showed her head last Saturday and has now finished -yay! The minute she arrived I felt so much better on the emotional front! How is your FET cycle going?


AFM -Well, AF finally arrived last Saturday and I felt a flood of relief the minute she started... I'm still on the Lucrin and had a scan and BT yesterday to check that there was no activity going on in my ovaries before starting the FSH. Got the all clear yesterday (yay!) and started my FSH this morning at 150. I can' believe it, but I am already feeling things at work and are tender around the ovary area and bloated! Next step is a day 6 BT on Monday and then a scan on Friday to check how my follies are going. Slowly getting there and starting to get a little excited!

Good Afternoon Ladies,

I too noticed that BB was down yesterday. I thought it was actually a problem at my works end and was frustrated that I couldn't get my daily fix when I needed to take my mind off work for a few minutes.

Airline - thanks for asking after me. Things are all fine at my end... didn't do an AFM bit last time as I didn't really have anything to contribute. Was just waiting for the days to keep ticking over. I am getting down to the business end of things now. I hope the injections are getting easier ? luckily they have never bothered me too much.

Meg - Welcome from me also. As some of the other ladies have mentioned this is a great place to share your journey, seek advice or even just vent when needed. All the best as you navigate through your first IVF cycle. :crossfingers: you will have some beginners luck!

Lise - Glad to hear ET went well today today and I hope the acupuncture has helped you feel nice and relaxed. I have previously only taken the day off for ET although I am thinking of taking an extra 1-2 days depending on what day ET ends up falling. I am not sure what multi nucleate means but thinking back to high school science the nucleus is the centre of a cell so it sounds like you embies have 2 centre?s. I wonder if this is what happens when you get identical twins? :crossfingers: that you get a couple of strong embies to freeze anyway. :stickyvibesboy:

Sonya - I had a general for EPU, although I believe it is usually a lighter general than used for an operation. I have heard of other ladies only having a lighter sedation and they are usually groggy but still lucid. Enjoy your days off and GL with your EPU tomorrow.

Nix - Glad to hear that your FET went well and I hope you enjoy your day at home. There is nothing better than pottering around the house in your PJs. All the best for the TWW..... I look forward to hearing if it will be an instant family for you and DH. :stickyvibesgirl:

Melttc - my DH has provided the sample at home and at the clinic. I think he prefers the clinic as it is close to work and he doesn't have to worry about anything. The ladies at the clinic are discreet and they have a little 2 way draw that you put the sample in so he doesn't have to walk through the clinic and hand it over to the receptionist or anything. He did tell me though he never sits in the chair and is careful with what he touches! I also write all my post in word and paste into BB. Saves system issues plus it allows me to see any new posts which have arrived while typing my inevitable essay with so many ladies to keep up with. GL with your injections (I sometimes get bruises from the injections and even the acupuncturist) and I hope the scan went well today.

Tracy - hope you are managing to cope with the Synarel.... it really is quite horrid stuff.

EmeraldStar - I hope you are keeping sane on your TWW. x :stickyvibesgirl:

Loops - hope you had fun at the Deni ute muster. I saw it on 60 minutes the other night. Looked like fun (and very wet!) I hope you are felling better too.

Tantee, Coral, MHIC, mummawannabe and anyone else lurking I hope you are all well and things are progressing ok in your cycles.

AFM - This is my first FET so things are feeling all new again. I was up at the crack of dawn to have my first BT (day 10) and then had an acupuncture appointment all before work. I had a good chat to the my favourite nurse at the clinic and think I will be looking at ET around the 16/17/18. We also discussed options if this FET cycle isn't successful. If not I think I will head straight into another stim before the end of the year and the Medicare changes come into effect. Don't get me wrong I am very optimistic that hopefully this cycle will result in that elusive BFP but I want to have a plan for the future just in case. Plus that way I am not worrying about making any decisions while dealing with the horrible emotions that comes with a BFN..... I hope that makes sense - does in my head anyway.

Mitf xo

Hi all
Im back from my weekend at Deni Ute Muster and couple of days off work.
It was a great weekend - thanks for asking everyone. The weather wasnt too bad and the music and entertainment was fantastic - yet again.

Ive had a bit of a scan through but its hard to keep up when you've been gone for a while.

Hi and welcome to the newbies.
Good luck to those in TWW - hope you get your much deserved BFP's!
All the best to those jabbing and waiting for EPU's and ET's - try not too stress, the processes dont take long and Im sure all will be worth it.

Hi to everyone and all the best, lots of :bluedust::stickyvibesgirl::grouphug:

AFM - not much happening at all sadly on the babyfront. Waiting for Dec to hopefully do another stim cycle but still need to sell our tractor first.
Need good vibes people for selling it, ta xoxo

Loops, hmm, haven't had to send any "good selling" vibes before, but I'll see what I can muster up... (yes, that rather sad pun was intentional - sorry) Glad to hear you had a good weekend. Sounds like we might end up being cycle buddies in December if all goes to plan? Actually, on second thoughts, FX we both get (sticky) surprise BFP's before that!

Wow...ok how many different ways did I try and log onto the site yesterday!! The lazy 'favourites' way, the google way, the 'ok, ok, I'll type the whole address in the adress bar' way..... eventually my hormone inflicted mind worked out...it was just not gonna come to the party. I even wondered if it was cos too many of us were trying to log on at same time!!

Anyway.....onto personals, and you girls know the drill, if I don't mention you, it's cos I've not toggled enough between screens, and I apologise!!

Loops - fingers crossed you sell the tractor. Is it the kind of asset that's easy to get rid of ie - good market for them? For a momentI miss red your post, and thought you were waiting on 'Dec' or Declan your other half to start the stim cycle...then it all became clear !:doh::rolleyes: love that synarel!

Mitf - thanks for the thoughts, this mornings needle was tender too, but I've never had issue before, strange. Positive thoughts coming your way re. FET.

Coral - next BT is 13th and scan same day. I only started my injections yesterday, and you started yours today..congrats! They've extended my injections as I've 'blown out' the first 2 cycles so they've built exta days in this time. What day is your EPU? Mine is 21st - all being well:pray:

Lise - my FS says quality not quantity of eggs! Well done, and you sit there and relax..that's an order!!! :D

Meg - hello, and no offence but hopefully you won't stick around long!! We all want our journeys on here to be short and as sweet as poss. Check out some of the signatures, they'll give you hope, strength and provoke questions that will help you along in your journey.

Sonya - Thursday !! whoo hoo!!!:dance::dance: and then I"ll have to check up on folk in the 2ww thread, before I join at end of month...

AFM - feeling a little emotional but all good!! got days off with DH so good luck to all and I'll check in later

Lise - curiosity got the better of me and it seems I was half right. Multinucleation does refer to two nuclus' but it has nothing to do with twins. I found this on advancedfertility.com if anyone else is interested.

Presence of multinucleation

An embryo is multinucleated if more than one nucleus can be seen in any individual cell on either day 2 or day 3. After day 3 it is extremely difficult to identify the presence of multinucleation. The majority of multinucleated embryos have been shown to be chromosomally abnormal in PGD studies.

However, sometimes multinucleated embryos implant and lead to a healthy pregnancy and birth of a normal baby. These embryos are generally only transferred to the uterus if they are the only ones available.

Evening ladies,

Coral - thanks for the vibes! I'll grab them for sure :) DH and I have been discussing twins all day, though he's a bit scared of jinxing ourselves and doesn't want to forward plan anything! We've got one embryo left which we'll freeze, and fingers crossed we don't need it... Hope the injections go well for you and don't cause too much pain and tenderness.

mitf - aren't you good having blood tests AND acupuncture all before work, I salute you! And thanks for googling mulit nucleate for me! FS did explain it to us last time it happened, and I admit I spent hours researching it. I guess I was just wondering if it had happened to anyone else? FS said it was very rare and extremely unlikely it would happen to us again. Well this time we had three, so not sure if it's us or just bad luck...
FS also said that up until 6 months ago they would have transferred those embies, but now with further research and tracking they don't because those embies generally just have bad outcomes. Anyway, enough of me! I don't know how a FET cycle works, but am hoping it's going well for you and that you can lock in a ET date soon! I know what you mean about having a future plan, but :pray: that you won't need it.

Loops - glad you had a good time away! Will be sending some good selling vibes your way (funnily enough BB doesn't seem to have a pic for that ;) ) so you can get started again ASAP. What are your plans in the interim?

juniper - thanks for the chuckle :lol:

airline - that was so me!!! And i'm following your orders and haven't moved off the couch all day! DH is starting to get a little tired I think of tending to my every whim but he's still doing it bless him. Glad you've got some days off with your DH, hope you enjoy them.

sonyalouise - :goodluck: tomorrow, hope it all goes off without a hitch and you can rest up well.

To everyone else - hello!! Hope you're all going well. Yet again i've managed to write an essay without meaning to.

:bluedust::pink-babydust: to all.

lise xx

Hi all,

I am sort of new to here. Been lurking mostly.

Wishing you all :pink-babydust::stickyvibesgirl :bluedust::stickyvibesboy:

I was wondering if anyone knows if IUI is possible if you partner has a motility problem. I asked my FS and was told that at my age percentages for a live birth are so low with anything. But we are supposed to be doing our first IUI this month (once AF arrives) :doh: and now we just don't know......:doh::doh:

Thanks and any info would be greatly appreciated. xxxxxxxx

jilly, anything's possible! I'd just recommend deciding at the outset how many tries you want to give IUI before moving on. In particular, an injects+IUI cycle can be a good sort of trial run for IVF - you'd find out how you respond to the meds and the only difference then if you switch to IVF is adding in the suppression (depending on your protocol) and EPU/ET. FX this IUI does the trick though! :goodluck: