hi girls,
i have BAD ovulation pain today, for the last few hours, i think one last dtd tonight and im done, im excited to be nearly in the 2ww so early in my cycle !!!
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hi girls,
i have BAD ovulation pain today, for the last few hours, i think one last dtd tonight and im done, im excited to be nearly in the 2ww so early in my cycle !!!
Hi girls,
minnie- thats great, a good normal O is always a good sign, FX for your tww!!
sunbeam- wow I didn't know you were doing home :fertilise: either- how exciting!! It sounds like you have done the job at the right times, I wouldn't do it again tonight either if you've already O'd. Don't worry about the amount, I think my DH only gets a couple of mls ( sorry tmi everyone). No wonder you're exhausted, please TAKE IT EASY now you are in TWW :dance:
crafty- :hug: I knew someone a few years ago who had their first baby at 46 ( no ivf or anything) I've probably told you that already, but it goes to show, and you have proven fertility. Yeah I will be doing bloodtests instead of opks next time and earlier too.
Loops- yeah, you girls are all Oing at the same time- funny! Good luck with the tww x
Claresmummy- is your appt tomorrow? Best of luck if it is, you have waited a long time, i hope you feel your FS listens ( and has some answers lol)
Hi indiasmummy- wow how exciting for you!!!
afm- up and down emotionally, maybe i have pmt, I am CD21 today, for tte first time in a while i don't have sore boobs so of course I am panicking that AF won't come again, have to stress about something don't I?!? I am taking it easy with work etc and getting some dental work done while I am not in a cycle- yay- not!!
Just a quick note from me tonight, 1 more sleep and I am off to my new OB/GYN in the morning, very nervous right now even had a few tears today, I know I shouldn't stress but I can't help it. Thank goodness DF will be there with me tomorrow.
Good luck Minnie and Loops with catching your eggies girls, wishing you both all the very best.
Happy 2WW Sunbeam, hope you have caught your egg as well darl. FX for you all in the 2WW.
We are off to Toowoomba in the morning for my appointment then have to head back over to our property at Texas to get cattle in to send to the sale so not sure if I will be on here until Saturday night to let you all know how I get on.
Wish me luck ladies cause I am scared as hell right now.
xox
Hugs to you all.
Hi ladies,
Clairesmummy - Very best of luck for your appt tomorrow I really hope you get some answers or at least some test organised to get to the answers.
Saffy - What day did you O how far into your TTW are you? DON"T STRESS you will scare AF away doing that! Yuck for the dental work I don't envy you that.
Minnie - Yay for O'ing. I had very positive OPK on monday and I think I o'ed yesterday (tues) at about 2pm but yesterday's opk and sundays were both faint. It's a while since I've used them but I seem to remember getting a positive for 2 days before O'ing before. Is that what you get? Might try using them a bit earlier in the day (been doing it at 5pm as its a bit tricky at work, I used to do it at 2pm-ish) or even twice a day if I have to do more cycles so I get a better picture.
AFM- Well I'm already in TWW hell. I keep thinking about the OPKs and the sperm volume and my age and . . . . . . on and on and on! I know it is all c#@p but that's what the TWW is for, to torture yourself! Not doing another insem tonight as my temp was 36.7 this morning up from 36.4 and pretty positive I O'd at 2pm- ish yesterday. It would have been handy to do one this morning but donor boy lives 55 mins away so that is a bit tricky. Never mind, fingers crossed and just trying to chill!
Sunbeam- I am either 9 or 10 DPO, cos I'm not really sure when i o'd, maybe CD11 or 12- I only got ewcm on the sunday (CD11) thats the day we dtd thank god. I will try not to stress about AF coming- thanks.
Don't worry about missing this am, apparently the sperm has to already be in your tube waiting when you O ( I read that in a book) so its pointless doing anything after ovulating- I think your timing was great! ;)
sunbeam: yep i usually get a positive opt one day and ovulate the next (and it will also be positive on that day too)
saffy: :hugs: to you, i think our bodies are so confused with all we go through, i hope yours has a surprise for you ! i had to lol at the dentist work you are able to have done, wouldn't be my idea of a good time haha
Hi ladies, jsut thought I would pop in very quickly to let you all know how i got on today at my new OB GYN. No great news really, he checked all my tests everything is great great hormone levels and all BT came back very normal for recurrent MC. He is doing a few more BT on us both, chromosone BT for both DF and I and I aslo have to have a BT for celiaks disease don't think that is how you spell it though and also have to have a BT to check for Diabetes. If all these tests come back clear we are then in No mans land, he can't do anything more to help us so he said we would then need to move onto IVF but unfortunately IVF is way out of our price league we simply just can not afford to do IVF at all. I feel like a total waste of space right now, I feel I have wasted yet another day on the TTC journey for no reason at all. There is no way we can afford to pursue IVF treatment at all unless we were to win the lotto and that aint going to happen as I never put it in. I have been in tears since leaving the specialist at lunch time and I don't know how to even look to the future now with no more TTC. My doc told us today we could spend thousands and thousands of $ and never find a reason as to why I keep MC. He says he can't put me on any progesterone support or on aspirin as that's an IVF specialists area not his. He told me with the results from my BT I don't have any clotting disorders and I really don't need to be on Clomid as I am obviously ovulating in each cycle but I can take Clomid if I choose to. I did have a chromosone test done on my last bub that I MC and it all came back that everything with bub was totally normal. So I guess my question is that if we had a chromosone problem wouldnt it of come back saying that bub had it?????
I dont know how I am feeling right now, apart from feeling like a total waste of space and I now no longer feel like a woman.
Sorry for the all about me post ladies, thank you for reading.
Praying to god nobody ever has to go through what we are going through, and I wish you all the very best of luck with all your TTC journies.
Thank you for all your support over the years, BB has been a total blessing to me.
xox
:hug::hug: Oh Claresmummy-I'm so sorry you didn't get the answers you were hoping for.
Please don't give up, wait for the results of your testing, something may come up. I know it must be so hard to hear that they can't find anything wrong. As for not giving you prog or aspirin, that is B.S., the Obs I used to work for did and he wasn't ivf at all.
Take it easy sweet, you must be so disappointed :hug:
Claresmummy - I found OB's to be sympathetic but not really a specialist when it came to recurrent miscarriage. I saw an OB for my last two miscarriages and he was not much help. I insisted on being referred to a fertility specialist and it was a really good move on my part. The fertility specialist I saw was involved in IVF but it was not his sole concern. I did all the tests and he found nothing specific. As I could fall pregnant still and had had a child previously (same as you) he wasn't concerned with me getting pregnant but maintaining the pregnancy. I was put on progesterone support as I ovulate late in the cycle and he thought that might effect the environment for the baby. However, I now know he mainly felt I needed the baby aspirin as he has recommended I take it until 36 weeks. I think, even though tests showed nothing, he was likely right as I have a blood clot behind the placenta so maybe blood clotting was a problem with the 4 babies I lost. You don't need the OB to put you on baby aspirin as it's available over the counter. I use cartia low dose aspirin and take one a day. Cartia is good because it is coated so it doesn't upset your tummy long term. Buy some now and start taking it from the TWW period just in case.
I think IVF is fantastic but I'm not sure I understand the benefit for people like ourselves who can fall pregnant naturally. I found an interesting article you might like to look at.
IVF and the great lie about fertility and the over-40s... | Mail Online
Don't give up CM. I think you are a good candidate to be up the duff by the end of the year. Ask the OB or your GP to refer you to a fertility specialist, someone who can assist you with progesterone. Also, the other thing I found helpful with my FS was the close monitoring. He checked for a HB at 6, 8 and 10 weeks (he has US equipment in his office). I read that close monitoring helps prevent recurrent miscarriage but researchers have no idea why. I can't say why myself but it really helped my mental state so maybe that assisted. Good luck sweetie. I'm sorry your hopes were built up for this appointment only to be shattered like this.
Hi Lovelies,
Claire'smummy - you are so not a waste of space :comfort: and you have several good years ahead of you, its not over. I totally agree with India's mum you need a fertility specialist. I don't think IVF is the answer, it wasn't for me it only showed what we pretty much already knew, that he had poor sperm and what it did to my body was shocking. You can fall pregnant like me and for some reason it's just a numbers game, some of our bubs might have genetic issues and some just don't stick well, it doesn't put us out of the race, it's just heart breaking to keep going through the losses. All my blood tests came back good too (had no chromosome ones done that i recall so it is good you are getting these done). That said I feel the modified colorado protocol really helped with my last pg and I feel that if the bub had been okay it would have ended well. It involves a day of antibiotics, the baby asprin and 5 days of steriods. I'm doing it this time too apart from the antibiotic. Can't say why it would help given my blood tests showed nothing but like India'smum said maybe these things aren't an issue until we are pregnant. You could also look at the NK cell issue I know both Murrycod and Mindhugs tested positive for this (that's where the steriods are supposed to help thought they both had them for the first 12 weeks I think). For me prog support is also essential because I have PCO though I tested negative for all the tests for PCOS (I just don't have the syndrome part) again something I'd never have known about without a FS. Mindhugs also saw an endochronologist to check all her hormones much more closely before and during her pg which she says made all the difference.
Minnemouse - Yes I am using prog. I have crinone left from IVF and 200mg pesseries, FS suggested using both one at night and one in the morning but the crinone is so horrible I am just using a pesserie night and morning. Just going with my gut and what feels right.
Saffy - thanks yes I think our timing was good and I think the OPK was not strong the second day due to very dilute pee (sorry TMI) so I have calmed down about that. I am still concerned about the volume but I think that was also due to friends of mine who did their first donor insem last week telling me they got 7-9ml, (:o yuck, glad it was not that much, gross!)
Thanks lovely ladies - mwah
We've BD'd a little bit over the last couple of days but unfortunately Ive had a little bit of an irritation problem downstairs ;) which doesnt really put me in the mood too well, also I've done something to my neck and I dont know how but its killing me, I can hardly move it from side to side. Have heat packs on trying to recover so that we can have another go. We both had our acupuncture on Wed, which was great - DH went well and we have some Chinese herbs coming. She also gave DH some needles for smoking cravings :) Hope they work.
Clairesmummy ~ (((GBH))) :comfort: You certainly are NOT a waste of space! I feel a little bit the same sometimes - although I havent had miscarriages to the same extent as you but all our tests for all those things came back clear - so is our problem still a sperm issue - really a bit lost too. I think we just have to keep trying and not give up. I know its extremely hard to deal with the losses - but I still think you could get to full term at some stage. My work colleagues had a few losses before her beautiful little girl was born. I say hang in there - but at the same time perhaps cherish the little daughter you already have - even though I'm sure you do already. :pray: for you
Sunbeam ~ I reckon your timing sounds spot on as well - :goodluck:
Minnie ~ yep using the pre-seed again. :crossfingers: for you!
Saffy ~ GL hon, :crossfingers:
I'm pleased we have each other in the TWW - to go crazy together :)
India's mum ~ hope you are well.
Hope thats everyone - struggling to keep up lol.
wishing everyone really really sticky BFP's!!!
quiet in here at the moment - hope that means everyone is enjoying their weekends. I'm unfotunately working and also have the flu - bluhh. Think that is why I got the very sore neck - now my glands are swollen.
Think I'm O'ing today too, little later than I first thought - hope I feel like DTD when I get home. My temp only went up today - last night it was very low. Havent really had a chance to do an OPT but pretty sure this would be time.
Hey Loops sorry there's not many to chat to today. Poor thing having the flu I hope it is short lived and you feel better soon, sounds nasty. I hope you catch your eggie and join us in the TWW.:hug:
I hope everyone else is having a nice weekend.
hi girls,
clairesmummy: :hug: for you
saffy: any sign of af yet ?
sunbeam: 7-9mls eeeewwww i think i would prefer the 1ml you got ! how are you going with the 2ww ? will you test later this week ?
loops: do you think you have ovulated now ? how are you feeling ?
afm: no update really, have really bad back pain tonight but i tend to get that every couple of days anyway so apart from that just taking the 2ww day by day, don't really have a choice lol
:grouphug:Saffy~ Thank you so much for you kind words and encouragement darl. All of you ladies in here are just so wonderful and I hate feeling like I am on a downer for you all in here. You are all so supportive and so encouraging it makes it hard to want to give up. I don't mean that as a bad thing either so please don't take that the wrong way.
Hugs to you Saffy and thank you again.
Indias Mum~ Wow, thank you so much darl for your words of support and all the information you have passed onto me, after reading your post I couldn't help but sit back and think OMG maybe I do have a good chance of having another bub I just need the right FS to help me keep that bub. Your TTC journey sounds alot like mine, I always have O'd on around CD17-20 and I only have a 28 day cycle. I fell pregnant twice naturally in the 2.5 years we had been trying so was referred to an OB and he put me straight onto Clomid where I fell pregnant the first round of Clomid only to MC at 9.5 weeks. My OB picked up some microscopic blood in a urine test he did on me at 8.5weeks but he did an US the same day and bub had a very healthy heart beat and was wriggling around everywhere in there, he thought the blood was from a urine infection so he sent it to the lab, I still to this day feel he should of done a BT to check my hormone levels but once again I wasn't listened to and he never done it. So after my MC I found another OB to visit and hence the drama last week. Thanks for the link on the article it was truly a great read and gave me some new hope.
Sunbeam~ Thank you for your words of encouragement darl, it is so great to have such a wonderful support network on BB. I have always been able to count on you ladies for great advice and unbelievably wonderful support no matter what is happening with me and our TTC a healthy sticky bub. GBH to you and a huge thank you.
Loops~ Thank you also for your support darl, means alot to me. I hope you are or have caught that eggy of yours darl and good luck with your 2WW, sticky vibes and baby dust to you darl. xox
Minnie~ How are you travelling darl, hope you have caught your egg and you have a wonderful surprise at the end of your 2WW. And thank you for your wonderful advice you have been giving me the past few days, you truly are a treasue darl.
AFM~ I have no idea what I am up to in my cycle apart from it being CD9 today. Last night I went to bed with alot of Oing type pain once again on my right side near my ovaries it always seems to be on the one side every cycle, never left side this cycle or 2 then the right side, it been on my right side for the past 2 cycles and if this one goes the same that will be 3 cycles in a row with ovulation pain on my right side. OB is having me do my temp chart again, having problems remembering to take my temp in the morning though. After my melt down last Thursday after my OB appointment and after all the encouragement I got from all of you lovely ladies in here I decided to do some internet research on some FS in our area. I found that there are 4 FS that travel to Gympie on a roster basis and 1 of them come up once a week. Gympie is about 1.5hours drive from our home. I already have a referral to see DR James Moir from the Sunshine Coast from my last GP he is one of the specialist that travel to Gympie now. I found this out through Sunshine Coast IVFs website. So been thinking maybe I should make a phone call in the morning and see if I can have a chat to someone there about my situation and see what they say. Not much else to say right now so I hope you all had a lovely weekend, take care and thank you all again so much.
:grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:
Hi everyone, just a quickie tonight, will do persies tomorrow,
but... YES minnie, I had spotting tonight-WOOHOO- was so happy so hopefully AF isn't far away, have been sooooo teary this weekend and down about everything, it must have been pmt. If AF comes normally I will be so happy- I am normal again!!