LT TTC & Assisted Conception Feb-Mar 2011

kass: bummer about the power outage, keep on jabbing and won't be long now. yipee. good luck to you.

n2L: wow interesting facts, i wonder if it is the same if they do it in a private hospital ?, not looking forward to that bill and has to be paid on the day. about $1200 not inc anaesthetist bill.
thanks for sharing

afm: i am trying extra hard to be healthy, had acupuncture yesterday and forgot to post it. lol. she also put me on some fertility support 3 caps 2 x daily to boost my blood and help my body get ready for next IVF/ ICSI.
so exciting...... wish i was jabbing now but won't be long hope 2 weeks time. got meds in fridge waiting for me.

chat soon

JBM - I did it in a private hospital. It was $805 for the procedure and $320 for the anaesthetic.

Lodge it and see how you go!!!

Hi girls sounds like a lot of us are having a struggle this week such a rough ride this ivf journey!

N2L: glad to hear that you have decided to stay positive it is so hard but it really is too early and those HPT suck bigtime i wish i hadnt done them they are just so depressing..

Saffy: 9 follies is great they can be so harsh sometimes! I feel for you with hubbie men are so frustrating i know before we knew my hubbie didnt have any swimmers he was good for a while but they just cant handle it.. Mine is smoker and a drinker too and although he did give up for a while it was really hard for him and i really felt the pressure in the relationship at that time... We now use donor sperm and i have to say as hard as it was to accept that at the time it is much easier just having to focus on me and what i am doing especially with the herbs and accupuncture etc.

1moreplz: Sorry to hear that about the weight gain, i too have put on 10 kilos at least as i am on steroid treatment as well and it is so hard to shift so good on you for taking action... I have been so depressed this week i have eaten that many cadbury cream eggs its ridiculous, cakes etc... Feel disgusting so i have to shift my mental state and get back to the gym and eating well next week! Good luck with it.

AFM: i have probably had one of the worst weeks thru out my whole journey it has s**cked big time!
After getting a BFN last friday i have gone into quite a depressed state eating is out of control and i am starting to doubt that it is ever going to happen for me and my dh.

I am seeing a chinese herbalist in the city and i went to see her on monday and she has told me not to give up as i have a chromosone problem which is obviously affecting my egg quality.. She thinks that she can help me but im just not so sure anymore? I also discovered that i have NK cells which is treatable and i went to see the specialist yesterday to try and get some more feedback on that and find out what i have to do to sustain a pregnancy with NK Cells and he ended up telling me to give up basically that i obviously have a egg quality problem and that the NK cell thing can be treated and that i should use a egg donor and stop wasting our money!

Well how to make someone feel absolutely useless and like a fool i left there absolutely beside myself, questioning everything and have gone from confident to now thinking that maybe it just isnt going to happen!!

I chatted to DH and as we had only found out before this last cycle that i had NK cells we have decided to give a couple more goes to see if being on the treatment for that will make a difference as i have had a m/c before and had to morulas put back another time so it could have been the NK cells that didnt let me sustain a pregnancy?

So hard to know and i couldnt give a s**t about the money we will find it somewhere as i dont believe you cant put a price on getting a baby at the end! Im now thinking maybe we should also look into the adoption side of things as maybe it just isnt going to happen and im just not sure about a egg donor and sperm donor??

Sorry for the rant i am just so confused about everything and needed a shoulder so to speak!!

I am also closing down my business after 5 years so that is going to be quite a change, one i am looking forward too but scary at the same time and i have my gorgeous little dog who has got kidney disease and whose results this week got worse he is still happy and having a great time but me and dh worry about him too...

Aaargh something has to give soon for the better i keep trying to tell myself that but it just isnt happening!!!

Sorry girls thanks for listening i hope you are all having a nice weekend and lets hope things start to take a turn for the better in here x

Finally..........my transfer is Thursday.......My Birthday!

Williever thats great news! What a great day for a transfer... Sending you lots of babydust and sticky vibes
:crossfingers:

Thanks babe! How long after transfer is implantation supposed to be. If it worked could I have conceived on my Birthday? I am googling it right now!

Woo Hoooo....Congrats Willi!!

I think 5 day FETS can transfer as early as 24-48 hours so you never know.....!!!!

n2l

Oh Willi, I'm so happy for hun!! We'll be TWW buddies again, my transfer is next Saturday.

Thanks everyone for your advice re about DH to hang around at EPU on Monday. There's a shopping centre across the road, so he's just going to hang out over there until I'm done.

I can't do perssies as I'm on my phone, but I hope you're all having a wonderful weekend and staying positive xo

Hi Everyone!
Thought I might join here...haven't been on BB for a while as needed a break..
Just on first FET after M/C at 5 wks with first IVF last month.
So currently doing the daily LH tests waiting for O....Had first BT today as FS thinks O day may be today.
Has anyone else here gone onto a FET straight after a fresh cycle? My FS warned me that my body may misbehave after all the drugs taken for a stim cycle but was pleasently surprised on Tues when he said there was a nice follies and thick linning! He thought O day would be today and therefore will have 3dt on tues...
However one unusual thing...Im having so light bloody discharge (sorry for TMI) yesteday and today which is very unusual prior to O! Hope this means this will still be ok for transfer :)

Will read everyones post and then do some personals :)

xo

Hi albi,
I am on a FET cycle straight after a stim cycle. I too am having little to no cm. I was worried, but was told today that O is happening so not worried anymore. The drugs do take a while.......I had 10 follies this month all quite large. Maybe my body wanted more out of the stim cycle? Big chance of multiples so under strict instructions not to 'seal the deal' with DH.

Thanks ladies for all the responses. I am so excited and full of dread that I really don't know how to feel.....excited seems to be the main feeling. I'll stick with that!

Quick q: I have been planning to have my hair done next weekend (bleach and red highlights). Can this still go ahead after FET? Maybe I should go with an all over colour? Oh the important things in life.

Williever - Finally a date! Fingers crossed for an awesome bday present! Not sure about the hair question sorry!

Albi - Sorry to hear about your loss. Good luck with your transfer:bluedust::pink-babydust:

Blossom - sounds like things are really tough at the moment :hug: Do you know what sort of chromosomal problem you have? Maybe you could look into pgd to sort out the good ones. A second opinion might be a good idea as well. Sorry I can't be more helpful

afm - got our power back a couple of hours ago - hooray! Had to do the shot at the inlaws this morning - bit stressful - DH's mum wanted me to let her do the jab (she's an ex-nurse and a can be a bit pushy) so DH had to distract her for me - I ended up rushing and gave myself a nice bruise - ouch!

Willi - I know some people dont like to get their hair colored while pg...Maybe ask the hairdresser??? Is there any way you can move the appointment forward to give yourself peace of mind?

Kass- ouch for the bruise! I had a couple of doozies on my stomach from the trigger and the stim. They can hurt cant they!

Just wondering when people got AF when they had a BFN cycle. I have not so good cramping at the moment. It really feels like AF is coming. But then I am only 12dpo which is early for me. Would it still be the crinone???

Afternoon ladies

Thanks for your wishes for O'ing - must have helped because I got my smiley face this morning - YAY and we've DTD. And it was good, even though we were still thinking of TTC, we enjoyed it ;)
Have a relay for life fundraiser tonight and a 21st so should keep my mind off TTC at least for a night. I wont be overdoing it and drinking too much though either. Im managing to keep my :cold: at bay
Hope everyone has a nice weekend.

Blossom ~ :comfort::hug: that's horrible they made you feel that way - I thought specialist were supposed to be positive and give you hope. Dont give up though - I'm sure there are loads of people that have had similar issues and gone on to get PG. I would go and see some other specialists and more opinions. I am already starting to look into adoption even though we may try IVF again - because it's a back up and no matter what I know I can't go through life without a child. DH and I have decided against donor sperm - mainly because of DH but I dont wont to push him on that as I see his points. Goodluck hun, keep tryin!

Big welcome to Elocin and Albi ~ :goodluck: with your IVF journeys, hope you guys get BFP's 1st go!

Williever ~ Great news - will have FX'd for Thursday and a BFP for you!!

n2l ~ hang in there - stay pos! Could def be the Crinone - it gave me all sorts of cramping etc.

Kass ~ goodluck with rest of the jabbing - dont get too bruised!

Hi girls-

blossom- :hug:, what a bad few weeks you have had. The egg quality thing is on my mind too, if I don't get any joy by next year I will be investigating donor eggs ( my youngest sister probably, its only been casually mentioned though) Its a hard call, esp if you are already using donor sperm. Hope things improve for you, I know about the eating thing too, its hard not to comfort yourself when you feel down and food is easy to get! xx

N2L- cramping may still be a good sign, nothing you can do but wait, was your BT the 23rd??If theres no spotting I think you are still in w a chance xx

Williever- I had color done during a TWW before, it really can't be that toxic ( or we would all be having physical effects), and anyway the placenta isn't functioning til 6wks properly. I REALLY think its ok but this is just my opinion, and probably if you ask an acupuncturist etc they would say no. But if you get preggers, it surely it would be better to do it now than when you were 6-8wks?? Makes you feel better too xx

kass- thats funny about your MIL, glad the pwers back anyway!!

albi- GL with the FET, maybe the spotting is O spotting, some people get it. I haven't done back to backs so no idea sorry!

elocin- my DH went home but we only live 10mins away, so if he can entertain himself at the shops thats good.xx

JBM- 2 wks will fly and you will be jabbing xx

AFM- EPU next tuesday that is good because I have that day off so don't need to call in sick. DH was read the riot act about his drinking so is moping around complaining that all his thousands of social events are ruined :boohoo: Also, this is the funniest, when I txted him initially, he tried to blame the bad fertilisation rates on 'work stress' rather than his drinking :ROFL: Give me a break!!!

Last stim cycle i really got stressed about his lack of responsibiltiy but this time I am like you tantee and just letting it go cos its not worth me getting stressed over if he doesn't give a hoot!

Blossom

So sorry to hear you are still having such a rough time. How awful to be told that by your specialist. I'm not sure who you are seeing re the NK cells but Dr Gavin Sacks with IVF Aus in Sydney is who we saw and had success. There is also another guy in Melbourne Dr Mathias (not sure if I spelt it right) who is a specialist in the field and a girlfriend of mine just had a phone consult with him last week. We had an FS tell us that she had no idea what was going on and that we should also look at egg donor and surrogate because we had just had our 7th IVF failure with no explanation. I had already been to see Dr Sacks but we decided to have one last go with this FS in our home state and although we were very open to a donor we wanted to explore all our options first. She also told me she believed immune therapy to be witch doctoring. Well it worked on the third transfer with Dr Sacks (he said he believed we would have success within three goes) and I now have a 10 day old baby girl. I firmly believe that the NK cell treatment was the missing piece of the puzzle.

The other thing which may be helpful is to get a copy of Dr Alan Beer's 'Is your body baby friendly?' as it is all about immune issues and I recall reading about how elevated NK cell activity can affect egg quality because of the toxins released so treating the NK cells may well have a positive affect on the egg quality.

Hoping you start feeling better soon.

Cheers Trea

Saffy - your poor dh :rolleyes: they just don't get it, do they? Hope he behaves himself over the next couple of weeks without too much of a song and dance!

Loops - yay for you :) Hope you had a good night

n2l - af rocks up a day or two after bt for me. Are you testing tomorrow? Good luck :crossfingers:

Hiya Kass

Yep - having my blood test tomorrow.

Unfortunately I am home by myself (DP gone fishing, DD at friend's) so I am torturing myself with Dr Google. I have found a new, exciting edition of Dr Google too - it is called Dr Google Forum Posters Edition. It's just as fun, but way more confusing. You get to read 120,371,203,912,093,819,283 forum posts from women across the globe who have endured the same 2ww with varying symptoms and outcomes. If you are in the mood for a mindf*ck, I totally recommend it!!!!

I spoke to a clinic nurse today (couldnt help myself - I rang regarding my latest symptoms) and she said something interesting... She said that 70 per cent of women who are going to get a BFN are already bleeding when they come in for their blood test.

Not sure it pertains to me because I am going in two days early for my bt, but it's something to keep in mind for the future.

As it is, I am 99.9% sure that AF is on her way. Have been cramping all day. Still some brown blood flecks in crinone too.....

n2l x

Hey Trea thanks for that info..
i have actually ordered the book so should have that by next week..
In regards to treatment i saw Dr Sacks for NK cells and i am in the 75th percentile but he said that he doesnt think that that is the problem and is sure that part can be treated but with regards to my mosaic turner syndrome which is a chromosone problem he seems to think i am wasting my time trying altogether as it is probably the quality of my eggs?
It is so hard to know what to do but in my heart i dont think i can give up yet as i have only found out about the killer cells after my last cycle which ended in BFN but we dont know if that would have made a difference with my first m/c and 2nd transfer where 2 good embies where put back but no result if i was getting treatment for it?
I know i am also probably not wanting to accept that it may just not happen this journey just sucks im not enjoying it at all at the moment trying to clutch onto anything i can.
Hopefully the chinese herbalist who still believes that she can help will be able to help me improve my egg quality and we can get one to stick.....
Hope you having a nice weekend.
x

n2l - I know the feeling well, but I hope you're wrong:crossfingers:

Stay away from dr google!!!

Blossom – wow, your post was just like you were reading directly from my mind, I am in the exact same mindset as you and have been feeling that way for the past few weeks now. Just can’t seem to snap out of it and it is a really, really huge thing to try and get your head around, that it may never happen. I’m sorry, but I reckon your specialist is a bit of an arse being so blunt about everything. Surely, it is a positive thing that, as you said, you have managed to get pg before and had some good embryos – if I was in your position, I’d definitely be giving it at least another shot with having the NK cells under control. Big big hugs to you hun, I totally am sympathising with you atm.

Williever – wow, how much of an awesome birthday pressie would that be!!!! Hoping it is a great omen for what is to come. As for your hair colour dilemma – my hairdresser has been through ivf herself, so constantly has coloured hair and has a beautiful little 18 month old as a result of treatment so all is not lost, perhaps?

N2L – hey chick, hope you are doing better. That first BFN, when you have pinned everything on, is such a blow. But pooh to the hpt, bring on the BT – loving your attitude!! Please can I have some of that??!!

Loops – woot to the eggie – glad you managed to get one in there and it wasn’t entirely about ttc ;)

Elocin – welcome to our little group, FX it’s a short and sweet stay for you 

HI JBM, Kass, Tantee and everyone I have missed, I know that there are loads.
Been very much MIA. As I mentioned to Blossom, I have had a crap few weeks, to the point where I took a week’s stress leave from work. Firstly, I am really really pi$$ed at our clinic as when we got the official BFN from them, I asked to make a followup appointment, to which my nurse said that they would have a meeting about me first, then make one. This was three weeks ago and STILL no appointment. I will be ringing on Tuesday (public holiday here tomorrow) and putting on my cranky pants. I can’t move on from this cycle until we’ve had that followup because I am so concerned about what happens next. Nobody at my clinic knows what went wrong and if they don’t know what went wrong, how can they put a decent plan of attack in for next time? Which is June/July. It’s really got me thinking that we may never realise our dream. DH doesn’t even want to try again – I’ve convinced him to do one more but is that enough? I don’t know if I’m quite ready to give up and this has been the first time we haven’t been on entirely the same page throughout this whole process. We have already agreed we don’t want to go down the donor or adoption route as its just not for us.
A friend of mine is going to Repromed in Christchurch and was telling me about their success rates, supposedly some of the best in Australasia and am very tempted just to go there and get a second opinion. Though it will mean a 1000km round trip for us each time. Have any of you ladies changed clinics at any stage? I’ve got the guilts even thinking about it, but as this friend said, nice dr and nurses do not necessarily equal baby. Which is so true, but then there is this other voice in my head going on – in my job, I have to deal with my nurses on a fairly regular basis which I would feel really awkward about if we do change – aaaarrrrggghh so much to think about. I really don’t know if I’m coming or going right now which is why we REALLY need our followup appointment.

Thanks Mel! It would be a great Birthday pressie, but trying to keep that added pressure off...We will seee how that goes.

As for changing clinics. I don't think any of us should ever feel guilty for that. This is a big money making thing for clinics around the world. I acknowledge that they do care about getting us our babies, but it still makes money. As with anything you should be able to shop around. When I was researching ivf (man how far back that was!), it was one of the top tips - shop around and don't feel guilty about it. The writer was very sure that you should look around and find a clinic that you are completly happy with.
We are paying top bucks, but I am completly happy with the clinic. I know some some horror stories from back home (UK) so the clinic was a very important decision for me. DH was happy for me to make that decision (surprise, surprise).
Whilst living in Dubai a friend of mine travelled to South Africa for her ivf cycles (not succesful, but she has two bubs now). So I suppose no distance is too far either.
I've waffled on a bit...sorry x

Hey Melissa we have been to 3 clinics prior to this one... the first i didnt like the specialist and if we hadnt changed we would never have found out about my problems.! The second clinic was great but we couldnt go any further with them and once again they found things the first didnt but they didnt find things that the other clinics have since!
The clinic we are now at is due to Donor sperm and the legalities but my FS is the best i have been to and i believe that if i am going to get pregnant he is the man for the job! He really pushes the boundaries and isnt afraid to let me try new things and they ran tests on me that the other clinics have and we have found out things that we would never have known had we stayed.
I tell you my gut was what i listened to and each time i knew it wasnt right or i didnt feel comfortable!
I say go for a 2nd opinion because you never know and you will rebuild those relationships with the nurses.
I travel from Sydney to Brisbane for treatment each time so it can be done.
Good luck with your decision and i hope you start to feel a little better soon.
I have chatted to DH tonight and we have made some decisions and feel better already so set to try again beginning of May.
x

Hi all
Happy Monday!
I am on my way to bt before work. I hold out zero hope. The cramping has gone but there was a little blood when I wiped this morning. I am pretty sure the only thing holding back the AF floodgates is the crinone. At least I will be out of this misery in a few hours. Unfortunately I will be smack bang in the middle of a new kind :(

I am interested in what you girls have to say about the nk cells. I have not been tested for that or anything else like that. Do you guys recommend I ask fs for a new round of tests? What should I ask for?
I always assumed I was my weight and lining issues that prevented pg but perhaps it is something else???

I realize my last few posts have been all "me" posts. I am sorry I have been so self centred. Please be assured I have been thinking of you all...I promise I will be back for persies x

Have a good day everyone :)


N2L

Blossom

You sound like you have been on such a long, hard journey to discover what your issues may be and I was not aware you had a chromosonal disorder. I truly hope that with your donor, your NK cell treatment and herbal treatment that you will get you BFP!! I know it is hard to keep going and not give up. Sometimes just stopping for awhile is necessary but I know in the back of your mind you can never really stop thinking about it. I'll be stalking this thread, looking out for good news from you in the near future and when it happens all the tears, sadness, frustration, anger and fear will go away. You will never forget how it felt but it will seem like a world away.

Hugs to all still walking this path.

Cheers Trea

hi girls,

N2L- don't stress about your posts, its hard when you are in the tww, of course you are worried about everything. Sorry AF is coming, nothing i can say to make it better i know, :hug: xx

blossom- I think you should try again too, anything can happen xx I know that FS's get stressed about our age, but you nearly made it before and if they are overcoming the NK cells, you should give it a go. Best of luck xx

Melissa- its your journey, don't be afraid to get a 2nd opinion, and changing clinics will all be worth a small amount of awkwardness with the nurses if you get a BFP!!! I am thinking of changing clinics too if this cycle doesn't work xx

WillIever and Elocin- I am probably transferring on sunday so see you in the tww!

Hi kass, trea and 1moreplz ( if you are still lurking)

afm- EPU tomorrow, had a terrible weekend with DH being a *can't think of a non swear word but you get the picture*, so sick of his moods before ivf procedures, I can't afford to stress about it though, spent the whole weekend wishing I had a supportive partner, even though he would think he was.

FX for lots of eggs for me, cluck cluck!

Back later. Still at work. But it's a bfn for me :(

N2L im so sorry babe sending you big hugs x

Thanks girls for all your support and kindness i have had such a horrible couple of weeks i have never felt so low and beaten... Back to the gym today so hopefully i will start getting back to my oldself soon?
I have been unable to get my body temp under control due to the hormones i am struggling big time just break out sweating constantly and i mean dripping its just making me go mental and i get so embarrassed and uncomfortable so once i get that back on track hopefully ill start to feel myself again.
Hope you all having a good start to the week.
x

Hi girls,

I have been MIA the last couple of weeks feeling a bit down after last cycle. I have been following you all though, and sad there are no BFPs to celebrate. Boo.
I thought i would be in the TWW by now, but something funny is happening - have had five blood tests this past week, and yet to ovulate. Which means i would be having a 34 day cycle (so far) which just never happens. I am regular as clockwork, 28 days. The last stim cycle has obviously been a shock to the system. The nurse said one more test on weds and if nothing is happening, then cancel, and try next month, which in reality will only be a week and a half away. I confess i secretly hope to cancel, because i dont think i am in an emotional state to have another BFN so soon after the last one. I guess wait and see on weds. Hmmmm.

N2l - so sorry for your Bfn hun, hope you are ok.
Blossum - my old TWW buddy, so sorry things didnt work out for you this time. Hugs to you sweetie.
Williever - good luck with your transfer! Everything crossed for you!
Elocin - same for you, you go girl.
Saffy - good luckwith EPU,hope all goes well and you get lots of good 'uns.

Big hey to everyone else who is counting days, jabbing, sniffing etc....!


P.s.am watching sami lukas's show and hmmmmm, not sure about her?

Morning everyone!

Ntl - huge hugs - bfn is never easy.

Melissa - have you been able to make an appointment yet? sorry you havent been having a good week, hope you feel more on top of things soon.

Blossom - glad you've decided to try again. I hope the nk treatment and herbs will make the difference next time.

Saffy - hope your pick up went really well today!

Elocin - how did you go yesterday? Hope you get good fert results today!

Jayejaye - hope your cycle is back to normal next month - I'm also a 28/29 day person and I hate that ivf can affect that. What day did you do your first Bt? I've started doing mine from day 10 as I usually o pretty early - is it possible they've missed it?

Hi williever, jbm, loops, tantee, 1moreplz, albi, and anyone I've missed (sorry!)

Afm - Bt tomorrow - hopefully everything is as it should be - jabs are making me sleepy and I'm ready to stop them now!

Hi girls,

Kass, thanks for checking up on me :)

EPU went well yesterday, they retrieved 8 eggs and I've called the clinic this morning and 6 of them have fertilised. I *hope* they are good numbers!!

Kass, GL tomorrow with your BT. I was the same towards the end of the jabs, very sleepy and very over it.

Jayejaye, I hope your results get you exactly the outcome you want :hug:

Blossom, I hope you're feeling like your old self again soon. There's nothing worse than feeling crappy.

N2L, big hugs honey :hug:

Saffy, I hope your EPU has given you some big, juicy numbers. Look after yourself.

Melissa, sorry to hear you're not having a great time at the moment. If you're not happy with your clinic, definitely try and find someone else. I changed FS' after getting absolutely no help from my first one. There was no communication after my diagnosis of hydrosalpinx... she said to me 'go and have a chat to your husband and let me know what you want to do'... ummmmmm, no lady. I'm paying you the big bucks to tell ME what to do. And honestly, my new FS is fantastic. If you don't feel comfortable, walk away.

Willi, how are you feeling in the lead up to Thursday hun? What a wonderful birthday it will be.

Hi to anyone else I've missed.

afm, I'm still feeling a bit sore and sorry for myself after yesterday. Still getting some bright red spotting and I find it hard to sit down for too long. Thanks goodness I've taken today off work as well.

Just wondering, did any of call the clinic between finding out about the fertilisation and transfer to check on the embryos? The scientist just said to me this morning 'ok, see you Saturday'... can I call again on Thursday to check on my babies??

Hi kass,

First BT was on day 11, which i would think is ok. Normally ovulate day 14 previous FET's but who knows what the stim did to me. So today is day 19. As i said, i am not too fussed if cancel. Still a bit fragile emotionally. I hate how people ask how you are going and think that you should just be able to get on with the next cycle. And this time, i even had a "at least you have DS" comment from someone. I felt like saying "yes, and also so lucky to have such a pain in the arse like you for a sister in law". Ha ha.

Elocin - they are awesome numbers!! Congrats, totally ok to call the nurse!!!

hi chicks,

epu went well, got 9 eggs, so v happy with that! Bit groggy and crampy so will do persies later, but congrats elocin for a good epu! saffy xx

The scan today showed the embryo had grown but didn't have a heartbeat. I'm booked in for a currette on Friday. Although I was prepared for bad news I still can't believe I'm going through this again.:wall:

happybaby: i am sending you a really big hug, wish it was more. i am so sorry for your loss. hope all goes well on friday. x o x o
saffy: good job EPU. now the big ET and dreaded 2ww. good luck to you. fingers crossed.
jayejaye: ha ha love what you said. yeah some people can be so insensitive. try to ignore them. good luck to you for next time.
elocin: great job with epu. hope et goes well for you'on sat. fingers crossed for you . it seems a lot of people are doing cycles atm.
kass: good luck with bt and those eggis are growing well. jabbing will be over soon. woohoo.
blossum: sending you a hug. thank god for BB at least we all know what each other are going thru a bit and can be supportive also. hope you get a big hug for real from someone. x o
n2L: oh so sorry. hug for you too. x
saffy: good luck epu and et. as for DH sometimes thay just don't know how to handle helping us thru this emotional thing, i know my DH took so long to agree to do 2nd IVF cause he saw what it did to me mentally mostly. hope he has a better week. hope all goes well for you too.
williever: hi to you. good luck also

did i forget anyone ?

hope not

afm: well i am gtting closer now to next cycle. woohoo. go off pill in 11 days. and counting down.......
had the day off work, but lots jobs to do anyways. also i have friday off but DH and i have work to do at home. bummer hey. but i am off to melb for some work/ holiday next week for 4 days so i will be rested ready for those needles and synarel to start. chat soon everyone.

Nic - check away hun! I was called every other day with updates. I think it's natural o want to check up on your little ones. :thumbsup:

happybaby - so sorry hun. What can I say? It's terrible to have to go through what you are going through. Stay strong :hug:

n2l - :comfort: Although you had this in mind it is still so hard! Thinking of you xxx

saffy - great news! Good luck with the transfer xx

kass - there was a moment for me when I was over it! It is hard work, but try to keep at it. Hope there are some great eggs in there!

Hi everyone. There's so much going on. I will try to keep up.

afm - BT tomorrow to check levels. Thursday is finally the day :leap: I am just trying to keep up at work. One more day!!! I have started the progesterone pessaries. THis emotional ride has left me totally exhausted. I finish work and need to sleep. I am also quite an emotional wreck.....almost crying all day long.

oh yes an today I went to the post office and had to face Mothers Day cards..........:hide:

Happybaby - I'm so sorry hun, big big :hug: to you. Take care of yourself, I just wish there was something I could say to help :(

N2L - big hug to you too, babe. Hope you are doing ok

Williever - yup, this really takes it out of you - physically and emotionally. I cry at the drop of a hat at the best of times so I am just a big sodden mess on ivf drugs :redface:. Good luck for tomorrow. Wow, thats amazing that your friend travelled from Dubai to South Africa for treatment. And here I am procrastinating at the thought of our travel!!!! You are so right, fertility treatment is such an enormous cash cow to clinics - it does kind of annoy me that so much money can be made out f such a hugely emotive thing and a thing that is such a fundamental reason for us even being here. Hmmmmm, need to stop overthinking stuff.

JBM - yay for finally being so close. Have a lovely holiday, hope you come back all nice and relaxed for the fun to begin!!

Saffy - woohoo you!! Congrats on your EPU, hope you aren't feeling too sore from it

Elocin - yeah, def call your clinic to check on your embies - did they call you to let you know how many fertilised? We usually get day by day progress reports from the embryologist. Can't believe your FS thought you could tell her what you wanted to do? Uh, NO. We've had things that have been left up to us in the past but have been strongly advised on the best thing to decide which is ok. Hope your embies keep going strong.

Jayejaye - stupid bodies after stupid ivf. I am CD20 today and don't think I have o'ed - usually am a CD15 kinda gal but not this month. Hope your BT brings you the news you want today - can understand the feeling a bit too fragile to progress at this point.

Blossom - thanks hun. Glad that you have managed to have a talk with DH and you seem to be getting back into things. Do you find the gym helps with managing everything? I've started up running again and the stress relief I get from it is enormous. Its great, I can cry away to myself and noone knows, then I'm too buggered to feel anything!!!!

Kass - :hello:

Thanks for all the support after my last post. So I rang my clinic yesterday to see about a followup as we STILL hadn't heard anything (bearing in mind that our last cycle finished at the end of Feb) and I get the receptionist. Now this chick SO should not be in that job. I explained everything to her, ie time frame, crap cycle, asked to make appt 3 weeks ago etc etc and this was her reply. "Oh yeah, I saw that bit of paper somewhere . . . but you know . . . I've been busy and one of the FS is away so the other is doing all his work too, so she's busy . . . and she's away for the week . . . and again in a few weeks . . . in fact she's not here much really. Oh, we might be able to fit you in at the end of May but . . . I don't know. I'll just have to ring you back". All said in a totally bored, disinterested way, like I'd interrrupted her filing her nails. WTF? I was So mad, and she never rang back. I got to work last night and had a look on the system (a perk of working within the hospital) and someone has obviously told her that the end of May was not soon enough, so we are being seen on April 5th. Thank God. I was beside myself thinking I'd have to wait another 6 weeks. DH hit the roof when i told him about her attitude.
So, when we go to this appointment, would it be really wrong of me to kind of, maybe, insinuate that perhaps we should've carried on with Puregon a bit longer and perhaps there is the possibility that the traumatic epu could've damaged some eggs, hence the CRAP fert rate? Or is that really wrong? I'm just really angry about the way the cycle went and I need some answers and I don't feel that we will be given them if I don't try and point things in this direction. I really don't feel like our FS had our best interest in mind for this cycle, instead just forging ahead to get it out of the road asap. This appointment will decide whether or not we move clinics.

Happybaby-:comfort:, so so sorry hun xxx

Melissa- thats ridiculous, what a slack receptionist, lucky you can check things. I hope you get some joy from your appt, but if you don't definately change clinics.

Williever- good luck with BT and thursday, sorry you are feeling so emotional, those damn hormones!

JBM- 10 days to go now for you, hope you enjoy the 4 days in melb!

Elocin- I am in quite a bit of pain today too,esp with sitting down, do you feel better today? My clinic doesn't let you know anything between fert and transfer, I'll try and wait it out, I hope i get good fertilisation rate like you!

jayejaye- hope O comes soon, sorry people are annoying you with silly questions, its so hard xx

kass- GL for BT, jabs make me sooo tired too, its exhausting, hard to explain to poeple too x

blossom and N2L-:grouphug:

AFM- Waiting to hear from clinic re fertilisation rates. In much more pain than last time, like elocin, very sore to sit down, dosed myself up with drugs (while i can), at least I have tomorrow off from work as well. TMI warning, but I think half of it is wind pain, as it eases a bit when I pass it-sorry :tmi:
I've got heaps of things I want to do but I think i should blob on the couch a bit longer, frustrating!!!!

Awesome numbers Saffy!!! Good luck with your fertilisation rates today. I went to work this morning but only lasted half an hour, so I'm now home lying on the couch again. I had the wind problem last night too :hide:

Willi, how'd your BT go?? All good to go tomorrow?

Going to watch so mind numbing tv and lie in the air conditioning xo

Oh!! I knew I had to ask something else... how long after transfer the BT is to check for pregnancy? Is it 2 weeks?

:dance: 7 fertilised for me!! :dance:
I nearly cried when she told me, now :pray: I get some to freeze