LT TTC and Assisted Conception Mar-Apr 2012

Hi girls,

I have been stalking you all for a while... can I join in? I've been a bit reluctant as I'm not handling all this well, and I think BB might make me more obsessive if that's possible, but I've decided as I'm thinking and obsessing every minute of every day already, it can't get any worse can it??!!

My story is of PCOS and anovulation. I am extremely lucky to have a DS who is 2.5 conceived with FSH ovulation induction. This was after about a year of trying and failed clomid, but the FSH worked first go. Now we have been trying for about 12/13 months and started FSH OI about 10 months ago. I'm on cycle 7 with 3 negative, 1 cancelled, and 1 chemical pregnancy/very early miscarriage.

This cycle looks like it is going down the toilet, I am CD 18 on 50u puregon and still nothing, just lots of little follicles. They don't want to up my meds, because the last time this happened, they upped them and I ended up with lots of big follicles and had to cancel. The whole cycle took about 6/7 weeks and I was a wreck at the end, not to mention that they missed my next cycle because they didn't believe that I was having my period with some very light bleeding, so I had to wait FOREVER for another cycle. I have asked if that happens again can I switch to IVF and harvest the eggs as I don't think I can take another wasted cycle.

I have to continue over the weekend same dose and another scan on Monday.

I'm not really caught up with everyone's story but I'm hoping that everyone else is hanging in there. This is an endurance sport isn't it? I hate the WAITING!!!! I feel like my whole life is on hold. Good luck everyone xxx

Hi lyra stardust. We have similar stories. I'm doing OI using FSH injections too. I'm currently on my forth cycle (2 negative, one cancelled and in the middle of one). I too am not sure how this cycle is going to go. I have not responded this time to the 50u of puregon so every alternate day I am now taking 75. Crazy when last cycle was cancelled for too many follicles, low hormone levels and no uterine lining. Anyway, just wanted to welcome you (I'm in Perth too) and wish you all the best.

Hi girls

seems like there are a few new names in here :) welcome to all :hello:

Good luck to everyone wherever you are in your cycle. I will come back and do personals when I'm on my computer. But for now I'll be a bit selfish and update.

Been a busy week in our household. After spotting late Tuesday and a lightish AF in Wednesday Bt on Thursday confirmed the BFN :( a couple of sucky days and I think I'm okay. DH had to put his dog down this morning - had lymphoma :( and a very good friend had a workplace accident and lost fingers last night so h went to surgery today - a couple saved but basically little finger and half of middle is gone :(
thats three crappy bits of news this week - hopefully that's it for us for a while!!!

So:.... Back to the ttc stuff:.... Decided that as DH will be overseas for work in may we will do the FET this month and if no luck it's another stim cycle so win him away it's a good time to go on pill - and/or take time off to lose weight.

Spent lunch with my dad crying - funny how dads can be good at this sometimes!!! But think I'm okay. I said this last month - but again - it certainly helps having a little frozen embie as backup.

Enjoy your weekends ladies and its a good reminder that bad crap happens and we should not become complacent - look after yourselves xxx

Vic and Jane - CONGRATS ON PUPO!!! How awesome would it be if the first of the new run of BFP's was a 'natural' one - FX!!!! (And yeah, yeah - I read the look on your face but would love you both to have to eat your words! :) )

Hi new people and welcome - to steal a phrase from one of the other ladies here 'I hope your stay with us is short'.

Myturn - What a week for you and DH. I work in the health industry and am reminded every day that despite this (IVF) being my burden, I have so many things to be thankful for - your events made me grateful for the health of my bits that work and that of my family (including dog, cat etc). Glad your dad is so supportive. Yay for the frostie!!! Here's hoping he is THE ONE :)

AFM Just for a change - nothing new!! Happy Sunday everyone :)

Hi Ladies

Sorry I havent been in its been a miserable couple of days. AF still hasnt arrived and Im not sure she will, has anyone else had this happen? Our loan was also declined so now trying once more with our regular bank and if we are again unsuccessful it will be back to the drawing board for us not just in terms of IVF but we were also trying to help out my parents as dad is very ill with cancer and is struggling to pay the bills. So i have been feeling a little bah humbug so i figure i will go off the grid until things are sorted. Best of luck ladies and with any luck I'll be back soon with brighter news.

Love Beexx

Bee, - sorry to hear of your loan decline and the ill health of your father. Wishing you well over the coming weeks - I hope some options open up for you. Probably not so surprising AF being erratic with the pressure you are under. Hope will sort herself out. Thinking of you :hug:

Saffy - you have been quiet, doing OK?

LyraStardust - you are soooo not alone in your feelings of frustration at all you are going through. Make sure you take some time to be nice to yourself and forget about this, if possible! And yes, BB can be an obsession but come and go as you wish - we'll all be here in some form, wishing you well :hug:

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Hi Bee27- that really sucks about the loan, I'm so sorry that it was declined. It sounds like extra stress that you just don;t need right now., Hang in there, and I hope that your regular bank can help you out.

Keta- yes it sounds like we're doing the same thing! I think I;m still not responding so preparing myself for the worst tomorrow. It seems like I either respond nicely straight away or not at all. I hope yopu get some nice follies and can trigger soon!

Myturn- wow not much to say except sorry you've had such a crazy week and I hope things will turn around for you soon xxx It's good that you have a frostie if your DH is away so praying that is a very very sticky one.

Hi to everyone else- I;m really sorry I haven't got my head round who's who yet. But to ALL of us, boo to the waiting and fingers crossed for lots of BFP's coming up soon xxx

AFM- just quietly going crazy. I swear I think about this stuff literally EVERY second. I have some counselling booked in for april 14th so hoping that will help me step off the loony train and back into the normal world soon. I fear I am jeopardizing friendships cos deep down I can't be happy for their pregnancies and they can tell. Feel like a horrible person.

Good luck to all!

Hi Girls,

Well AF finally arrived yesterday after a 46 day cycle. My goodness... talk about getting inpatient.

So I'll call the clinic Monday. So exicited that I might be able to have FET soon. Yay!

Jane awesome, funny to celebrate AF :) goodluck!

Wooot Jane! Yay for AF finally! I know how excited you must be, I started spotting today so AF should be here for me tomorrow I hope!


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LyraS - that is why I'm on BB - I'm constantly thinking about it all the time!!!! Since I have started a second job from home in the evenings I have been less on BB, which (while I love it here!) is good for me, as it means I am not obsessing quite as much....
Still I check BB from my phone more than once a day, and am constantly reading where everyone is up to, and hoping we will all get there one day. There are some people here that I will be happier for than myself when they finally get their BFP - but every one of them is a treasure and I know mine too, will be special when it comes along....

Yay for Jane!!! 45 days would drive me barney!! Oh for the time when we can stop counting the days!!!

What a bugger Bee! It's aweful that you have to rely on a loan to get your so longed for baby. I do hope that you get your BFP nice a quick.

Ree and Joeve - nice to see you in here now... although I wish you didn't have to be!!

Hopefully the rest of you are plodding along nicely - sorry to those I've missed, as you've probably posted on the previous page, I haven't got a lot of time - I've been working tonight for a couple of hours and really need to get to sleep.

Keep your chins up ladies - one day at a time. xxx

Hi girls,

I thought i'd pop in and say hello to all of you.

DH and I have just returned home from a holiday in Bali and we have an appointment with our new FS on 3 April so it looks like ill be joining back in here in about a weeks time. I see there are lots of new people in here, goodluck and I hope your stay here is a nice and short (I mean that in a nice way of course!!!).

Financially we arent really ready to jump into a FET but I dont want money to be the reason we put it off. We still havent received the cheque back from medicare to see how much they are paying from our last cycle :rolleys: I will call them tomorrow and ask where it is.

Hope you are all well xxx

Hi girls it's going to be a me post here.
So cycle number four has been cancelled. Going to go in Wednesday so nurse can talk to Dh as to why we need ivf from here but for now I'm out of the game. I had six follicles. Argh this sucks so much. Wishing you all the best. Xxx

Keta hugs I hope your meeting with the nurse goes well x

Keta - that sucks hunni. Big hugs. Really hope things go well on Wednesday. I think it took my DH a little while to get his head around all the IVF stuff. It's a lot to process. Thinking of you both.

Amy - fantastic to hear that your holiday was great. Wow, that time seems to have flown past. I can't believe you haven't got anything back from medicare yet. Chase that hun. I got money back within about a week so you should have got it ages ago. As you said it is a lot of money to be waiting on. FET are a lot cheaper than stim cycles so perhaps is you get your refund that might help with this next step. Good luck with your appointment. Keep us posted re how you get on.

How are all you newbies going???

AFM - CD 3 today. On my way towards a FET. BT and US scheduled for 2nd April. Yay.

26 March 2012

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI or just something to happen!

Jane - CD3 US & BT 03.04.12
myturn - CD6
Planetsasha - CD12
Keta - CD15
Joeve - CD17
Kashby - C18
Nothing2lose - CD21
Saffy - CD27
Porche - CD66
Amy Jellybean - FS Appt 03.04.12

Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (stalk them here: https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...59/index5.html

SunnyV - CD27
Kritkit - CD22 - 5 day post transfer 1 x day 5 embryo BT?
Vic261 - CD23 AF due 1st April ???

Hi Ladies

You've all been a chatty bunch.

Jane - Woo Hoo for AF arriving.

Keta - I'm so sorry your cycle was cancelled. I hope your nurse has a good talk to your DH.

Bee - I'm sorry your load was declined. Hopefully your regular bank can help out. I'm sure your doing all you can for your family. What a tuff situation to be in. I think it was you who had asked about late AF??? Anyway My Af was about 14 days late before we started our IVF cycle back on 2010. I was very impatient and she was the only thing holding it up.

Amy_Jellybean - Def chase up that money. Hopefully it comes and you can use that for your FET.

Hi to everyone I've missed. I took my last BCP last night so FX AF arrives this week!

Hi beautiful girls,

Thanks for the welcome back messages. I called Medicare today and they said that the cheque was posted on Friday so I should get it today or tomorrow.

Im curious to see how our FS compares to yours. So far the bills we have received are:

$268 that our private health cover didnt cover which is basically the excess and my work pays that anyway as we are on a corporate plan.
$880 from our FS for Planning and management of patient (what a joke considering I didnt speak to her the entire cycle!), Ooctyte retrieval for assisted reproductions and transfer of embryo. From what I can gather from the item numbers and using the medicare website then I should get about $405 of this back.

Then we got a bill from the clinic which was $7555 for assisted reproduction, $810 for ICSI and $95 for semen prep (as we used frozen sperm) - When I rang medicare this morning they said we are getting a cheque for $3327. Which means we are still over $5000 out of pocket just for this portion!!!

To be honest it doesnt matter how much googling I do...the medicare safety net still confuses the crap outta me!!!

Hi Girls

AmyJB - Gosh thats awfully expensive. I must admit my clinic in one of the cheapest of SA. For a stim I have to pay $3100 to my FS, then $285 for hospital bed, $175 for aneasthetist, $250 if any are frozen. I get back $1555 back on medicare from FS on the first cycle per calander year then $2330 back for subsequent stims. Out of pocket $1545 (FS), hospital bed $285, $45 for aneasthetist, $250 frozen storage. Total = $2125, but the subesequent ones are $1100.00 out of pocket. For a frozen cycle we have to come up with $1250 but get back $680 so out of pocket is $570.00. I know from others that everyone elses is really expensive too.

Porsche - FX AF comes soon x

Jane - Good luck with your BT & US on the 3rd.

Keta - So sorry hunni that your cycle was cancelled. My DH was like a deer in a headlight when our FS said IVF was pretty much the only way to go. He has come around though, so FX your DH will too.

Bee - So sorry about your loan and about all the struggles that your dealing with. You must feel very overwhelmed :hug: We are all here if you need. Life can certainly be very trying at times :(

myturn - Congrats on going again. I know you were thinking about taking time off to get buff :)

AFM - Well DH came home in a foul mood Friday night from working away all week and it pretty much kept going until this morning but now I am the one in a foul mood. He is hating life in general at the moment. Hates work. Hates that we are still not pregnant. Pretty much just hates everything at the moment.

We are considering buying a business. Just a small gardening one, and we have yet to see the bank, but this all means that IVF will be put on the back burner. I have to support him in this as the way he is now, there is no point in bringing a child into his unhappiness. So, I figure we get him happy and go from there. I have five snowbubs that will just have to stay on ice a bit longer. I am pretty sad to give it up for now, but we can still try naturally. My sister in law was saying on the weekend she is having a big clean out and has soooo much stuff for me. Cots, car seats, high chair etc. I almost burst into tears.

I know I am in the TWW, but have no symptoms. Nothing. AF is due on the weekend, and we were going to go into another FET, but now thats been put on hold. All I can say is the bank had better give us the money asap so we can get back to it. I will hang around till AF arrives, then will bow out for a while. Any offers to take over the list?

Hi Everyone!

Keta- oh I'm so sorry that sucks! It's just so frustrating. I'm glad that you have an appointment soon so can try and make a plan and have something to focus on, I find that makes things a bit easier.

Kashby and myturn- thanks for giving me permission to be an obsessive looney tune! lol I find that when I's busier it's easier too- I'm actually putting off an assignment so that I'll have to do that next week when I think I might be going even crazier.

Amy-jellybean- wow my jaw hit the floor with those costs. I thought it was less than that so I definitely need to quiz my clinic on their IVF costs in case we go down that route. I really hope your check arrives soon and that you get to do your FET soon. Don;t forget you can put medical expenses over a certain amount (not sure how much but maybe 1500??) on your tax return and get some tax back on them at least. Not a huge amount but definitely worth doing. We don't get any back for OI so am saving all my receipts for tax time.

Jane- very exciting, here's hoping the time goes quickly for you and you will have a great outcome x

Vic261- wow it sounds like you have exciting plans for the business, but I'm sorry that it means that the IVF has to be put on hold. I hope you get a natural miracle, but if not that you are able to be back soon.

sorry I know I've missed lots, but I'll be back soon! Thank you for the welcomes!!

AFM- well scan today wasn't amazing, but definitely could have been worse. I have 1 x1.4 follicle and 3 X 1.1, but my lining was better. So they are still worried about having to cancel if all 4 grow, but hoping that the 1.4 will take over and grow and grow. I'm waiting for bloods and then they'll make a plan. So I'm cautiously optimistic.

Amy - I'm at an expensive clinic too. My total costs for my ICSI cycle were around 9100 and I got back around 5400. So out of pocket close to 4000. Oh..... plus 785 more for freezing my little embies. But I think FET is much cheaper. It costs closer to 3500 and I think I should get back around 1700. So out of pocket more like 1500. Much better. :) This is a crazy expensive venture. We just keep borrowing more against the home loan. It drives me crazy when all my friends with kids complain about us being DINK - double income no kids - like we are some how rolling in money - but they don't know about our IVF battle nor just how much it and other surgeries I've required have cost us. Sorry for the rant. Glad that you are getting some money back soon Amy.

Vic - so sorry that things are so tough at the moment. Really hoping you DH feels more upbeat soon. I can completely relate, my DH has been struggling lately with this whole TTC. He seems depressed but at least hasn't pulled the pin on this cycle yet. I am so scared about what will happen if this cycle fails - I think we will both fall apart. I know that is a reality that you have faced a few times already. I'm so sorry for that pain. You are truely amazing. A very strong woman. Your DH is a lucky man to have you by his side. Just to know that you would put everything on hold him to back him 100%. If there is anything we can do to support you.

Lyra stardust - really hopeful they dont cancel your cycle. I'm guess those follie numbers are in cms not mms. Sounds like they are getting there. What kind of cycle are you having (sorry I can't remember)?

Oh Vic I really hope things work themselves out. I think you are doing the right thing, get your DH back I track and coming back to TTC when you are both in a better frame of mind although I know how hard It is to just switch that want off. I wish you all the very best.


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Hugs Vic that's a really big decision to make. You do need your partner to be happy and so I guess if you can get that it will help in the long run.
I am desperate to get off this stupid pill I have had light bleeding since AF finished I just hate it. I called up and got my AMH results today which I was worried about but they are ok so onwards we go.

Hi Ladies

Sorry to hear of your struggles Vic but i think lifes too short to be unhappy in your work especially considering how long we spend there each day. Im sure you will make the best decision for you and DH, we will be thinking of you xx.

AmyJB im in Perth too and the stim cycle i did in 2008 cost us $10000 thankfully we got pregnant but pretty much everything we got back went on an obstetrician. My FET/HRT is costing us just over $4000 and we only get about $1500 back.

Hi to everyone else still waiting around for things to happen like me its so very frustrating.
AFM- I rang my clinic today as i am now 7 days post progesterone with no AF, they told me to give it until the end of Day 10 then call again. I have been very grumpy and crampy so she better be on her way. We should have our answer from ANZ on wednesday FX its a better result otherwise like Vic we will be leaving our bubs frozen for a little while longer.

Hi Everyone!

Amy, I am in Perth too - IVF stim cycles through my clinic with icsi work out to nearly 10k. I know fertility north is very reasonably priced but its hard to get into. I called last month and my appointment isn't till May. That's why I went back to our original clinic for FET.

Vic, :hug: I hope things settle down and go your way soon!

Lyra, :crossfingers: for you

AFM - progesterone levels came back super low at 27, so they have bumped me up to 500mg progesterone pessaries 4 x a day, ironically the cramping has subsided - so not necessarily my body reacting to it, instead not having enough of it. Hoping its been caught in time for the embie to stick. Final HCG blood test is on the 5th.. damn freaking ages away!

Amyjb I should be PMing this to you but it won't go through! Grrrr

My IVF cycle the bill from our shared clinic was $6,957 total. This didn't include the hospital bit that was sent direct to HBF (they paid the account in full).

So I sent the invoice for $6,957 to Medicare and received back a cheque for $2,953 - meaning we were $4,004 out of pocket. I paid the $4,004 to concept and got a receipt - then I posted the original invoice and receipt back to Medicare (to prove I had paid the account) and in doing this (paying the account) I hit the safety net - I finally get it!!! I had no idea what I was goingto hear next - but was pleasantly surprised to receive back a further $1,580 from Medicare because I had hit the safety net but paying the $4,004 out of pocket to concept.

So I ended up being a total of $2,420 out of pocket for IVF cycle one (I didn't have ICSI). This was about what I had expected.

My FET cost $3,200 not including hospital which again was sent to HBF and they settled in full. My FET fee was higher than normal because it included a $750 fee because I chose to thaw 3 x 3 day embryos and take them to day 5 blasts. One was transferred, one didn't make it and the third was refrozen (refreeze was part of the $750 fee). Also I had a one off storage fee of $500 never figured that out but vaguely remember it being explained so I've never followed it up. The actual FET itself was $1,870 - and then there must of been another couple ofhundred dollars for something else.

Haven't received anything from Medicare yet for FET so can't tell you what the refund component is. I can tell you that I didn't receive an invoice for the FET until 6 weeks post transfer:) which kind of helped! Also I think you'll find your rebate for FET higher because you have hit the safety net already with your ICSI cycle in this calendar year (safety net starts again on January 1st each year.

Key tip - don't forget to resend your invoice and receipt back to Medicare a second time - after you have paid the gap from your cycle - to concept! Otherwise you'll miss out on the second rebate after you've hit the gap!

Xxx

TTL - Thanks for your interesting post. If I pay $3100 for a stim cycle and get back $1570 from medicare leaving me $1530 out of pocket, do I take that back to medicare for a second rebate since I have hit the safety net? Congratulations also on your embie dividing and now expecting twins. I wish you a safe an healthy pregnancy.

Thanks to all you lovely girls in here. Your support has been great. I have been thinking about fostering and as my step sister works with foster kids have been asking her questions. I know it will not be the same, but I dont want to go through life not having kids run around my house, opening pressies christmas day, doing easter egg hunts, and all the school stuff and I figure if I cant get pregnant as I am too old, why should us and a child miss out on all of that. It takes six months to register in SA, so may think about that down the track. DH is open to it, so we may not be childless for ever :)

27 March 2012

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI or just something to happen!

Jane - CD4 US & BT 03.04.12
myturn - CD7
Planetsasha - CD13
Keta - CD16
Joeve - CD18
Kashby - C19
Nothing2lose - CD22
Saffy - CD28
Porche - CD67
Amy Jellybean - FS Appt 03.04.12

Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (stalk them here: https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...59/index6.html

SunnyV - CD28
Kritkit - CD23 - 6 day post transfer 1 x day 5 embryo BT?
Vic261 - CD24 AF due 1st April ???

Ttl your an absolute gem!!! Thanks for that info!!! The penny has just dropped, I took my receipts back into Medicare last time and got another $1500ish back and couldn't understand why and now I get it!

My inbox might be full, I'll jump in and clear it now, otherwise just email me and we can sort out thurs xxx

Hi ladies, well AF finally arrived after a very long 40 days, yay, so I am off to my clinic tomorrow to pick up my meds ad start jabbing. I'm feeling really excited about it all now. I'm still really scared of the retrieval but am trying to keep that to the back of my
mind for now and just enjoy this for what it is (or may be).


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28 March 2012

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI or just something to happen!

Mrs Mac - CD 2
Ree*Ree - CD3
Jane - CD5 US & BT 03.04.12
myturn - CD8
Planetsasha - CD14
Keta - CD17
Joeve - CD19
Kashby - C20
Nothing2lose - CD21
Saffy - CD29
Porche - CD68
Amy Jellybean - FS Appt 03.04.12

Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (stalk them here: https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...59/index6.html

SunnyV - CD29
Kritkit - CD24 - 7 day post transfer 1 x day 3 embryo BT 05.04.12
Vic261 - CD25 AF due 1st April ???

Hi Vic, sorry it was a 3 day embie and BT is on the 5th! ... I POS this morning BFN, I dunno if its too early.... only 7 days post transfer?

Morning ladies!

Woohoo for AF Mrs Mac! Now we're only 1 day apart :) I had my first injection this morning, was a bit underwhelming, lol! I haven't thought much about the pick-up just yet, I'll worry once it gets a bit closer I guess :/

Vic, sending you more :hug: The business venture sounds exciting, but I'm sorry it means IVF will be put on hold for a bit. I think fostering is an amazing thing to be able to do

Krikkit I hope the new pessary dose does the trick! :crossfingers:

Bee27 I hope it's good news from ANZ today!

Joeve I so hope your bleeding has/is about to stop! Good news about your AMH levels

Lyra my fingers are crossed that the one big follicle is growing nicely for you

AFM I am CD3 today. Been taking the prednisolone since yesterday, and did my first Gonal F injection this morning. Was feeling like I might chicken out while holding the needle, but I actually didn't even feel it go in! Phew! Now to wait and see if I have any delightful side-effects... I go in Saturday morning for the first bloods and scan to see how things are shaping up :crossfingers:

Ree yay for not feeling the needle that makes me feel better!! Although you might be much tougher than most :)
Hope everyone is having a lovely hump day!

Ree - :clap: Well done on your 1st injection. Its not so bad is it. I find it quite empowering. Thanks for the hugs. I am surprised that your going in so early for bloods and scan. I am usually CD9 when they check me, but I guess everyone is different. I have added you to the list too :)

Kritkit - Have updated the list :) Could be too early yet. The waiting is the worst :(

Mrs Mac - Well done on AF arriving. The pick up is not so bad and there are a lot of us in here if you have any questions who can help you out. I was really nervous last time and by blood pressure was through the roof so I had to really calm down.

Hi to everyone else.

AFM - Well the business may just go ahead :) We are in talks with our bank and have spoken to our accountant and there is a glimmer of hope. Which would be awesome as DH will be happy and we will be able to get back to IVF in a few months maybe, depending on cash flow, as this business will take pretty much all our savings. I have been working out at the local gym and starting to feel better in myself. I used to do it years ago and have forgotten how strong I can feel. I think its good to feel strong on the outside as we sure do need it on the inside.

Yay Vic.
Just a quick question as I really have no idea about all this. I just spoke to the clinic nurse and she has advised me that my fs had just sent her a change in my protocol which means now I am doing sniffing first which is different to what he originally planned. Could this be related to my AMH results? I have googled dear dr google to find out the difference but I know you ladies know more than that dr ;)

Hi Joeve

Not sure on that one, I haven't had to sniff, but there are ladies in here who have. I am sure one of them can help you.

Hi all,

Joeve- sorry can't help with that as I haven't had to sniff either.

Vic- sounds like things are moving on with the business so I hope things work out for you. I too have just started going to the gym and am feeling the positive results already, it's so good for your head isn't it?? Can you please add me to the list if you get the chance? I am CD 23 on FSH OI cycle and waiting for trigger

Krikkit- sounds like you are like me, I am a POAS addict! I think 7 days is pretty early so fingers crossed it changes to a BFP!

Ree ree- so glad things are moving along for you and hope you get good news for your scan! fx

Hi to everyone else!

AFM- ok so you may remember I had 1 at 14mm (sorry yes I said 1.4 before because I tend to think of them in cm, purely because it blows me away how BIG they are- 2cm for a mature follie is BIG- no wonder they are sore. In mm it doesnt sound so impressive in my crazy head :)), and then 3 at 11. Also my oestrogen had fallen :( only 230.

So today after another 48 hours of puregon (and much hand wringing and nail biting) it was... wait for it... don't fall of your seats now... 15. WHAT? 1 measly mm. Why is it not growing?? BUT the others looked the same size so I am happy that we are not cancelling yet, but I am still nervous. This cycle just doesn't feel right to me. Am very scared for my oestrogen result this avo. Will probably have to have another scan on fri and just keep praying. Mentally I am feeling a bit stronger than a few days ago, maybe because of the gym. So looking forward to that counselling session though, I wish I'd booked it in earlier.

So here's good wishes and vibes to you all. Be kind to yourselves :)

Mrs Mac - Congrats on AF arriving. I just had a 45/46 day cycle so really understand the frustration of having to wait for AF to start the next IVF round.

Krikkit - Really hoping that things change in the next week. I have no idea how early is too early to test but waiting is so damn hard. Thinking for you and hoping for a BFP.

ReeRee - Congrats on starting the injections. I actually quite enjoyed that stage of the treatment as odd as that probably sounds. As Vic says it is empowering. A sense that you can and are doing something to change your own situation. Hope the rest of the injections continue painlessly.

Vic - things sound really positive about the business and the future for you guys. Its awesome that you are doing something for yourself to and heading to the gym.

Joeve - sorry I haven't had to sniff anything before so dont know much about that protocol

Lyra stardust - really hoping that your follies grow some more in the coming days and you can go ahead with this cycle. It is so frustrating when our bodies just don't do what they are supposed to. Glad you are feeling stronger. I find the gym keeps me sane too. Let me know what you think of the counselling. I know every counsellor will be different but have been wondering whether its worth me going to talk to someone. This journey is just hard sometimes. And if it wasn't for all you girls it would be as lonely as hell too.

AFM - not much happening for me. Waiting for BT and US on 2nd April. Been feeling lonely and isolated from my friends lately. None know about our IVF journey and all seem too caught up in their own lives and families and babies to spend anytime with us. Maybe they are finding me difficult to be around. Moody and stuff. I don't know. All I know is some friendly distraction would be nice but I'm tired of friends cancelling on me because they are pregnant and tired or trying (badly) to hide they are pregnant again by avoiding seeing people. Have I gone crazy. I think I need a reality check.

Hi ladies

Well the good news is AF arrived the bad news is the bank hasn't come to the party so again Im bowing out of this thread for another 3 months while we minimise debt. Hopefully be back in July, DH and i are just going to focus on what we do have. All the best to you all FX your not in here when i return xx