LT TTC & Assisted Conception May-June 2010

Thanks ladies, really appreciate all your support and wishes - hugs

A few of you have EPU's and stuff coming up - hoping those eggies are growing nicely and i'll be thinking of you all with FX and TX, GL

Arielle ~ Hi and welcome. Wishing you all the best for number 2, GL!

AFM ~ Not feeling as confident - still getting some tummy pain but the extra CM has disappeared. And have been a bit :'( because we have no money due to 2 many bills and debts and just feel like nothing is really going our way. For quite a while now. If we could just sell this bloody tractor our lives would be a whole lot better. Sorry for the negativity, I know you guys understand though. xoxo

Group hugs and babydust!!

OMG ladies I don't log on for the weekend and it seems like I've missed heaps and I'm sure I'm going to miss someone as I try to update so please forgive me

Lisa I don't usually feeling anything happening in there until I'm getting closure to ovulation and then I know something is happening its a bit similar to AF pains etc so your fine

Arielle welcome to our little group hope your stay in here is short and sweet I mean that in a nice way

Trueblue fingercrossed that all those symptoms you are having lead to a BFP for you

Kaybee ramble all you like we totally undertsand what you are going through. I too sometimes cannot face family functions etc especially after I have had another set back. As for your question on the asprin its to thin my blood and reduce white blood cells this will only be the second time I've used it they seem to think after all the tests I've done that I might not hold the embryo due to clotting.

AFM did my trigger and now just waiting for tomorrow and my FET then I guess I'll be back on the TWW rollercoaster hopefully for the last time

Loops I am a serial POASer also I just can't resist like this morning I did one and about an hr later I saw the faintest line on an agle squinting so I did another still BFN. Don't know what I was expecting.

Lisa I am unsure having not got up to the stage your at how one normally feels. I have read others reporting not feeling much happening at that stage so I am sure it is normal but some of the others will have a better answer then me.

Arielle best of luck with your FET. Hope it brings you your next BFP and baby.

True I was hungry alot with my last pregnancies I think its a good sign. Hope its a BFP for you. Your so good not POAS I think I would have by now. Don't know how I'll resist actually when I get there.

Me just waiting for AF its a day or two away. Wishing my appointment was now not a month away I just want to get started now. I guess I should be trying to get my body in better shape over the next month give me something positive to work towards.

Terry sticky vibes and baby dust for your FET. And loops hope its a BFP when you test again and no AF.

lol mildez hopefully lol I think the only reason I haven't poas is because of the pregnyl boosters will give me a false positive dh and I did laugh and think we should to one just to prove that that second line is not a myth lol... am still having lots of symptoms but just starting to feel negative about it I think because we have never had a bfp... three days seems so long away I pity you gilrs just starting your tww

Terry ~ Good luck with the transfer hun and see you ove in TWW for maybe a day or so. FX you have good transfer.

Mildez ~ Hope AF doesnt come and your are in fact pregnant! GL with the health regime and I hope next month comes round quick.

True ~ I posted to you in TWW thread, still have FX for you chciky. Hope AF stays away xo

AFM ~ CM has come back and getting some weird tummy pain again, FX but not holding my breath because Im still being quite negative LOL

Hi Ladies,

It's been a while for me since I last visited- I'm sorry to say that it all got too much. I felt demoralised with every sad story and unsuccessful attempt and decided to opt out for a while.

Anyway, I'm back and looking forward to sharing the good and the bad that is this TTC monster!!

My story so far is that after 3 years of TTC without success I was finally referred to a FS last year. As I'm healthy, ovulate normally and our only possible issue is my endo the FS thought that we should go straight to IVF. The stim cycle went smoothly with 6 embryos the result. The first one was transferred in October, the second in January and then we had two transferred in February, all without success.

In the mean time, my husband was offered his dream job so we moved back to NSW and after a couple of months a went off to a new FS. My new doctor thought that Clomid was worth a try so we are giving that a go for a few cycles. If that is still unsuccessful, we will transfer our two remaining embryos and then have another go at a stim cycle after that.

Our second attempt with Clomid has just failed- cruelly, AF arrived last night (along with the most horrific pain) on day 31. As my cycles are usually 27-28 days I was starting to think it may have finally been my turn, but as usual- no. I had been really good to avoid the temptation to POAS- my deal with myself was that if I got to 32 days I would do it. At this stage I think I just wanted to enjoy the possibility of pregnancy!

So that's where I'm at! I hope everyone is doing as well as possible and that there is lots of success for us all soon.

Best,

M.

Evening everyone,

Meg - welcome back. Sorry about your BFN. I know what you mean about HPTs ruining that possibility.

Loops - stay strong. I'm hoping it all ends in a BFP. :hug: I hope you get a buyer really soon for the tractor. It's not fair that IVF is so expensive.

Trueblue - the final days must be so frustrating, hang in there. GL with your comp. I just SATC2 as well, loved it.

Mildez - I know a month must seem like forever away. Hopefully you won't need the appointment and to board the IVF rollercoaster.

Terry - thanks for you reassurance hun. Wishing you sticky vibes for tomorrow. If all goes well with me I will join you at the tail end of your TWW.

Arielle - welcome. Hopefully this will be the last transfer.

Yogi - sorry I don't know too much about AMH, but I agree there always seems to be something to worry about.

Trea - GL with your transfer...with any luck 10 will be magic for you.

LMM - thanks for sharing how the after affects of EPU feel. I feel so much better. I just remember waking up from the lap and all I could say was "I'm in pain". I hope you have a great number of juicy follies on Tuesday and yay about the easy run on the roads. I do aerobics as well so will be interesting to see how I feel when exercising. I"m sure I will find it strangely reassuring to feel the little eggs. I might just check with my FS that aerobics is okay.

Kaybee - GL with your scan!

AFM: have my first scan since being on gonal tomorrow. Crossing my fingers that I'm developing a reasonable number of follicles and my dose is working.

Meg, welcome back. I hope the clomid does the trick. I just wanted to share my experience with endo since you said it was your "only possible issue". Have you had a lap to check for it? I asked our first FS about checking for endo several times and he refused each time. We did 6 IUI, 4 IVF and 1 FET with that FS and all of them were BFN. We changed to a new FS in February and the first thing he did was book me in for a lap (I finally had a doctor take my classic endo symptoms seriously). When he did the lap in March he discovered I had stage III endo and removed what he could. We did our first IVF with him in May and I'm still astounded beyond belief that it worked. If your FS actually suspects you have endo, I highly recommend getting a lap done and having it removed. In our case I honestly believe it was the cause of all our BFNs and 3 years of heartache. From what I've been told, it was also most likely the cause of our m/c last year. Endo can affect both egg quality (in my case one of my ovaries was completely covered by it) and the uterine environment.

GL to everyone heading to EPU and those in the 2ww. :luck:

Loops, I'm still sending you tractor selling vibes. ;)

Hey ladies,

How are you all going?

Trueblue:

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It's funny how one tiny comment by a professional has us in a tail spin but we can't help but think the worst...

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Was SATC2 as good as the first? Looking forward to seeing it.
I bet you are anxious sending :goodluck: your way.

Arielle: Welcome! Don't mind you joining in at all! The more the merrier.
Hoping your next FET goes well for you and this is the one and you come out with a :bfp:.

Lisa B: Sorry I can't help you out with that one but I hope the tightening feeling eases up.
Good luck with your scan tomorrow :)

Loops: Hang in there, things will start looking up for you soon and everything will go your way, "Positive thoughts", we are all here for you and understand :grouphug:

Terry:

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OMG ladies I don't log on for the weekend and it seems like I've missed heaps and I'm sure I'm going to miss someone as I try to update so please forgive me

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^^ I know what you mean!
HOPING and FINGERSCROSSED this is the one!

Mildez: The next month will hopefully go quickish for you, best of luck with it :)

Meg: Welcome back! Good luck with the Clomid and hopefully it will bring you a positive result.

Juniper:

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Loops, I'm still sending you tractor selling vibes.

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Hi all,

Trea - sounds like our FETs will be on the same day, or close to it - I'm only putting one in though - talk to you more when it gets closer (hurry up!)

Yogi - sorry, I don't know anything about FSH so can't offer any rambling wisdom. I wish people like that nurse knew how much their little throw away comments can dig right in and hurt.

Trueblue - when I got my BFP a few months ago the first thing I did was POAS to see if there really was a second line on those damn things. You'll get to see your own little blue line in a few days FX

Arielle - when I read your history it sounded like you had just copy-pasted mine. We're the same age too. GL!

Lisa - GL with your scan on Tuesday. It's been so long since I've done a full IVF cycle that I can't remember what my ovaries felt like.

Loops - really hoping things start looking up for you. Tractor selling vibes your way! Have you POAS again yet?

Terry - thanks for the aspirin info. Clotting was one thing I was going to talk to FS about on Thursday. Hope FET goes very smoothly - let us know

Mildez - lt would be unreal if AF never came - about time we had a BFP in here! GL FX

Meg - so sorry about your painful af. Whenever I'm strong and resist POAS I do exactly the same thing - start getting excited inside (all the while telling myself not to) and interpreting every pain or sensation as pregnancy and then AF rears her unwelcome ugly head. Now for that IVF ride - Good luck

AFM - nothing new, just love the reassurance BB gives in not feeling alone in this

Oh boy, I just somehow lost a long post...poo!! ...I'll try again!
Arielle- welcome!! hopefully your stay is very short and extremely sweet!
Trueblue- goodgoodgood luck, what a nervous week!
Lisa- try not to over-analyse your body right now. With all that extra FSH, your body's hopefully brewing a bundle of eggs!...and you'll start feeling those ovaries as they start to swell!!
Yogi Bear- very interesting reading your results. Especially as my egg donor's AMH was 9.3. What ranges of normal were you given? I was told between 10-20 was normal, but i've read other ranges??! Were thet fibbing a bit?
AFM- I've had the strangest week!! I thought I was pregnant! I've only been pg once and it felt exactly the same. I did a pg test (actually 4 over 4 days!) and all positive with very light but definate pink lines. Not expecting the best, I did a blood test at work (I work in a hosp as a midwife) in anticipation of watching the levels fall over the next week or so. But the test was negative...no HCG in my blood! I was very suprised...I would have sworn! (kinda sad too)
That was Wednesday. On Sunday my identical twin sister rang...she's pg! (she's fallen pg 4 times before, all with a sad end). And everytime, my body's reacted and I've known before she has! Freaky, especially the 1st time...when I was engaged (she was married) and I thought it was me that was pregnant!!...then when we found out her test, we thought it was both of us, that's how definate the symptoms were!!!! I promise I'm not even exaggerating.
I do hope for the best for her (but sadly after all this time and bad history) expecting the worst. It's so odd for me, as I'm close to starting my 1st donor egg cycle, hopefully in August!! yah!

Evening everyone,

I had my scan & bt today & I have around 8 - 10 little eggies that all look like they should be ripe. I'm now trying to stay awake as I have to trigger tonight at 10:00pm, I'm usually in bed by 08:30!! So for me, pick up is on Wed morning. We are going to try something a little different this time round & transfer two day 3 embies. So if everything goes according to plan, we should have transfer lined up for saturday.

I'm not sure who mentioned it but I take this process one day at a time. So, first making sure we get the eggs, then they fertalise, then the transfer so many little mile stones we need to reach in this ivf process!!

Sevie - how amazing, good luck to both you & your sister

Lisa - Good luck tomorrow with your first scan. I had my first last thursday which was six days of taking drugs & only had one egg at 1.5 with about ten eggs at 1.0. So in only four days that all grown up & now i'm ready to trigger.

Wishing everyone the best

Littlemissmoo - great news on 8-10 follicles Way to go girl!! All the best for epu on wed, will be thinking of you

Sevie - wow, how freaky about your twin and you!! I have heard stories like that about identical twins. I'm sad that it was a neg test for you, but also hope all goes ok with your sister, sounds like she has had a really hard time too with 4 m/c. As for the AMH i had it done through repromed in SA and they say under 14pmol/L have reduced chance of ivf success and increased m/c chance. It also has a chart for ages and mine seems to fit into the "normal" range for my age, JUST. Heres the link: http://www.repromed.com.au/custom/fi...s%203.4.09.pdf
Roll on August i say for your donor cycle!!:)

Lisa - GL today with the scan, hope to hear you have lots of nice plump follicles waiting for mamma!

Hi Meg - sorry to hear you have had such a long bumpy road (like a lot of us here unfortunately) and i totally relate to wanting to "opt out" of the whole TTC/IVF circus!! so are you going to be starting up a full ivf cycle now?

MiniMe - how are you going? any twinges? When is your bt?

Terry - are you having transfer today? i am not sure what everyone is up to, keep losing track sorry!

Loops - are you going to poas? i hope you get a surprise BFP!! and hope you sell the tractor too.

I know i've missed to many of you again, i'm hopeless at remembering everything :redface: sorry
Still jabbin for me and first scan is on friday. its always a bit nerve-wracking that first scan, as i dont respond well at all (only get a few eggs). I always fear that i'll go in and find NO follicles at all. Anyway...one step at a time eh!

See ya later chickadees :D

Thanks for the welcome back messages ladies- you're all lovely!

Juniper- Firstly, my most heartfelt congratulations. I'm so thrilled for you. xx Thank you for your thoughts on the endo. I have had it confirmed through a lap- after 18 years of excruciating periods that no doctor was interested in, the first thing the FS did was have a look. He confirmed the endo but at that stage (April 09) it was dormant, however there was lots of scar tissue including some that was sticking my otherwise healthy ovaries down. His opinion was to give IVF a go first as he is very cautious about messing around with those delicate bits prior to a woman having at least one child. Our plan was to do 3 transfer attempts then have the surgery if we were still unsuccessful. As it turned out, my last transfer was done just before we left Cairns so I'm no longer seeing him. I had in my head that I wanted to have the surgery before doing anything else, certainly before transferring our last two precious embryos. On reviewing my file and the photos from the lap, the new FS in Wollongong (who everybody raves about) didn't think that the scar tissue was in an area that would prevent pregnancy. So the new plan is that we will have another 2 or 3 Clomid cycles, then transfer the last two embryos and if need be, do another full stim cycle. I think if it gets to that I will have the surgery before another full cycle. You know what would be great? If this damn Clomid would work and I could just get on with my life!!

Thanks again for taking the time to comment on this. xx

Yogi Bear- Sorry Honey, I just saw your question. We still have two embryos frozen from the last IVF stim cycle but as I didn't do Clomid at all with my first FS, the new one wanted me to try it for 4 or so months. So I will do that for another 2 months and if it's still unsuccessful we will transfer the last two embryos. Failing that we will do another full IVF cycle. Fun, huh!? xxx

Ladies - wow it's SOOO busy in here!! Sorry I have been MIA and no persies today as I am really sick with what is hopefully just a cold. Have my ET tomorrow and hoping than the hideous 2WW goes quickly. Hopefully be back to normal soon but thinking of you ladies and hoping to see some BFP's in here very soon!! xxx

Hi Lovely Ladies
Firstly thank you so much for the tractor selling wishes and vibes, makes me feel so much better. I was pretty upset about everything last night. You ladies are the ones that keep me going and sane, thanks so much! Im at CD28, 14DPO and havent re-tested since my BFN on 10DPO. Normally my cycles are about 30-35days and usually I get AF on a Sunday so going by my dates most likely this Sun if Im going to get it. But then again I normally have very long cycles after IVF and with everything thats happened to my body of late I wouldnt be surprised if she were late again anyway. Although I did def O around Day 14 so nothing really makes sense. So to cut a long story short LOL, think I'll try and hold off on testing again until at least Saturday. Plus I dont have the money at the moment to buy tests anyway - which is probably a good thing in that regard

Meg ~ Hi and :welcome: back. Sorry about all your BFN's. Sounds like you and the new FS have set the plans and all sounds wise to me. I like your idea of making a pact with yourself to not test until CD32, I might have to give it a go :lol: Wishing you all the very best, FX the clomid works and you dont have to keep doing IVF etc. GL

Juniper ~ thanks hunni, hope everything is still going well with you 3 :)

DreamsintoReality ~ thanks so much for the hugs and your care and understanding, xo. How are you going. Hugs back!

Kaybee ~ thanks so much hun. Hope you are well and great to have you in here.

Sevie ~ woh that's freaky about you and your sis. Sorry you guys both have to go through that much disappointment. Hope everything works out for your sis this time and I hope it will be your turn very soon for a BFP!

Littlemissmoo ~ 8 - 10 that is excellent, hope they keep growing nicely and wishing you all the very best for Sat, GL!

Yogi Bear ~ thanks hun xo. All the best for your 1st scan on Fri, FX you have lots of nice follies there growing.

Lairdoz ~ All the best for your transfer hun, will be thinking of you with FX everything goes well and a positive result after the TWW. GL xoxo