minniemouse, the baby is perfect, she's beautiful. 4 hour labour and no stitches! I had a few tiny tiny pains today but that's it, it doesn't look promising.

M2OSB, can you still get a day21 BT to confirm that you ovulated? Yes I am really sick of ttc. All it has caused is fighting and heartache. Dh and I have hardly BD because all we have done is fight and all he has done is drink No O signs either so I don't know whats going on there.

We really do need something to lift our spirits! but I don't think there's many left in here anymore.