GOOD LUCK DIDGE!!!
Suzy - I've updated your details for you :)
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GOOD LUCK DIDGE!!!
Suzy - I've updated your details for you :)
Didge, hope your ET goes well & it is the first BFP for 2006, what a way to start the year!
Suzy, that sounds like a good idea for your dog. Our ashes went in the ocean where they loved to play.
Good luck to the up & coming tests.
Have a good Christmas & New Year
And best of luck.
Hi there,
I thought I'd give an update on ET. I was surprised, out of 4 eggs retrieved, 3 made it to embies - I gave my Dr a high five I was so happy! And apparently they are all excellent quality and at 8 cells....could've knocked me down with a feather. My DH was feeling nauseas in the waiting room, needed a glass of water, poor thing has been pretty stressed these past couple of days.
So we now have 2 on board and one in the freezer! How cool.
Thank you guys for your kind thoughts as well.
Cheers!
Didge :)
DIDGE: It is good you got the doctor you are happy with, that is a good start. I have on average 2-4 eggs left at transfer. My fingers are x’d for you that your frantic days will be over for 9 months. Thank you & hope the same for you and your DH a lovely xmas. (I will be able to have couple drinks with DH-Woo Hoo).
MELBO: True, its amazing how we all have one thing in common and then conversations turn to something else and we can all relate to each other on different things.. I think that’s great. TY for filling me in on “Sticky Vibesâ€. I am so with you when you say you wish they’d just say “I’m Sorry†and leave it at that.
TRISH: Thank you for your reply. Hope you doing well. Thank you for your thoughts on baby trail, your heart is always in the right place.
SUZY: That is so nice way to say goodbye to your dog. I hope that helps you heal your pain. Its not easy keeping up with posts. I have trouble and I have been on here around late July and still trying to catch up.. Having to know whose Arthur or Marthur is not easy.
TAM & MEL: Hoping you are both well.
SUGGESTION: I dont know if any of you seem to loose your posts after you submit, but i do. What I do is pre type on word doc, what i want to put on post and cut n post from word processor that way you dont have to re type it all again. IYKWIM.
To all a good day.
Chris
CONGRATS DIDGE! That's great news!!!!
Chris - you may be losing your posts due to debug errors that have cropped up lately - that might be why you've had some problems?
AHHHHHHHH. Not happy Jan Guess what IVF people have just told me. No can book on for Jan transfer too early as 1st one is only 9th Jan. ](*,) I have to wait for Jan AF to book on for Feb. But wait there's more nurse just rang back to check to see if FET's don't work if we will be wanting to stim again as very very very long waiting list for 06. She will email Dr and ask him to prebook us in case. So am peeved at no go in Jan as I specifically asked about bloods etc over new years but alas my body gave me AF a week too soon. Stupid Stupid Body. So she also advised lots of BDing over new years and hope for a 29 day cycle again and an imaculate new year conception which of course I laughed at but hubby liked.
So mods can you yet again change my transfer on front page from Jan to Feb and also change important dates to say Perfect Baby Making Time NYE 05 :rolleyes:
Ladies I shall pop in occasionally but I think shall not see much of me until Jan. Good Luck to all.
Chele
I am so sorry for your disappointing news about FET being delayed to FEB- I have that SA clinic are very very busy for stim cycles so maybe she is doing you a favour. I guess they don't want us to be too positive or worst even more disappointment if they can't fit you in
Congratulations Didge on your two little ones on board =D>
Hi guys thought I would pop in to say hello and catch up on whats happening with all you wonderful ladies.
Boy there is a few new ones here so I will just say a big hello and welcome to you all.
Didge good luck with the 2 little embies on board I hope you get a great new year pressie.
Chris I hope you are well, have a good xmas and good luck for 06
Hello to everyone else, sorry I have been missing for a while but I just needed sometime to work through the dissappointment of the last cycle.
I tried to keep it togethor for so long after the BFN which is very hard when you are delivering babies everyday, but I finally had a big meltdown on Friday, my husband and I went to the beach and it must have been the sea air but I finally had a good cry and told him how I was feeling, the poor darling hasnt seen me much over the last couple of weeks due to us both doing shift work so this was the first time we have really been able to talk.
He said that we could try another stimulated cycle next year if I wanted but Im not sure if I can keep going on the IVF rollarcoaster, I am thinking maybe it is my turn to get off. I have not made the final decision yet, I will see how I go after xmas.
I have decided though that I need to get away from babies at the moment (they seem to be everywhere) so I have been applying for a few jobs that dont involve babies,
I hope you are all well, and that you all have a wonderful xmas and a happy new year.
P.S My little sister had a baby girl 2 days after my BFN and I was her support person, but I held it togethor really well, and love my little neice to bits.
Thankyou all again for your wonderful support, love you all heaps, here's to some more BFP'S after xmas. :lol:
Shazey :hug:
I am glad you popped in to see us.I have been wondering how you were going.
I can't imagine how hard it would be to be delivering little bubs everyday when you want one of your own.
Goodluck finding a new ? nursing job in the mean time.
Thinking of you and sending you much strength as you weigh up your decision whether or not to continue on IVF baby trail.
Congratulations to your little sister and new niece - she must be so proud of you being her support person thru your own devastating BFN.
take care
Trish
Trish - I've fixed up your "BFP" info. Sorry I changed it to red from the violet that it already was! I misunderstood!!
Chele - I'm really sorry to hear your news. I can only imagine how disappointed you must be. I've updated your details for you.
Shazey - nice to see you. It must be really hard on you being around little babies all the time when you are on the IVF rollercoaster - you're an amazing woman to hold everything together like you have been.
Chele, what a bugger about the wait. As much as you don't want to think will happen after a cycle, I guess it helps to be prepared.
Shazy, good luck on finding a new job, I feel for you in your position.
Sometimes it does take a while for it all to register, hope you are feeling better after your big cry & talk with DH.
Rang my clinic today, it's been 8 weeks since my EP/mc and still no AF so am getting a BT to find out what's going on. Getting a bit frustrated (though having no AF is good).
Take care
Its good to read updates from you all, I hope we have some graduates soon. I dont think I will be one. I have been pre menstrual the last couple of days, very snappy and bleaugh which is very typical of pmt for me. So feeling very down. We hit 2 years ttc in a week from now and I am exhausted by it all. Planning to either quit or take an extended break in the new year. Very disheartened, but I cant keep grieving for a child that may never exist, if it detracts from me enjoying the miracle child I have.
Hi there,
Welcome to all the newbies - hope you have a short stay!
Hi Suzy - I'm so sorry to hear about your dog. My parents had to have our family dog and cat put to sleep a few years back, was devastating. They're such a big part of our lives aren't they? Hope you're feeling ok. :hugs:
Chele - Best of luck for your FET, it sucks that it's been postponed. However, I hope the time goes by quickly enough for you.
Trish - Huge congratulations on twins!!! :confetti: I'm glad everything's progressing well for you. How's mum feeling?
Dragonfly - Some people need to know when to keep their opinions to themselves, it's called self-control, or impulse-control, very under-rated ;) Hope you are doing ok. If you need to vent, this is the board to do it!
Teagan - Sorry to hear about the BFN :hug: What a bugger. I hope you and your DH are doing ok.
Hi Mel - What's happening with you? How's everything? Hope you are well.
Shazey - Good to see you back . Best of luck with your job-hunting. You're an amazingly strong woman, and very considerate - your sister and your DH are very fortunate!
Well, I can't believe (as I say every year!) that it's almost Christmas. I thought for some reason that I still had plenty of time to organise things....Have been keeping busy writing names on baubles for the tree - I saw it on Days of our Lives years ago how everyone had their own bauble....thought it'd be nice. Easy to do too. Hope everyone's well. What do you each have planned for Christmas? If you don't mind me asking.
Cheers!
Didge
Hi All,
There are so many posts in the last few days it's hard to keep up!
So good luck to everyone in the 2WW and for those with not so good news, my heart goes out to you.
Kell- Keep your chin up. Enjoy your little miracle, but don't give up entirely TTC. If need be, just take a few months break. I've been TTC #1 nearly on 4 years, so i know just how frustrated you must feel.
Tam - Doesn't it get frustrating that you want to keep going and get the cycles happening but that bloody witch doens't want to show herself. I'm still waiting for AF since i had a lapersocopy back on 11th November, and all i can do now is wait. The clinic im with closes on Friday for 2 weeks so i'm going to be so cross if AF comes over christmas, as i won't be able to do anything anyway!!!
Shazey- Big Hugs to You - I know being around babies as much as you are must be really hard. I'm an ex child care worker and you have to have such a love for kids to do a job like that and it is so hard when you have trouble getting your own. My thoughts are with you. How about aged care....thats at the other end of the spectrum!!
Chele - Don't you hate it when your body just doesn't do what you want it to do and in turn puts everything back a whole month. I'm going through that now too. They wanted me to do 2 more cycles with clomid before going on to AIH in Feb, but because AF hasn't showed herself since the start of Nov, i'll be lucky to get one more in before Feb. I think this is one time that i'm praying for AF to rear her ugly head.
Didge - Good luck and i hope all works out for you. My fingers are crossed .
Suzy - Sorry to hear about your dog, but what a nice way to remember her by scattering her ashes in her favourite spots. After reading your post a had a little tear in my eye and went and gave my two 'babies', my dog and cat, a big cuddle. Not having any children of my own - yet - these two are my children and they get treated like my children, and i just love them to bits.
To everyone else - I hope you are doing well where ever you are in your cycles and heres wish to lots of BFP in 2006.
ME - I'm still here, waiting for AF to come. It's getting a bit too close now in regards to the clinic closing to start this cycle as my CD12 U/S would be due when they are still closed. If AF is nice to me, she will wait until sometime next week (at the earliest) to show herself so that i can start on clomid and then be able to get to the clinic for the scan once they re-open.
We had DH's family xmas picnic in the park on Sunday. Apparently DH's mother has told all the family what we are going through so i had everyone asking me 'Are you pregnant yet', so of course when i answer 'NO' I get the usual replies of 'Oh well, just relax and don't think about it, it will happen"....AHHHHHHH stop telling me this...I don't want to here it.
DH's cousin also told me that his wife is 16 wks pg and is really sick (which is why she wasn't there), but i was really happy for them because they have been TTC for a few years now and have had 2 m/c's and a few IVF cycles. It made me realise that it can happen, if we stick at it, so at least that was a family pregnancy that i was happy to hear about....yeah i wish it had of been me, but i know what they are going through, so it's all good.
Hope that everyone is ready for xmas. DH and i are getting ourselves ready in the shop as our little town grows by about 5000 holiday makers over the christmas holidays, so this is our busiest time of year, so lots to get ready for stock wise etc. As for the family xmas lunch, all i have to do is make some yummy treats and the stuffing and i'm all set, so that will be my Friday and Saturday jobs.
Once again, good luck to everyone and i'll drop back in before the jolly man arrives to wish you all a merry xmas.
Love SHan. :lol:
Hi there. Could one of you lovely Mods please update my details?
Name - Deirdre (Didge)
State - Victoria
My Previous Cycle Length - 27 - still going
Cycle Type - Down Reg Cycle
FF Link -
Months of TTC - 58 (inc. m/c 24/02/04)
Medications - blackmores pregnancy multivitamins, crinone
Important Dates - Beta - New Years Day
Reason for infertility - Endo; right tube removed 16/06/05
And could I also have my name added to the December transfers please?
Thanking you!
shazey: it's great to 'see' you - good luck with the new work path - as already mentioned you are such a strong woman - if you do decide to give it another go, I hope that next little miracle comes along for you soon. :hug:
Tam: hope the BT goes well. AF NEVER does what we want her to!
Kell: sorry to hear you are feeling a bit PMTish. Thinking of you and still sending lots of positive vibes.
Didge: everything crossable is crossed for you. :luck:
Trish: congrats on twins - when did you find out you're having two bubbies?
Lots of Christmas wishes to everyone else as well. 8-)
Me: I have a two week break from work (starting Wed p.m.) which I'm desperately looking forward to - it's been a LONG year without too much to cheer about. I'm going to catch up with family in Melbourne for a couple of days. My cousin had gorgeous twin girls a few weeks ago and I can't wait to see them in person. And then I'll be spending a few days down at Gippsland with my best friend and her family. She says I need a relaxing break away where I will be waited on hand and foot - can't argue with that! :lol:
And here's to a flourish of BFP's in the New Year. :confetti:
Marg
Hi Shan,
....so are you guys relaxing, you know that's all it takes - obviously I'm kidding....I had one individual who I have not contacted for 3 months who would ALWAYS ask me if I was pregnant, or if we were trying, or how's all the pregnancy stuff going, even had the cheeck to ask me after her DD was born this year, if seeing her made me feel clucky... This was going on for 2 years - even after my DH told her that our chances were slim, and please don't say ANYTHING because it upsets her, she immediately turned around to me and asked me! :soapbox: So no more contact...
Good luck with AF - hope it arrives when you'd like, would be nice for her to show some consideration eh? A bit of Christmas spirit if you will ;)
Have a lovely Christmas!
Didge
Hi Ladies,
Just quick question. How do you deal with the questions of when are you going to have a baby that come at you from all directions? Do those around you know about the problems you have? but still ask anyway?
Some answers would be great!!!
lil_chookie
Hi Lil Chookie,
I guess it depends on how well you know them, and what your relationship with them is like.
The majority of people can be answered with, 'When we're ready', or 'When the time is right' etc... or 'We haven't even thought about that yet, have so many other things blah blah blah.....' easy done.
Just remember that when you say it you can't take it back, so choose who you confide in wisely.
Most people will be cool about not asking if they know your troubles...there will always be those however, who will still ask...you can politely tell them to not do so because a. it's annoying, and b. you don't know yourself. For those who are cruel about it, my advice if they don't stop asking is to limit contact - save your emotional strength, they're not worth the effort.
Best of luck, and if you need support, we're always here!
I think this is the time of year I find the hardest. There is a lot of catching up with people who we may not have seen all year & who are not close friends & who I choose to not tell our story too as it isn't any of their business!!
It would be nice if sometimes people looked at things a bit more logically, put two & two together and thought "okay we would have suspected these two to have had children several years ago, there once again does not seem to be a baby, perhaps they are experiencing some problems, maybe not pose that so when are you question to them????" !!!!!!!!!
I get to the point this time of year where I may have been asked the question numerous times in an afternoon and I just want to turn around and scream "It's none of your f***ing business!!!!!"
Ohh that was a little chrsitmas vent from me!!!! :lol:
DIDGE - thanks for that, i needed to have a little giggle and i liked the soap emoticon.....if only i could use that in real life instead of coming out with it!!!
lil_chookie - it is really hard when people keep asking you all the time. My close friends and really good about it and they always ask how my appointments have gone etc, but don't come out with the 'are you pg yet?' comment. I am finding that the most problems are with my family and you'd think that they would be the ones to show a little compassion, mind you after SIL announced she's pg last month all i'm getting now is 'is there a little peanut in there yet', or 'are we going to have cousins growing up together or what', etc etc. It is really hard to deal with, so i've pretty much shut myself off for it all and don't let them know what is going on etc, and if they ask i just so either 'no' or 'fine' depending on what the question is.
Also DH and I run a general store and a lot of people, when we are talking to them ask if we have children (i think mainy because we have a lot of kids come in to get lollies and being an ex child carer, I relate well to them). I pretty much say 'no, but we're trying', and then everytime they come back in again, it's like 'hows the babymaking going' etc etc. It is really hard too, but i just have to keep a smile on my face and just say that 'practice makes perfect' and laugh it off. REallly what else can i do, i don't want to upset the customers with my "soap filled mouth" :lol:
Hope that helped.
SHan
Lol...or c. it's none of your f*%$ing business - I knew one was missing ;)
Marg
we found out officially last Thursday but suspected due to high betas and the two embryos we put back.Thank you.
The big Q... and A.
When we kept getting asked about when we were having children - the standard line 'we are still practicing' - it was easier with a joke - because it was too painful and too personal especially friends and in church/work situation. The near family didn't really ask because we had only been married a few years and we were still in our early/mid twenties. I guess if they suspected later -they were sensitive. My brother & wife - had yet to have any children and DH sister's had completed their family.
I worked in a children's ward and I got asked a few times a week or more sometimes - do you have any kids ? by parents of patients
and from nursing colleagues - mostly fertile in 20's and 30' every time a new pregnancy was announced - when are you having ...
At any time there would have been 6 or more pregnant women and that's all people talked about on meal/tea breaks.
Then we adopted our DS - much to the surprise of everyone (work & family) and I gave work a weeks notice (all we got too) -They stopped asking then - DS was 13 months old at the time of adoption.
When we conceived our miracle :angel: Charlotte 10 yrs later- the family & friends were shocked ! after all those years.
Last Tuesday my SIL (from QLD) sent me a book - INFERTILITY (coping and living with it I think is more the gist) - 2 days later Dh broke our news. I haven't had a chance to read it yet ! I hope I don't have to.
Time for me to join officially
Name - Bec
State - Vic
My Previous Cycle Length - preg, 48,65,waiting patiently in the 90's
Cycle Type - FET, with FSH then proffasi trigger
FF Link - none
Months of TTC - 5 (3 on IVF)years before dd- 9 months old
Medications - Elevit
Important Dates - Back to the clinic on Jan 21st to plan for Feb transfer
I'm getting alittle edgey about the upcoming appointment, its hard to believe I did it for so long and never battered an eyelid. Better make plans to have some waxing done ;)
Hi guys just thought I'd pop my head in to wish everyone of Safe and Happy Xmas. I hope it's not too painful a time for anyone
All fixed Didge & Bec! ;)
Thanks for all the lovely responses ladies. I can remember way back when I was younger and never thought about these things for myself, I used to wonder why different people hadn't had children? It can be a sensitive subject in so many ways. I remember once when I was studying I was in line in the cafe in between these two women from my course. The one behind me lent over to the one in front and touched the womens belly and said "when are you due?" and she responds "I'm not pregnant". I just remember standing in front of these two women thinking can you really do that to someone? That is so invading someone's personal space. I guess that is how I feel sometimes with people asking me when I am going to have a baby. I don't know when I am going to have a baby, I put an order in for one a long time ago, it just hasn't arrived yet!!! I feel like my peronsal space is being invaided. I'm okay with it, I have a beautiful dh, a wonderful life, I just don't really want to talk about it with anyone!!
:)
Chookie - I'm with you. I never used to ask people the "When are you going to have a baby?" question and I would never touch anyone's stomach nor presume they were pregnant either. It's all a bit personal for me!
Some people are a bit bold though. :rolleyes: Can't help themselves and probably don't think too much either.
Name - shell
State - vic
My Previous Cycle Length - 28
Cycle Type - natural
Months of TTC - 18 cycles~16 months
Medications - vitex
Hi all I would like to join your group here. Wish I'd found it when first TTC. it hard when no one around you understands.
Well my DP had a low sperm count which fortunately for us just happened to be an inflammation and easily treated with anti-biotics. So I thought okay we back on track we should get pg straight away. Felt positive as my day 21 blood tests were all fine. 3 cycles post good sperm still no BFP. Specialist told us to try 6 mnths post good sperm before we return so fingers crossed.
Unfortunately i made the mistake of telling people when we first started TTC so i constantly get asked if I'm pg yet and why not, that I should be by now, etc. i know I should be by now but it not really in our control is it.
It funny how I spent all those years on the pill trying not to get pg would never have beleived that trying to get pg would be so long and hard!
Well I just O yest so fingers crossed for next 2 weeks.
OHHHHh Trish, sorry honey I am on holidays on the Gold Coast and just read your post... YOU ARE HAVING TWINS....this is just the best sweetheart and i wish you and DH all the best...
I hope Santa brings you double of everything, cots, prams, car seats, change tables, baths.... cause honey you are going to need it!!!!.
You are so deserving of it, and not a day goes by when i don't think of you and how inspiring you really are....
love and hugs
leis xxx
Can I ask you ladies what you think of these statistics. For my age group the clinic did 110 treatment cycles. they had 99 patients. 10 cycles were cancelled. 100 egg retrievals. 96 embryp transfers. an average of 13 eggs retrieved. they ended up with 45 pregnancies, a pregnancy rate of 40.91%. pregnancy rate per embryo transfer of 46%. Of those pregnancies 23 were singletons, 20 twins and 1 triplets.
I only ask because I'm considering moving clinics to this one and I need someones opinion as to whether these statistics are good enough for me to move. Please bear in mind these statistics are over the period jan - june 2005.
thanks for any adivice.
Oh my god TRISH! I missed that!!!!!! That is fantastic news sweetheart!
I caved and POAS today. I am 14 DP IUI and it was a clear negative. I will have the beta as matter of going throught the motions, but wont sweat the result. In a way its good to be able to put it to bed and move on for the xmas break.
We will take a break of sorts again now, with an indefinite timeframe, and see how we go. I prepared myself better this cycle I think, and have expected this result all week - have had my usual AF symptoms so was pretty sure of a negative.
It still hurts, but it serves to make me more grateful for the miracle I have, its not fair to grieve for a child that may never exist, if it affects the delight that does. I have a lot to think about. All the best to you all.
Hi baby bliss,
Sorry to hear about the BFN. Maybe a break will do you good. Help you to clear your head.
I like what you said at the end of your post. it's a good point. We do grieve about something that doesn't exist. Enjoy your time with your son. Make the most of it all.
sararms,
the main thing you'd want to know is what the clinic's live birth rate is, not their pg rate. The reason for this is that a lot of clinics will use pg stats to signify success, but it is the live birth rate that matters. A clinic can have a 40% pg rate, but only a 20% live birth rate.
Also, you'll find that for your age group, most clinics will have a good success rate. It is whether they manage good successes in other age groups that will set them apart. This in part is because, while you're likely to succeed within a few cycles, if you don't, you want to know that they have experience in, and are progressive enough to try, different things to help you along. So don't dismiss the success rates of those for whom infertility may be a more complex issue, just in case you may need a clinic which is willing to go that extra mile. A good clinic is a good clinic to all their patients.
HTH, my sweet, and good luck!
love
sushee
Hi Girls,
I just wanted to pop in and wish everyone a very :lol: MERRY CHRISTMAS :lol: For all of us TTC, I'd like to see less of this: :eat: , and more of this: :bd: . Ha Ha Ha (or should that be Ho Ho Ho)
For the few of you doing tests today - GOOD LUCK - I really hope you get the best christmas present EVER!
I may not be around much over the next few weeks. Will be very busy in our shop (tourist town!!!). I'll try to jump on of a night time, but depending on how tired i am, will depend on how often i post.
Once again, Merry Christmas and i'll talk to you all soon. :p
Shan
Shell - welcome and good luck with your ttc journey - here's hoping for a great result in the New Year. I must admit that it definitely does my head in when I think about how many years I spent on the pill trying NOT to get pregnant - and now that I want to it isn't happening! Crazy! ](*,)
Kell - so sorry to hear that you got a BFN - what we would all give to see those two bright lines. Try and enjoy your Christmas break and take care. :hug:
Sending lots of hugs to everyone and here's hoping Santa brings you lots of lovely pressies - and that the New Year brings us all that extra special blessing. :pdust:
Take care,
Marg
Merry Xmas everyone!
Got the official beta result this afternoon and a definite BFN. So many follis, such a good sperm count and still nothing. I dont get it. Oh well. Many a bevvy for me over xmas instead I guess. Have a lovely day tomorrow...
Sorry to hear about your bfn Kell. :hug: Take care of yourself and DH.
Just like to wish all you lovely girls and your families a lovely xmas. May santa be kind to you!! ;)
love
H
PS - My new year's resolution is to update my ticker!!
Baby bliss
I know just how it feels. I too have had all the right signs just to get a big fat nothing at the end of it. The one thing we can say is that we are not alone in that here.
Idon't know about you, but I will be doing my very best to get pregant miraculously and naturally over Christmas and up to our next attempt probably in the Spring. I hope you bounce back quickly after your bad news.
all the best for the new year. xx
Sorry about the BFN Kelly, hopefully 2006 will be the year for all of you.
Have a Merry Christmas.
Blue, please don't touch the ticker - I want to see how high the numbers will go. Step away from the ticker....
Sue