LTTTC & Taking Clomid/Metformin 2009 #3

Hello lovely ladies,

Just thought I would update you all. So my stupid period arrived yesterday (just after I had done a Pregnancy test - always the way). So I'm off to see my Gyno on Friday (we also settle on our new house on Friday so hopefully it will be a good day all round) and hopefully she will booked me in QUICKLY for a Lap.

Got horrible pain today and last night, so bad that I couldn't sleep, ah I love and hate Clomid all at the same time.:wall:

Hope you are all doing well.

Chat soon, love Keli Xxoo

Hey everyone!

Hey Kelli, im upset to hear your news, i got mine last friday at work worst of all, i could have broken down, but i held up pretty well.. i dont let the gals at work know that im trying so i had no comfort here. So today i start my 3rd dose of Clomid, You? is this your 3rd too? .. Can i ask do you know what a Laparoscopy is? cos i dont think ive had one done? & also do you see your Gyno after every month? cos my specialist said to just come back if it doesnt work in 6months..
How you feeling tho? emotional wise, are you ok Darl?

Hi 31Becc, so you conceived on Clomid? i hope so cos that would bring me more hope :pray: Congratulations, hope everything goes well..

My best Friends showers this weekend, i think i might be bit down, but i need to put on a smile for her day ..

Goodluck this time around Kelli!

Sorry to hear the news girls.

Jess - yes I conceived on Clomid - it was the month after I had my lap/hys/dye done. They put you under and check out your tubes and give you a bit of a clean out.

Hi Gals,

Just wanted to jump on here today in the hope that i might feel a bit better.

I had a little bit of a winge this morning, i guess late reaction, maybe hormones, clomid
i dont know but i was at work went to the bathroom and cried a little to myself, My sister
tried to cheer me up a bit-didnt work. I then Called my fertility specialist & asked if there were any other test that should be taken, i mentioned the Laparoscopy, but as she said i dont not have Endo & doesnt think it necessary to do it. I then thought maybe i should do a HSG test again (Falopean tube) ive heard that women fall pregnant sometimes after they are cleared out.. im thinking should i ask this to be done again? even thought i had it done maybe a year ago & was extremely painful, but as many of you i would do almost anything to have a baby.

there i go again, winging.. i always have to think there are always worse off then me..
anyways just needed to do something.

:pray:

Hey guys,

I've been thinking about you all the past week, praying that everyone of you gets the good news that you are all wanting. :) I know it will happen.:grouphug:

I went for my 7 week viability test last week, everything was great, got to see bubby's heatbeat it was amazing, i tell you this to give you all hope coz it wont be long till you are all experiencing the same thing :):heartbeat:
I dont have my 12 week scan till mid dec so still a few weeks till then, everyday i worry bout bubby but am trying to be more relaxed and me and my man are enjoying it...

Hi girls...

How is everyone?

Keli & Jess - I'm sorry to hear your news.

I'm on day 18 so I'm starting to feel really anxious. I have my day 21 blood test on Monday. I have a family wedding to go to on the weekend and I am really not looking forward to being asked a million times when are we going to have kids... it really bugs me, especially seeing I never ask such a question. Maybe I'm just being over sensitive.

Deep breathes... smile...

i know what you mean emily it is very annoying.

im still waiting to have my blood tests done next week. Im trying not to get my hopes up that i could be pregnant (i doubt it but there is a chance) i think i may have ovulated about a week ago, i got really bad pains like period pain but no period so im crossing my fingers. but if i have my bloods done and no baby i will start my injections again and go from there

Hi ladies
I've been off BB for a while but then saw this thread and had to jump in. We've been TTC for nearly 18 months and I'm on my 2nd round of clomid. I'm really hoping this works because if it doesn't, FS wants me to have a laproscopy.

I had the most painful period after the 1st dose of clomid and am now freaking that I might have endo. Also had intense ovulation pain, hot flushes and insomnia...and was a tad anxious as well - and I'm only on 50mg!

Anyway, I try to stay positive, but it can be bloody hard sometimes. DH is as supportive as he can be, but even the baby making schedule has put a strain on our relationship. I have no girlfriends I can talk to because they either all fell preggers quickly, or are not interested in having babies at all. So none of them really understand what it's like. Thank god for BB!

That's my whine for the day....

Does anyone know how likely it is to fall preggers after a laproscopy? How long do you have to wait after the operation before TTC again?

Hi Mez Moz,

Im in the same boat, weve bee TTC for about 14 months now, though we were unproctected for atleast 3years but not trying on correct dates, if that makes sense.
im 24 & hubbys 27, i have PCOS & am on my 3rd Clomid cycle.
Last week i called my FS & i asked should i have a laparoscopy, but she informed me that is only for women with Endo, maybe you should ask your FS that 1st cos you wouldnt want to do the procedure if it wasnt necessary, i googled it, its surgery.

I understand completeley about not telling your friends, unfortunately i found out i had PCOS when i was 16 or 18, & not understanding the full extent to it, i told all my friends, now thinking on it i wish i hadnt. since then 2 of my friends have had countless abortions, & you would understand how that had made me feel. Both them friends had a baby in the end, 1 is due in January. Now i dont tell anyone we are trying cos i dont want them to know, its so painful.

I dont know if this will help anyone, but i google alot (:lol:) & so last week i googled what things to eat & not to eat while trying, i know that they arent proven facts, but it helps me when im trying to help myself.. Aparently Caffiene is a no no, & you should eat heaps of Berries & oysters, or subsitute oysters for Zinc Vitamins!

All the obvious things, like fatty foods, you shouldnt eat.. ill find out what Vitamins are good for women TTC & post it..

GOODLUCK LADIES!! :pray:

Xx Jess

Mezmoz - you might see some of my details up above about my experience. Anyway, I had a lap/hys/dye done and had to wait until my next cycle. I was close to the 2 year mark at that stage, but the first month after I fell and still am.

Jess, my surgery was exploretory - my FS standard was put you on clomid for 4 months if you are then not, he does the surgery no matter what, as he explained that there is a higher chance in the first 3 months after having it done that you will fall. I would be demanding that this get done, if I were you. I didn't think it was that major, it was by keyhole. I was in "surgery" for 25 mins and awake after an hour. I had it done on a Friday and was back at work on Monday. Also the reason the DR did it was because he wanted to see if anything was wrong down there. I used to get bad period pains and ovulation pains. But nothing wrong just needed a "clean out", he would have done it even if I didn't have pains, just to rule out things.

some of the other girls also suggest you take the clomid at night, as you avoid some of the bad reactions. In saying that, all of what you said is pretty standard as to what I experienced.

Fingers crossed girls.

Hi everyone,

So sorry I have not been on for a while, my stupid work has blocked this site so I can only read and not respond whilst I’m at work, will have to send replies at home from now on.

Also…hubby and I just bought our first home and moved in over the weekend so the past few weeks have been crazy for me with packing and moving.

Hey Jess,
Oh bummer, I’m sorry your period arrived, no fun. That’s no good that you had no support at work, hope hubby was good to you Friday night. That’s great news that you are starting round 3 though, I have everything crossed for you. I have just finished my 4th round, only 3 of which worked (I ovulated). So a Laparoscopy is a procedure where they put you under a general aesthetic and insert 2-4 instruments into your abdomen to have a look around, they also check to see if your fallopian tubes are block and if so they attempt to unblock them. They will also have a look at my cysts on my ovaries and maybe try to remove some of them. A Lap is the only way of testing for endo which is what I am beginning to think I may have with all the pain that’s been going on, if they do find endo then they can clean it out for me. This procedure substantially increases your chases of fertility so long as it all goes smoothly. The flip side is that the fallopian tubes are blocked and cannot be cleared, in which case you then jump straight to IVF. Hope that helps to explain it a little. Try google’ing it. No I don’t see my gyno after every month, she told me to come back if we weren’t preggas after 3 months because we have been trying for 2 & ½ years and she can tell that we are over it. Emotionally I am doing better this week, I really feel that it is in the water at the moment, everyone around me is pregnant, and hopefully it will be our turn soon. How about you gorgeous? How did the shower go? I have my friends on this weekend J Also did you end up asking your specialist if you could get the dye test done again? Hope you are feeling better chick.

Hi 31Becc, Just a quick question about your Lap, did they find anything? Did they have to clean your tubes out etc? And how long after your lap could you start TTC again?

Frustrated, I am so glad everything is going well for you. Please continue to keep us updated. It’s so good to see “One of our own” preggas and all going well. I love it J

Emily ttc, yes I get a little sick of people asking that question. Sometimes I’m polite and just answer with “soon”, but sometimes (on my moody days) I respond with “we’ve been trying for 2 and half years and we’re having some complications”, that tends to shut people up pretty quickly.

Good luck Tamara, everything is crossed for you, please let us know how you go.

Hi Mez Moz, welcome to the forum. I also have had extreme pain on Clomid and am now off to have a lap done. Not sure if the pain is related to the Clomid but I’d prefer to know, at least this way I will know if anything else is wrong. I too have had hot flushes, they’re not much fun you feel like you’re going through menopause.

As for me… well I saw gyno on Friday morning (before settlement of our new house) she has booked me in for a Lap and because I have been having pain with my periods she was able to upgrade me and I am on a waiting list that is no more than 3 months (the other waiting list was 6-12 months), so I’m reasonably happy about that. Also I am on a last minute notice waiting list so if someone cancels there appointment (get’s preggas in the mean time) I can be called in with 48 hours notice and take their appointment. So I should know by the end of the week (I think) when I am booked in for. I have decided to give myself and hubby a rest this month, so no clomid for me.

So I am going to get graphical for a sec here (sorry) just need to ask some questions though. The last 3 nights I have been sweating like crazy and my mucus has increased heaps, but I’m not on Clomid. Is it possible that I am ovulation off the clomid even though I never have before? Has anyone heard of this happening?

Sorry this is such a long post, just had a lot to say.

Thanks to everyone for all your support, I don’t know what I would do without this forum.

Love & Support to you all.

Keli Xxoo

Hey ladies

Just wanted to fill you in about my blood test, i got my results yesterday and she said there was progesterone so it could mean i have just ovulated or about to ovulate or i will get period soon. So another 2 weeks wait to see what happens.

Im hoping its the ovulation because hubby has been home so he has been able to get the job done so to speak lol

But if i find i get my period im not going to get upset just means i start the injections and take it from there.

Keli - i dont really know much about what you were saying but i wouldnt count ovulation out it might just have needed a kick start

About the laparoscopy - i had ovarian drilling done which is different but i would imagine done pretty much the same way and like bec i was ok the next couple of days

Hi Ladies!

Thank you all for telling me about your expierences with a lap, etc.. Im just so confused, My FS is suppose to be one of the best & im feeling like she hasnt done all the test required, or as she said they arent needed to be done on me, cos i do ovulate nicely, (apparently thats what the last bloods showed).. Ive had the Falopian test done, & i have heard women fall after that, but i didnt, however i wasnt on Clomid so i dont know if Clomid would have helped. The only thing wrong that my Bloods showed was my Testosterone levels being higher than normal, & i think im a bit over weight.

Hey Kelli! i was wondering where you'd gone, nice to hear from you! ... Maybe a break from clomid is what you need, im sure we all understand the pressure & toll it takes to be on "schedule" .. My friends shower was fine, i thought it be hard on me, but it wasnt i was fine.. Goodluck with yours, & let me know how it all goes.
fingers crossed for you babe that you dont have Endo! XX
Im thinking maybe i need another falopian tube test, (HSG) i think the last time i had it done was Last Feb, Do you girls think thats a long time? has anyone done this test more than once?
Having a Lap will only test for Endo right? it wouldnt help with concieving?

hi Tamara, -hoping this happens for you, i know its hard not to get down.. What injections? IUI?

Can anyone tell me what they feel or what symptoms they get when ovulating? i wanna know what im feeling is ovulation..

Goodluck all! Xx

Hey Tammara, don’t you just love test results that are vague? Good luck with the wait again, I have my fingers crossed for you. How often does your hubby go away? Have you thought about Insemination? I mean I’m sure you’d totally prefer it get’s done the natural way (lol) but if he’s away lots it might be a plan. My hubby’s last job saw him interstate all the time so we had a little look into it. What exactly are the injections? Sorry if you have already explained this, I’m just interested. Thanks for the info on the lap.

Hey Jess, So I’ve been thinking about you and maybe because you are ovulating well she does not feel the need for the lap. Do you know if you were ovulating prior to going on Clomid? From what I know, with the fallopian test it increases your chances of falling for 3 months because it clears out the tubes. Can you just book yourself in for another one? How did you get it done last time? I know what you mean, sometimes they’re a little intimidating to ask all the questions to, that’s what this site is for I guess. Did she say what you can do about your testosterone being up? My Naturopath has brought mine down before (she counteracted it with estrogens).
I’m glad to hear the shower went well, I’ll let you know how I go, I think I’ll be fine on the day. Having a lap will test for endo but will also check out my fallopian tubes to make sure they’re not blocked.

As for me when I think I’m ovulating, I get quite sharp but quick pains, similar to period pains but I find period pains duller. Hope that helps.

As for me…..I’m just still waiting on me letter from the hospital, if I haven’t got one by Monday I will give them a call to see where it’s at.

Good luck to everyone for this month, it’s time for some good news again.

Keli Xxoo

Hey Keli

He usually works away 10 days home 2 so there is very little chance of it just happening. The injections i may go back to are for IUI - intra uterine insemination. I was on them before i had the ovarian drilling but my folicles were just not growing so they said to do the drilling and see what happens.

Im not sure about ovulation pains because ive never noticed any, but a couple of weeks ago i was getting period type pain and it was pretty noticable - not like doubled over pain but enough to take panadol.

Hi ladies

re ovulation pain, I never really had ovulation pain before I went on clomid, but I certainly did on clomid! If ovulation is the best time to DTD, I don't know how I could coz it would be very uncomfortable! I had dull pains and slight swelling in my groin, which went away after a day. My temperature also was raised the next day, indicating I had ovulated.

Hi Ladies,

I've been having a quick read and I noticed that there is quite alot of questions re laps. I think the lap procedure is done for a few reasons, and depending on what you need to get done. if its just flushing out the tubes then i think its very quick and easy. I had a sever case of endo. They punctured me in four places. They cleared out all the endo (but it will come back) and a couple of cysts, ovarian drilling and flushed out my tubes. I went into surgery about 12pm and I came to about 6pm. I was off work for 1 week. Was still sore week 2 but that wasnt unbearable.

I got my results for 21 day blood test yesterday. I am so happy with the result even though I dont think i'm pregnant. My progesterone levels have been something like 1-2 (meaning no ovulation) and finally on my third round they are over 30! I finally ovulated.. woo hoo first time in months. My dr told me to wait till next week before I do a test but i had some spotting this morning.

Bring on round 4!

Emily

Emily your spotting could be implantation. It is apparently quite common a week or so after ovulation, I never had it but know of heaps of people that have. Fingers crossed for you.

Oh Keli - in response before, they thought I had endo cause I was getting bad ovulation pains, but didn't, I had my tubes cleaned out, they were blocked but apparently had "gunk" in them. My ovulation pains were explained by my FS that there are three levels of people with ovulation, people who can't feel it, people who can and people who extremely feel it (me). I wasn't ovulating before clomid so really noticed it when I was. It has continued as I felt movement once successful about 15 weeks.

Fingers crossed girls.

Hey 31Becc, thanks for the info about your lap. Well that sounds like good news to me, I would be so happy if I didn't have endo and it was just my tubes. Hopefully I will get to have the lap soon and then I can find out for sure. How long after you had the lap did you fall?

Emily I suer hope I dont have a lap procedure like yours, 6 hours is crazy. Hope it works for you. When did you have it done?

Keli - I had to wait until the next AF to start trying and then it was my first month. Hope this helps.

Hi ladies

I'm very interested in the lap info as my FS said if clomid doesn't work this round I have to have a lap. I'm coming up to fertile time so :pray: it works this time.

Emily, good to hear you ovulated! Re your lap, did you know you were going to be having so much done when you went to get your lap? Or does the doc only find out what he needs to clean up when he does the procedure? My FS said I'll be right in 4 days after the lap, so hope that is the case.

31becc - I havent heard of implantation? Will have to google it.

Keli - I hope its simple for you as well. I had it done in March this year. 9 months now.

Mez Moz - I did a few ultrasounds over a couple of months to monitor the endo movement but basically they dont know until they do the procedure. My fingers are crossed for you. I was back at work the next week.

So started the round 4 clomid. Hopefully the chrissy spirit will work in our favour :dance:

Emily

Hi ladies

I've just finished 4 days of prenatal yoga teacher training so I can start teaching this style of yoga next year. Gotta admit it was intense and brought up a lot of issues for me which culminated in a mini meltdown last night...thoughts like 'how can I teach prenatal yoga when I can't even get pregnant' and the sadness / frustration / grief in the whole LTTTC journey. But I was also so grateful and amazed by the wonderous learnings about pregnancy and birth. Did you know that the same hormones that flood the body during orgasm are the same hormones that flood your body during birth?!?! Anyway, we'll get our BFP eventually ladies! And then we too will be able to experience the miracle of bringing our baby into the world. When you do become pregnant, I throughly recommend prenatal yoga!

Hope your week goes well :lol:

Emily - it is when the egg burrows its way into the wall of your uterus and it is part of the lining coming out (ie spotting).

Hope this helps.

Hi Ladies!

I am 26 and DH is 28... we have been TTC for 3 months (1 out of those 3 I ovulated), but because I was diagnosed with PCOS when I was 19 the dr said there is no point in wasting time and put me on Clomid. This is my first cycle on 50mg... I am on day 19 and dont think I have ovulated as yet which is causing me to worry a little.

I have never felt ovulation pain (well not that I can recall), and I have been taking the clomid at night so havent felt any side effects - except for being a little moodier and more irritable than usual.

What an emotional rollercoaster this is... good luck to everyone out there.

Morning all,
Hi Mez Moz, yeah I was the same as you I think. My Gyno said to go on Clomid for 3 months and if I wasn’t’ preggas then she would book me in for a lap, which is where I’m at now, waiting for surgery. Good luck with fertile time, enjoy it. Hope you are ok after your small meltdown? I had one yesterday, no fun at all. Just remember you don’t have to touch the oven to know that it’s hot… Thanks for the hormone info though, I read your post last night and thought it was fabulous.
Welcome Connie_Melb – This is a fabulous sight for those that have been LTTTC. I hope you find it as useful as I have. So is this your first round on Clomid? I was on 50mg for 2 months, the first I ovulated and the second I didn’t, try not to stress cos they can always increase your dose. Some of the girls on this sight have been on 175mg.
As for me, so I too had a small meltdown yesterday. On Saturday 2 friends (One with a 13 month old and the other with a 10 month old) told me that they were about to start trying again, this was really hard for me to hear cos I remember when they first told us they were preggas and I remember thinking…What??? They weren’t even trying, this should be me, we have been trying for so long already, ahhhh!!!! Anyway I got over that eventually but yesterday I had a friend’s baby shower to go to and whilst it was a great baby shower it was a little emotional for me. Babies galore, totally sucks. I was good I held it together until I got in my car to drive myself home and then I kinda lost it. Just a little over it all at the moment.
Thanks for listening girls, you have no idea how much you all mean to me. I would be lost without this site. I really hope one of us is up the duff really soon. It’s about time this site had some more good news.
Hugs & Kisses to you all.
Take care,
Keli

Oh Keli I'm sorry you had a meltdown too. It is so hard when it seems like all your friends can pop out babies without even trying, yet you do so much work to get your body healthy, mind healthy and still no luck! At least there are still quite a few more medical options after clomid and a lap that we can call on. I have to keep reminding myself of this so that I don't get too disappointed each time AF arrives. I'm not sure if you have any enjoyable distractions in your life to take your mind away from babies?? I have found that yoga has been fantastic, not only for my body and mind, but also because I've made lots of friends at the studio I go to and we all talk about yoga - not babies! It's a nice break away from the intensity of LTTTC.

Welcome Connie Melb - I hope your time in this thread is short and you get a BFP very soon. Don't stress about not ovulating the first time on clomid, the doc will just increase your dose if it doesn't work at 50mg. Good to hear you don't have many side effects. Even on 50mg I felt :pms: x 100!!!!

I'm supposed to be ovulating any day now, so DH is getting a workout! With my dates this month I'll know if I'm UTD by Christmas, so I'm hoping Santa will bring me the gift I have been wanting for so long.

Good luck and try to stay positive ladies!

Thanks Mez Moz, I love this site so much, it is a constant reminder that I am not alone in all of this. Yes I exercise to help keep my mind busy. I have been running 2 mornings a week all year with 3 other friends which is great, we all call it therapy, and I have just recently started swimming the other 3 mornings a week. Hubby and I ride some weekends too. I am now in training for a mini triathlon in January. Woo hoo, should be fun. Everything is crossed for the most wonderful Christmas present ever for you honey, I hope all your dreams coming true, and enjoy DTD in the mean time, he he!

Hi Ladies,

Hope you are all feeling happy & positive!

ive been a bit down lately, i had excrutiating pain on my left pelvic side, Sunday & all night through, i was so worried what it could be, i had 100 things going through my mind, i was even thinking of going Hospital, i know on Clomid you can get Ectopic pregnancies, so that was one thing travelling through my mind, i had Monday & tuesday off work, i was in extreme pain, my GP gave me a Ultrasound Referral, & results show i have a 2.1cm Cyst on my Left Ovary, my GP thinks as it was time of my ovulation, that might be why i was in pain, as my eggs may have been dropping making way throught the cyst as it was in the way. Well thats how Gp explains it.. i can still feel the pain but just discomfort. Ive booked in to see my FS but thats not till the 23rd, so ive decided id give me & hubby a break from Clomid over Xmas, I need a break from this emotional rollercoster.

Does anyone know if cyst can affect trying to Fall? GP says no, but i wanna see my FS i know she will be honest. I will asks for More tests, & possibly a higher Clomid Dosage..

Are you ok Kelli? i know that woulda been horrible for you, But you know what try to think of the good things you have in your life that maybe your friends dont, Stability, family, friends, A loving husband.. i know its hard to do, but to keep us from going crazy, it might help a little. I think ill break down if any more of my friends has a baby, & id hope that my sister who has had 2 children will not have another till i do, thats so selfish right??? lol... i just want my turn.. :dance:
175g of CLomid?? really that much.. that be side affects galore!

Hi Connie, yes i agree with Kelli, this is a great site.. as she said it makes you feel as though your not the only one going through this all.
Have you had many tests done?

Hope to hear back from you ladies!

Hi Jess

So sorry to hear about your cyst. I'm not sure if having a cyst can prevent you from falling preggers, but I can tell you a story about my hairdresser... She was only 8 weeks or so preggers when she had excuciating pain, just like you described, and thought she was having a miscarriage. It turns out a cyst on her ovaries errupted and that's why she was in so much pain. But after a quick trip to hospital, she was given the all clear and 7 months later gave birth to a beautiful boy.

Good idea to give yourselves a break over xmas. I'm about to approach ovulation any day now, and if it doesn't work this time, we are going to have a break too. I'm going to drink some wine, eat soft cheese and sushi, and try not to think about babies!

Now for an awkward question...have any of you on clomid noticed your EWCM dissapear? I never had much to start with and now I have hardly any. My FS said not to use lube, even the so called 'fertility' lubes.... any suggestions?

All the best ladies xo

Mez Moz - apparently Preseed is a good one. I have used that any many other people have too.

Hi ladies,

Nice to see some action back on the site, I get sad when we go through a few days with no contact.

Jess, oh you poor thing honey, are you ok? Make sure you mention how bad the pain was when you see your FS cos pain puts you in a better position when it comes to waiting lists, trust me I know. Not sure about the actual effects of cysts whilst TTC, I’ve had a little Google and it appears it doesn’t seem to be a problem, but then who knows hey, I’d defiantly ask your FS if I were you. Have you thought about having a lap Jess? I know it’s surgery but they can clear a lot of things out for you. Just a thought. Yes I’m ok, just had a mini meltdown. Your right, I do have a wonderful life, I’m healthy, happy, have a hubby that adores me, financial secure (not that that’s everything, but it sure does help) and just bought our new home. Problem is I’d trade it all for a bub, as I’m sure we all would. It is hard to watch all your friends have babies with such ease, is your sister planning on having more?

Now I’m totally confused. I thought that PCOS was hereditary. Is that correct? My sister also has it (got diagnosed after I found out I had it). Does anyone know more about this?

Well it sounds like we are all due for a break doesn’t it? Jess, Mez Moz and I are all having a break from it. Happy no Clomid Christmas to you all!!!!!

Mez Moz, how are you love? Not sure what EWCM actually stands for but I get the jist of what you’re talking about. Mine has been the total the opposite, sorry. Why can’t you use lube? I’ve never heard that before. Bummer, cos we were using it when we first started on Clomid (just for the extra slide – ok now I am laughing, this is hilarious to talk about) but I hate the stuff so we stopped.

Love to all

Keli xxoo

Keli - apparently lube can kill sperm, preseed is usually recommended and you can buy it online. If you look at the first strand of this forum, a lot of people were using it back then.

Hey gals! i agree Kelli! I Love reading everyones post, even if it doesnt involve me, its good to know other things..

So what is EWCM? im not as cluey as you Gals.. im guessing its Lube, & i did read somewhere that it helps sperm slide (Kelli's words exactly lol)

No i dont think PCOS is Heriditary, my sis took maybe a year to concieve with her 15month, but that was bcos of her irregular periods, with her 2nd it was almost as soon as she started, i wasnt happy but now i have 2 adorable neices i adore! :p

Kelli, so how is your new house? i understand what you mean, we just bought a new house too earlier this year, & as much as i love it, the joy of a baby id love more.

Mez Moz thank you for your story, positive stories always give me hope :)

Yes i think a break is what we all need.. Plus we'd be on holidays with my family around the time of DTD so that wouldnt be so comfy.. :dance:

Take care everyone!

xx

Hey Jess

re: the cyst when i had my ovarian drilling the Dr said there was a cyst there and they took it off but said that wouldnt have been the problem so i would say no but its always worth asking FS about things - everyone is different.

As for me AF came yesterday so i started my injections today and go have ultrasound wednesday and see how my folicles are going so fingers crossed they are big fat jucy ones lol

Hi ladies

Be careful with using lube...my FS said even if it's marketed as being fertile friendly, it's best to use nothing, which for me can make DTD a bit uncomfortable unless it's right on O Day. EWCM is egg white cervical mucus - the stuff that indicates you are about to O. I don't get much - some women get heaps. I was using Preseed in the early days (It's expensive!) and there are a couple of other ones on the market now. I even contemplated using raw egg white as this is supposed to be the best alternative, but couldn't bring myself to do it!

Tammara - hope the injections do their job this time. Hope you're not feeling too down about getting AF - I know I always have a little weep when she arrives.

Yes, I agree Jess, we need to give ourselves a break on LTTTC over xmas. It can be such a constant burden at times! I have Yoga Teacher training exams for the next 2 weeks so at least that will help distract me while I'm in the 2WW from this last round of Clomid. I'm due to O any day now and have been having O pains, so fingers crossed and I should know if it worked just before xmas. Otherwise I'm going to let my hair down for xmas and NYE!

M xo

Thanks Mez, but im kind of glad i got it so i can start this step and i have decided if nothing happens with my folicles in a couple of weeks im going to talk to FS about ivf, im nearly 35 and i know they say 35 and over is even harder to concieve so im trying to do as much as i can to help

Hi Girls ...

Thank you all for your help with my Cyst problem, ive still had some discomfort & i dont see it settling, but ive booked myself with my FS maybe she can enlighten me a bit, Glad to hear that it shouldnt affect falling pregnant.

What does Ovarian drilling do? & Implantation, is that AI?

Today has been a bit of a depressing day, for no other reason than this. Everyone that walks past is pregnant, so i think i see on average about 50woman walking past with beautiful baby bellies.. i do think they are beautiful, (even if they give us Stress Marks)
Cant seem to think about much else these days, not even shopping Helps :shakehead:

Anyways, i wish you all have a lovely weekend..

Jess, Xx

Thanks for the info bec, no more lube for me then I guess, thankfully I don’t really need it cos it sure can get a bit ouchy when you do.

Hey Jess, what’s up love? Are you ok? I’m sending you big cuddles through the net right now. I’m still confused about PCOS not being hereditary, cos if it’s not then my sister and I are just extremely unlucky cos we both have PCO. Jess maybe your sisters irregular periods was to do with PCO, well done to her if she had two babies naturally anyway. Do you know if she’s ever been tested? House is going well, we are both very happy and much more settled in there now as it is our own. How about yours?

Good luck with the injections Tamarra, please give me all the details. I’d love to know more about it and how it all goes, side effects etc.

Love to all,

Keli Xxoo

Hi girls, here is a link to youtube that shows the drilling procedure - hope it works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKEFEOy9O1s if not just search ovarian drilling

Basicly what they do is drill little holes into the ovary - to me it looks like they are using a soldering iron and burning a hard boiled egg lol

And as for what it does i think it just helps the eggs come out my mind is gone at the moment but it just helps the eggs release therefore in theory help you fall preggers. Something must be going ok with me cos since i had it done ive had 2 periods .

And the injections are to help me produce folicles the injections themself are no problems at all the thing that i really dont like are the internal ultrasounds last lot of injections i think i had at least 5 of them within 2 weeks - not painfull just not terrible comfortable as im sure you all know. so hopefully this wednesday when i have my first ultrasound the folicles willl be a good size then i have to take a different needle - this one makes me ovulate (i think) then its hubbys turn to give a sample then it is put in me and fingers crossed.

Hope i made sence if anyone wants to know anything please ask im more than happy to share :)