LTTTC Two Week Wait - Sept to Oct

HI Ladies in waiting,
Can I ask if you are taking estrogen tablets? I am on a medicated cycle so am taking estrogen tablets and progresterone pessaries. I am really struggling with the estrogen as they have given me wicked diarrhea which I am susceptible to for other bowel complications. Problem is I have now lost 4kgs in last 2 and a bit weeks because of it. I don't have much to lose so it is not a good thing. :redface: I have treid all my normal tricks to settle it (eating crakcers, rice no dairy), and live on mega doses of immodium.

Has the estrogen upset your tummy??
I rang my clinic to ring my DR to see if I can go off the estrogen, but they suspect the DR won't be keen on that. Any thoughts? :doh:

Hi Kiminmellie....thats a great result you got with the amount of eggs and no OHSS.
I had 26 eggs retrieved and only 10 survived to freeze, and they cancelled my embryo transfer as I was in the high risk category for OHSS. Well I did get it in the moderate stage and was very sick, but very disappointed that they wouldnt let me go ahead with the transfer.I felt like I was robbed of a chance. I am now in my 2nd cycle which is a natural FET, and have only 1-3 days to wait for my result. My cycle has been messed up this month, so Im sort of neutral as to whether I could be pregnant.I had high hopes and now Im feeling a little deflated :dunno:
Jen....welcome: Id love to hear about any symptoms you may have in you 2ww.
Im feeling a little under-informed after reading everyones posts regarding embryo quality..I think I will be demanding thorough answers from my clinic this week as to what my embryo quality and processes etc are...I dont think: 'they are high quality' cuts it anymore. Also Ive been reading about the freezing methods and am hoping that that is not killing my embryos on thaw...
Is anyone else using IVFAustralia?

Me 32 fertile
DH 37 4% morphology
1st ivf/ICSI stim cycle-26 eggs, 19 fertilised, 10 survived,4xd2 frozen, 6xd5 frozen
NO ET due to OHSS
2nd cycle- FET with d5 blastie - (1 out of 4 survived thaw)
:2ww: only a few days left

Hello all

Jen - that does not sound good! Immodium really only good in small doses, so I'd have a tantrum with your FS and sort that out. Poor you. Hope it gets better soon.

Everyone - hello

AFM. I'm feeling distinctly unpregnant. I know it's only 8 days pIUI and I'm unlikely to be feeling anything but.... I had the most stabbing pain yesterday - has anyone ever had that? Do you think it could be implantation pains? Are there such things? Am I just inventing medical situations to match my situation????

Just had lots of people for lunch which is odd without drinking much. I've sent them all out to walk the dog and I've cleaned up already, dishwasher on, audio book playing and I'm off to lie on the bed for 20 mins. I must be getting old ;)

baby dust to all xx

Hi Londonmiss...
Dont lose hope yet.There is such a thing as implantation pain which usually occurs 7-10 days post ovulation. You can have spotting and cramping for implantation. Where was the pain?
I was hoping the same thing as you the other day, but then deflated thinking I must be getting AF as spotting happens to me usually before AF arrives. On 9dpo and 10dpo I had stabbing pains/side stitch on my right side between my hip and ribs, with some mild cramping in my belly and pelvis. I was so hopeful as that sort of pain never happens to me, but my cycle is so messed up this month (im on day35), that I really dont know what to think...
I think tomorrow is my d-day. Im so nervous about waking up to AF tomorrow. If only my body can hang on till wednesday's beta, I know I'll have a good chance :crossfingers:
I was very teary this morning though Im trying to hang in.
You should definitely hang in though, you definitely still have a chance:pink-babydust::bluedust:

oh girls!!!............big hugs to ya. the 2ww is sooo strange...I'm desperate to be part of it, but can't stand being in it...and terrified I won't make it to it..or through it!!

I might not be in it yet...injections start on 6th hopefully...but I'm feeling the same way as you guys! Soooo emotional and teary and we had people around all day, plus have rellies staying and I had 2 drinks all day....NOT like me!!;):redface:

I'll keep and eye on how you both go Londonmiss and Goodvibes. Here's to BT day...:goodluck:

Emerald and Jen...hope you had good weekends....I can't help keeping an eye on how everyone's going in here....I get to officially join in at end of month....for now I'll be the mascot...
give me a 'B'.....give me an 'F'.....give me a 'P'!!!!!:bluecheer::bluecheer::bluecheer:

Hey girls,
Yeah the 2 ww is strange. I am trying really hard not to analyse every symtpom but its hard not to! I had cramps for first time last night. Hope thats not AF coming. I am feeling weird from the hormones, and diarheea anyway so am trying to just get through each day. I took myself off my estrogen medication yesterday as it was making me so sick. I am supposed to stay on it until blood test at least on the 12th. BUt I did lots of reading and it seems the progesterone is most important, so I am continuing on that.

Goodvibes - goodluck with dday today. Im not using IVF australia but i have heard good things about them.

Airline-don't worry about being teary - I think all the medications, esp. estrogen make you feel like that. I have been like that through the whole thing.

Hello KiminMellie & Emerald Star.
Hopefully you guys are getting hit with some sunshine today. :D

Morning ladies. Monday. Walking dog at what felt like 5.55. Yuk yuk yuk. But on the up (?) side, I felt sick whilst I was doing it.... probably just the thought of going to work though. :rolleyes:

Very best wishes for your BT today Goodvibes. :pray: Hope evil witch AF has not appeared overnight and hope you get a BFP!!

Airline - I love having a cheerleader! It's so nice to know that we are not the only ones going through this, and that someone else understands the gibberish/ medical nonsense/ obsessive compulsive tendencies that LTTTC leads you into!

Good morning ladies,
Well as feared,evil AF showed up this morning. So Im out of the 2ww wait :cry:
My beta is not until wednesday, but its pointless because I have a full flow.
Im not too upset today yet,I guess thats because i was crying yesterday (I must have subconsciously known). But nonetheless I think deep down Im distraught and trying to keep strong for both me and DH.
Well, I wish everyone waiting in their 2ww the best of luck :goodluck::pink-babydust:
Ill check in to see some results, and Ill see you all in my next 2ww.
:bfn:

I'm so sorry to hear that. :grouphug:

Hello ladies.

Hi. I'm new here and am on my first day of the second half of my tww. My DH and I have been trying for 12 months (into month 13 now) of ttc with no joy.

I don't know how other women do this. I'm at the end of my tether. We have had all our tests done and the doctors have come up with unexplained infertility. Brilliant.

We've loosely discussed IVF but I don't know that I can put myself through that. How does everybody else have the patience and strength to keep on doing this?

btw: my BBs and nipples are absolutely killing me. Anybody else with this / had this? It makes me want to hope but just the thought of the disappointment I will feel if / when AF raises her ugly head brings me to tears.

Hiya Moonflower. Welcome. We are all quite mad here, it's a medical fact that LTTTC turns you completely mental. Looks like we are dead on in terms of our cycle - I'm due AF on Sunday and BT week wednesday if it hasn't arrived?

As for IVF - you'll probably do IUI first which is less invasive and not as much trouble/ expense so I'd look that up on wikipedia first! It feels less frustrating once you get going on the treatment, or at least I felt like that. The first thing I knew about being pregnant was my BBs/ nipples. I could cheerfully have stabbed anyone who touched them. Poor poor DH. But it is also commonly the drugs, if you are on pregnyl, that will make your BBs big and a little tender. Good luck though, it could be a really good sign.

I'm working today as you can tell!

Just a quick email to introduce myself to the TWW ladies.

My name is Sonia and hubby and I are currently doing our first ivf/ICSI TWW. At EPU they got 5 eggs which all fertailsed. By day 5 (last Wed) I had 3 good looking embryo's, put one in and froze the other two.

It is now 5dpt and I can think of nothing else except for doing a HPT. I know it is probably to early but I am sending myself batty wondering.

Sending baby dust to all!

Sonia

Thanks for that LondonMiss. Looks like we are cycle sisters right now. :) I too have AF due on Sunday. I'll be prayin' and hopin' for you too now.

Was begining to think I was the only impatient and mental one. I don't personally know anyone else who has had trouble conceiving. When the doctor asked me on my first visit is anything ran in my family, I said "Yeah. Babies." :) I'm an aunt to 15 so none of my in-laws know what I'm going through. It'll be nice to have some support here.

Right now I'm making the most of our public holiday. I'm supposed to be working but meh. Can't get up the mental engery. I'm just a little too fixated on the possibilities right now! ;) How do you cope?

And hi Sophie. I'll start crossing fingers and toes for you too. :)

These are just my coping techniques for 2ww, sure other's will dib in.

1. If you feel like POAS, go for a swim first. If you still want to do it, then do it.
2. Do not spend 8 hours per day on the internet looking up new and terrifying pregnancy related symptoms. You can easily convince yourself that you might be carrying the Elephant Man if you read too much google. And you might get sacked ;)
3. Have things to look forward to - consolation prizes - if it doesn't work. A really fancy night out, great wine, weekend away that kind of thing.
4. Avoid all christenings, birthdays of anklebiters, bah mitzvahs etc. I'm stressed enough already without tactless smug mothers saying she just had to sneeze to get pregnant.
5. I knit during the TWW. I've nearly finished a small person sized blanket. I keep telling people its for a friends baby but I think I have invested enough emotion in it to keep it for myself - whenever I need one.
6. Church (or temple or whatever takes your fancy) might help?

And chocolate :D

:lol: Love it. Love them all LondonMiss. Gr8 list. Particularly the consolation prizes - why all the hope and heartache for nothing, right? A little self tlc would definitely help. Church was helping until last week when I was told by very good friends of ours there that they are now pg with their first. I'm happy for them, but was sadder for myself. Which I think is selfish. And like your point No 4, I've been avoiding all ankelbiters for the last few months.

But you may know that some days are better than others. I'll keep on keeping on. I actually feel better already knowing that I'm not on my Pat Malone. So thanks. Really. :)

I love the idea of you knitting. I used to knit when I was a wee girl. Perhaps a good way to start it up again would be to do some squares and make a blanket. Hope you don't mind if I steal that idea.

I'd be delighted - you can race me!!

Hi Moonflower, welcome. I have just finished my 2ww as AF arrived today :crying:
Regarding IVF you have to decide how much time you can handle waiting before you jump into it. I had been ttc for 12-13mth before seeing fertility docs to get options. I had all my tests done plus more, and was found fertile, but my DH was found to have poor morphology which they later told him he'd been born like that and could do nothing to improve!! We are now up to month 15 or 16 of ttc...Ive lost count.
They told us we could still fall pregnant naturally but it was a waiting game, and we couldnt take it anymore. I did lots of research (internet reading of course:D) and decided IUI's were useless for us.So we told the doc we wanted to go straight to ivf/icsi as that was our best and fastest route. The doc agreed. And I have to say that Im glad we did, because I'm still not pregnant, and anything else wouldve taken longer.
My best advice is to read as many medical reports and people's personal experiences as you can find, and decide whats best for you.You may still obviously fall pregnant naturally,it just depends on how long you are willing to wait. And Ive heard of people signing up for ivf then falling pregnant before they start!
My personal experience wasnt that great on my 1st stim cycle, but I dont ever regret trying as I always look at the big picture, and I would do anything to have my own healthy baby. Its a very emotional trip... and now I tell myself its only another few weeks to try again. Luckily I still have frozen eggs so I can go on a natural cycle again this month, I assume. But I know that someday I will have to do a stim cycle again and Im ok with that.
Im also glad to have found some support on this site as well, and will report back after docs visit this week with updates. I hope someone has some good fortune soon with a bfp...sending :stickyvibesboy:

Me 32 fertile
DH 37 4% morphology
1st ivf/ICSI antagonist stim cycle-26 eggs, 19 fertilised, 10 survived,4xd2 frozen, 6xd5 frozen
NO ET due to OHSS
2nd cycle- natural FET with d5 blastie - (1 out of 4 survived thaw) :bfn:today

hi girls.

I'm back for more punishment. had FET last weds, and feeling OK. BT is due next monday, but going to ring the nurse and ask if i can have it on friday, which she let me do last time. Will still be 14 dpo. Cant stand the though of a weekend of torture. If AF is going to arrive she will be here before then anyway as i am pretty regular.

I am sure when i call the clinic they type my number into the computer and the screen starts flashing with "EMOTIONALLY UNSTABLE. DO NOT UPSET!!" after the last cycle when i called them and burst into tears. They even ask me how i am now all the time, which they never used to do! He he. I might work it a bit!;)

Had some spotting yesterday which was 9 dpo, it wasnt really blood, more like brown discharge (sorry TMI) and only enough to say, cover a twenty cent piece. I dont think i would have even noticed it if i hadnt been wearing white knickers. So i'm hopeful it's implantation, but who knows. Never assume anything in this game!!

So, good luck to all :pray::pray:

I was naughty this morning, the waiting was sending me batty so I did a HPT, it was negative and I know that there are many reasons for this but I am feeling a bit down. It is only 6dpt so I don't know why I did it.

JayeJaye - I had a ET on Wed too, my first stim cycle. My BT was set for Monday as well but I rang my nurse and begged her to change it to Friday as it is my sister's Hen's Party on Saturday night and if it is a negative at least I can have a drink or two with her.

Baby dust to all

Sonia

Hey everyone,
I'm really sorry this cycle didn't work out for you Goodvibes. YOu sounded like you are coping well, I hope you are still feeling ok.

Hey JayeJaye I had FET the same day as you, cunning trick to bring the BT forward. I had some spotting yesterday too.

Sonia, Moonflower, Londmiss, hope you guys are travelling well too.

I wish I could eat yummy things like chocolate. My diarrhea is still really bad so am on a diet of rice, steamed fish, crackers and all things bland. yuk! :shakehead:

If you had a 5 day blastocyst transferred do you assume that ovulation was 5 days prior?

Good evening ladies.

LondonMiss, I'm going to go out and buy some knitting needles and wool this weekend. Watch out! ;)

Goodvibes, sorry to hear about AF. You've given me some extra things to think about, thank you. I've been doing as much reading at any one time as I can handle and then I set it aside for a while. The positive thinking and attitude of all the ladies here is really helping me. Thanks everyone! :)

Ladies, I'm so glad I landed here. I've thought I was on my own for so long and here you all are, going through the same stuff (or more than me ivf'ers). Wouldn't it be great if PMS symptoms and pregnancy symptoms were different?!! I'm so impatient! I'd better work on that. :redface:

Here's to staying sane and babies for all! :pray:

hey girls, i am still hanging in there. no AF as yet, and not a sympton in sight. i rang the clinic and tried to get in friday but she was having none of it, saying she would hate to give me a false positive! So monday it is with a torturous weekend. :rolleyes::rolleyes:. If AF hasnt arrived by then its all good as she is due tomorrow and always on time.

This is the longest she has been away with a blasty transfer (12 dpo) so i am quite hopeful, although that makes me think i have a long way to come down if it doesnt work! I have decided to POAS on saturday morning, which will be 15dpo.

impish73, good luck on friday.!

jen72 - yes if you had a blasty transfer, ovulation was 5 days prior. eg. my transfer was last weds, and i ovulated the friday prior. I also had diarrhea last sat, which wasa a pain because we were at a wedding!! so many trips to the bathroom!!

moonflower - good luck with the knitting, sounds like a plan.

the very very best of luck to you all. :bluedust::bluedust:
jane.

morning all! I am getting extremely bored with TWW now. You know that advert that says "why can't Monday's be shorter?". Well I think time expands in the 2ww... I could have conquered the world in what seems like about 4 millenia.

I'm feeling so unpregnant it's untrue. I had a small glass of wine last night after working all day, then swimming, then walking the dog, doing the washing and the ironing. I decided that if MIVF say it's ok... then..... ;) and I have to say I went to bed v relaxed and happy.

Until the F-ING mouse started up... it was in the kitchen, then I bought a box plastic box to put the dog food in (having, David Attenborough style, identified this as the food source), it's now taken up home in the wall of the bedroom. I'm a v strict vegetarian and the thought of killing anything horrifies me*, but I'm afraid it's going to have to go. And I doubt I'm going to able to present it with a rational argument that it really ought to leave otherwise I will kill it, because it's a mouse. Anyway, I'm rambling. But I've had no sleep and am now v ratty.

On the upside, I'm studying today not working and the sun is shining in Melbourne. How are you all ladies?

* I should note this does not apply to ants. But I can't rationalise the morality of this...!!

Bloody hell just typed in a huge response and the ether ate it. Blast.

Anyway: highly condensed version. Hello all! I am feeling v unpregnant. I don't think it's my month. But, the sun is shining, my dog is lovely (she wants food) and today is a study day not working.

Moonflower: I've done 14 squares now mostly plain knit some patterned but they are full of holes, in sort of hippy arran wool (on v big needles) in cream, pale grey, a dark marl grey and a dark purple (hedging my bets for WHEN I have a baby - ha ha not IF).

Hey ladies,
I dont feel pregnant either.. bummer. NOt that that totally outrules the possibility.

Are you guys taking progesterone and estrogen?? Do they make you feel weird?

;)

oh ladies I'm sorry you're not all feeling 'pregnant'. Londonmiss you made me laugh with the whole mouse thing! And as for your dog being 'lovely - she wants food' SHE'S A LABBY!!!! course she does! LOL!!! just like my gorgeous dustbin.

chins up, and I hopw tojoin you soon.

Good evening Ladies.

Hope you are all travelling well today. Sorry to hear so many of are feeling decidedly unpregnant. I'm in that same boat. I was pretty hopeful on the weekend what with the unbelieveably sore bb's and nipples and then there was a very little bit of spotting over a couple of days. But they are much better (still a little sore but I can touch them) now. And I'm getting some very mild cramping. DH and I cuddled last night whilst I had a bit of a cry. Sure, I'm preempting Sunday but that's how it was for me last night. Feeling better today and back to being hopeful. Only not as much. Safer that way.

Have any of you gals ever had spotting without being pregnant? I'm wondering as this is the third time it's happened to me since we've been ttc but never before. Perhaps it's an age thing?

LondonMiss, good luck with that mouse. I hate getting no sleep. I feel your pain. Thanks for the knitting tips. Your colour scheme sounds great. I'm not sure what I'll go with. I think I'll pick some bold colours over pastel. Small children react well to bold colours. Or perhaps that's only for learning stuff and if it's the Wiggles!! ;)

Jen72, I'm not taking anything yet. I'm still unsure about going with any assisted stuff or ivf. Not sure I'm up to that challenge just yet. DH and I are going to make that decision in the next couple of months.

Wishing you all a happy and stress free day tomorrow.

Ni-night! :)

but I couldn't resist...

I took a HPT! I'm due for a blood test tomorrow. I've been on pregnyl, so I know that will produce a false positive. I don't even want to post about it in case I jinx it all.

Until the last couple of days, I didn't think I had a chance of being pg. I didn't feel like I was/am. I didn't have sore bbs (as often as I poked them - not sore in the slightest, and I wasn't seedy.

Then the cold I got over last week (two fully healthy, clear days) came back... what's up with that I thought?! And in the evenings, my boobs have been sore to poke. and on Friday morning, I was at the traffic lights when my mouth started watering like I was gonna be sick (which I passed off as being hungry). Periodically in the last few days, my mouth waters similarly (but without the strong 'sick' feeling), which I chalk up to various things. My tummy has been slightly crampy... which makes me think it's not going to happen. And I'm tired more than normal, and at different times.

Sooo... I argue with myself all day about not cheating & not having a hpt because I know how it feels to have a false pos. Absolutely horrifying. And I just caved...

AND IT'S A BIG SOLID PINK LINE!!! (next to the control line... of course!) :dance::clap:

My last hpt (last transfer) was a very pale squint-to-see-it line, but this is almost as good as the control line. I also know that I will have hormones from my last pregnyl injection (Sunday). My test is tomorrow, but the results won't come in until Friday, so I'll be doing another HPT on friday morning.

I have already told DH & mum that I don't think I'm pg. In fact, I still don't 'feel' it. So I'm not going to tell DH or mum until the bloods come back. I don't want all of us having broken hearts.

So please please please send me your stickiest vibes.

Londonmiss - you can get 'humane traps' that catch the mouse & don't kill it. I don't really know what you're meant to do with it afterwards because if you let it go outside, it will come back inside anyway. And I reckon you will have a bunch of mice...

Incidentally - I'm glad I'm not the only one not feeling pg. I've been day dreaming all fortnight about how there should be some kind of light, or blue dot on your skin that should tell you straight away or not, so you can stop worrying & get on with life.

I too have buckled despite earlier promises and done an HPT. Big fat lousing stinking miserable can't even manage a pale line negative. I knew it. Not my month. Pants pants pants.

entreat...that sounds positive!!!! pardon the pun. fingers crossed.

londonmiss...i'm sorry the result was negative...but not over till fat lady sings and all that. won't make you feel better I know, nothing will, but thinking of you and hugs. :hug:

HI ladies,
Congrats Entreat, thats very exciting hopefully your bloods confirm a BFP for you. :dance:

Well, as for me I think I am out of the game, AF arrived today. I shouldn't be surprised as I have been so sick with insane diarrhea, however I still had hope, as you always do...

Its very sad. Not sure if I am up to the challenge again after 3 goes at it. Might have to have a break.

I will check in on you guys and hopefully there are more BFPs to come!

Jen - so sorry to hear that. Very, very best of luck for next time.

Ladies - blood tests tomorrow/ saturday - also very best of luck. Hope all goes well and hoping for at least one BFP!!

I've forgotten who said their boobs ache, I highly recommend a sports bra. It's wonderful after a normal one!

Ladies - hello! I'm officially joining you in the 2WW thread, feels a long time coming! And apologies in advance - i'm not going to attempt to do persies yet until i've read through it all properly and caught up with who is doing what.

AFM - had 2 embies transferred yesterday and am already googling the effects of chocolate on unborn babies (yeah I know it's a little early, but... :redface:)

Hope everyone is doing well. Sending :bluedust::pink-babydust: to all.

cheers,
lise xx

Hey girls. Am still going. 13 dpo. Cant believe it really and I definitely feel something different from the last 3 transfers. I know I said I would wait until Saturday but I think tomorrow morning will be my limit and thats 14dpo anyway which should be ok.
Jen72 - sorry to hear about AF arriving. I hope you're ok.
Entreat - good luck with BT tomorrow.
Lise - welcome and goodluck!


Good luck to all those testing over the next few days. Monday seems forever away for me!

jane.

Had my blood test, results tomorrow. Bought another HPT for tomorrow morning... :D

Fingers crossed for all. Xx

Hello ladies!

Jen72, I'm sorry to hear about AF. I hope the diarrohea clears up soon and that you get back to normal. Good luck. I hope you get to recharge on your break. :hug:

LondonMiss, I hear what you're saying. I hope my downer yesterday didn't make you second guess yourself. I would like to send you positive baby vibes. And a cheer for good measure. C'mon. It's you and me on Sunday. We can do it! AF is NOT welcome this month! :bluecheer:

Lise, my s-i-l ate chocolate during her pregnancy and now her son (4yrs) just LOVES chocolate. See? It's a good thing!! ;)

Good luck to all those testing tomorrow and getting results! And for all the rest, happy, stressfree, baby vibes to you.

Jay/ Entreat - good luck for your tests today. Let us know as soon as you have your results.

Moonflower - thanks. I did another test this morning, and it was BFN. I'm really missing our dog (she's gone to the vets for a couple of days) and the two things together rather sabotauged (sp?) our evening together. I had a good blubb and got it out my system.

Physically I feel very mixed. I had a massage yesterday and the lady who does it told me off for leaving it so long. Told me I was stressed - ha! Any of you could have guessed that!! My bbs hurt and I'm tired, and my stomach is still cramping on and off. I don't feel pregnant though. But only two days to go for us! Thank God. Just two more days... I'm sure this classes as mental torture.

Hoping for some good news today! :lol:

I feel wretched. Just had my blood test this morning but it will only confirm what I know all ready. I took a hpt at 4am this morning and it was negative, not even a pale line. I can't stop crying. This is only our first time doing ivf and all ready I'm a wreck. I greatly admire the couples strong enough to be able to go through this time and time again. How do people cope with all the grief?

Wishing you all sticky vibes and baby dust.

Sonia