TTC & Taking Clomid &/0r Metformin ~ December 2006 #3

so sorry to hear you had to go back to work ktgirl! a four day weekend is awesome, but i'm so glad i got an extra day!! i have every second wednesday off and turned out to be today (although i think i might have taken today off anyway to take care of DH - he's been in bed since half nine last night - poor baby! :hugs:). i have been talking to one of the guys at work today, and he said it's so quiet he's struggling to stay awake, so i'm sure i'm not missing anything. i go back tomorrow, but only for the one day - have an extra holiday day on friday - yay!!!

hope you're feeling a little better this afternoon. thanks for the get well wishes for DH - might have to drag him out of bed soon, otherwise he'll never sleep tonight!

Briggsy's girl - I hope you test soon and reveal your BFP to us all. Fingers crossed for you.

KtGirl - so sorry about your scan. Lots of hugs coming your way. Please dont feel disappointed in yourself. Im sure that this short break will do you the world of good and you will have so much luck coming your way as soon as you start TTC again. Shame that your back at work, i have till the 8th jan off. DH however, goes back on 2nd so will be a little bored at home alone.

Well i am on CD3/Day 2 of my first clomid cycle. Shouldnt be saying this as i will probably jinx myself but have not had any side affects (read the possible ones out to DH and as a typical male he tells me that the mood swings are one that he has picked up on LOL) scary thing is not sure if he was joking or not haha! Anyway, so i have got a little while yet till anything exciting starts happening, just want AF to leave now so i can get into the BDing.

One question i do have for my fellow clomid ladies is, my FS asked me to come back and see him on CD25-27 however that falls on Thursday-Saturday and he is only available for appointments on Mondays and Tuesday's, should i go and see him on CD23 or CD29? What exactly do they look at at this appointment? He asked me to bring my BBT chart does that mean he just wants to check that or do they get you to have a blood test or something? so CD23 or CD29?

Walking Art, i have had three cycles of clomid and had to have a BT day 21 each time. maybe you need to call FS and check whether they want you to come in early or late based on what they're looking for. i think all of them look for something different! would be so much easier if they all tested for the same thing at the same time - at least then we could give each other honest advice!!

as for testing, i'm not sure whether i want to - kind of trying to keep hope alive (silly i know, but...). i've been feeling seedy all day today, but with DH being crook, i'm waiting to see what happens - i'm really hoping that i'm feeling unwell for good reasons, but i just don't know at the moment, and don't want confirmation in the form of a BFN.

Just popping in to see how ktgirl got on. So sorry things have turned out this way for you Kate. Sometimes it can just be so cruel. I know it's hard, but try not feel down on yourself. It isn't your fault.

I'm sending you plenty of hugs and best wishes :hugs:

ktgirl,
Really sorry to hear that your ovaries are being naughty.... it is so annoying. Maybe a break isnt such a bad thing. How long have you guys been trying?I'm actually considering giving up all together. This was my first clomid cycle. Dont know if i ovulated or not,huh-dont even know when i'm due(erratic cycles). the whole process is very demanding and tiring. so this month i think i have wasted time and money on grapefruit juice,elevit,green tea,pre seed, bedding on command( as per chart) and staying laying down for a while after nookies. Too scared to do a hpt cause i'm sure it will be a bfn;and they just shatter me,so like the other girls say Denial is my best buddy. my body has played awful tricks on me this month with sore boobies and tiredness, but the last three days i've had af like pains;so figure she isnt far away. Better to save my sanity and the pregnancy test and not use it.Its tormenting having hpt in the house. Its like when your on a diet and get told not to eat junk;what do you want to do-eat junk....
Kate i really hope youre not feeling to down ,and don't mind me babbling. if you are taking time out does that mean you'll disappear from hear?boohoo....Hang in there mate.

Thanks ladies for all of your kind words. It really helps to have people like you here to help me through things like this :grouphug: Big group hug for all.

Pollyanna- I won't be going anywhere. Although I won't have any updates of my own I will still be here to support you and the other beautiful girls in here. We have only been trying for just over 12 months so not that long really but I knew I had PCOS before we started trying so pretty much went straight to the FS for treatment. BTW you can babble all you like it helps to get it all off your chest. Good luck waiting a little longer before you test it is a killer trying not to test isn't it. Maybe you could ask your DH to hide the test somewhere that you don't know about and then perhaps you won't be so tempted??? Hope you hang in there for a little longer :hug:

Smudge- Thanks for coming in to check on me and sending me big hugs. How have you been anyway chicky?

Walking art- You lucky thing to have until the 8th off. I am sooo jelous. Glad to hear that you haven't had any side effects yet from the clomid. I was the same it didn't really effect me at all. Good luck this cycle gorgeous hope it is the one and only that you have to do. I would call your FS and ask them which day they would like you to come in on. As Briggsy's girl said they all tend to monitor different things at different times so they would be the best judge of when is best for you to go in.

Hi to all of the other special ladies in here.

Mornin girls

just dropped in to check how everyone is going and to let you know DH convinced me this morning to take the HPT - came up with a BFN - but i guess in my heart i knew that was going to happen. i felt disappointed, but not devastated, so there had obviously been a fairly big part of me that figured the clomid hadn't worked - AGAIN!

as much as it was hard to get the BFN, at least now we know where we're at - Jan 17th and it all starts in earnest - have to have a blood test and then on to the synarel (i think that's the name of the nasal spray stuff) and probably injections from the start of Feb.

feeling a little under the weather today - my darling nieces decided to share their cold with me over christmas, and DH has come good, but i think he's shared a few of his germs with me too - not happy! Hope everyone else is having a great day (well, better than mine anyway!)

Hi girls,
Yes as expected .I got through without wasting a test as af showed up this morning. Not too devestated as i new she would. The pain is quite bad. Thats the depressing bit , the feeling crappy. Now i just need to decide if this is it;or do i keep plodding along?
Probably best to not make any decisions at the moment given that i'm so hormonal.

Pollyanna - so sorry AF arrived today - dont go making any rash decisions today - hormones are so not your friend when it comes to making big decisions!

Pollyanna- :hugs: So sorry that AF arrived. That nasty witch. Prob not best to make any decisions today. Give yourself time to accept that AF is here and then maybe think a little more about what you are going to do.

Briggsy's girl-:hug: Sorry it was a BFN for you but remember it is not over until the witch shows up. Hang in there precious.

Thanks ktgirl - i haven't entirely given up hope - just being realistic. i guess i'm just waiting now for next month so that i can start with the injections and stuff. it's only a few weeks more waiting, so i'm sure i'll cope!

Hi everyone :hello:

briggsy's girl, are you sure you are out of the race? Glad your DH is feeling better..boys can be tricky patients!

pollyanna, sorry the witch has reared her ugly mug. See how you feel in a couple of days huh.. I know when I am really down in the dumps, I tend to pick up a little each day. Hope you are feeling better soon.

Thanks ktgirl, I downed my last clomid tab on Christmas Day so starting to feel a bit better. I'm not a fan of the clomid. I was only on 50mg but I had hot flashes alot and found they gave me a few headaches. That along with a bit of paranoia even, I felt that it amplified my emotions but I never realised it at the time. Only in hindsight I think "Gee I really reacted to that" etc etc
Anyway - over the clomid. Start the Opk's tomorrow and hopefully ovulate New Years..that is the plan anyway! Have our IVF appt on 2nd Feb so looking forward to that. Until then it just feels like we are playing around. Batting in the dark so to speak. I'm only 31 but we don't want to spend another 2 years trying for our first baby. We want a family so we are starting to get a bit anxious if you get me.

I hope you are feeling a bit better today sweets, thinking of you. :hug: Are you still planning to have a long break

Looking forward to 2007 and turning a new chapter - miracles do happen!

:bluedust: :bluedust:

Briggsy's girl - so sorry to hear about the BFN but as ktgirl said its not over till AF is in the door! Glad to hear that DH is better but shame that you got everyones germs. hope you feel better really soon.

Pollyanna - AF is such a cow!! Damn witch! Hope she goes away quick and takes her stupid pains with her.

Well I had my hair done today so feeling very pretty! Hahahaha Went shopping with DH but could not stand the queues in most of the large stores so didnt buy much instead we went Health Insurance shopping. Got so much info to look at but none of it makes much sense and they all look the same to me so not sure what we are going to do. i mean we already have insurance but considering getting better hospital cover and maybe a couples package since i will be pregnant really soon (wink wink)! Feeling very lost at the moment when it comes to all the comparisons.

Hope everyone is having a great day! xxxx

P.S Almost forgot to ask this, probably another one of my stupid questions that cant be answered but anyway, when should i start using OPK? My info on clomid tells me that i "should" ovulate on CD14 but im sure that this must vary from person to person or do you definately always ovulate on CD14 with clomid? Also any suggestions on OPK brand much appreciated.

thanks ladies - i'm not sure whether we're completely out of the race, but i have a feeling that the clomid just isn't doing anything for me - i guess some people respond to it, some don't. i know it's not over til AF rears her ugly head (or til i get the results from my day 21 BT), but i'm trying to be realistic and not have (too many) false hopes

i have decided that 2007 is just around the corner, and it's going to be our year (for all of us on this forum, not just me!) - i'm thinking positive (in every sense of the word) and looking forward to moving onto the next step.

It is our turn ladies. This year is nearly old news and we'll be onto a freshy, nice & positive. What a lovely group of belly buddies we could be!

Walkingart - ask away, we can only offer our best.. I don't think there are any definates with clomid (as with any other drug!) but I'm pretty certain CD14 is text book for ovulation on 1 28 day cycle.
My FS instructed me to start the OPK's on CD 13 for 5 days. I got a positive (darker than control line) on CD16. My FS also supplied me with OPK's - Seratec brand. Not sure if the brand has any impact. Maybe check out the OPK, HPT threads for more info unless our lovelies can offer some advice.

Good luck, let us know how you get on

:hello:

Ktgirl, so sorry about the uss and too many follies. Who knows though, now those ovaries are awake... Sending you hugs, and admire you for taking a break

Pollyanna, sorry AF showed up-hope she's soo leaving

Briggsy, hope AF stays away-fingers crossed. You're right, we have to be positive to get BFP's in 2007!!

Walking Art, I was having short cycles-usually positive OPK D11, suspected ovulation D12 prior to clomid, but on my last cycle-first with Clomid-I didn't get a positive OPK until D13 (and one follicle ready to pop on USS), and suspected ovulation D14 (although my progesterone showed the follicle either didn't release, or was a scrambled egg!!). Worth stocking up on OPKs!
As for me, finished last clomid 100 today, CD6. Almost feel like we're going thru' the motions till we see fertil spec again at end of Jan, and see where we go next.

Hi to everyone else
Milly B

Hi girls,

Smudge- Glad you are feeling ok and getting excited about your IVF appointment. I guess it will alll come around pretty quickly. But lets hope you don't need to go to that appointment ;)

Walking art- Everyone is different as to when they O on Clomid. I always O late around Days 18-19 and I was taking clomid between days 2-6. So don't just BD around day 14 just in case leave your options open there.

Millyb- Good luck this month with your clomid cycle. Lets hope just like smuge tht you won't need that FS appointment and you will get your BFP before then!!!

Briggsy's girl- I am still praying for you. Hang in there girl :pray:

I'm back! I have missed everyone so much! It's a bit hard to do personals as I've been gone so long and there's been so much happening, but I have read everything!

Christmas for us was a bit depressing... our first without Grandma so the big family thing was much quieter than normal. I was also getting upset with seeing everyone gushing over my three and a half year old nephew! But I did manage to catch up with the friends who had their baby two weeks ago... I was upset at the time, but I fell in love with him as soon as I saw him! I got lots of cuddles and coped better than I thought. There's yet more people praying for us - I shared a little of what the past year has held for us (I never really thought of it as a crap year until then, when my friend labelled it as one - I'm now looking forward to a better one in 2007 - it surely can't get worse!) and the support we have gained from them is amazing.

I kept taking my temps while we were away, and the details are stored as memos in my phone - I'll get around to updating my chart soon! I actually feel a bit naughty - never before have DH and I ever BDed while staying with my parents except for the odd time when we find ourselves at home alone... but very carefully and very quietly we did a couple of times while we were away! :oops: I actually felt like a kid sneaking around and hiding from my parents again! I doubt very much that anything will come of it as the one thing I can see from my temps is that they are very, very low.

Pondering starting provera now so I can be just starting AF when we next see the specialist... but it did a number on me last time, and I'm really not looking forward to it, so I kind of feel like I should be a good girl for a change and wait for my instructions.

BW

Welcome Back BW - sounds like your christmas was a bit of a rollercoaster ride emotionally. So happy you were able to spend time with your friends and their new baby. i have a friend who gave birth the week before Christmas - have spoken to her DH and kids, but haven't been able to bring myself to go and visit her and bubs just yet - it's just too hard! we have 4 friends who've had babies in the past month, and 5 more due in january - i'm ecstatic for all of them, but have issues going to see them, especially as none of them know of our struggle TTC. Hopefully i'll be over this cold soon enough so i can go visit the new bub and get myself on the right page emotionally to deal with all these births!

Well done on the sneaking around at your parents place too! it's a big effort to get away with something like that - and feeling young and rebellious like that can be great fun!

as for me, having a bad day today. cold is driving me nuts - so much i want to do and just can't be bothered - went to lie down earlier for a few minutes, DH woke me an hour later, and i still don't feel like i've rested. have been having ongoing crampy pain around my right ovary for probably two weeks now, which is driving me nuts. i've never been someone to get pain when AF is on her way, so not sure what this is - just wish my body would sort itself out properly!

i Have been on clomid this month and am on CD30, i did a HPT yesterday, a a very very faint line came up in the test area, iam wondering if that would be classed as a positive. iam trying not to get to exited, but wondering if this cycle worked.

Calixelaine, when it comes to HPTs, a line is a line - the darkness of it doesn't matter. I know people say they don't give false positives, but I've found out the hard way that they actually DO... It's extremely rare, though.

I would say that this cycle has worked... congratulations!

BW

thanks for the reply BW iam going to the doctors to get it confermed next friday, but its all that i can think about. i know that you have been having a rough time with TTC, and i hope that it all works for you soon. i will drop in and let everyone know what the results of the test are when i get them.

Thanks for wishing me well, calixelaine. 2006 has been a pretty sucky year for me in so many ways... and now that it's drawing to a close, I'm focusing on 2007 being a much better year for us... and it's making me feel a whole lot more relaxed and at peace with the situation we have found ourselves in.

Good luck with the GP appointment! :stickyvibesboy: :stickyvibesgirl:

BW

Hi girls.

Popping in to see how things are with all of you.

WalkingArt. I would use OPKs from about cd11 or 12 through to when you see a +ve result. Always go a few days earlier than you think you will O just so you don't miss the LH surge (which comes before you O remember).

Calixelaine, clomid tends to extend your cycle by delaying O. I found this out when I went for an ultrasound the other week and I was 7w2d as far as my LMP dates, but the scan showed I was 6w2d. Both sonographer and FS both agreed that the clomid was the reason. Hence, even though you might be cd30, you might only be 11 - 14 DPO depending on when you actually O'd. Hence, a faint line is what you would expect if you were very early pg. You should ecpect to see a darkening line in a few days though as HCG levels rise.

BW, sorry to hear that your Xmas was a bit hard. Been there myself and I know how sucky it is. Hugs to you and all you girls that had to suffer in silence through family celebrations.

hi there

have been reading these posts for a couple of weeks now, and trying to get my head around a lot of what's being said. i've noticed quite a number of mentions of clomid altering the cycle so that ovulation occurs later. i haven't been using OPK's or anything to monitor when i have O'd (or even if i have!) - just wondering what time frame most people have noticed being on clomid - i've been on clomid 150 day 5-9 this cycle - am now on CD 32. have been having pain around right ovary since about CD 21 (is much less intense now than when it started). not sure if it's O related or not - had a BT done on CD22 but don't get the results of that til Jan 9th as it is basically just to check whether i'm responding to clomid at all (had no response to clmid 50 or 100 on previous cycles). has anyone else had this experience - from what i've read, most people only get the pain around their ovaries when they actually O or when AF is due - 11 days of pain (even i it's decreasing) seems a little odd to me....

Hi gorgeous ones. Sorry I havae been away. We got unexpected visitors and I haven't had time to post. I have been keeping posted on what's going on but no time to formulate a reply!
Kate: I am sorry those ovaries aren't behaving at the moment. I have faith in them though and they will come through for you my love... sending you lots of :hugs: your way.
Walking Art: Don't rely on ovulating on cd14 on clomid. I ovulated on cd19 this month and the previous clomid month on cd21! I would begin the opk testing on cd 11 or cd12 and continue to test each day until you get a positive. When I am not on clomid I ovulate on around cd17-19 so this months clomid cycle was more usual for me.

Briggsys Girl:: I am with you. This is going to be our year. The year of the PIG is fortuitous and I am sure this time next year we will be smiling at our babies or our pregnant bellies!

Calixelaine: The sore breasts at the end of your cycle are likely due to the higher progesterone level that is evident. A prog level of 40 indicates that ovulation did occur. You must be seeing an ob for the clomid isn't she/he conferring with you about this???
I would phone and speak to her/him.

Smudge: I hope that you are feeling a little better on the clomid.

Pollyanna: Sorry to hear you are feeling down. This next year is going to be IT in here!!!

Me: well I got my period on Boxing Day. I was fine with it I must say. I didn't expect to get lucky first go but feel happy knowing that the environment is all good and the dose is right for me given my prog level being above 50. I am on cd5 today so tonight is my 4th dose of clomid. I am feeling grumpy and out of sorts so I hope that abates soon!
I am believing that this year will be a happy one and that we will all have :bfp: very soon!

I will try and pop in tomorrow gorgeous women. :hug:

I posted on the previous page without reading this one!!!
Welcome back Butterfly. Sorry Christmas was a little sad - I am sure your Grandma was watching over you all... Sorry I missed you before...

It's ok, Deb. :hug: I'm just glad to see you back here! I hadn't seen you around since I got back and I was starting to worry. I'm glad to hear all is well(ish) in your world.

It's strange - I'm finding it remarkably easy to maintain my current happy and relaxed mood (so relaxed I never actually got dressed today, but neither did DH)... in fact, it's so easy I'm almost worried!

I'm still debating the provera... simply because after reading up on the protocols from the clinic, I'll be asked to take two tablets per day for 10 days, when one worked before - and I would think that the higher dose would be likely to cause even more side effects... but DH is very much against me self-medicating in such a way. It's so hard to sit back and just follow instructions, particularly when the instructions haven't yet been given and I'm only anticipating them! Surely when I'm on day 80 something (I'm not paying a huge amount of attention to it) there would be no harm in taking the provera?

BW

Just popping in briefly ;)

BW - surely even if there are protocols, your clinic can individualise depending on your body's response to medications. I know the first time I took provera, I took one tablet for 10 days, AF arrived the next day. The second time, I took 2 tablets for 10 days, and AF didn't arrive for about another 8 days from memory, so more is not always better or more effective. I feel for you hun :hug: Long cycles are so frustrating, especially when they seem to delay TTC when you know you're not pg ... I had a 108 day cycle once which nearly drove me absolutely bonkers!

Thanks, Cherie. It's good to hear from you again!

I'll certainly ask why I'm required to take two tablets per day - it's just worded so aggressively in the paperwork they gave us "you will be required to take two provera tablets daily for 10 days"... It really disagreed with me last time - I know getting to day 80 something is bad, and messes with your head, but I really found the provera worse!

BW

Sounds like a good plan to ask the clinic about it. In my, albeit fairly limited experience, any type of assisted conception is totally different for every person that goes through it - everyone has different types and amounts of medications, different timing, not to mention different medical history and individual response to medications ... it doesn't seem to be a one-size-fits-all area, so hopefully they will be responsive to your need for something a little different from the protocol.

Perhaps it's worded like that to take some of the uncertainty out of the process for people who prefer it to be spelled out, but there still may be flexibility to change the protocols.

Hang in there!

Hi ladies. I have been away for a couple of nights for NYE. Hope everyone had a good one.

BW- Welcome back. What ever you decide to do with the Provera you know we are here and you can come in and rant about it if you are feeling down as we are all ready to listen.

Deb- Thanks for your hugs. Sorry that it was a BFN this time but I am sure your BFP is just around the corner. Good luck with this cycle of clomid.

Hi to all the other lovlies, I hope you are all well.

As for me I don't think I have O yet which is a bit strange so I am having a blood test tomorrow to see what is happening in there. Now I have had time to think about everything I am feeling really comfortable with taking this break. I am going to put 2006 behind me and start a fresh with 2007. I am going to use this time to look after myself a little better, I need to lose a little bit of weight that I have put on in the last 18 months and get my body in the best possible position to start our IVF journey. So I am feeling good. Anyway now I am rambling.

Here is to a positive year for all of us xoxoxo

My procrastination has solved the question of the provera for me - I've left it too late! I'd just finish taking it when we go for the appointment... It felt like ages away, but now that we have hit the 1st, it's only 10 more days to go... wow!

BW

wow, only 10 days to go! that seems to have come along really quickly
at least you'll be ready to start the provera when you go to your next appointment - you'll just have to make sure the doc is aware of how much it affects you so that your dosage is set up appropriately for you!

Hi everyone,

I am new to BB, but have to confess to reading threads over the last couple of days and being so touched and in awe of all of you and the challenges you have experienced. I do wish you all the best and hope precious and magical things are gifted to you.

I was diagnosed with PCO's when I was seventeen, given courses of Provera to bring on AF, but other than that, wasn't a big deal, because I didn't want to have babies or anything like that, and not having AF regularly was convenient, I got to choose when it was. However, things have changed considerably, apart from growing up, and being twelve years later, and meeting and marrying a wonderful man, I do want to have at least one baby. Any way......(I get carried away sometimes).

We have been off the pill since August and TTC. I was put on Metformin to treat PCO's and obviously kept on it of late, to assist with cycle etc. I guess I am just interested in hearing from other ladies with PCO's and their TTC journey and experiences and also any successes with Metformin. Also if I can add anther one in there people with PCO's and who are taking Metformin and who have used Pre-seed and whether this has provided them with any wins.

I look forward to chatting with you all.....Thank you for sharing your story, it is really valued.

Marissa

Welcome, Marissa! It's always nice to have new people join us, although I do hope that you're only with us for a very short time and will be heading over to preggy-land very soon.

For a long time, I was just taking metformin for my PCOS, sadly I found that it didn't do anything to help at all... and clomid looks to be not doing much, either. We are in the midst of switching to a new specialist to hopefully get things headed in a more positive direction.

Although, I do have two friends who can show that the PCOS and metformin thing DOES work! One tried metformin alone as well and got nowhere, but was successful with clomid in addition to the metformin. The other got her BFP shortly after starting metformin - it seems that the metformin alone was enough to make her body ovulate. Both of these wonderful friends of mine will have their bubs turn one early this year.

Afraid I can't help with the pre-seed side of things... I suspect DH's issues are bigger than pre-seed can fix!

Good luck once again.

BW

Welcom Marissa

like BW, it seems meformin/clomid alone are not working for myself and DH, however i have a friend who also has PCOS and had a metformin success story. she had struggled to conceive DD #1, and had gone through injectables and IUI before having success. she started taking metformin before TTC baby number 2, in preperation for speaking to FS, and was pg within a couple of weeks! i guess everyone is different in how they respond to meds, but there are definitely cases out there where metformin alone is enough to kick start your system! i know my FS changes my dosage of metformin after 6 months of gyn prescribing it, telling me dosage wasn't high enough, so i'm now not sure whether metformin/clomid wasn't working for me, or whether i just wasn't on a large enough dosage! i'm definitely feeling more confident on the TTC journey knowing that i'm dealing with a specialist in the field now

Happy new year to all the other ladies in this thread - hoping 2007 brings us all lots of BFP's and that none of us need to remain in this thread too long!

Briggsy's girl, what dose of metformin were you on? And what did your FS change you to?

I'm sure I wasn't on a high enough dose, and I put it up myself for a while... but again I didn't see anything happening and took myself back down to the prescribed dose when I had to do the glucose tolerance test. I thought about going back up again, but I've decided to stop messing about and trust my doctors - I'll wait for instructions when I see the FS again! And yes, that's come around sooo quickly!

BW

HI BW

had been on a dose of 500mg metformin twice daily since July 2006. went to see FS for first appointment early December and first thing he told me was that dosage wasn't high enough, and increased me - went from 500 to 750mg (until i ran out of the intitial script) and now on 850mg twice daily. i'm not sure if it's based on FS preference, type of treatment or just body size or anything (i'm a larger lady!), but it just struck me that he'd said it so quickly. i guess i'm seeing an FS who's been in the business forever - and who has also helped friends become parents - so i have faith that what he says is all good.:lol: He was also very quick to state that he didn't think the clomid was working, or particularly appropriate based on my test results, so has pushed straight onto IUI which, at the time, freaked me out a bit, but which i now see as a very positive step forward. Am just hanging out for the 17th of this month (seems so far away, but i know it's not!) so that the clinic is reopened and we can get started on things in earnest - not looking forward to the possible side effects from the injections, but knowing that it's all working toward having a bubba at the end makes it all worth it!:lol:

in the interim, we're not giving up on nature stepping in (we've been married less than a year, gotta keep up the practice:oops:!!)

If it's any comfort... my acupuncturist also believes that clomid won't work for me, either. She thinks I have very low eostrogen. She thinks that FSH injections will be easier for my body to tolerate than clomid... It will be interesting to see how her thoughts match up with my test results!

From the reading I've done (and the research of a friend who works in obs), 1000mg daily of metformin isn't enough! 1500-2000mg daily is recommended for PCOS. I've still got the whole "is it really PCOS?" thing going... I'm teetering on the very edge of being overweight or in healthy weight range (give or take a kilogram!), have never been overweight, have never had acne problems, skin tags, very little trouble with body hair... I just don't seem to fit the PCOS profile! Sure I do have polycystic ovaries, but I always wonder if there's something else going on as well... which is part of why I haven't bothered increasing the metformin again. Hopefully this FS will have answers for me!

BW