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BW, I agree with what Deb has said also. If after some reflection you decide you really dislike this guy, then it's just not going to work. I still think you should give him a second chance though and get all your results back, see what he has to say. Deb is right, sometimes it just takes time for the relationship and trust to build. It did with me.
You will know the right thing to do for you.
I understand it can take some time to digest things. I hope it was okay for me to be so outspoken... I am thinking of you... :hug:
Princess – Congratulations! Lots and lots of Sticky Vibes coming your way.
Ktgirl – How sweet of DH buying you all those books. Guess you will be very busy over the Christmas break.
BW – So sorry that your appointment didn’t go as you hoped but I hope that once you have processed all the info and taken some time out to think about everything, you will feel lots better. I hope that your next appointment does go better and you do feel lots more comfortable with your FS. Oh and PLEASE PLEASE dont leave us. :grouphug: Also I have done the GTT and its not that bad except take a really good book/magazine because you have to sit there for two hours and cant move.
missbelinda – LOL at your nightmare. ROFL
emmydee – so sorry AF arrived. You will be a jazzy January chick with me. :lol:
Deb, it's perfectly ok for you to be so outspoken. I know that sometimes I need a swift kick in the rear and to be told to get my act in to gear, and I really value the friends in my life who love me enough to do that for me.
I'm currently chatting to a friend in England who's science background is a lot more biological than mine, and she's helped me find some papers that do indicate that varicocele repair is an option.
This doctor is going to find that two can play at the medical papers game!
BW
Thats excellent BW that your friend can help you like that. You put that Dr in his place! LOL
So BW, I'm kind of confused -- what was the end conclusion with your FS? He just wants you to make a decision about IVF and get back to him? I agree with the other girls. To just take it easy, get your mind off things, till you get your test results back...take one thing at a time... I keep jumping ahead of myself, but, when I'm reminded to take things one at a time, it's less stressful/ panicky then thinking ahead to all the potential future scenarios... it's hard to do tho...
Right now, i'm taking a month break from clomid, and am really really hoping to just ovulate. I haven't ovulated on my own for over a decade. Went off BCP last Nov, and did not ovulate until August when I went on clomid. I'm hoping clomid may jump my system, and I'll start ovulating on my own. Anyone ever hear of that happening for someone???
Em,
I o'ed on Met then went to clomid o'ed on that first time concieved, miscarried. then i had a 1 month break after that BUT i had my shortedt cycel ( natural) ever 31 days adn i o'ed on my own.
so my answer is yes i believ the clomid helped my ovaries kick start!!
Emmydee, Yes! Sportychick had a similar situation to yours. She stopped BCP and then had a 100 day horror cycle which was ended with the aid of provera. She then did three clomid cycles without success, then as she was going to be away at O time took a break from clomid and ovulated on her own. On her second natural cycle she conceived. So it certainly can happen!
Sorry for the confusion! There's to be no decision made regarding IVF or no IVF just yet. For now, we're having tests and gathering information (I really should book that GTT!) and things will be discussed further when we return to the specialist.
While the cochrane collaboration paper (2004) we were given indicates that there's no use in repairing varicoceles, an american paper we've found indicates that varicocele repair is definitely useful if various conditions are met - the varicocele can be felt on external examination (it is), the couple has known infertility (we do), the male has an abnormal semen analysis (he does), and the female has either normal fertility (ha!) or a treatable cause of infertility (hopefully!). I guess it all comes down to what the tests show... if I'm going to need IVF anyway, then we may as well just leave the varicocele and do that... but if I can be made to ovulate in a sensible, predictable fashion, then it seems there is a point to having the varicocele repair done.
All I can say is thank God for medical/scientific friends! It's the whole knowledge is power thing - I'm educating myself about the situation and thus gaining power over it. I still can't change anything, but just KNOWING about it is making me feel so much better and less stressed.
BW
I am so glad Butterfly. You are absolutely right. Knowledge is power and this does release stress too. :hug:
Thanks! That makes me feel better knowing that there's hope that I'll ovulate on my own. It's a little depressing tho, just sitting back and doing nothing... oh well...
BW -- According to my friend, and also my mum who is a doctor, the variocole repair is a pretty, minor straightforward surgery. Now that my friend is preggo, I don't think her husband is going in to the doctor for a follow up to see if the surgery helped or not. I wish he would tho, cuz that would be interesting to know... But it must of worked if she got preggo. He had a REALLY low sperm count, and had severely twisted varicoceles on both testicles. Anyway, I don't want to sound like I'm advocating the varicocele repair surgery, because I'm not -- just want to pass on information that I heard.
BW- Sorry to hear that your FS appointment didn't go as well as you had hoped but I am glad that you have had time to sit down and think about all of the information that you were given and also do some of your own research. And as far as the charting thing goes you do what you feel is right. If you feel that it doesn't stress you out and that you benifit from it then keep going. If you find in time is is getting to much then you can have a break from it and see how you go. And don't leave us your knowledge and friendship means a lot to us in here :hug:
Monnie- lol at you nearly bidding on the same books.
Emmydee- I am sorry that AF arrived. See how you go on your months break and then you can reasses the situation. Lets hope that you can O by yourself.
:hello: To all the other ladies. I hope you are all having a great Friday.
Hi all. Had my appt today to follow up on my m/c. I really wanted to know where to go from here and what the plan of attack is. Like BW I'm also a control freak :) So my Dr said that I should have a 2-3mth break from TTC, stay on metformin, keep taking my vitamins, try to lose 10-15kgs, have my BP monitored regularly and come back to see him in 3mths. Then we will start the Clomid again.
He said that my lining wasn't thick enough for the placenta to stay attached to the uterus, but it's not a recurring problem. I asked if this had anything to do with taking Clomid and he said that it's not the Clomid causing the thin lining, it's the PCOS. I asked what would happen next time I fall pregnant and he said they will send me for weekly BT's, and I'll have fortnightly visits with him and depending on the BT's he will see if I need any injections or medication.
So after the appt, my DH and I discussed it - especially the not TTC for 2-3mths and I said that I'm not not going to try.(does that make sense?) The way I look at it, it took 3yrs last time and only worked on our 5th cycle of clomid, so the likelihood of it happening without the clomid is bugger all anyway - so why should I go and spend money on buying condoms lol.
miss B, i really :pray: everything works out for you.
' i myself ams so scared of losing this baby that i prob won't post in preg ann until after 12 weeks. i have pcos too:frown:
how did he know about the lining?? was ther eany sypmtoms??
I assume he said what he did about the lining due to the ultrasounds I had at the hospital when I started spotting at 11w6d. He had the pathology results in front of him from the D&C as well. So I'm not exactly sure how he knew, because I had no indication of anything being wrong with my pregnancy before that time.
I now think that by us moving back to Sydney and me changing FS and GP's during that time that I probably didn't have the best follow-up care when I did conceive as I would have if I had still been living near my old FS and GP.
missbelinda - I hope you and DH have much better luck this time. i agree with the not, not trying! You never know you could have your little miracle and fall naturally and everything go 100%. Good luck! :hug:
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BW I'm sorry that your appointment didn't go so well. I'm sure you will feel alot better about things when you've had some time to process the info you have been given. I understand how hard it is not to stress but we all need to do some thing every now and the to unwind IYKWIM. Anyway I wish you all the best with your tests that you have to have done. Maybe things will become much clearer then.
Belinda I'm glad you have some answers now and you know what your plan of attack is. Good luck to you when you start ttc again.
Ktgirl Happy reading hun. You will be a wealth of knowledge when you've read all of those books. I have everything crossed that you get a bfp this month.
Princess and Monnie How are you 2 pregnant bellies going. I hope All is well for you both.
As for me, started the bd fest so hopefully we are successful this cycle. I'm busy trying to get things packed to go away for 3 weeks.
So if I don't get to pop back in over the weekend I want to wish each and everyone of you a very merry christmas and happy new year and I also hope to see heaps more bfp's when I get back including 1 for me lol. Thankyou all for you support during the past few months too. I really have appreciated it. SEE YOU IN 2007 :hello:
Belinda, I'd be exactly the same way! When told to take a break from TTC there's no way I'd go back on the pill or go and start using condoms... I'd just take a break from charting and all that stuff, just focus on BDing when we want to, not when we feel we have to. I feel as though there's bugger all point in needing to actively prevent a pregnancy, and if a miracle occurs in the meantime - go with it!
Emmydee, thanks so much for the information!
Princess, I'm sending you the biggest truckload of :stickyvibesboy: :stickyvibesgirl: that you can imagine!
Ktgirl, no fear! Regardless of what people have said who don't really know me, or how I think, there's no way I'm leaving this place! Except perhaps if I go away on holidays for a bit... I've gained so much support and knowledge from this forum and the wonderful people here that I'd be mad to leave! You're stuck with me for a good long time yet!
My day so far... at 11:45 I discovered that my acupuncture appointment was at 12:30... and I hadn't showered and had an hour's drive ahead of me. Threw on clothes, raced out with charts and papers everywhere and with the help of some fairly creative speed limits along the way I got there only 15 minutes late. With roadworks, rain and just generally slow traffic to deal with along the way, I thought I did ok!
My acupuncturist is pretty mad at the suggestion we do nothing for the varicocele. Her argument is that if the varicocele is causing a triple factor sperm defect (which it is) and hormone levesl are normal (which they are), then it's likely that the varicocele is the cause of the problem and the repair will improve sperm and pregnancy chances. The friend from England I mentioned earlier was left with the job of chasing articles and summarising them for me. I arrived back to an email containing 8 pages of notes regarding all these different articles we found... The short story is that the varicocele repair is NOT going to be a waste of time in our case. The report we were given that said it would be a waste of time got a right pasting in one of the articles - of the 8 studies mentioned we get down to only 2 or 3 that are relevant in our case. And those studies did find that varicocele repairs DID improve fertility and pregnancy rates. The ones that said no had peculiar groupings of people involved - men with normal SA (of course it's going to do nothing there, they are already normal!), men with subclinical varicoceles (ones that can only be detected with an ultrasound), which are so small and minor that they really aren't going to be causing a problem. The result of all this reading... my DH has a thumping great big varicocele that is obviously causing some problem as his SA is crap but his hormones are normal and his testicles appear normal on ultrasound - there's just the whacking great huge varicocele there!
Poor DH... he's going to arrive home to the news he is going to have surgery...
Oh yeah... forgot to mention that my acupuncturist says that from what she knows of me (and she's seen me weekly for quite a long time now), she's worked out that I am definitely a control freak, and agrees with me - if you can't control it, learn as much as you can about the situation. Keep charting! The unknown factor is going to cause me a lot more stress than the charting is.
So... I wonder how the FS is going to feel about me continuing to chart and us electing to actually have the varicocele repair... I guess at this point, if he's not willing to work with what we decide... then we find a new one!
Wooohoooo! The in-control BW has returned!
BW
BW, well done. I do feel bad for your DH having to have the surgery, but you've obviously done your research and know that it may improve your chances so I say go for it!
Your poor DH though - LOL!! After the year I've had, I feel bad for anyone who has to have surgery.
BBL when I get home from work.
The other thing my acupuncturist said... the varicocele repair surgery for DH is going to be much less invasive and traumatic for him than full-on IVF will be for me.
I guess it's not entirely a foregone conclusion that he will have surgery. If it turns out that I'm going to need IVF anyway, then there's no point him having to go through the surgery - particularly when our clinic doesn't charge extra for the ICSI which may be necessary if his sperm don't improve.
BW
Miss Belinda -- did your FS monitor when you took the clomid? Mine did an ultrasound on me CD 14 (before ovulation), and would measure my lining. The clomid made my lining really thin and uneven. He prescribed me Estradiol to take to make my lining thicker. Anyway, just something to think about. After your month or two break, are you going to start clomid again?
BW -- if your DH ends up getting the surgery, you can assure him that it really isn't bad at all. My friend's husband had it done on a friday (and he had two really severe ones to fix), and he was back to work the next week. She said he was completely comfortable right after the surgery... It is a tough thing for a guy to do tho!
BW- So glad to hear that you are feeling much better now. It really sounds like you have got your head around things and are ready to take this all on now. Good work chicky.
Mako- I will miss you around here for three weeks gorgeous. Hope that you come back with some wonderful news for us. Have a great time, do lots of relaxing and enjoy. I hope you have a wonderful Christmas and a Happy New Year. Who knows what 2007 will bring for us ;)
Missbelinda- Glad to see that you have a plan of attack. I wouldn't be wasting my time with condoms either who needs them when you could have a little natural miracle. If we have another unsucessful cycle this month I have decided that we will be having a break for 3 or so months so I might be joining you there. Good luck with everything.
Hi to emmydee, smudge, flowerchild, willow, monnie, beibei, walkingart,angelbabies3, princess, penny and michelle. I hope I haven't missed anyone. If I have sorry!
At home now so more time for personals!
Belinda - I'm so glad you got some answers as to what happened. We lost our baby at almost 12 weeks too, but unfortunately we don't know what happened (although my FS thinks the 8cm cyst I had on my ovary at the time may have impacted on my pregnancy). Everything appeared perfect at our 7.5 wk scan. I think it would make it easier to cope with if I knew, then I wouldn't be so scared about it happening again in my next pregnancy. Now that they know what happened, I am sure you'll be monitored very closely next time. I hope that is of some comfort to you. Good luck with the not trying to not try! I'd be the same if a break was suggested to us - no way! The sooner that BFP, the better :D Although I've been whinging that I wouldn't mind taking a break over xmas/new year and starting fresh with ivf in 2007. I have taken clomid this cycle but won't be charting or putting much effort into scheduled bding, so it's going to be a break of sorts.
BW - that was my point earlier although I rambled a fair bit - if it's found that you would be better off doing IVF regardless of your DH's varicocele problems, then naturally there's not much point putting him through the surgery and perhaps this is what your FS was indicating (although not verbalising it very eloquently by the sounds of things ;) ). Particularly if ICSI is of no extra cost to you (that's great by the way, haven't heard that at any other clinic). You sound much more collected now that you've had time to process a few things. I'm sure as the next few days pass, you'll feel better and better. Just take it one step at a time and see how you go with your results etc.
Mako - hope you have a fantastic holiday! I'm going away but not until next week, so only two weeks for us. Hope you survive your crazy weekend with all those family xmas gatherings! Have a great christmas and a relaxing holiday and we'll see you back here in the new year (hopefully with a BFP to report!)
Big :hello: to all my other girls.
There's only one problem with all these Christmas smilies... the one beating its head against the brick wall is missing! I shall have to use :throw_computer: instead!
I'm booked in for my GTT on Tuesday morning. So the next three days involve me not only consuming more food than I would normally eat, but it's three days of high-carb food! Not looking forward to it at all!
I gave DH all the varicocele information that I had found today when he got home... he's latched onto the one study where intensive weekly councelling had pretty much the same improvement in fertility as the varicocele repairs! I think that might just be a sign of his worry about having surgery... particularly on such a delicate area! I'm now banned from ever using the word "fixed" in relation to him or his varicocele! :lol:
And then we progressed into the discussion of my stress levels... and how the forums and charting and researching isn't adding to the stress, it's helping give me a feeling of control and empowerment which is reducing the stress - he was fine with that. But then it got to the discussion of what IS causing the stress... my job? so quit! He has such simple answers to everything... Can we afford to live/have babies if I'm not working? Probably not, so find another! Problem, I've always been a teacher, I'm not qualified to do anything else as I never did honours after my science degree, so I could probably only do really crappy lab jobs... New problem - working with toxic chemicals! There's no way I'd want to be TTC while working in a chem lab! Sure, I may not be as stressed as if I'm teaching, but I'd be poisoning my system (I found out the hard way in lab work at uni that I'm EXTREMELY sensitive to chemical exposure - I was always faint in organic labs!) and any child I managed to conceive, so that would be a whole new source of stress.
But, I'm refusing to let this get to me! That's why I'm here venting again. (where's the eye-rolling smilie? - there! :rolleyes: )
I'm not sure if it's because I'm tired and grumpy or he's just grumpy and was trying to watch TV... but it was an altogether unsatisfactory conversation! I'm feeling rather... exasperated right now! But... Tonight's the last night we can BD before the enforced three-day abstinence (DH has to give the sample on Tuesday!), and I very much appear to have fertile goo right now... so somehow I've got to get past this and give DH the surprise of his life by jumping on him later tonight!
BW
LOL BW!! You go get him girl! ;)
I had my 2 hour GTT when I was prg with my DD. I didn't really follow the diet thingo to the letter, it was just too much food and too many carbs. I did my best. My results came back fine (although I did get quite ill during the test and they had to put me in a bed for a few hours! Luckily I had it done at the antenatal clinic at the hospital LOL! Think it was the huge sugar hit that did it) so if you cheat a little, I'm sure it won't affect the results. Just do your best with it.
This is a really quick post before I finish up for the weekend. Chris and I are off to *the big smoke* tomorrow and tomorrow night for Christmas shopping. I am sooo looking forward to some time for us on our own... Shopping is fun when you haven't got the entourage!
Butterfly - YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU are back! Good on you. You have spunk and that will take you places!
Mako - I will miss you around here you beautiful woman. Have a lovely holiday and I hope you come back with news of a BFP! I will be away by the time you return so we won't catch up until mid January. Merry Christmas to you!!!! Stay safe and happy and may 2007 bring all good things to you... :hug:
Everyone else sorry I am not doing more personals. I will not be back until Monday afternoon. Sunday when we return we have Chrissy drinks and Monday my husband is flying out to China in the afternoon. So I will be back after the goodbyes!
Have a gorgeous weekend everyone! :hug:
Have a great weekend Flowerchild!
And Mako have a fantastic holiday! Hopefully you'll get all relaxed, and a BFP will soon be coming your way early 2007!
Well, I'm just starting a new cycle. It feels weird just going on naturally with no clomid. Like you some of you guys, I'm such a control freak, and want to feel like I'm doing SOMETHING to move things along. It's a little difficult to just sit back, take a break, and see how things go...
This a.m., I woke up and took my temp, it was like 5 degrees, I freaked out, then realized I was dreaming, woke up, took my temp, and this time it was like 100 degrees, I freaked out again, then realized I was dreaming again... I finally woke up for real then. I think I need a break from my thermometer!!!! It's such a love/hate relationship. Sometimes I look at it, and I want to snap it in half and kick it across the room. Yet, I'm totally obsessed with it...
Morning ladies,
Flowerchild-Hope you have a great weekend. See you on Monday.
Emmydee- Good luck with your natural cycle who knows you might you surprise us all with some wonderful news. I hope so ;)
Big hugs and kisses to all you gorgeous girls.
Well I am up bright and early to go into the city for a blood test to see how my hormones are traveling. The Dr will call me this afternoon so I will fill you all in later today. After my bloods are done I am heading out shopping for the day with two of my old work friends so I am really looking forward to spending the day with them. I'll catch you all a little later.
Ktgirl - good luck today with your blood test :)
Emmydee - sounds like you are having my temping nightmares lol. I also have nightmares about my toothbrush - must be something about putting things into my mouth.
And no, my FS didn't monitor me with scans when I started clomid last time. I had BTs at CD23 and CD31 and that was only for the first month, once I had ovulated she said there was no need to continue with BT's in subsequent months. Now that I have changed FS and with the m/c it sounds like I am going to have some more monitoring - which is great for a control freak like me.
Deb - Hope you had a great weekend of shopping and spend some quality time with your DH before he flies out.
BW - Good luck with your GTT. I've had it before, so I recommend taking a good book to read in the waiting periods :)
Willow - I agree that sometimes you need to have a break, especially from the scheduled BD. That's what these last few weeks have been like to us, my DH said he doesn't feel like a stud for once hehe. If he ever complains about having to "put out on demand" I just like to threaten him with having to do the sperm analysis again - my Dr told him to abstain for 5 days and he nearly died LOL
Hello to everyone else!!! Hope you are all being good, because Christmas is nearly here!
5 days! My DH only has to abstain for 3... and that was the only reason I could get him to BD last night! The first semenologist that we saw said anything longer than 4 days starts to reduce semen quality as the sperm are sitting about waiting for too long. We really need to BD more often!
It's very quiet here this weekend... hopefully everyone's having a good one... I just feel like an eating machine!
BW
Well the blood test did not go as well as I had planned. Dr called about lunch time to say that it doesn't appear that the injections have done much so far this month :frown: I am a bit annoyed as I had the same amount of injections last month and it worked so what the heck is going on with my body. I now have to drive back into the city again tomorrow to QLD fertility group and pick up more needles and another cartridge for my pen and do some more injections this time at a slightly higher dose. I then have to go back in again on Wed for a scan. Argh this is really starting to get to me. I definitely need a break after this month because this is taking a toll on me mentally and emotionally. I was out with some girlfriends shopping when I got the call from my Dr and burst into tears in the middle of the shops so felt like a real tool. I feel like I have just had enough.
Sorry girls I really needed to vent to you guys because you understand.
I hope you are all having a good day.
:hugs: Ktgirl. If it's any comfort, I got the phone call from my gyn to let me know I hadn't ovulated in the middle of the main street of Rozelle, and promptly burst into tears as well.
We do understand, and we do know all too well how it feels. I hope the higher dose does the trick and that break turns into a nice, long 9 months. :hug:
BW
Hi Ktgirl I'm so sorry that your b/t didn't go as well as you'd hoped. Ipray that the higher dose of injections does the trick for you and you get your much wanted bfp soon sweety. I also hope all goes well on Wednesday with your scan. Try to relax hun( I know easier said than done) but I'm sure your bfp is just around the corner. Make sure you have a fantasic Christmas and I'll catch up with you in a few weeks;)
Hi to all you great women out there. Thank you for your kind wishes. I sure do hope you all have a great christmas. See you all soon:D
:hug: Ktgirl, I am so sorry to hear the news, sometime its hard to know what our body is up to...I had tears in my eyes as to think how much we have to go through just because we are longing to have a family you know...oh well, deep breath... we can do this...fingers crossed for the higher dose does the trick and hope the Wed scan will bring good news for you sweet woman...
I am a bit emotional today, I am not sure if this 1st cycle of Clomid is my month :( I haven't been feeling any different at all, and did a test yesterday, there was a very faint line that I am not sure if it is evaporation line or what, and they say Pregnyl injection also could give faulse reading...anyway we will wait and see...my pregnancy b/t will be next Tuesday.
I hope everyone is having a beautiful weekend, its a glorious day outside. So I think I am going to be positive
Mako, have a wonderful holiday and I will be missing you.
Oh Ktgirl
Sorry to hear about your results. So incredibly frustrating and disappointing.
Just to let you know that I am thinking of you...and always sending you many good wishes.
Take care chickie
Monnie
Argh!!!
It's so strange how I can be completely ok with everything that is going on when I'm at the computer! I'm ok posting on the forums, chatting on IRC or MSN, but as soon as I actually have to talk about what's going on I become a blubbering mess! There's something about verbalising things that completely strips away my ability to cope... I guess that explains why I just wasn't coping at the FS appointment on Thursday.
BW
ktgirl - Pity we can't all order new bodies for christmas, as these ones never do what we ask. I remember my 1st cycle of clomid, when it didn't work and my FS called to tell me when i was about to go on my lunch break and I just had to leave so I could break down in tears. It is such an emotional rollercoaster. But I find that times like this make you even stronger for the next cycle. I hope this lot of injections works for you and the travelling back and forth is all worth it when you get a positive result. I sometimes get to the point when I think, no more doctors, no more tests - why can't I just be normal.
BeiBei - the faint line sounds hopeful. *fingers crossed* for your BT tomorrow.
BW - That is so true. I think when we are typing away, we are sounding it all in our minds, but when we have to verbalise it - it doesn't always come out the way we want. Plus we are typing away on here to friends that understand us, so that helps.
I may not be around much between here and christmas as my family are arriving tonight. So wish me strength to deal with them LOL
I'm sure I'll be lurking to read what everyone is up to and I'll pop in to wish you a merry christmas later in the week. Have a good day everyone.
Hi Girls,
I'm not going to be around much either for the next two/three weeks. Decided I need to take a break from everything over xmas/new year. No temping, no charting, no BB. Just want a break and to start the new year afresh.
Makes it a lot easier when the majority of that time I'll be at my parents place up the coast and they don't have the net!
I might pop back in later in the week and let you know how my appt goes on Thursday with my FS (hoping to book on for an ivf cycle during my appt) but if not, I want to wish you all a very merry xmas and hope that 2007 is the year all our dreams come true!
PS woo hoo, my hair has been fixed in my avatar! Ahhh, that's better. Much more like me.
Hi girls. Thanks for all of your kind thoughts. I am now on my second day of the higher dose of injections. I have my scan booked in for 7:30am on Wed so at least it is nice and early and I don't have to wait all day for it. Now I am starting to worry that this higher dose will over stimulate and we will have to call the whole cycle of because of too many follies. Argh I am such a stress head :doh:
BeiBei- Good luck I hope that line starts to get darker :crossfingers: How many days has it been since your pregnyl injection?
Willow- Please come back to let us know how you go at your appointment. We will miss you around here but enjoy a break I hope you are able to clear your head for a new start in 2007. If we don't see you again I hope you have a wonderful Christmas and a happy new year.
Belinda- That would be nice if we could just trade our bodies in for a new model wouldn't it lol. Also good luck dealing with your family when they arrive lol
Hi to everyone else. How are you all today?
Ktgirl,
I'm so sorry your b/t didn't go so well. I totally understand how you feel -- I also bust into tears when I didn't ovulate on my first cycle of clomid. I agree - this whole process is incredibly emotionally tolling! But, you know, you might not get your BFP tomorrow, but I'm sure it's just around the corner, and you'll get it before you know it! In the meantime, try to forget about it as much as possible and enjoy the holidays. I'm trying my best to do that myself!